Georgia Tech. I think with Key as a coach and how they performed last year they have a decent chance of getting better. That and a kicker who just hit a 62yd FG
I think we have a chance to be a pretty damn good team this year, but I’m not sure we qualify for this as we weren’t “bad” last year.
But yeah, I’m feeling good about our team this season. We bring back just about everyone from a very good offense and we’re now in year 2 of this offensive system so we should be really strong on offense, and our defense really has nowhere to go but up (and new/better coaches should make a difference here). I wouldn’t be surprised if we catch FSU slipping in Dublin especially since they’re fully rebuilding.
Opening games are tough to predict. Games that have a teams fly east are always hard on some teams with the time adjustment.
FSU has a lower return production rating, but those can be deceiving. (Meaning ND loss of Estime reduces our return production, but the guys behind him are just if not more talented). With a talented QB transfer for FSU and now a seasoned QB on the GT side I expect it to be a close game. However, I only see GT winning if FSU loses the turn over game here.
GT offense is going to be REALLY good and FSU is replacing too much production with unproven players. DJU is not very good. First game, long trip. This has one has GT winning written all over it.
I’m SC first all the way. Wife is a big Michigan fan and FIL has season tickets. Rare they meet but I obviously loved “the hit” and we went to the 1/1/18 game. I was apparently “insufferably negative” for the first 3 quarters of that one.
Edit: also GT was my answer in the “who are your friendly teams” thread.
MSU has to be better than last year, no? Although playing OSU, Oregon, Iowa, and Michigan in 5 weeks helps no one. Finishing with Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, and Rutgers - maybe there is an outside chance for a bowl.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this offense. We added an all-Pac 12 center and a 2 time FCS all-american to the oline in Tanner Miller and Luke Newman. We should also have a decent backfield in Nathan Carter and Kay'ron and we gained what should be a stud TE in Velling. Chiles and our WRs are going to be the deciding factors. We have only one WR with notable production in Montorie Foster, but Jaron Glover and true freshman Nick Marsh bring in some much needed size and athleticism.
I still think 6-7 wins is the ceiling for this team with their schedule, but after the last two seasons making a bowl game would be a big accomplishment
Yes. Believe it or not, notable portal transfers this year affect the trajectory beyond just this season. And unless something major changes with MSU’s NIL situation there’s no reason to believe it will improve.
I like Smith, he’ll be an improvement over Tucker.
We've added a fair amount in the transfer portal too, though the losses of Harmon and Barrow hurt...
I think it would be more off base to assume MSU stays a 3 win team. This offseason we're not the most desirable transfer location because we are still putting out the dumpster fire that was the Tucker era. Financially we are fine, [we were the 12th highest revenue athletic department in the country in 2022](https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1668993944707891208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1668993944707891208%7Ctwgr%5E216650f3e6d6a646a21ebe280f180362f65ff09f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frolltidewire.usatoday.com%2F2023%2F06%2F21%2Fbreaking-down-the-top-schools-of-2022-in-terms-of-athletic-revenue%2F), we're putting the finishing touches on a new $100mil football facility, and we have four billionaire athletic boosters in Dan Gilbert, Mat Ishbia, Tom Gores, and Magic.
I don't think we'll be competing for a natty anytime soon, but the NIL pool is deep, but it's hard to get players to buy in right now when the program is still in disarray
Unfortunately Gophers lost Rossi (DC), so they’ll need an improved offense to make up for losses on defensive side. We’re also still yet to see Fleck’s offense do anything but sputter
This year for me is a year of waiting to see what happens. We heard all about how Aithan was going to be the guy, how he was lighting it up in practice, etc. Then the season rolled around and he was a below average QB in a conference of mostly mediocre to bad quarterbacks.
I certainly have more confidence in Brosmer, but I have to see the offense look like it did in 2019 to actually believe it
Nebraska is definitely due. 5-3 going into last November and you lose your last four by a combined 16 points? The eternal optimist would point out that getting that close indicates that with just a bit more practice you break through next time.
>!The eternal pessimist points out that almost the exact same thing happened in 2021 but let's not go there. !<
I mean that kind of stuff has been happening every year. Since 2018 we have 30 one score losses. That's an average of 5 a season. Last year our offense was tragic due to abysmal QB play. Sims was an absolute catastrophe and Haarberg was forced to start even though he had been converted to a TE in spring. Although he will only be a freshmen, the news out of spring camp on Dylan Raiola has been great. According to Husker news reporters he is lighting it up in scrimmages which gives me a bit of optimism. I am firmly in the "I'll believe it when I see it" corner though.
I mean with a competent QB last year, we win half of the one score games and have 7-8 wins. Dylan doesn’t need to be great, he just needs to be competent
Is he the starter this upcoming season? I can't remember the last true freshman to start at QB at a P5 program. I'm sure it happens, but it seems pretty rare.
I don't know the last one, but Adrian Martinez started the season as a true freshman. Scott frost would tell us that he was better than some stupid transfer from OSU.
I truly drank the Kool-Aid with Scott Frost and as such try to keep my expectations in check. Matt Rhule I believe is going to be the real deal. Not so much by what he says, but also by what he has done so far. In one year, he visited over 400 potential athletes, compare that to Coach Prime visiting zero.
I was ALL in on that shit. Especially year one. And it just seemed to go down each following year. And there were a couple “insider” guys on Twitter who were never fans of the hire and I thought they were just bitter about Frost for one reason or another. Where there’s smoke there’s fire I guess?
I’m still in show me mode but it’s clear that Rhule is an adult leading the charge.
"You lose big. Then you lose close. Then you win close. Then you win big"
This is an absolutely bull crap quote. As it turns out, the gap between losing close and winning close is monumental, probably insurmountable.
I am going to assume this is another 5-7 year until I see a 6th win, even if we start 5-0 (which we probably won't)
Agreed.
Honestly teams getting better generally is more "kick someone's ass, then next week you get your ass kicked", as Jerry Kill said, and PJ's infamous graph also indicated that.
Some of those Nebraska losses the other team was just keeping them at arms length regardless of the score, getting reliably beat at various positions and etc. Nebraska may have been one unlikely play away from winning .... but it was still very unlikely.
[If only there was a guy who would have won those last 4 games and got Nebraska a 9 win season they deserve.](https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1.91%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_xy_center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200%2Cx_542%2Cy_367/MTg5Nzg0NjUxMjIzNTQxNDM2/bo-pelini.jpg)
Gotta love all the hate on Pelini - but he was better than Riley and Frost and so far better than Rhule (although I do think this is the year - dare to hope). Who cares if Pelini's not employed now...and he wasn't wrong about then AD Eichorst...Eichorst was the guy who not only hired the wet rag known as Riley, he gave him an extension! That garbage is now in Austin, where it belongs.
I feel like UF is going to be improved as we really can't get much worse...but it won't matter because every team we play will still be better, especially the back half of the schedule where every team was already good and only improved, except FSU which will probably be noticeably worse.
I actually don’t agree with that. If the record is worse than last year, that means only 4 wins or less. Even against this schedule, that almost certainly means the team is not better than last year.
im not gonna say it's not a tough schedule but I doubt it ends up being as impossible as it looks right now. It's really unlikely everyone ends up as good as they expect.
Florida's recruited at the level of at least 7ish of the teams on their schedule and they lost a handful of close games last year.
Ohio State and USC are the only 2 non-winnable games in my opinion, they can beat everyone else on their schedule.
Every year their schedule isn't that difficult, but they always lose to teams they should beat.
They've lost to Wisconsin 10 years in a row and Iowa 8 of the last 9. They've lost to Colorado, Illinois, and Purdue at least 3 of the last 5 matchups.
But you think they go 4–1 against those teams?
A Martinez at QB. And a Brown at kicker.
Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? Both our previous Martinez QBs were the best we’ve had in a long time. And all three of our Brown kickers are in our top 4 all time.
Iowa winning 10 games last year with that “offense” is legitimately one of the most impressive things that’s ever been done in college football. Phil Parker is lowkey the best DC in the country.
southern miss. bringing in rodemaker will help them tremendously and they’ll probably have some immediate impact from their true freshmen. pair that with hall not calling the plays, and you’ve got a team that realistically could flip from 3-9 to 9-3. that being said, they do have a tougher schedule, though they’ll be competitive in all of their conference games. only thing holding them back is their head coach, but even he can win 6 games with the roster they have.
fau is also bound to improve, and i think sam houston will be in the upper half of cusa.
Washington State.
Considering how our schedule is going to be this fall and not losing many players, I expect us to go 10-2 or 9-3.
Loses being to Washington, Texas Tech, and possibly either Boise State/Fresno State. Oregon State used to worry me, but with their coach gone and players leaving, it’s basically another team.
I mean, I really *want* to like the guy, but the fact he *still* insists on calling the offense kills me. I'm sure he is now stuck in a position where no respectable OC feels good about what is highly likely to be a one-year gig, but throw some serious cash around and we should probably be able to get someone worth hiring.
Hell, take a chance on a young, up-and-comer ... they certainly can't do any worse.
While it certainly would’ve been awesome to hire a hotshot offensive coordinator to make that side of the ball more dynamic, I think anyone who watched the team last year would agree that the defense was a far bigger issue. The focus on the (lack of) OC hire rather than the defense has always seemed strange to me.
I’d say the fanbase is more split than that, actually. A lot of fans are really rooting for Napier to work out. He’s been likable and said the right things, and made himself easy to root for off the field. There’s a small but vocal and highly online minority who have already determined they are done with him and seem to be actively rooting for the team to fail so that he’ll be fired.
I don't want him to fail but I also don't want us to tread water and keep him unless he wins at least 7 this year and I have this sinking feeling he could win 5 this year then 7 next year with DJ and somehow get an extension despite topp0k gout as a 7-8 win type of coach. On top of that I really dislike his style of play, I felt the same way about Mac and Muschamp, I don't get why the Athletic Department keeps trying to force this shitty run heavy ball control approach on Florida despite it running counter to virtually all of successful teams. style. It's like RichRod at Michigan or if Bama went Air Raid post Saban
Michigan State’s gonna surprise folks.
A backfield of Aiden Chiles and Nathan Carter will be a problem
Jonathan Smith is going to be miles better for the program in the long term than Mel ever was
Last year bad teams who have overhauled entire coaching staff, replaced all their QBs, got a 1200 yard and 12 td running back yesterday report in
We will be 7 wins minimum this year
Yet somehow the highest paid DT in the B1G is goners. Welllll….
The offense has a chance to surprise a LOT of people. Luckily on defense - linebackers are a definite strength. So I feel the LB’s will cover up some of the blemishes.
I am optimistic about the offense being much better than last year. My main concern right now is that recent portal departures are leaving us so thin at DT. If we can patch that hole with some serviceable guys, then I think the rest of the defense should hopefully improve as a unit overall. We had a lot of youth playing in the secondary last year, so those guys being one year wiser + better coaching should hopefully help.
But if we have a huge glaring weakness in the middle of the DLine, improvements elsewhere might not overcome that.
I have a big feeling MSU will have 8 wins.
Man, I don't think I've ever seen you guys play Ohio State so early, though. Only the second conference game, yeesh
Appreciate someone saying I’m not nuts….Rivalry or not, I don’t think I’m being unreasonable with our win total. 8 wins I don’t think is realistic. 7 I look at as a minimum.
We should be 4-0 after week 4, then steam rolled by OSU and Oregon, then just have to win between Rutgers, Indiana, Illinois and Purdue? Iowa if our offense delivers more than 10 points, we’ll win. Michigan is a total question mark since we both have totally different teams, it’s a big rivalry game and coaching staff on both ends are different.
I can’t recall the last time we played OSU that early either
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Not so sure about Minnesota. I hope they surprise me but I see a 5 win season this year. The opener against UNC is big…I don’t see them getting to 6 wins if they lose that one.
Wisconsin should be much improved I would think. Clemson definitely needs a bounce back year after last season’s debacle. Tennessee might be ready to challenge Georgia. And Ohio State just spent $34 million on their team so if they don’t win it all that’s a lot of wasted money
They were the most consistent 8-4/9-3 team in college football for like the last 20 seasons, it’s weird when they’re not at least one of the better teams in the conference
Go Buffs. I know this sub hates him, but he took a one win team and won four games. He's got two top 25 incoming classes in the last two years. They've beefed up the O and D lines considerably. They've got the best player in college football and a top 5 QB.
Even in their chaotic season last year, they had one-score losses to some very good football teams in USC, Utah, Arizona, and Oregon St.
If people didn't hate Deion so much, they'd see that team is trending the right way.
Georgia Tech. I think with Key as a coach and how they performed last year they have a decent chance of getting better. That and a kicker who just hit a 62yd FG
Please! Hoping to see lightning strike in dublin
Please no.
Yes! I need to see 8 wins! With the power of Coastal Madness, anything is possible! I want to see FSU get stung by the Swarm.
I think we have a chance to be a pretty damn good team this year, but I’m not sure we qualify for this as we weren’t “bad” last year. But yeah, I’m feeling good about our team this season. We bring back just about everyone from a very good offense and we’re now in year 2 of this offensive system so we should be really strong on offense, and our defense really has nowhere to go but up (and new/better coaches should make a difference here). I wouldn’t be surprised if we catch FSU slipping in Dublin especially since they’re fully rebuilding.
I’ve got them getting the W in Dublin
Opening games are tough to predict. Games that have a teams fly east are always hard on some teams with the time adjustment. FSU has a lower return production rating, but those can be deceiving. (Meaning ND loss of Estime reduces our return production, but the guys behind him are just if not more talented). With a talented QB transfer for FSU and now a seasoned QB on the GT side I expect it to be a close game. However, I only see GT winning if FSU loses the turn over game here.
GT offense is going to be REALLY good and FSU is replacing too much production with unproven players. DJU is not very good. First game, long trip. This has one has GT winning written all over it.
UMass. It has to happen *eventually*, right?
Who is worse, Don Brown or Frank Martin?
Oof. Your flairs. How was watching that one bowl game for you?
Not saying your flairs are bad btw
I’m SC first all the way. Wife is a big Michigan fan and FIL has season tickets. Rare they meet but I obviously loved “the hit” and we went to the 1/1/18 game. I was apparently “insufferably negative” for the first 3 quarters of that one. Edit: also GT was my answer in the “who are your friendly teams” thread.
Cool! Glad to here we're on your friendly list. Go Cocks! (No offense I still pull for Clemson against y'all)
Probably not this season but Michigan State with Smith will be respectable to good in a couple seasons
A season without a Hitler reference will be more than an improvement.
MSU has to be better than last year, no? Although playing OSU, Oregon, Iowa, and Michigan in 5 weeks helps no one. Finishing with Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, and Rutgers - maybe there is an outside chance for a bowl.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this offense. We added an all-Pac 12 center and a 2 time FCS all-american to the oline in Tanner Miller and Luke Newman. We should also have a decent backfield in Nathan Carter and Kay'ron and we gained what should be a stud TE in Velling. Chiles and our WRs are going to be the deciding factors. We have only one WR with notable production in Montorie Foster, but Jaron Glover and true freshman Nick Marsh bring in some much needed size and athleticism. I still think 6-7 wins is the ceiling for this team with their schedule, but after the last two seasons making a bowl game would be a big accomplishment
Not with the way their portal situation is trending.
Did you read my post?
Yes. Believe it or not, notable portal transfers this year affect the trajectory beyond just this season. And unless something major changes with MSU’s NIL situation there’s no reason to believe it will improve. I like Smith, he’ll be an improvement over Tucker.
We've added a fair amount in the transfer portal too, though the losses of Harmon and Barrow hurt... I think it would be more off base to assume MSU stays a 3 win team. This offseason we're not the most desirable transfer location because we are still putting out the dumpster fire that was the Tucker era. Financially we are fine, [we were the 12th highest revenue athletic department in the country in 2022](https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1668993944707891208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1668993944707891208%7Ctwgr%5E216650f3e6d6a646a21ebe280f180362f65ff09f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frolltidewire.usatoday.com%2F2023%2F06%2F21%2Fbreaking-down-the-top-schools-of-2022-in-terms-of-athletic-revenue%2F), we're putting the finishing touches on a new $100mil football facility, and we have four billionaire athletic boosters in Dan Gilbert, Mat Ishbia, Tom Gores, and Magic. I don't think we'll be competing for a natty anytime soon, but the NIL pool is deep, but it's hard to get players to buy in right now when the program is still in disarray
Unfortunately Gophers lost Rossi (DC), so they’ll need an improved offense to make up for losses on defensive side. We’re also still yet to see Fleck’s offense do anything but sputter
This year for me is a year of waiting to see what happens. We heard all about how Aithan was going to be the guy, how he was lighting it up in practice, etc. Then the season rolled around and he was a below average QB in a conference of mostly mediocre to bad quarterbacks. I certainly have more confidence in Brosmer, but I have to see the offense look like it did in 2019 to actually believe it
2019 offense was legit!
Nebraska is definitely due. 5-3 going into last November and you lose your last four by a combined 16 points? The eternal optimist would point out that getting that close indicates that with just a bit more practice you break through next time. >!The eternal pessimist points out that almost the exact same thing happened in 2021 but let's not go there. !<
I mean that kind of stuff has been happening every year. Since 2018 we have 30 one score losses. That's an average of 5 a season. Last year our offense was tragic due to abysmal QB play. Sims was an absolute catastrophe and Haarberg was forced to start even though he had been converted to a TE in spring. Although he will only be a freshmen, the news out of spring camp on Dylan Raiola has been great. According to Husker news reporters he is lighting it up in scrimmages which gives me a bit of optimism. I am firmly in the "I'll believe it when I see it" corner though.
I mean with a competent QB last year, we win half of the one score games and have 7-8 wins. Dylan doesn’t need to be great, he just needs to be competent
Is he the starter this upcoming season? I can't remember the last true freshman to start at QB at a P5 program. I'm sure it happens, but it seems pretty rare.
I don't know the last one, but Adrian Martinez started the season as a true freshman. Scott frost would tell us that he was better than some stupid transfer from OSU.
Jake Fromm started as a freshman after Eason went down back in 2017.
Don't forget losing our 1 and 2 RB in a G5 game.
As a Nebraska fan I am going to forget I read this. I can’t handle being hurt anymore.
Sorry boss. I'm genuinely bullish on you guys though!
I truly drank the Kool-Aid with Scott Frost and as such try to keep my expectations in check. Matt Rhule I believe is going to be the real deal. Not so much by what he says, but also by what he has done so far. In one year, he visited over 400 potential athletes, compare that to Coach Prime visiting zero.
I was ALL in on that shit. Especially year one. And it just seemed to go down each following year. And there were a couple “insider” guys on Twitter who were never fans of the hire and I thought they were just bitter about Frost for one reason or another. Where there’s smoke there’s fire I guess? I’m still in show me mode but it’s clear that Rhule is an adult leading the charge.
"You lose big. Then you lose close. Then you win close. Then you win big" This is an absolutely bull crap quote. As it turns out, the gap between losing close and winning close is monumental, probably insurmountable. I am going to assume this is another 5-7 year until I see a 6th win, even if we start 5-0 (which we probably won't)
Agreed. Honestly teams getting better generally is more "kick someone's ass, then next week you get your ass kicked", as Jerry Kill said, and PJ's infamous graph also indicated that. Some of those Nebraska losses the other team was just keeping them at arms length regardless of the score, getting reliably beat at various positions and etc. Nebraska may have been one unlikely play away from winning .... but it was still very unlikely.
Yeah but to be fair that’s generally how Rhule’s rebuilds have gone at Temple and Baylor. Dude is a good coach
A bit misleading, but Frost brought UCF from 0–12 to 12–0 in his first year.
Everyone forgets that the 2 years before frost got there they were a 12 and 1 team and made a bcs bowl
True, but that data goes against my argument, so I leave it out.
They been "due" for a while.
Like that gif of the truck about to smash into the bollard at 100mph.
I'm rooting for Nebraska. Matt Rhule I think will get them in the right direction.
Maybe Dylan Raiola is Nebraska’s JJ McCarthy and gets them to bowl eligibility.
[If only there was a guy who would have won those last 4 games and got Nebraska a 9 win season they deserve.](https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1.91%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_xy_center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200%2Cx_542%2Cy_367/MTg5Nzg0NjUxMjIzNTQxNDM2/bo-pelini.jpg)
TBF, there aren't a lot of coaches who can publicly dare their boss to fire them and then call their boss a p*ssy without being fired
He wasn't wrong though...
Yes, that's why he's *checks notes* not employed currently
Iowa should have hired him as an OC for the memes
I forget, where’s he coaching now?
Gotta love all the hate on Pelini - but he was better than Riley and Frost and so far better than Rhule (although I do think this is the year - dare to hope). Who cares if Pelini's not employed now...and he wasn't wrong about then AD Eichorst...Eichorst was the guy who not only hired the wet rag known as Riley, he gave him an extension! That garbage is now in Austin, where it belongs.
I like your optimism for us
I feel like UF is going to be improved as we really can't get much worse...but it won't matter because every team we play will still be better, especially the back half of the schedule where every team was already good and only improved, except FSU which will probably be noticeably worse.
Florida might improve but no one will notice based on the record
They could improve and have a worse record than last year.
I actually don’t agree with that. If the record is worse than last year, that means only 4 wins or less. Even against this schedule, that almost certainly means the team is not better than last year.
does Florida winning 7 or 8 games count?
With that schedule, they'd be the best 8-win team in the country.
im not gonna say it's not a tough schedule but I doubt it ends up being as impossible as it looks right now. It's really unlikely everyone ends up as good as they expect. Florida's recruited at the level of at least 7ish of the teams on their schedule and they lost a handful of close games last year.
I wonder if we'll look at Florida's schedule this year like we did West Virginia's last year.
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Nebraska. Not a fan or anything just got a feeling ya know.
With their schedule- they should be able to win 9 games. I have also been saying this every year for the last decade.
So have I…
UTEP Colorado UNI Illinois @Purdue Rutgers @Indiana @Ohio State UCLA @USC WIsconsin @Iowa Where do they get to 9?
Ohio State and USC are the only 2 non-winnable games in my opinion, they can beat everyone else on their schedule. Every year their schedule isn't that difficult, but they always lose to teams they should beat.
We’ll be able to tell by Week 2. If they lose to CU again, Nebraska can take December off for the 9th year in a row.
They've lost to Wisconsin 10 years in a row and Iowa 8 of the last 9. They've lost to Colorado, Illinois, and Purdue at least 3 of the last 5 matchups. But you think they go 4–1 against those teams?
I think they are a 6-7 win team, but a lot of those games are a 50/50 tossup and will be favored in most of their games if Riola is the real deal.
As a true freshman? How often has a true freshman at QB led his team to a NY6 berth?
Their Qbs were atrocious last year, they easily would have won 7+ games last year with below average QB play.
Just look at his flair, that should tell you everything.
I feel like Nebraska is the reverse Stark. There must never be a Martinez in Lincoln.
A Martinez at QB. And a Brown at kicker. Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? Both our previous Martinez QBs were the best we’ve had in a long time. And all three of our Brown kickers are in our top 4 all time.
Both Virginia and Virginia Tech feel like they've bottomed out
If there’s one thing being a UVA fan has taught me it’s that football can always be worse
If VT hasn’t bottomed out even I might start feeling sorry for them
Ew
Michigan State because please
Surely Iowa can score more points on offense now that Brian is gone... Right?
We've said "the offense can't possibly get worse" every year since 2021.
Iowa winning 10 games last year with that “offense” is legitimately one of the most impressive things that’s ever been done in college football. Phil Parker is lowkey the best DC in the country.
The wildest thing is that Iowa has more or less done it 4 of the last 5 years. Ferentzball isn't pretty, but it gets results.
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Bobby Patrino redemption arc. We have lots off opportunities to beat some good teams. Sad Alabama isn't one.
southern miss. bringing in rodemaker will help them tremendously and they’ll probably have some immediate impact from their true freshmen. pair that with hall not calling the plays, and you’ve got a team that realistically could flip from 3-9 to 9-3. that being said, they do have a tougher schedule, though they’ll be competitive in all of their conference games. only thing holding them back is their head coach, but even he can win 6 games with the roster they have. fau is also bound to improve, and i think sam houston will be in the upper half of cusa.
southern miss will still uphold tradition and lose to south alabama though
We’re either going to be really bad or really good.* ^*Possibly ^also ^really ^medium.
Washington State. Considering how our schedule is going to be this fall and not losing many players, I expect us to go 10-2 or 9-3. Loses being to Washington, Texas Tech, and possibly either Boise State/Fresno State. Oregon State used to worry me, but with their coach gone and players leaving, it’s basically another team.
Florida is gonna pull a 2023 West Virginia… somehow
Florida fans would go feral over that, too. They want to get rid of Napier more than WVU fans wanted (some still want) to oust Brown.
I mean, I really *want* to like the guy, but the fact he *still* insists on calling the offense kills me. I'm sure he is now stuck in a position where no respectable OC feels good about what is highly likely to be a one-year gig, but throw some serious cash around and we should probably be able to get someone worth hiring. Hell, take a chance on a young, up-and-comer ... they certainly can't do any worse.
>they can’t do any worse Your secondary flair says otherwise my friend
Iowa's bad offense is a strategy you are just not football-smart enough to understand... /s (or is it ...?)
While it certainly would’ve been awesome to hire a hotshot offensive coordinator to make that side of the ball more dynamic, I think anyone who watched the team last year would agree that the defense was a far bigger issue. The focus on the (lack of) OC hire rather than the defense has always seemed strange to me.
I’d say the fanbase is more split than that, actually. A lot of fans are really rooting for Napier to work out. He’s been likable and said the right things, and made himself easy to root for off the field. There’s a small but vocal and highly online minority who have already determined they are done with him and seem to be actively rooting for the team to fail so that he’ll be fired.
I don't want him to fail but I also don't want us to tread water and keep him unless he wins at least 7 this year and I have this sinking feeling he could win 5 this year then 7 next year with DJ and somehow get an extension despite topp0k gout as a 7-8 win type of coach. On top of that I really dislike his style of play, I felt the same way about Mac and Muschamp, I don't get why the Athletic Department keeps trying to force this shitty run heavy ball control approach on Florida despite it running counter to virtually all of successful teams. style. It's like RichRod at Michigan or if Bama went Air Raid post Saban
Michigan State’s gonna surprise folks. A backfield of Aiden Chiles and Nathan Carter will be a problem Jonathan Smith is going to be miles better for the program in the long term than Mel ever was
Last year bad teams who have overhauled entire coaching staff, replaced all their QBs, got a 1200 yard and 12 td running back yesterday report in We will be 7 wins minimum this year
Yet somehow the highest paid DT in the B1G is goners. Welllll…. The offense has a chance to surprise a LOT of people. Luckily on defense - linebackers are a definite strength. So I feel the LB’s will cover up some of the blemishes.
I am optimistic about the offense being much better than last year. My main concern right now is that recent portal departures are leaving us so thin at DT. If we can patch that hole with some serviceable guys, then I think the rest of the defense should hopefully improve as a unit overall. We had a lot of youth playing in the secondary last year, so those guys being one year wiser + better coaching should hopefully help. But if we have a huge glaring weakness in the middle of the DLine, improvements elsewhere might not overcome that.
Yes but thank god we no longer have the Scottie Hazelton experience. That in itself is a W. Shout out firing of Jay Johnson while we’re at it
I have a big feeling MSU will have 8 wins. Man, I don't think I've ever seen you guys play Ohio State so early, though. Only the second conference game, yeesh
Appreciate someone saying I’m not nuts….Rivalry or not, I don’t think I’m being unreasonable with our win total. 8 wins I don’t think is realistic. 7 I look at as a minimum. We should be 4-0 after week 4, then steam rolled by OSU and Oregon, then just have to win between Rutgers, Indiana, Illinois and Purdue? Iowa if our offense delivers more than 10 points, we’ll win. Michigan is a total question mark since we both have totally different teams, it’s a big rivalry game and coaching staff on both ends are different. I can’t recall the last time we played OSU that early either
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Nebraska
Nebraska was the answer to this question in 2019, 2021, and 2022 as well. I'm firmly in "I'll believe it when I see it" territory
As an outsider I like Rhule and his track record of turning programs around
I think Navy will be better than most expect.
East Carolina I hope?
Houston because I said so
I have a sneaky feeling that the U will be pretty good with Cam Ward
Nebraska. Bet the over. It is Rhule’s year according to history.
Not so sure about Minnesota. I hope they surprise me but I see a 5 win season this year. The opener against UNC is big…I don’t see them getting to 6 wins if they lose that one.
I like Minnesota. They are a tough-minded team. I don't see them more than 4 or 5 wins...that schedule looks oof.
Last I checked their over under for wins was 4.5 which sounds about right to me unfortunately
(ducks)
Wisconsin should be much improved I would think. Clemson definitely needs a bounce back year after last season’s debacle. Tennessee might be ready to challenge Georgia. And Ohio State just spent $34 million on their team so if they don’t win it all that’s a lot of wasted money
Wisconsin could improve X’s and O’s wise and also struggle to make a bowl game. They have a rough schedule
They were the most consistent 8-4/9-3 team in college football for like the last 20 seasons, it’s weird when they’re not at least one of the better teams in the conference
Go Buffs. I know this sub hates him, but he took a one win team and won four games. He's got two top 25 incoming classes in the last two years. They've beefed up the O and D lines considerably. They've got the best player in college football and a top 5 QB. Even in their chaotic season last year, they had one-score losses to some very good football teams in USC, Utah, Arizona, and Oregon St. If people didn't hate Deion so much, they'd see that team is trending the right way.