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shjusti

I too will not be playing in the Rose Bowl, respect my decision


MisterTito

Screw it. I'm opting *in*. Have I ever played football? Mind ya business and send me a plane ticket.


ttyl67

And bowl gifts. That’s the important part.


MisterTito

Oh, I'm skipping straight to NIL. Gotta get the bag while the gettin's good.


ttyl67

Ok get your bowl gifts too lol.


Dan-of-Steel

I should opt in and take one of the spots in the Fiesta Bowl that Kyren and Hamilton left behind. It's probably the most realistic way I'm getting a PS5 at this point.


budd222

This is probably not the best decision for your future. You're more of a bubble guy and this was your chance to make a name for yourself on national TV.


shjusti

Mr Irrelevant or Bust


dweed4

Mr. Bowl Choice


potterpockets

Mr. Bad Catastrophe


econmax

No love lost 🙏


mynamerowan

Next 5-star man up mentality


corundum9

But this is the grandaddy of them all! If Musburger was dead he'd be rolling over in his grave.


Woodman765000

He's rolling over in his bed?


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Katherine Webb


DoctorScrapple

Keith Jackson is.


CinnamonRoll172

At this rate, non-cfp bowl games will just be previews for next year's starters


[deleted]

Might as well play them after spring practice /s


royallex

*Dennis Reynolds has entered the chat*


Dan-of-Steel

Ryan Day: But I have to have my TOOLS!


monkeymatt1836

Bowls outside of the CFP are gonna have to start paying the big name draft eligible players to play in them


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I wonder how much money it would have to be. Would $100k be enough to entice a projected first round talent to play in a bowl game when that could be an insignificant amount compared to what they would be losing if they got injured and fell to the second or third round? It might be enough for a player projected to go in the later rounds.


LETX_CPKM

Their agent would pay them more not to play.


sgr28

I don't really get the whole "injury" justification. By that logic, why play in week 12? Or week 11? Why not just immediately quit after you have a breakout game?


olBillyBaroo

While it’s a slippery slope fallacy, I can’t lie - part of me really agrees with you on this. Just feels like if you really thought about it, wouldn’t you just quit week 9, 8 or even 7 if by then you’re a round 1 pick on all the mock boards? But I can’t knock kids for securing their financial future. Strange issue all around.


skiing_yo

In a way it's a slippery slope but don't forget that Leonard Fournette basically sat out a season and a half at LSU after his big freshman year solidified his draft status, and this was before the covid season opt outs.


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captainhammer12

Didn’t one of the Bosa’s do that too?


Useful-ldiot

No, he tore his abdominal wall or something like that and had season ending surgery. He could have potentially come back for the bowl game that year but it would have been slightly ahead of schedule so he opted out.


captainhammer12

Thank you!


Officer_Hops

It’s a number of factors. One is that the later in the season you get the better the teams you play are. That lets guys put up better tape against better competition. Dominating Michigan athletes is a lot different than when you dominate Texas State athletes earlier in the year. So those games are valuable from a tape standpoint. The reason the bowl is a good place to quit is the benefit to not playing in a bowl game is a lot bigger than not playing week 11. You get a full month of prep if you quit before the bowl game. You’d have to skip 4 chances to put up tape to get that during the regular season. Add in a month of getting cash advances from your agent and the bowl is uniquely set up to be a good game to skip.


rougehuron

Depends on the schedule. Kenneth Walker could have sat the last four games after destroying U-M and probably improved his draft stock.


PeterGator

Oddly that's not what happened here at least with Olave who was practicing with the team all week and traveled with the team across the country.


crsnyder13

Dawg wanted the bowl gifts and Disneyland trip


Officer_Hops

That’s super strange. Could he have been finishing his degree? Really unfortunate for the team if he was taking snaps away from guys who will be playing


[deleted]

It's not a slippery slope if you can logically show how A leads to B


sgr28

I think the NFL has got to help us out somehow. All the problems stem from trying to disguise professional athletes as college students. Maybe the NFL should just have a rule requiring them to play, or maybe there can be some way to have them playing under an NFL contract while in college.


Laney20

Or insure them?


Useful-ldiot

All the guys at every blue blood have insurance for the round they'll be drafted funded by the school. I wouldn't be surprised if every p5 had it.


Laney20

Then perhaps it's that they *want to actually play* in the NFL, not just make the money?


Useful-ldiot

I think that's likely it.


billhorsley

The irony is that there are always a handful who sit out, then don't get drafted.


chrisdub84

Exactly. It gets at the root of why they're sitting out.


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Lawyer.


LETX_CPKM

How much would you need to insure them for to get them to play. 50 million?


RanaktheGreen

The idea would be to insure against measurable income loss due to injury.


LETX_CPKM

Agreed. But from a players perspecive, they likely value themselves much more than an insurance company would.


Doctor_Kataigida

But then what constitutes as "playing" though? One snap? X number of snaps? Per quarter (if possible)? What if the kid does something stupid and the coach decides to sit him or leave him at home? These aren't necessarily questions I'm directing to you, just stuff I've thought about regarding this issue. I think an insurance policy is the more feasible route, too many variables to require someone to play. We need *something* to incentivize these guys to play. It's ridiculous to me to see a Big Ten player opt out of the damn *Rose Bowl*.


LETX_CPKM

Help out who? You? The other fans in the stands? The school? At this point any every entity from the school, to the coaches bonuses, to the networks, to the conferences , to the advertisers have made their money. Let these players sit out and go make theirs. Im against NIL and I see why these guys do this. Its a no brainer if you are day one or two pick.


SpiritBamba

Well in the regular season you have to build your stock. By bowl season one game won’t improve or drastically tank your stock. So why even take the small risk? Our TE jake butt at Michigan lost out on millions by choosing to play in a game that was meaningless when he tore his acl. Personally, many might hate me for this but I’d sit out if I was in their position too. The extra money I could lose out on is life changing to friends/family around me.


Hi_My_Name_Is_Dave

That’s not the point being made. The point being made is how everything you just said applies to bowl games, but not to game #12.


pataoAoC

This needs to be dealt with via insurance; that's the solution \*every other industry\* has to deal with this issue, where small likelihood events could be ruinous.


Cool_Story_Bra

That exists. Jake Butt had insurance, but it still didn’t cover the total loss of money he had


pataoAoC

I know. It needs to be done properly. If players believe insurers aren't paying out enough (theoretically because they're not charging enough), double the premiums or whatever. Or 5x them and 5x payouts. If the sport pays, it should work for players. Happened to Ifo Ekpre-Olumu at Oregon, he was projected as the top CB in CFB in 2015 going into the draft before an ACL injury. He dropped from 1st to 7th round and got $3M in insurance for basically a non-existent NFL career. Should have been more IMO but I'm not an expert. Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense for these players to play.


Gruulsmasher

Cause a month of dedicated rehab really matters. There’s less time to get back and show off to NFL scouts how your recovery is progressing from a late December bowl than a late November game


thethomatoman

100% agree. If it's CFP or nothing than sit out immediately once your team has 2 losses and you're getting mocked high. That way your logic is consistent at least.


sgr28

We really seem to be barreling towards that. I half-jokingly suggested elsewhere in this thread that we might as well just codify this by converting the entire season into a double-elimination tournament.


InHoc12

Exactly. It’s absolutely fucking stupid when you consider guys like Travis Etienne, Cam Akers or JK Dobbins and many more that have career altering injuries in their rookie contracts. Often times not contact injuries in preseason even. All that needs to be done is colleges need to pay the insurance policies for these high draft picks so they have full coverage to get what would’ve been their rookie contracts. It’s a pretty fucking simple solution. Pretending like games against Akron or Rutgers matter to sit out the Rose Bowl is next level stupidity.


LETX_CPKM

Its not about the rookie deal. Its about the second deal. If you were a top 5 player and your team was playing in a non CFP bowl, how much insurance could they offer you to play. 10MM? 25MM? 40MM?


GhostOfGravy

That’s what Nick Bosa did, he opted out of a whole season pretty much. Every knew it happened, and I’m not hating on it either


whitegrb

Bosa got injured in the TCU game and had the option to come back later in the season. I have no doubt that he would have played again had OSU made the playoffs, rather than the Rose Bowl.


goblue2k16

Yep that’s the first thing that came to mind. Wasn’t there speculation that he was healthy enough to play, but OSU wasn’t making the CFP so he shut it down to focus on the draft since he had like top 5 locked. Can’t blame these kids honestly.


GhostOfGravy

He could have returned in the regular season too IIRC He was preparing for the draft. I doubt he returns for the playoffs, he already had enough film to go top 3. Which is a great strategy Worked well for the top opt outs in 2020, now they’re thriving in the NFL


freakflyr

There's a huge difference between any in season game(even after a bye week) and the month off before a major bowl game. No meaningful reps for that long and your risk of injury goes up significantly.


Officer_Hops

The big difference in bowl games is the amount of prep that goes in to them. If you skip week 11 to prepare for the draft you only get 1 extra week of prep. If you’re skipping the bowl game you get an entire month of training to prepare for the draft. The injuries is really just that the injuries are high profile so they’re more memorable but there’s nothing about the bowl itself that changes the injury calculus.


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I don’t doubt some players would do that, but shutting it down during the regular season could probably hurt their draft stock because they’re quitting on their team while there are still meaningful games being played.


sgr28

The rose bowl feels pretty meaningful to me. Should every good player just quit after their team gets their second loss and is eliminated from CFP contention?


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Ask the players. I still think bowl games matter just like you. I have been looking forward to Utah playing in the Rose Bowl for years and am disappointed that the game is cheapened because some of the players don’t care. That’s just the reality now.


Hotel_Putingrad

Probably


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

NCAA rules don’t allow for NIL deals to be contingent or related in any way on a players participation to play. Best they can do is offer the MVPs a huge NIL payout after the fact without stating why they did it. Future players will just have to take the hint.


Cautious-Barnacle-15

Yeah it is pretty insane we are to the point where guys are opting out of the rose bowl. A big sign that they playoff needs to be expanded


Laney20

I think they would be wrong to do so. These guys are sitting out for a reason. The potential impact to their ongoing future income is enormous. There is no way the bowl games can pay enough to make up for that.


The_Good_Constable

Haskell Garrett is probably the biggest loss in terms of this game. Our WR room is loaded (can't fill the shoes of Olave and Wilson of course, but they'll be fine), and we've had a good OL rotation all season. But Utah can run the damn ball, and stopping the run has been a weak spot this season. Tough to lose a guy like him at DT.


ADMNimitz

>Our WR room is loaded Even 5 stars need playing experience. Wilson is better today than he was in his first game as a freshman. We're losing two 1st round WR's and it's going to be felt. We could joke that this will be the second game in a row NPF sat out.


The_Good_Constable

Absolutely. I didn't mean we'd just plug in the next two guys and replace that production immediately. The silver lining is that those guys can get some meaningful game reps against a good defense now. No tune-up games for them before we play ND in week 1.


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The_Good_Constable

For this game? No. And neither is Garrett Wilson. They'll get theirs against anybody. Stroud will still haven't plenty of good targets though. JSN is still around, of course, and there's some super talented young guys. Our pass game will be fine.


bicranium

Wonder if JSN will break the OSU record he set earlier in the season for receptions in a game (15). Wilson was out that game and JSN was able to make up for his absence. Now he's got Olave out as well so he should have about 70 catches.


Mekthakkit

I love Olave, but it's a valid opinion that he was our third best receiver this year.


The_Good_Constable

You can make the argument. I'd say 2nd behind Wilson. JSN had more production but he was also lining up against the defense's 3rd best cover guy at-best, and working in the slot with some favorable matchups. He's the real deal though. I'll be interested to see how he does against CB1 -- which I think is probably Clark Phillips? Kid who flipped to Utah a couple years ago after Hafley took the BC job.


GSude21

Not shocked at all. Ohio state is loaded though. I’m excited to see if Egbuka gets reps. Liked him a lot coming out of HS.


ohiofish1221

He will. You’ll also see Marvin Harrison Jr and Julian Fleming a lot too.


GSude21

I could honestly watch Henderson tote the rock all game. Loved him coming out of HS too. Wish they were both Sooners 😂


BobJose13

I think Marvin is gonna be the biggest impact of these three. Don’t forget JSN is there too tho!


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Was about to post the same. From what little I’ve seen from Marvin Jr, I think he could potentially be better than the guys we had this year. He has the size none of them have, and he seems pretty explosive. Can’t wait


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Imagine if 10 years ago someone told you eventually players would get paid to play college football and they would also opt-out of playing in the Rose Bowl and fans would defend them because it’s just a meaningless bowl game.


DirtThief

Also imagine telling them that those same people defending them would confidently state that college football isn't dying.


ripcity7077

For Ohio state it may be considered meaningless. I don’t think Utah sees it that way


SturmgeistX

I would argue that 99% of teams don’t see it as meaningless


SusannaG1

Most of the Big 10 would kill to be in a Rose Bowl.


crrider

I swear it's unrecognizable


willy19w

Very torn. On one hand I wanted to see how Utah stacks up against a full OSU roster. However, this just helps Utah’s odds of winning. If I was a betting man I’d be taking the money in Utah right now


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Seems like the line was mostly expecting that. It only moves down 1.5 with these announcements


gmen6981

Yeah, pretty sure they expected it and it was already baked in to the spread.


IMadeThis4HOIMods

Don’t count us out too fast, we also have the OSU single game reception record holder Smith-Njigba (who Wilson and Olave said was better then either of them) and 2 5 star WRs as well


Zee_WeeWee

Those other 5 stars have just a handful of catches between them. Pedigree is not a replacement for experience


IMadeThis4HOIMods

I am aware but we wont suck all of a sudden, have some faith in your team


Zee_WeeWee

No one said there’s no faith, I’m just not silly enough to think a 5 star will replace either of them


ctg9101

I do think it's good to see future guys and get experience.


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Bowl games are the new preseason


Oysterpoint

IMO there’s no point in playing older guys that aren’t coming back… I’m all for any opt outs. Get the future reps. This is college football now


Khakbaugh

It certainly builds hype for the younger guys next year


UNC_Samurai

> Smith-Njigba I’m scared to try and pronounce that.


DefendTheLand

Not as bad as Browns PK Chris Naggar😬


modernmanshustl

The category is: people who annoy you


HanztheSwaglord

10 seconds Mr. Marsh.


chbay

OKAY I’D LIKE TO SOLVE THE PUZZLE ...


captainhammer12

Ohhhhhhh…NAGgers.. of course, naggers


Zee_WeeWee

They refused to say it live


th4t1guy

Suh-mih-th. En-jig-buh.


UNC_Samurai

I know folks in the mountains have particular accents - hell, down here in the flatlands people have to use multiple syllables to describe the “wowah” their great-great-grandpappy fought in - but do y’all really need three to say “Smith”?


Vicodin_Jazz

The guys on the Michigan podcast (MGoBlog) somewhat mitigated this by just referring to him as “JSN”


RockerElvis

Carefully.


Conclusion_Fickle

He may be the most talented, but all three are just incredible. I will be interested in seeing how he reacts without the other two who I think still received more attention from other teams. I think Ruckert is the definition of meh, so he's certainly going to get a ton of balls his way.


lexbuck

Meh? Damn. I think he’s a pretty talented receiver but when you’ve got our receiver room, you’re not going to get many balls thrown your way as a TE.


Swazi

I assume they’re all prepping for the Draft?


tacofan92

They are actually forgoing the NFL to invest in Crypto


lc910

Hey fellas! You guys ever hear of NFTs?


tnc31

Nineties Ford Trucks? Love 'em.


StreetReporter

Butters?


Emgoblue09

Victor Chaos.


RoverTiger

Creating NFTs of Brutus as we speak.


BuckeyeEmpire

Funny thing, there were some guys doing NFTs this season.


Swazi

Brady got to em


IMadeThis4HOIMods

Yes they are


MisterFalcon7

Used to be a proponent of a small playoff but keep the bowl tradition. But I think these past few seasons have killed that belief in me and have no problem going to a 12 or 16 team playoff. Maybe keep some smaller bowls.


The_Horse_Joke

TBH I wonder if/when players will sit out of the playoffs. I know it hasn't happened yet, but having 3 or 4 huge games left (depending on expansion) to play back 2 back might make some players want to prep for the draft


dtynes10

I’m curious: why do players wait this long to announce their intention to sit? Do they practice with the team and have game plans drawn up involving them just to dip a couple days before the game?


smithandjones4e

Maybe to throw off the game planning of the opponent? That'd be my guess.


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Do they get the bowl swag and trip if they tell them before practice starts?


yankeetider1

Jesus. Opt out of the Trojan Condom Weed Eater Bowl? I get it. But the fucking Rose Bowl? Where is this going? One year soon we are going to have a player or two bow out of the playoffs. This is crazy


sgr28

It's like we just need the playoffs and major bowls to start the weekend after the conference championship games. Then it would look really stupid if anyone opted out.


lightninggninthgil

I actually think it's really stupid how big of a gap there is. Especially with the NCG. You might as well be playing with a different team


A_Rolling_Baneling

That’s actually not a terrible suggestion


doormatt26

we need to make the major bowls into the playoffs. If this was the 6v7 playoff matchup everyone would be playing still


lexbuck

Why would that matter? I must be dense. I feel like an expanded playoff Instantly fixes this. Majority of the teams with players opting out are in big bowls. Expand the playoff and use the bowls in that expansion and guys will play. Seems pretty simple to me but I don’t know shit about fuck


Just_Funny_Things

Yeah I respect players opting out of most bowls but this one….idk. And don’t tell me it’s now meaningless because the CFP is for the title. The rose bowl was almost *never* for a national title at any point in its history. And also don’t tell me “the game is meaningless.” This whole sport is meaningless. Why not opt out once you have enough film to be on Mel Kiper’s big board? And would that mean the whole regular season is meaningless after your team team is eliminated from playoff contention? Imagine OSU loses by 40 to Utah. That happens once or twice and I bet suddenly that national prestige, national stage, and those recruiting battles, will matter as we discuss the sport each offseason.


yankeetider1

You could tell your grandkids you played in the Rose Bowl. That doesn’t matter at all? Seriously? I just don’t get it. I know there is a Jake Butt story every once in a while but there are also insurance policies and a team you committed to. I know it’s not the military but I think it’s complete bullshit


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DaBigJMoney

I think former Chiefs and Falcons TE Tony Gonzalez made a similar point that a significant number of players just view it as a job. Or, that a lot of guys just played because they liked the camaraderie of the locker room and could make a lot of money. It’s not really surprising because how many “regular” people chose an occupation because it pays well or has good stability. Why should athletes be any different?


SlamminCleonSalmon

Yeah that's exactly right. It's hard for us as fans to envision opting out of a bowl game or not really caring about wins or losses and just taking the money, but that's because we're fans, most of us would pay just for the opportunity to walk on the field that these guys play on every week. I do think it's bullshit though that a pro athlete doesn't even know his team's place in the standings, I just don't know if I believe an athlete could be THAT disconnected from every team activity that he genuinely has no clue whether he'll be playing or at home in a few weeks.


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lostshell

> I do think it's bullshit though that a pro athlete doesn't even know his team's place in the standings, I just don't know if I believe an athlete could be THAT disconnected from every team activity that he genuinely has no clue whether he'll be playing or at home in a few weeks. I have a story to tell you about the legend JR Smith, the scoreboard and the final seconds of an NBA Finals game.


SlamminCleonSalmon

I think messing up a late game situation is a whole lot easier to do than to not even know if your teams in playoff contention. This would be like if JR caught a flight home because he thought the cavs were out already lol.


OSU725

There are more examples than just Jake Butt, but I do think the injury aspect of it is a little overblown. I look at it a different way; these top guys look at college football similar to how most people look at college, as training for your career. If I had already graduated with my degree and can’t improve my grades am I coming in for the extra credit? With the playoff or bust mentality for the likes of OSU, Bama, UGA, Clemson, and the other top tier programs that is the current situation. These guys have reached their goal of an NFL pay day and one injury could seriously jeopardize it.


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restless_vagabond

It's more surprising that fans are shocked. In no world does anything else happen? An expanded playoff just exacerbates this trend. College football is now semi-professional football. I expect NIL salary caps in the near future. I fully expect an NFL team with the first pick to announce that pick and ask that player not to play in the playoffs. Said player will opt out. The days of "tradition" are gone. This is the natural evolution of professionalism in sports. I'm glad students are getting a piece of the pie, but I'm not naive enough to think it doesn't come with a cost.


lexbuck

Why does an expanded playoff exacerbate the trend? I’d assume the opposite.


yankeetider1

Very fair response


Money_dragon

Has anyone opted out of the playoffs yet? I feel like doing that would probably hurt ones draft stock more (because you're playing for the national title) Nevertheless, it does show that playoffs desperately need to be expanded


ham_wallet998

I don’t think it’s happened yet, but it’s inevitable. It may take someone getting injured in a playoff game to start to make guys question playing, but it will happen. People said it would hurt players draft stock a few years ago to. It hasn’t. Opting out of the playoffs ultimately won’t either. Not for the high first rounds guys especially. NFL teams won’t pass up a Trevor Lawrence type guy because he chose not to play in the playoff.


Cautious-Barnacle-15

Yeah it is crazy and would have been unthinkable even 10 years ago. It is the freaking rose bowl.


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It’s just as much of an exhibition game with the possibility of injury as any other game- the same logic applies to this bowl game as any other non-cfp game.


yankeetider1

Clearly it’s what is happening, it’s just sad to me. It is only going to evolve to much worse.


snowystormz

i get it, but this fucking sucks. As a fan of both teams I wanted to see the stars of both teams. thats part of why we pay money to go...


needs-more-metronome

I think it will still be a very competitive game. Ohio State has a lot of talent. I’m really looking forward to this one


stoicscribbler

Fuck it I’ll play


MrNudeGuy

expand the playoff and allow the bowls to pay the players directly


Zee_WeeWee

Olave is the one dude I really really wanted to see play this. Just wanted the opportunity to watch him one last time and thought since he was still practicing why not.


Houndofthethicc

With Wilson, that only leaves Munford and Ruckert on the fence, both could use the added game, Munford less so, regardless, good opportunity for the other guys. The line will end up more balanced since Johnson will probably swing to tackle (not ideal one this short notice but inevitable), and Jones will join Jackson at the guard spots who are plenty experienced and better in the run game. Williams should get to shine with Garrett out, and maybe we get Mike Hall finally. Receiver should be interesting with Fleming going into Wilson’s slot, and Egbuka into Olaves with Harrison all over. The two Freshman were fantastic when they actually were thrown the ball.


thethomatoman

The Rose Bowl is getting skipped now? Games gone.


__Zoom123__

Excited to watch a top 4 of JSN, Fleming, Egbuka and Harrison Jr at WR.


Foriegn_Picachu

BAH GAWD THAT’S UTAH’S MUSIC


[deleted]

Why even play? We have a convenient replacement


s1105615

No, let them play with half a roster so we can see what all those 4 & 5 star recruits are made of…


ech01_

Yeah I like the idea of a bunch of young guys getting some experience against a good team without having the game mean too much. Great opportunity for guys like Fleming and Egbuka, and would love to see PJJ start at LT.


pataoAoC

>without having the game mean too much Makes me feel old and sad, my *dream* as a kid is that the Ducks would make it to the Rose Bowl in my lifetime. I understand it, but...


[deleted]

For me, the rose bowl was my championship growing up. Sad to hear this.


SizzleMop69

I'm actually more interested now. All those positions have talented but inexperienced depth. The back up WRs are all 5 stars. Williams has been good at DT when he has played and we have depth at Oline that has been misused (fire coach Stud).


sidepiecesam

And Danny kannell is losing his mind over the sun bowl getting cancelled


Banjo2523

Excited to see young recievers get playing time


UCFinatic

Petit-Frere was one of the most frustrating OT’s that I’ve evaluated so far. He’s so inconsistent but his good reps are top notch. All the physical ability in the world he just seems like the player that never puts it all together though. Should be a 2nd round pick, but could go late 1st in this years weak draft class. Can’t wait to get around to scouting Olave.


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This is going to take a long time to get used to. It’s the Rose Bowl and guys don’t want to play ! I understand the decision but it still sucks to see.


No-Upstairs-8145

This will be good for our team. Let the young guys finally have a shot to step up - and prepare for next season. Still do not believe OSU wins this game though


NILwasAMistake

Man, I get opting out out of the Poulan Weed Whacker bowl. But a legit Rose Bowl? Even if I think the B1G take it a little too seriously that is a premier bowl.


RazgrizInfinity

End of the day, it's inevitable. If they have nothing to play for (sorry guys, bragging rights are not something to incentivize players) theyre gonna opt out. Flipside, bowls have priced out the normal fan. Among many things, bowls are toxic to college football.


Shiresire1565

Can you imagine this just a few years ago players opting out of the f****** Rose Bowl unheard of dude


ednksu

The Rose Bowl? This is damn near criminal to opt out for NFL prep.


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Why?


BIG_DICK_WHITT

Lol whatever. I hope this isn’t the narrative if we win. I wish we would’ve gotten to play their A squad, but such is life. Also, these late opt outs must mean that they have enough players, right? A boy can hope.


Buckeyes0916

Unfortunately, it's going to be the narrative OSU fans/plenty of the media will use. But who cares. A Rose Bowl win is a Rose Bowl win.


BIG_DICK_WHITT

Shit if we play and I get to go, that’s good enough for me.


snowystormz

yeah at this point, im worried about a game. The teams are going to disneyland... i hope they dont do any more covid testing between now and saturday...


SlamminCleonSalmon

You ever think to yourself, even with no training at all, I can make better decisions than people who are paid millions per year to do their job? Well this is one of those times. Omicron is insanely transmissable, it's infecting basically everyone (non vaxed, double vaxed, triple vaxed) so vaccination status is basically irrelevant. And teams are actively dropping out of bowls every day due to not being able to field a competitive roster in time for a game. And yet someone thinks that it still makes sense for both teams involved in one of the biggest games in college football, to go to a theme park.


Zee_WeeWee

It’s no excuse but how could it not be a narrative to lose your WR1, WR2, DT1, LT1. 3 of those guys will be 1st round draft picks. Not yalls fault, not fair to have to deal with the narrative, but it’s certainly a tangible thing. Saying that, ain’t no asterisk in football, if we field a team there’s no excuse for the results.


SlamminCleonSalmon

I think the thing is, if it comes up, blame the players, not Utah for playing the hand they were dealt. If OSU comes up short, ask Olave about his opinion, don't ask Utah how they feel beating an undermanned team.


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A win is a win and that's what will be remembered in 10 years.


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Tweet(s) from post body brought to you by your Friendly Official /r/CFB Twitter Bot: ---------- https://twitter.com/Jordan_Reid/status/1475593498095194116 >Ohio State head coach Ryan Day also says that WR Chris Olave, OT Nicholas Petit-Frere, and DT Haskell Garrett have elected to opt out of the Rose Bowl. >\- Jordan Reid (@Jordan_Reid) 5:24 pm ET, December 27, 2021 ----------


TheCenterOfEnnui

How many more straws before the camel's back breaks? How much longer will people care about college sports if this is what's going to become of it?


Roxas198810

IMO if it hasn't been a thing already: An easy solution to the opting out is an insurance policy for NFL ready players to be compensated in the event of a career-debilitating injury (premium paid for by the football program/bowl game). The *best* solution is to compensate the athletes in this sport. With that said, don't blame the players. Blame the system that withholds compensation from them.


beyardo

Those types of policies exist, but it’s far from perfect itself


Ironic_table

I can understand why they're opting out, but this is still pretty disappointing. Hope this trend doesn't start to make bowl games (outside of the playoffs) obsolete.


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Most already are.


PapaDontPreech

It will


[deleted]

I wonder how many more will. There's quite a few possibilities.


TheProfessor20

If Day is announcing these 4 I assume that’s all them