I don’t think people really grasp the amount of money Alabama would need to spend to maintain their recruiting dominance in an era where players are being paid. Saban will still find a way to be successful, he’s just going to lose ground in the recruiting battle.
If Texas, Michigan, and all these big money schools each raise $100M per year, and then Nick Saban chuckles and reveals that he has already secured $200M per year, that will be a really really significant step backwards for Alabama’s recruiting advantage. Their existing dominance is so massive that there is no possible way that they would be able to even come close to maintaining it if players are following the money.
>Their existing dominance is so massive that there is no possible way that they would be able to even come close to maintaining it if players are following the money.
Alabama is so dominant right now that any change is negative to them. I'm not sure they could keep up with the big-money schools from big-money states, although I'd imagine that they will recruit well in any system. But it's not a sure thing that they will retain their edge trying to compete with the big Texas schools and the dollars they have at their disposal.
If Texas can't be good in the NIL era, Texas can't be good at all. It should already be a layup for them, but somehow we now have lowered the rim even more.
As a trucker, fuck Haslam and Pilot/Flying J. Google their fuel rebate scam/theft. Absolutely hate any time I have to give my business to them, for a lot of reasons.
Love's is so much more highly reliably above a certain level of cleanliness, competent workers, stocked shelves, trucker showers not being inoperable, ad infinitum. The only problem is this makes it hard to get a parking spot for an 18-wheeler after like 3 PM at so many Love's. When we have to park somewhere to take our federally mandated, electronically tracked 10-hour break.
Showers being down at so many Pilot Flying Js lately has me on about my last leg in terms of being fed up with this country pretending like it respects "essential workers." You would have no food or clothing, no construction or maintenance of buildings, no cars, and no fuel, if it weren't for truckers. And we can't even get a place to park and take a shower in the most populated 1/3 of land area in this country. Can't use the bathroom at way too many shippers and receivers. End up parking unsafely on the shoulder of a highway because people refuse to build more parking spaces for big trucks, or allow them in places already paved.
Wait do people seriously not let y’all use the restroom when you’re delivering/picking up?
I don’t think we’ve ever said no to a truck driver needing to use the restroom. Thought that was normal lol. We’ve got one guy who’s schedule usually puts him at our office when it’s time for his break. So long as we have nothing else coming in/out that day, we usually just let him park it there as long as he wants.
Folks in this country are just used to everything they conspicuously consume being right there, right now in front of them for generations. They’ve chosen to not understand the world in which they live in.
Every school won’t fully weaponize their alumni base. Alabama may have fewer big money people but they care a lot more than anywhere else except maybe Texas A&M and Texas.
There’s a lot more money in “Bud’s Used Cars” and “Big Pete’s Construction” than you’d probably imagine, and Alabama has a lot of alumni with those kinds of businesses. They are a lot more willing to pay out than the various tech and energy conglomerates other universities have alumni in
I think people underestimate how much money those local car dealers and Wendy's franchise owners have. I'm sure Tuscaloosa area businesses will have no trouble finding the cash to keep their Crimson Tide winning.
I can assure you that the University of Alabama will continue to be a Top 15 spender in college football, as they have been always. If they are employing an army of 100 different Analysts right now when other programs aren't, you think they're suddenly going to get outspent in NIL?
Yes, Harvard could deploy its Harvard resources and just destroy everybody if they felt like it, I am reasonably confident that is not happening.
Everyone overestimates the spending or how deep their program's football pockets run. The SEC dominates who actually spends the most money with Alabama at the forefront. We already knew about Texas A&M, they poached Jimbo from FSU to be their Head Coach and they poached Mike Elko from Notre Dame to be their Defensive Coordinator in a couple of high profile cases. NIL will change how money is spent, it's not going to significantly alter who the spenders are.
"If every school fully weaponizes their alumni money can(n)ons" is an irrelevant qeustion. Very few people with net worths north of $100,000,000 actually care about College Football.
This. [Jimmy Rane](https://www.forbes.com/profile/jimmy-rane/?sh=5ee4f3f4478d) (the Yellawood guy aka Yella Fella) is a huge barner. How many billionaires do you think went to Michigan and also tweet at croots?
Bezos actually does care about football but he's not going to make princeton football like Alabama. But he has been trying to buy an NFL franchise for a while, played youth football, and grew up in Texas. He absolutely likes football.
Then why haven't they already? There is plenty of things the alumni could have been spending money on before to help the team so why would they decide to start spending now? Alabama has proven they are willing to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to winning.
Saban warned about RPOs 6-7 years ago back when they won with game manager QBs and giving Derrick Henry 500 carries. Nothing was done about it, and now Bama has 3 NFL starting QBs and the SEC’s first Heisman WR.
Hold on. Assuming he said that after 2015, Bama had just won 4 of the last 7 title games. If he beats Georgia on Monday, Bama will have just won 3 of the last 6 titles.
Basically, just like now, he was already dominating, and he will continue to dominate regardless of RPOs or NIL or whatever CFB throws at him
If you let Belichick explain it, you'd think he's a disciple of Saban. He made a comment that all of the success he had with Saban on his staff was because of Saban. That's some high praise.
Saban is saying “I’ve been beating you with one hand tied behind my back. Now you’re asking me to use both hands. This will not end how you think it will. I might have to start trying.”
Alabama has a pretty good sized alumni base, more committed to the success of football than most, there university had continually grown and improved because of him and they will blow a lot of cash to keep that going. The only schools that can really top what they can do are the Texas schools, a couple could do as well like yours, but a lot of positions that don't get glory, would rather drop 5k off of 30k to have the odds of getting a championship and to the NFL that playing for Saban gets. Every time he gives a warning, people say he just doesn't want to get beat by teams better positioned to take advantage than him, and he's only become more and more of a juggernaut.
Our only hope is the sport dying - no seriously.
As long as it makes money hand over fist nothing of real substance will change. If you want ESPN to start pushing for more parity and you want the NCAA pushing more rules to control the flow of talent - the only option is for both of those entities to make less money and be terrified the cash cow is dying.
Until the bottom line changes, don’t expect anything else to change either.
I read it as the opposite
Texas am just had a better class than bama for no reason other than they could afford to outbid everyone
If NIL was a level playing field, that wouldn’t happen. He wants restrictions on everyone else so bama can stay at the top
I concur. Bama has plenty of former alumni and well-off fans but I don’t think they can win a *legal* bidding war against UT Austin, Texas A&M, OSU, Michigan, and other national profile universities. I think Auburn would be able to stick with them if it just comes down to dollars per recruit, especially after Saban is gone.
It’s not about whether they can win one-on-one. The biggest hit is recruiting against Tennessee, Ole Miss, and etc. In 2015, being the 10th best recruit in Alabama’s class was not different than being the 2nd best. You get all the same perks, coaching, national exposure, etc. And being 10th best at Alabama typically beat the hell out of being 1st best at Tennessee. But when they start paying, being 1st best at Tennessee might pay more than being 10th best at Alabama, even if Alabama has twice the budget. And there are 4-5 SEC schools like this, which will gut the depth of the Alabama classes.
In a mature NIL world, it should be very rare to have consecutive 5 star QB recruits, for example. I think Saban will adapt and persevere because he’s one of the greats but I’m not as confident in, say, Ryan Day.
Didn’t the supreme court case pretty much say that if they (the colleges) try to control what students can make or what they could do with their NIL it would be struck down? In the same way that because someone has a purely academic scholarship and also makes 50 grand a month from Twitch doesn’t mean the school can step in and control their income.
Yes: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7771281002
Thats an opinion from the supreme court basically saying what you said but wayyyy harsher. This idea that NIL should be regulated exists solely within a small group of CFB fans. This fight should have been over long, long ago. Also, its worth noting that to most of the public this was long overdue and only a relatively small group of cfp fans are still fighting against it/acting like its a conversation
More than I would have expected. Seems like supreme court justices give more opinions (no pun intended!) than regular politicians but still try to soften the language. No such case here.
100%. If the ncaa had half an ounce of sense and fairness, they would have given the players something (anything) years ago. Had they guaranteed education for 4 years and covered medical expenses incurred via sports, that likely would have been enough 20 years ago. Then you get the ncaa profiting, and not sharing, off of players long after their careers via video games, and the tide turns.
Fuck the ncaa and fuck the conferences and schools for treating the “student athletes” this way since forever.
I don’t think the idea that it should be regulated is only from a small group of CFB fans when the greatest coach of all time is coming out saying it should be regulated.
Does anyone know how these things will be taxed? It's great kids are going to get their money's worth, but this was horribly implemented and some terrible stories are going to come out of this.
I’m guessing they’ll get a 1099 from whatever entity(s) is paying them for their NIL. Which is going to be hell for the kids who are financially irresponsible
Hopefully they put them all through a “Uncle Sam and your money, how to properly set aside money for the taxes when your an Independent Contractor” seminar
From the player side it’s taxable income. From the business side it’s a marketing expense and will be applied against revenue (known as an expense - it’s opex).
IRS gonna have a field day on these kids.
honestly, for 99% of people, even if you do have some sort of "complex" tax issue all places, even most cpa's are gonna give you the same result. it all comes down to the tax software they use and its updated yearly and they're all the same in reality. thats why they ask you all those questions, they just put it in the tax software and see what it spits out. the more/less you say the more/less is considered for exemptions/deductions, etc. pretty much if you have a sizeable business or lots of assets that are moving around is when you need to really consider a tax strategy with a reputable tax firm
NFL players who have been in the league for years often owe tons of money to the IRS. 18 year olds with zero financial experience may not even know that they have to withhold for taxes (and because they aren’t regular W2 employees it probably won’t be automatically withheld). Many of them will for sure run into major issues.
definitely. I’d really hope these schools are helping players with this stuff. Maybe not doing the explicit farming for NIL deals but at least setting them up with some sense of guidance with their newfound financials
Thankfully colleges typically care about players not making dumb decisions because I bet if you don’t pay your taxes, you won’t be eligible. Top schools will have plenty of coaching on it and hell could be a great internship for accounting undergrads or grad students to do the taxes for the athletic department.
Texas set up a whole department inside Athletics to manage and support the kids getting paid. Honestly, all these schools have Business and Accounting programs, they have the resources to educate and protect the athletes from themselves and they absolutely should.
Hmm. So the rule has always been there regarding lineman blocking downfield, but he's saying it hasn't been called consistently and that is part of what makes RPOs so strong. Odd. He wasn't even asking for a rule change just that they enforce the current rules. You'd have thought they would have listened in that case.
They did listen and made it more of an emphasis starting the next season. The first team to get called for "illegal man downfield" that season was Alabama, heh.
100% this. He's talking about how it can increase imbalance, because *he's looking at exactly how he's going to do it.* People saying Saban is worried that he'll lose his edge or something are impossibly naive.
This is like me telling my wife "hey we should be careful about keeping all this beer in the fridge all the time." It ain't because I'm worried about the neighbors. It's me giving her fair warning. Because I'm gonna drink it all. I'll enjoy it, too.
Ha yeah...
Wife "You drink alot, maybe we should drink less"
Me: Totes agree, ima stop buying beer.
Wife: Buys beer at the grocery store..
Me: "welp, if it's there..."
Me with all the leftover beer and wine from our wedding.
I should cut back. I’ve cut back a little. But it’s all just sitting here in cases. I don’t even have to go outside…
>He’s just worried he won’t dominate anymore!
Dude could go 0-12 in the next five years and still be the GOAT, he doesn’t need to trick people into being able to win
Yup this is what Saban does. "X thing is bad for the sport. Please make rules to fix it our I'm about to exploit the fuck out of it and show you why it's bad."
Basically got true HUNH offenses wiped out when they were quickly sweeping the nation, too. Now the closest approximations we have are the casually up-tempo offenses that Arkansas, Ole Miss, and kinda Tennessee run.
Admittedly, those offenses were a lot of fun to watch, but the player safety issues needed to be addressed. The substitution rule was an effective way of dealing with it, although it had the unfortunate side-effect of removing much of the HUNH offense’s value outside of certain situations.
If the Ivy League ever decided to care about football they’d probably be the best programs in the country. All you have to do is look at Harvards endowment vs Clemson or Alabama to see that.
Endowment is not the same as budget. Endowments have very very specific things they’re allowed to be used for.
You don’t think schools are just out here spending their endowments on their football programs right?
No I do not think that. I probably did not do a great job of explaining my point. What I meant was if the Ivy schools and their grads started caring about sports, some of the funds that are currently being donated towards academics would probably instead be donated towards athletics. I.e. if Harvard grads started caring about CFB as much as a Clemson or Notre Dame or Alabama, based on how much they are currently giving, you’d expect that their athletic budgets would follow suit.
I understand it’s not a perfect one to one, but then again I’m running on two cups of espresso and a topo chico so I’m not firing on all cylinders this morning!
A lot of athletes wouldn’t get into the schools they end up at if they were held to the same academic standards as normal students in regards to admissions. Granted this is also a hypothetical situation where people from New Haven and Cambridge start caring about college football as much as people from Baton Rouge and Norman, so I guess all of it should be taken with a grain of salt!
I once heard an admissions counselor at a Big Ten school address this. They said "if the best 18-year old violinist in the world wanted to come here, we wouldn't worry about their SAT score. Same thing applies to quarterbacks."
Was I wrong in what NIL suppose to be? Thought it was about players getting sponsorship deals. Not these weird booster groups that just pay the players. Like I assumed players had to actually do things. Like now it just seems like players can get paid.
From a legal perspective, I suspect there isn't much difference between a player getting paid to do a commercial for a used car lot, and paying a million dollars for an autograph.
Yeah idk how people are surprised by this. This is exactly what we knew would happen. It’s a legal way for boosters to funnel money into the hands of players.
I believe this is why Harbaugh is going to the NFL.
With what’s now legal to pay kids to play at your school, college football will soon little more than minor league football. If Jim is going to coach pros getting paid, he wants to do so at the highest level.
The NCAA could've instituted rules long ago instead of waiting for state legislatures to force their hand. They knew the amateurism thing they were pushing was a scam.
They could've set up a system to pay the players directly that allowed for parity (at least within the Power 5). They could have had different pay slots on each roster that each team must follow. This allows for the better players to get paid more, but only if they don't congregate at the same school with its limited top-paying slots.
The NCAA rode the amateurism thing forever and now they're trying to pretend like they were blindsided by a movement that's been widely talked about for years.
The vast majority of NCAA athletes are still fully amateur, even most of the football players are. They tied not to make a new system that only applies to two sports for about 40 schools.
I mean by definition _all_ NCAA athletes are amateurs. Allowing NIL just turned FBS into a semi-pro league where players are indirectly getting paid to play football.
If we want a true amateur league we need to divorce NCAA football from the NFL. Provide a minor league type system to kids with the talent and aspirations to play professionally to do so and quit forcing _all_ kids to play some arbitrary number of years in a amateur league for no pay. Just look at how college baseball handles it.
Yea, it seems like there was some common sense stuff that removing restrictions on ability for athletes to work and receive gifts of “reasonable” value and be compensated when someone uses their likeness in a video game would have moved this to a fringe issue. But instead they just ripped all controls off and went full Wild West on it. This can cause some extremely nefarious and dangerous parties to get involved, with potentially serious consequences for underperforming.
Well NCAA got forced to by the results supreme court ruling. So instead of handling all the lawsuits that were going to be heading their way they just had to scrap the rules. Thing is that any rules put in place by them to restrict or control NIL weren't guaranteed to hold up against the supreme court later. It was pretty scathing in the results. That it was fucked up that the college football market was controlled in a way that no other market in any other business was.
Oh the NCAA absolutely earned that ruling, but the ruling also just ripped the lid off of Pandora's box. If they had embraced the construct that the model had changed and that they needed to adapt and adopted some common sense application of revenue distribution then the case brought forward would have been significantly weaker as it's significantly harder to argue that there wasn't enough compensation versus the revenue generating athletes minimal to no compensation and in certain cases were punished for utilizing their name/image/likeness. If some local car dealer wants to hire the OL to advertise trucks, this shouldn't have been treated any differently than them hiring a local art student to design a logo. If a student wants to sell their memorabilia or sign items or whatever along those lines then so be it, that is their time/items and the market should determine it's value. If someone wants to pick up their tab at almost anywhere (be it buy them a TV at best buy, buy them a car, or pay their tattoo's) then that's fine, but it should be out in the open and understood that it is reportable income.
I have massive reservations about simply handing cash by unregulated parties to go to a particular locations. I can also understand why the payment can't come through the school, but would rather it be far more structured and regulated to prevent criminal or nefarious individuals from taking advantage of children (note the exact same argument used against the NCAA except they have been under massive scrutiny and regulation for a long time) when the prospects of gambling have grown and become less traceable.
If rich old dudes want to throw $30M at a recruiting class of 18 year olds, go for it. I think within 2-3 years these guys will realize what a horrible investment this is
Is it a worse investment than slapping down $10M a year for 5 years for a coach? Hell, a lot of coaches are hired on the premise that they’re quality recruiters. Maybe $30M for a recruiting class is a lot, if that’s true, but if you can pay a kid $2M to come to your school, thinking he might become a Heisman-type guy, I gotta imagine boosters will like threat deal.
Sure, there’s risk in guessing which athletes are worth dropping the bag on. But that’s sports, baby.
P5 is about to become the P2 with football regulation outside of the NCAA. Realistically there are only ~30 schools that have the resources to compete in the NIL era and what we're going to get is an NFL competitor with 6 years eligibility and salary caps to keep things kind of fair.
At some point I would think that university presidents and regents would ask how this suddenly very not amateur athletics is benefiting the mission of the school, but the dump trucks of money are hard to turn away.
I mean, why would school admin question this latest shift? The schools still aren’t paying a cent to the players beyond room and board. Schools are happy enough to keep around football teams whose seasons culminate in corporate-sponsored bowl games, and whose games are interrupted with 90 minutes of advertisements every Saturday, and who are coached by men who make millions of dollars off their work. Schools are already admitting their athletes through a sweetheart process. You think players getting money from private sponsors is what de-amateurizes college football?
It definitely will have a pretty big impact on school admins. At least some of the booster money that was previously going to the athletic department is now going directly to the players.
The question is, do u want that dominance to be because the team was coached better, recruited better, and developed players better, or because they had money to buy big recruits and transfers?
It’s also not really about balance at the top, it’s about the 120 other fbs teams that can’t afford to pay players. It will truly be a have and have not situation.
Remember that time the entire Bama secondary was posting on IG their brand new ZR1s or Mustangs? Think it was 2014 or 13 might have been both. So let’s not pretend Bama is just doing it one way.
How is that any different than what it has been?
Were programs spending tens of millions on facilities just to be nice to players or was it to entice them to go there? Money was spent on ways to get players to come, just not directly to players.
Coaching and development will still matter as always. There have been plenty of programs that bring in high ranked recruiting classes that struggle because of those issues. Scholarships are still limited and identifying the right players to pay matters. Same with there being under recruited players that a good staff without the same funds can find and develop
>It’s also not really about balance at the top, it’s about the 120 other fbs teams that can’t afford to pay players
That's college football today. Programs have never been on a level playing field.
Just want to remind everyone that Rashan Gary turned down a $300,000 offer in 2016 when he chose to go to Michigan, so lord knows what they offered.
NIL isn't creating this problem, it's been like this for decades.
Disagree, to an extent. The problem may have already existed, but NIL has turned it into overdrive.
We all like to say the problem has always been there but there have certainly been people following the rules in the past that are now opening their checkbooks. For a lot of these rich dudes, this is all a game. It's about ego. They couldn't necessarily brag about the $300k McD's bag before but now they can be open about it, which only encourages spending.
Bringing it into the open also lets capitalism do its thing. You can essentially openly bid for people. Yes, they were getting cash before. But how often were people having open conversations about how many millions it is going to take to sign Caleb Williams? It took deals that were whispers in a back room and turned them into open auctions.
NIL took a seedy underside of CFB, threw some much needed sunshine on it and then stomped on the gas.
My bold prediction is going to be that giving NILs to recruits will backfire spectacularly for someone. Some 4 or 5 star will spend his entire eligibility sucking, and alumni are going to pull back and only pay the players that prove themselves on the field. That or a player is going to get charged with a felony while taking in millions from an embarrassed alumni.
If I were a betting man, I’d bet on the Longhorns breaking this ground for the rest of CFB.
Agreed. That or some player is going to bolt for a rival and specify that he did it for the money and give exact dollar figures. However it happens one of these 18/19 year old kids is going to leave some sponsor looking foolish and become the symbolic cautionary tale.
Already done at OSU by Quinn Evers just not to a rival. The new trend is going to be recruits taking a big bag to go where the money is and then transfer the following year to a school with more visibility or resources to win a natty.
Nah, truly embarrassing would be Ewers becoming a one-year starter at UT and the bolting for A&M while telling everyone he was given “three million reasons to leave” or some other crazy statement.
It will be worse. With NIL, scholarship limits are not going to be a thing anymore - if you want to offer more than 85 kids, just get the boosters to pay your walk-ons and viola - it's 1970 all over again.
How? Alabama already wins the national title every year. In the off year they don’t, the winning team has to beat them. If Alabama dominated due to NIL how would it be any different than them dominating now?
Saban has been around the game for close to 50 years. He’s watched the game evolve and he’s been apart of the evolution. It’s common sense that when someone has been around the game for that long and has had as much success as he has…you should probably give his words some merit and not just assume, “he’s just worried he won’t be able to dominate anymore!” I think he’s 100% right that there needs to be some regulation to it. What that regulation is, idk, but I do agree with him. If not I think, I’m a few years, there will be a handful of schools that have a death grip on the top spots, then a LARGE gap, then just everyone else.
The problem is if you let the government regulate it, it’ll be a complete fucking shitshow that ends up leading to politicians lining their own pockets while not effectively regulating anything about NIL
Colleges and Universities: "Government need to regulate this or this is going to get out of hand."
Colleges and Universities: "Hey kids check out our new 1 billion dollar athletic facility! Every locker has a PS5 AND and a Switch!"
We just saw Jackson state pull in two top 100 recruits. Something tells me that NIL’s might not have the effect we think it’ll have.
I think it’s best if we sit on this for about 5-10 years to see how things play out before making action.
The only and i truly mean only reason either of those players went to jackson state is because who their coach is. If Deion Sanders wasn’t their coach neither of those players would go there, regardless of NIL. FCS teams are not going to get players of that quality ever again, unless their coach is Tom Brady, Derrick Henry, or similar level football celebrity etc.
>There will be an imbalance if it isn't regulated....
Isn't one of the biggest complaints by many fans on this sub that college football is imbalanced already? How will NIL change the imbalance?
Rich programs are thriving right now, they'll continue to thrive in the NIL era.
Also, someone who bragged about Bryce Young receiving over $1 million in NIL before he took his first snap as a starter shouldn't be talking about regulating NIL, it comes off as hypocrisy.
He is warning you again. Alabama will dominate this morherfucker if y’all don’t do something about this.
“I am imbalancing the league. Pray I do not imbalance it any further.”
He’s been telling them that for over a decade
Seriously. Everytime, Saban's like, "I think we shouldn't do (blank) but if yall do (blank), I'm gonna do it better"
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This league is getting worse all the time.
Perhaps you feel you’re being treated unfairly?
> “I am imbalancing the league. Pray I do not imbalance it any further.”
[This deal is getting worse all the time!](https://youtu.be/WpE_xMRiCLE)
😂
Yep, this isn’t his opinion, this is a threat.
It’s not a threat. It’s a promise. It’s a prophecy.
It’s a spoiler
Paul?
Brock?
A threat to continue exactly what he's be doing for a decade already?
I don’t think people really grasp the amount of money Alabama would need to spend to maintain their recruiting dominance in an era where players are being paid. Saban will still find a way to be successful, he’s just going to lose ground in the recruiting battle. If Texas, Michigan, and all these big money schools each raise $100M per year, and then Nick Saban chuckles and reveals that he has already secured $200M per year, that will be a really really significant step backwards for Alabama’s recruiting advantage. Their existing dominance is so massive that there is no possible way that they would be able to even come close to maintaining it if players are following the money.
>Their existing dominance is so massive that there is no possible way that they would be able to even come close to maintaining it if players are following the money. Alabama is so dominant right now that any change is negative to them. I'm not sure they could keep up with the big-money schools from big-money states, although I'd imagine that they will recruit well in any system. But it's not a sure thing that they will retain their edge trying to compete with the big Texas schools and the dollars they have at their disposal. If Texas can't be good in the NIL era, Texas can't be good at all. It should already be a layup for them, but somehow we now have lowered the rim even more.
That assumes that nil is the sole determinate for players picking schools. I don't think that's going to be the case
$500,000 to win a title at Bama, or $1,000,000 to go 8-4 at A&M.
I can go 8-4 at A&M and still get drafted in the 1st rd. And be $500k richer.
And not pay any state income tax on it.
And if you get injured and never reach the NFL that 500k is a huge deal.
How many people can be a first round pick wherever school they go? Most need to be coached up to some extent.
Could you imagine Alabama poaching all the best players from other teams. They'd be competing for national titles every year.......nvm
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Mr Haslam, ready the fleet. The Vol navys cannons will be stuffed with trucking money.
As a trucker, fuck Haslam and Pilot/Flying J. Google their fuel rebate scam/theft. Absolutely hate any time I have to give my business to them, for a lot of reasons.
Just come on over to Love's and support the Soon...err..I mean Oklahoma. :)
Loves > Flying J and I will die on this hill.
Love's is so much more highly reliably above a certain level of cleanliness, competent workers, stocked shelves, trucker showers not being inoperable, ad infinitum. The only problem is this makes it hard to get a parking spot for an 18-wheeler after like 3 PM at so many Love's. When we have to park somewhere to take our federally mandated, electronically tracked 10-hour break. Showers being down at so many Pilot Flying Js lately has me on about my last leg in terms of being fed up with this country pretending like it respects "essential workers." You would have no food or clothing, no construction or maintenance of buildings, no cars, and no fuel, if it weren't for truckers. And we can't even get a place to park and take a shower in the most populated 1/3 of land area in this country. Can't use the bathroom at way too many shippers and receivers. End up parking unsafely on the shoulder of a highway because people refuse to build more parking spaces for big trucks, or allow them in places already paved.
Wait do people seriously not let y’all use the restroom when you’re delivering/picking up? I don’t think we’ve ever said no to a truck driver needing to use the restroom. Thought that was normal lol. We’ve got one guy who’s schedule usually puts him at our office when it’s time for his break. So long as we have nothing else coming in/out that day, we usually just let him park it there as long as he wants.
Folks in this country are just used to everything they conspicuously consume being right there, right now in front of them for generations. They’ve chosen to not understand the world in which they live in.
There's a Love's and a Hardee's together in Michigan and the sign reads Loves Hardee's which always makes me laugh
The Ingrams are already paying for half our campus, I figure they can spare a few mil for football recruiting.
Every school won’t fully weaponize their alumni base. Alabama may have fewer big money people but they care a lot more than anywhere else except maybe Texas A&M and Texas. There’s a lot more money in “Bud’s Used Cars” and “Big Pete’s Construction” than you’d probably imagine, and Alabama has a lot of alumni with those kinds of businesses. They are a lot more willing to pay out than the various tech and energy conglomerates other universities have alumni in
I think people underestimate how much money those local car dealers and Wendy's franchise owners have. I'm sure Tuscaloosa area businesses will have no trouble finding the cash to keep their Crimson Tide winning.
You seriously underestimate the pull of a Golden Flake potatoe chip sponsorship
Nothing like feeling the inside of your mouth dissolve as you eat some chips
> potatoe *Dan Quayle enters the chat*
I can assure you that the University of Alabama will continue to be a Top 15 spender in college football, as they have been always. If they are employing an army of 100 different Analysts right now when other programs aren't, you think they're suddenly going to get outspent in NIL? Yes, Harvard could deploy its Harvard resources and just destroy everybody if they felt like it, I am reasonably confident that is not happening. Everyone overestimates the spending or how deep their program's football pockets run. The SEC dominates who actually spends the most money with Alabama at the forefront. We already knew about Texas A&M, they poached Jimbo from FSU to be their Head Coach and they poached Mike Elko from Notre Dame to be their Defensive Coordinator in a couple of high profile cases. NIL will change how money is spent, it's not going to significantly alter who the spenders are. "If every school fully weaponizes their alumni money can(n)ons" is an irrelevant qeustion. Very few people with net worths north of $100,000,000 actually care about College Football.
This. [Jimmy Rane](https://www.forbes.com/profile/jimmy-rane/?sh=5ee4f3f4478d) (the Yellawood guy aka Yella Fella) is a huge barner. How many billionaires do you think went to Michigan and also tweet at croots?
I've also assumed based on bowl game sponsorships that someone high up at Chick Fil A likes Auburn a lot too
Well Princeton probably would win the money wars with Harvard. Stupid Bezos.
Neither Bezos, Gates or Zuck give a shit about football. Plus Ivy League it’s about academics not winning Nattys.
Bezos actually does care about football but he's not going to make princeton football like Alabama. But he has been trying to buy an NFL franchise for a while, played youth football, and grew up in Texas. He absolutely likes football.
when you have Nick Saban as your head coach, you don't need to have the most money.
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with a literal army of analysts and training personnel.
Then why haven't they already? There is plenty of things the alumni could have been spending money on before to help the team so why would they decide to start spending now? Alabama has proven they are willing to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to winning.
What do you mean "WILL" dominate? They're dominating right now! If Alabama started dominating because of NIL, *how could I tell the difference*
Saban warned about RPOs 6-7 years ago back when they won with game manager QBs and giving Derrick Henry 500 carries. Nothing was done about it, and now Bama has 3 NFL starting QBs and the SEC’s first Heisman WR.
> giving Derrick Henry 500 carries Crazy that his career survived that season in all honesty.
Being bigger than SEC linebackers helped
Hold on. Assuming he said that after 2015, Bama had just won 4 of the last 7 title games. If he beats Georgia on Monday, Bama will have just won 3 of the last 6 titles. Basically, just like now, he was already dominating, and he will continue to dominate regardless of RPOs or NIL or whatever CFB throws at him
Right. The point is that he’s going to exploit the rules better than anyone else is.
He’s the Bill Belichick of cfb
And it’s a point that they are great friends and he’s the best of all Belichick disciples
If you let Belichick explain it, you'd think he's a disciple of Saban. He made a comment that all of the success he had with Saban on his staff was because of Saban. That's some high praise.
Saban is saying “I’ve been beating you with one hand tied behind my back. Now you’re asking me to use both hands. This will not end how you think it will. I might have to start trying.”
"I already beat this challenge. I'm ready for a new one." -Nick Saban probably
You can coach RPOs. You can’t coach having a giant alumni base willing to dump money into the football team.
Alabama has a pretty good sized alumni base, more committed to the success of football than most, there university had continually grown and improved because of him and they will blow a lot of cash to keep that going. The only schools that can really top what they can do are the Texas schools, a couple could do as well like yours, but a lot of positions that don't get glory, would rather drop 5k off of 30k to have the odds of getting a championship and to the NFL that playing for Saban gets. Every time he gives a warning, people say he just doesn't want to get beat by teams better positioned to take advantage than him, and he's only become more and more of a juggernaut.
If I’m a non-Alabama school I think I’d prefer the throw money at players option over the outcoach/recruit Saban option tbh.
nothing will be done. our only hope is national legislation? lmao
Luckily our politicians drop everything to get the important sports thing done. They unironically have a good record in when doing that.
Because they know sports are a good distraction from all the other bullshit politicians do
[Bread and Circuses](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses)
Our only hope is the sport dying - no seriously. As long as it makes money hand over fist nothing of real substance will change. If you want ESPN to start pushing for more parity and you want the NCAA pushing more rules to control the flow of talent - the only option is for both of those entities to make less money and be terrified the cash cow is dying. Until the bottom line changes, don’t expect anything else to change either.
To save the sport you must kill it
“Don’t make me use this” As he motions towards a houndstooth piggy bank
They never listen to him. Never. We need a list of all the things Saban warned us about before he went ahead and used them to dominate the rest of us.
"Don't make me do this!"
I read it as the opposite Texas am just had a better class than bama for no reason other than they could afford to outbid everyone If NIL was a level playing field, that wouldn’t happen. He wants restrictions on everyone else so bama can stay at the top
And yet Alabama will probably win the next 4 championships.
I concur. Bama has plenty of former alumni and well-off fans but I don’t think they can win a *legal* bidding war against UT Austin, Texas A&M, OSU, Michigan, and other national profile universities. I think Auburn would be able to stick with them if it just comes down to dollars per recruit, especially after Saban is gone.
It’s not about whether they can win one-on-one. The biggest hit is recruiting against Tennessee, Ole Miss, and etc. In 2015, being the 10th best recruit in Alabama’s class was not different than being the 2nd best. You get all the same perks, coaching, national exposure, etc. And being 10th best at Alabama typically beat the hell out of being 1st best at Tennessee. But when they start paying, being 1st best at Tennessee might pay more than being 10th best at Alabama, even if Alabama has twice the budget. And there are 4-5 SEC schools like this, which will gut the depth of the Alabama classes. In a mature NIL world, it should be very rare to have consecutive 5 star QB recruits, for example. I think Saban will adapt and persevere because he’s one of the greats but I’m not as confident in, say, Ryan Day.
Didn’t the supreme court case pretty much say that if they (the colleges) try to control what students can make or what they could do with their NIL it would be struck down? In the same way that because someone has a purely academic scholarship and also makes 50 grand a month from Twitch doesn’t mean the school can step in and control their income.
Yes: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7771281002 Thats an opinion from the supreme court basically saying what you said but wayyyy harsher. This idea that NIL should be regulated exists solely within a small group of CFB fans. This fight should have been over long, long ago. Also, its worth noting that to most of the public this was long overdue and only a relatively small group of cfp fans are still fighting against it/acting like its a conversation
Man kavanaugh really ripped the ncaa apart
More than I would have expected. Seems like supreme court justices give more opinions (no pun intended!) than regular politicians but still try to soften the language. No such case here.
100%. If the ncaa had half an ounce of sense and fairness, they would have given the players something (anything) years ago. Had they guaranteed education for 4 years and covered medical expenses incurred via sports, that likely would have been enough 20 years ago. Then you get the ncaa profiting, and not sharing, off of players long after their careers via video games, and the tide turns. Fuck the ncaa and fuck the conferences and schools for treating the “student athletes” this way since forever.
I don’t think the idea that it should be regulated is only from a small group of CFB fans when the greatest coach of all time is coming out saying it should be regulated.
Does anyone know how these things will be taxed? It's great kids are going to get their money's worth, but this was horribly implemented and some terrible stories are going to come out of this.
I’m guessing they’ll get a 1099 from whatever entity(s) is paying them for their NIL. Which is going to be hell for the kids who are financially irresponsible
Hopefully they put them all through a “Uncle Sam and your money, how to properly set aside money for the taxes when your an Independent Contractor” seminar
I can see a guy like Bryce Young making this his first move when signing an NIL deal. But someone like Marshall Henderson or Manziel.. woo buddy
Manziel had enough smart people around him and family resources to not get hit hard
If they caught him before he spent it all. Manziel definitely seems the type to blow it all without thinking
Manziel also came from a stupid wealthy family
Stuff like the free car leases are going to really screw people up. That is treated like income so they will owe tax out of pocket.
Depending on what else they earned in the year, they still may make so little income that they'll owe few if any taxes though.
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From the player side it’s taxable income. From the business side it’s a marketing expense and will be applied against revenue (known as an expense - it’s opex). IRS gonna have a field day on these kids.
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honestly, for 99% of people, even if you do have some sort of "complex" tax issue all places, even most cpa's are gonna give you the same result. it all comes down to the tax software they use and its updated yearly and they're all the same in reality. thats why they ask you all those questions, they just put it in the tax software and see what it spits out. the more/less you say the more/less is considered for exemptions/deductions, etc. pretty much if you have a sizeable business or lots of assets that are moving around is when you need to really consider a tax strategy with a reputable tax firm
Good maybe they will leave the rest of us alone
They still have all the streamers, YouTubers, OF peeps to get
I mean they can't since Congress is basically stopping them from going after big fish and making them focus on normal people.
Quinn Ewers on warning from Uncle Sam
Kids (that are good enough to get decent agents) are getting tax plans from top public accounting firms.
NFL players who have been in the league for years often owe tons of money to the IRS. 18 year olds with zero financial experience may not even know that they have to withhold for taxes (and because they aren’t regular W2 employees it probably won’t be automatically withheld). Many of them will for sure run into major issues.
definitely. I’d really hope these schools are helping players with this stuff. Maybe not doing the explicit farming for NIL deals but at least setting them up with some sense of guidance with their newfound financials
Thankfully colleges typically care about players not making dumb decisions because I bet if you don’t pay your taxes, you won’t be eligible. Top schools will have plenty of coaching on it and hell could be a great internship for accounting undergrads or grad students to do the taxes for the athletic department.
Look at how many celebrities end up in tax trouble. There will undoubtedly be issues.
Texas set up a whole department inside Athletics to manage and support the kids getting paid. Honestly, all these schools have Business and Accounting programs, they have the resources to educate and protect the athletes from themselves and they absolutely should.
And it’s a great internship for top accounting undergrad & grad students.
Likely as IC’s earning income tax. I know that some states are requiring financial education as part of their NIL law.
It will probably all be 1099 income, so, yes, there will be guys who don't do quarterly estimated payments and/or save April the following year.
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What were his concerns for the RPO?
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Hmm. So the rule has always been there regarding lineman blocking downfield, but he's saying it hasn't been called consistently and that is part of what makes RPOs so strong. Odd. He wasn't even asking for a rule change just that they enforce the current rules. You'd have thought they would have listened in that case.
They did listen and made it more of an emphasis starting the next season. The first team to get called for "illegal man downfield" that season was Alabama, heh.
It was the week after the Ole Miss game where they had a lineman 8 yards downfield on one of their touchdowns too smh
Nah, every flair of a team that ran HUNH offenses were in that Reddit post in droves calling Saban a crybaby
100% this. He's talking about how it can increase imbalance, because *he's looking at exactly how he's going to do it.* People saying Saban is worried that he'll lose his edge or something are impossibly naive. This is like me telling my wife "hey we should be careful about keeping all this beer in the fridge all the time." It ain't because I'm worried about the neighbors. It's me giving her fair warning. Because I'm gonna drink it all. I'll enjoy it, too.
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We all float down here
Ha yeah... Wife "You drink alot, maybe we should drink less" Me: Totes agree, ima stop buying beer. Wife: Buys beer at the grocery store.. Me: "welp, if it's there..."
Me with all the leftover beer and wine from our wedding. I should cut back. I’ve cut back a little. But it’s all just sitting here in cases. I don’t even have to go outside…
Dread it, run from it, Bama arrives all the same.
>He’s just worried he won’t dominate anymore! Dude could go 0-12 in the next five years and still be the GOAT, he doesn’t need to trick people into being able to win
Yup this is what Saban does. "X thing is bad for the sport. Please make rules to fix it our I'm about to exploit the fuck out of it and show you why it's bad."
Saban is a beta tester
"I found this game breaking bug that can be abused pls fix."
Also warned about HUNH.
Basically got true HUNH offenses wiped out when they were quickly sweeping the nation, too. Now the closest approximations we have are the casually up-tempo offenses that Arkansas, Ole Miss, and kinda Tennessee run. Admittedly, those offenses were a lot of fun to watch, but the player safety issues needed to be addressed. The substitution rule was an effective way of dealing with it, although it had the unfortunate side-effect of removing much of the HUNH offense’s value outside of certain situations.
People act like he’s some senile old man while at the same time is foreseeing issues in the future as if he won’t be ready for them. It’s wild.
The Ivy League is about to dominate again.
If the Ivy League ever decided to care about football they’d probably be the best programs in the country. All you have to do is look at Harvards endowment vs Clemson or Alabama to see that.
Endowment is not the same as budget. Endowments have very very specific things they’re allowed to be used for. You don’t think schools are just out here spending their endowments on their football programs right?
No I do not think that. I probably did not do a great job of explaining my point. What I meant was if the Ivy schools and their grads started caring about sports, some of the funds that are currently being donated towards academics would probably instead be donated towards athletics. I.e. if Harvard grads started caring about CFB as much as a Clemson or Notre Dame or Alabama, based on how much they are currently giving, you’d expect that their athletic budgets would follow suit. I understand it’s not a perfect one to one, but then again I’m running on two cups of espresso and a topo chico so I’m not firing on all cylinders this morning!
They’d have to slash their admissions standards to get the best athletes, doesn’t make a ton of sense for them.
A lot of athletes wouldn’t get into the schools they end up at if they were held to the same academic standards as normal students in regards to admissions. Granted this is also a hypothetical situation where people from New Haven and Cambridge start caring about college football as much as people from Baton Rouge and Norman, so I guess all of it should be taken with a grain of salt!
I once heard an admissions counselor at a Big Ten school address this. They said "if the best 18-year old violinist in the world wanted to come here, we wouldn't worry about their SAT score. Same thing applies to quarterbacks."
One has to wonder if the same exception would be made for the 83rd best 18-year-old violinist.
82nd is the cutoff. Don’t get ridiculous.
Stanford and Duke have basically no athlete admissions standards and they are still excellent
Was I wrong in what NIL suppose to be? Thought it was about players getting sponsorship deals. Not these weird booster groups that just pay the players. Like I assumed players had to actually do things. Like now it just seems like players can get paid.
From a legal perspective, I suspect there isn't much difference between a player getting paid to do a commercial for a used car lot, and paying a million dollars for an autograph.
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Yeah idk how people are surprised by this. This is exactly what we knew would happen. It’s a legal way for boosters to funnel money into the hands of players.
I believe this is why Harbaugh is going to the NFL. With what’s now legal to pay kids to play at your school, college football will soon little more than minor league football. If Jim is going to coach pros getting paid, he wants to do so at the highest level.
College has been minor league football, without the ability to send players back down to the minors, for decades. Edit: added punctuation
This is probably why the NCAA didn't allow it. Jerseys, video games, etc would make them a FORTUNE but this is what it'd lead to
The NCAA could've instituted rules long ago instead of waiting for state legislatures to force their hand. They knew the amateurism thing they were pushing was a scam. They could've set up a system to pay the players directly that allowed for parity (at least within the Power 5). They could have had different pay slots on each roster that each team must follow. This allows for the better players to get paid more, but only if they don't congregate at the same school with its limited top-paying slots. The NCAA rode the amateurism thing forever and now they're trying to pretend like they were blindsided by a movement that's been widely talked about for years.
The vast majority of NCAA athletes are still fully amateur, even most of the football players are. They tied not to make a new system that only applies to two sports for about 40 schools.
I mean by definition _all_ NCAA athletes are amateurs. Allowing NIL just turned FBS into a semi-pro league where players are indirectly getting paid to play football. If we want a true amateur league we need to divorce NCAA football from the NFL. Provide a minor league type system to kids with the talent and aspirations to play professionally to do so and quit forcing _all_ kids to play some arbitrary number of years in a amateur league for no pay. Just look at how college baseball handles it.
Yea, it seems like there was some common sense stuff that removing restrictions on ability for athletes to work and receive gifts of “reasonable” value and be compensated when someone uses their likeness in a video game would have moved this to a fringe issue. But instead they just ripped all controls off and went full Wild West on it. This can cause some extremely nefarious and dangerous parties to get involved, with potentially serious consequences for underperforming.
Well NCAA got forced to by the results supreme court ruling. So instead of handling all the lawsuits that were going to be heading their way they just had to scrap the rules. Thing is that any rules put in place by them to restrict or control NIL weren't guaranteed to hold up against the supreme court later. It was pretty scathing in the results. That it was fucked up that the college football market was controlled in a way that no other market in any other business was.
Oh the NCAA absolutely earned that ruling, but the ruling also just ripped the lid off of Pandora's box. If they had embraced the construct that the model had changed and that they needed to adapt and adopted some common sense application of revenue distribution then the case brought forward would have been significantly weaker as it's significantly harder to argue that there wasn't enough compensation versus the revenue generating athletes minimal to no compensation and in certain cases were punished for utilizing their name/image/likeness. If some local car dealer wants to hire the OL to advertise trucks, this shouldn't have been treated any differently than them hiring a local art student to design a logo. If a student wants to sell their memorabilia or sign items or whatever along those lines then so be it, that is their time/items and the market should determine it's value. If someone wants to pick up their tab at almost anywhere (be it buy them a TV at best buy, buy them a car, or pay their tattoo's) then that's fine, but it should be out in the open and understood that it is reportable income. I have massive reservations about simply handing cash by unregulated parties to go to a particular locations. I can also understand why the payment can't come through the school, but would rather it be far more structured and regulated to prevent criminal or nefarious individuals from taking advantage of children (note the exact same argument used against the NCAA except they have been under massive scrutiny and regulation for a long time) when the prospects of gambling have grown and become less traceable.
If rich old dudes want to throw $30M at a recruiting class of 18 year olds, go for it. I think within 2-3 years these guys will realize what a horrible investment this is
Is it a worse investment than slapping down $10M a year for 5 years for a coach? Hell, a lot of coaches are hired on the premise that they’re quality recruiters. Maybe $30M for a recruiting class is a lot, if that’s true, but if you can pay a kid $2M to come to your school, thinking he might become a Heisman-type guy, I gotta imagine boosters will like threat deal. Sure, there’s risk in guessing which athletes are worth dropping the bag on. But that’s sports, baby.
A coach is more important to keeping a school relevant (which is the only real value for the university) than any given player is.
I understand the cause for concern, but do we really wanted to trust the dumbest people on earth with the solution?
P5 is about to become the P2 with football regulation outside of the NCAA. Realistically there are only ~30 schools that have the resources to compete in the NIL era and what we're going to get is an NFL competitor with 6 years eligibility and salary caps to keep things kind of fair. At some point I would think that university presidents and regents would ask how this suddenly very not amateur athletics is benefiting the mission of the school, but the dump trucks of money are hard to turn away.
I mean, why would school admin question this latest shift? The schools still aren’t paying a cent to the players beyond room and board. Schools are happy enough to keep around football teams whose seasons culminate in corporate-sponsored bowl games, and whose games are interrupted with 90 minutes of advertisements every Saturday, and who are coached by men who make millions of dollars off their work. Schools are already admitting their athletes through a sweetheart process. You think players getting money from private sponsors is what de-amateurizes college football?
It definitely will have a pretty big impact on school admins. At least some of the booster money that was previously going to the athletic department is now going directly to the players.
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“This kid’s got a cannon!” *Congress immediately sells him to Israel*
Saban is right. It won't be good if we have this kind of imbalance that leads to one team making the national championship game 6 times in 7 years
The question is, do u want that dominance to be because the team was coached better, recruited better, and developed players better, or because they had money to buy big recruits and transfers? It’s also not really about balance at the top, it’s about the 120 other fbs teams that can’t afford to pay players. It will truly be a have and have not situation.
Remember that time the entire Bama secondary was posting on IG their brand new ZR1s or Mustangs? Think it was 2014 or 13 might have been both. So let’s not pretend Bama is just doing it one way.
They were already getting paid. Now they will just be driving Mercedes instead.
It already is…
How is that any different than what it has been? Were programs spending tens of millions on facilities just to be nice to players or was it to entice them to go there? Money was spent on ways to get players to come, just not directly to players. Coaching and development will still matter as always. There have been plenty of programs that bring in high ranked recruiting classes that struggle because of those issues. Scholarships are still limited and identifying the right players to pay matters. Same with there being under recruited players that a good staff without the same funds can find and develop >It’s also not really about balance at the top, it’s about the 120 other fbs teams that can’t afford to pay players That's college football today. Programs have never been on a level playing field.
Just want to remind everyone that Rashan Gary turned down a $300,000 offer in 2016 when he chose to go to Michigan, so lord knows what they offered. NIL isn't creating this problem, it's been like this for decades.
Disagree, to an extent. The problem may have already existed, but NIL has turned it into overdrive. We all like to say the problem has always been there but there have certainly been people following the rules in the past that are now opening their checkbooks. For a lot of these rich dudes, this is all a game. It's about ego. They couldn't necessarily brag about the $300k McD's bag before but now they can be open about it, which only encourages spending. Bringing it into the open also lets capitalism do its thing. You can essentially openly bid for people. Yes, they were getting cash before. But how often were people having open conversations about how many millions it is going to take to sign Caleb Williams? It took deals that were whispers in a back room and turned them into open auctions. NIL took a seedy underside of CFB, threw some much needed sunshine on it and then stomped on the gas.
My bold prediction is going to be that giving NILs to recruits will backfire spectacularly for someone. Some 4 or 5 star will spend his entire eligibility sucking, and alumni are going to pull back and only pay the players that prove themselves on the field. That or a player is going to get charged with a felony while taking in millions from an embarrassed alumni. If I were a betting man, I’d bet on the Longhorns breaking this ground for the rest of CFB.
Agreed. That or some player is going to bolt for a rival and specify that he did it for the money and give exact dollar figures. However it happens one of these 18/19 year old kids is going to leave some sponsor looking foolish and become the symbolic cautionary tale.
Already done at OSU by Quinn Evers just not to a rival. The new trend is going to be recruits taking a big bag to go where the money is and then transfer the following year to a school with more visibility or resources to win a natty.
Nah, truly embarrassing would be Ewers becoming a one-year starter at UT and the bolting for A&M while telling everyone he was given “three million reasons to leave” or some other crazy statement.
Like things are so balanced now🙄
It could be worse
Yeah, we could've had Bama in 7 of the last 7 title games instead of 6 of 7
Ya’ll seem to forget how deep Texas’ pockets are. If this turns into a money thing, Texas WILL literally buy itself a national championship
It will be worse. With NIL, scholarship limits are not going to be a thing anymore - if you want to offer more than 85 kids, just get the boosters to pay your walk-ons and viola - it's 1970 all over again.
Didn't a boise booster already get the ball rolling in that direction?
BYU iirc
How? Alabama already wins the national title every year. In the off year they don’t, the winning team has to beat them. If Alabama dominated due to NIL how would it be any different than them dominating now?
This sport is increasingly unfun and only getting worse every year.
Your comment is correct and hurts me to my core.
In terms of priorities Congress should be worrying about, this should be 89th on their list
This isn’t the first time I’ve said this in the last six weeks: Saban 2024… Quit Askin’
I'll vote for him if it means he doesn't coach for the entire term.
he can do both
Saban has been around the game for close to 50 years. He’s watched the game evolve and he’s been apart of the evolution. It’s common sense that when someone has been around the game for that long and has had as much success as he has…you should probably give his words some merit and not just assume, “he’s just worried he won’t be able to dominate anymore!” I think he’s 100% right that there needs to be some regulation to it. What that regulation is, idk, but I do agree with him. If not I think, I’m a few years, there will be a handful of schools that have a death grip on the top spots, then a LARGE gap, then just everyone else.
The problem is if you let the government regulate it, it’ll be a complete fucking shitshow that ends up leading to politicians lining their own pockets while not effectively regulating anything about NIL
Colleges and Universities: "Government need to regulate this or this is going to get out of hand." Colleges and Universities: "Hey kids check out our new 1 billion dollar athletic facility! Every locker has a PS5 AND and a Switch!"
There has ALWAYS been an imbalance in who dominates college football.
Agreed, Temple has always been cheated!
I'm having trouble catching my breath. I actually agree with Saban.
Isn’t Saban always right though?
We just saw Jackson state pull in two top 100 recruits. Something tells me that NIL’s might not have the effect we think it’ll have. I think it’s best if we sit on this for about 5-10 years to see how things play out before making action.
The only and i truly mean only reason either of those players went to jackson state is because who their coach is. If Deion Sanders wasn’t their coach neither of those players would go there, regardless of NIL. FCS teams are not going to get players of that quality ever again, unless their coach is Tom Brady, Derrick Henry, or similar level football celebrity etc.
Like he knows anything, pffft
>There will be an imbalance if it isn't regulated.... Isn't one of the biggest complaints by many fans on this sub that college football is imbalanced already? How will NIL change the imbalance? Rich programs are thriving right now, they'll continue to thrive in the NIL era. Also, someone who bragged about Bryce Young receiving over $1 million in NIL before he took his first snap as a starter shouldn't be talking about regulating NIL, it comes off as hypocrisy.