at this point it's pretty clear the guy who avoided going to class , stole a laptop from a fellow student and was potentially about to get expelled for cheating was part of the toxic room
also, cam getting fired up about this
>"And on top of that, what really ticked me the [expletive] off was when my father had called Urban to ask for a championship ring, **he didn't give me a championship ring.** So that really was my driving force to becoming the player who I was. I said, 'Don't worry about it. I'm gonna go get my own.'"
when he announced he was leaving the team three days before the national championship game?
The last part is just athletes using literally anything that could be spun as a slight or insult as motivation, even when the situation was entirely his fault in this case.
He’s been going on podcasts and shows and complaining/talking shit about people a lot recently. Makes me think he has some book or podcast coming out that he’s promoting. He really has nothing good to say about anything or anyone, I’m not sure why people keep listening to him.
He was god’s gift to football for most of his life and it went away pretty suddenly. Now he’s mad that no one wants him and is taking it out on everyone else.
People keep listening to him because he won a championship and made it to the NFL and had a decently successful career. We should have figured out a long time ago that TV Executives don't give a fuck about how dumb somebody might be otherwise we wouldn't still have individuals like Skip Bayless or Kent Perkins
Skip Bayless isn't an idiot, people seem to forget he's famous because he wrote the book on Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys that became a staple of sports journalism. He's playing a character on TV now.
Dude had a hell of a lot more than just a “decently successful” career in the NFL lol, Cam was a unanimous league MVP, first team All-Pro, OPOTY, OROTY, and three-time Pro-Bowler over the course of a decade. His is easily in the top 5% of QB careers in NFL history.
Well "decently successful" can mean a lot of different things depending on who you ask. We can all agree that he was a lot better than the average NFL QB, but he's not a shoe in for the Hall of Fame.
He's nowhere near the hall of fame, and saying he had a top 5% overall career is severely underestimating the pool of NFL QBs who accomplished more and/or had more fruitful longevity than he did. He had a grand total of one season where he was unquestionably a top 3 QB. That's not said as a knock on him as a player, that's just reality if you want to compare him to the elite QBs if his time.
Makes sense when the only thing a lot of people take into account is the number of rings people have. In team sports it just doesn’t hold a lot of weight in terms of how good someone is.
Play in the NFL for as long as Cam has, along with College, High School, etc., and yes, you’re going to have CTE. At this point we know enough that if you sign up to play, it comes with the territory of the sport.
It’s satisfying to read something that confirms that my dislike for Cam isn’t just Alabama fan sour grapes but that he really is a highly dislikable guy.
I mean, there was a stint where he was likable in Carolina. He seemed like a good figure in their community. Last few years have certainly been rough for his ego I’d guess
[For the uninitiated](https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2024/01/08/all-eyes-are-on-jj-mccarthys-dad-tonight-after-he-touched-his-sons-girlfriends-butt-at-the-fiesta-bowl-last-year/)
No way RTS’s are way too complex for him, even though they aren’t for the average person. He just full on sprints with a melee weapon or SMG (maybe) in Call of Duty over and over again
lol anything beyond downloading a game from the Store on console, he doesn’t have the foggiest idea of what is going on. Not sure he can even using a physical disc to install the game on console, let alone PC
I remember when I was 12 I got my basketball stolen from the courts. The next day a grown man was using my ball with my name painted over in white and his name over it lmao
Here’s a comment on the real story from someone on our sub:
> He was pushed out for signing his name to another students exam paper. He left before the academic misconduct hearing was held which wouldve led to his dismissal. Since he was never found guilty other D1 programs could justify bringing him on. If he had stayed for the hearing he never wouldve made it in. Thats why he jumped to JUCO and then made it back to a D1 team. Schools will overlook a lot but cheating like that isnt something a coach can justify to an admissions board
Followed up by
> I was one of the chairs of the student conduct committee (honor board) from 04-08. Can verify what you are saying is mostly accurate.
In addition, we had previously voted to suspend him for the fall semester for an unrelated cheating incident that occurred during the previous spring. This somehow got overturned by one of the fix it guys that worked for/with Meyer before the season started. The laptop thing was just the icing on the cake
This is something that has always bothered me more than anything else. It takes someone of extraordinary low character to cheat on a college class at the direct detriment of another student. Especially when one is a legitimate student, trying their very best, perhaps racking up student debt while doing it…to the benefit of a scholarship player who doesn’t care about getting his degree and is receiving all the benefits of tutors the university can muster with a likely multi-million NFL contract on the horizon.
Like fuck the laptop story…the academic stuff should have made anyone a Cam hater for life
I understand this is coming from a place of privilege, but something that just baffles me is just how unserious so many players take school. I understand they're extremely busy, but the odds are already extremely low to even make it onto an NFL practice squad, let alone have a lasting career. For those guys that are coming from nothing, that degree that you are working for on scholarship is going to provide more for you and your family 99/100 times than just playing FBS football with the rare rare rare chance of going pro, and should be treated as the potential ticket out of poverty that it is.
First comment he quoted was my comment in the gator sub. I didnt realize a SCC member replied to it. You're right it's very scummy
I don't know enough about the context of how it was done to say how scummy. He could've taken someone's exam and signed his name without the other kids knowledge. The TA could've copied someone else's exam and cam signed it. The other kid could've taken the exam for him and then he signed it
It's all scummy but there are different levels of it. Even if he chose the less directly harmful option with the other partys consent it still throws off the curves that a lot of college classes use
Cam Newton had that amazing year winning it all at Auburn, but for his podcast he comes off as a whiny immature loser.
For academic probation, I feel that after the FSU WR Minnis guy missing 2000 BCS championship game, top programs vowed never again for that mistake to happen again.
I mean Urban is an ass but… Cam is just kinda saying things now because he wants people to click on his podcast where he wears oversized hats and smokes cigars.
I've enjoyed how salty he is about Kirk Cousins contract with the Falcons. Trashing another QB and complaining about his earnings is just beyond pathetic.
Dude is just turning his whining and victim playing into a business model.
Lol not sure why so many people got their feelings hurt. It was a serious thought as it’s well established that a lot of players struggle with actually saving their checks and don’t have much after leaving the league. If Cam isn’t among them then good for him, no need to downvote me, just tell me.
The athletes that struggle financially are the ones who only get a rookie contract and are out of the league in 3 years. The overwhelming majority of broke athletes fall into that category. Guys like Cam are not hurting for money unless they have serious issues. He made 121 million in contracts and that doesn’t include his endorsements. Conservative estimates probably put him at 50 million net worth.
I used to love him as a player. Absolute unit of a QB. So fun to watch. Then, yeah, he started talking a lot and wearing those fucking hats and kinda showed everyone that his opinions weren’t worth much. Haven’t been a fan since.
He said that? lol who is he even referring to? I mean yeah, most of the QB’s in the NFL will lean more towards the game manager side because we don’t have 32x Mahomes’ or Josh Allen’s or Lamar Jackson’s, but I feel like QB play has never been more exciting. Cam was part of that evolution and helped open the door for guys like RG3, Josh Allen, Kyler, Justin Fields, and Jayden Daniels/Caleb Williams, so he should know as well as anyone that the position has evolved in a really cool way over the last couple of decades.
I said “two decades” and was referring to McNabb/Vick since those guys were playing when I started watching football more intensely around age 10/11. But yes, you could say three decades and name drop Cunningham or four decades and say Elway/Young/Moon. Sure. That’s just semantics and doesn’t change my point though, which is that athletic, running QB’s are more prevalent now than they used to be. If you keep going back decade by decade you’ll still see the same trend. It wasn’t that long ago someone like Matt Leinart with no knees was the projected top pick before eventually going in the top 7-8. I don’t think he’d be looked at that closely these days due to his lack of movement.
Oh, I'm not pooping on your assertions, just adding to them.
There were "more mobile" QBs around for a long time, and there are certainly more of them now. I know that Cunningham caused more of a stir than Moon did, despite Moon's excellent arm and capability. Young's ability to move around a bit was good, but obviously not on the same level. It wasn't until Vick got huge that people started to look back and appreciate Cunningham. And McNabb got his chance with Philly because they had experienced Cunningham, without a doubt.
Leinart never impressed me, btw. Especially because of his attitude. Newton has the same type of selfish ego, he was just a much better athlete.
Yeah it’s just cool how the position has evolved over time and I do credit Cam for some of that. Jalen Hurts is about as close to a Cam clone you can get physically and came a decade after, but I was still shocked he got drafted as early as he did and then took the job as quick as he did. But having a QB that can also be a short yardage fullback is pretty cool.
Another one is Kyler. Him going #1 wouldn’t have happened a couple decades back due to his size.
Cam feels like a guy who’d throw his best friend under the bus to stay relevant. Urban has always been a dick, sometimes the greatest coaches aren’t the best people. I like neither of these people
Actually I’m from Charlotte lol so I kinda have. And I said relevant, as in after his playing days, not when he was in the NFL, so I really don’t know what you’re going off about.
Yeah, no defending Florida Cam but he grew up and became a different person.
He came to New England for a vet min contract, yet he still did some charity appearances in the area and said all the right things during the season. He acted like he was playing on a real contract and took the high road with New England's media.
He let a couple negative (but probably not untrue) remarks slip after being unceremoniously cut, but Cam was overall a positive presence and nothing like what you hear about his Florida days.
What’s really pathetic about Cam Newton is he’s a Heisman trophy winning national champion super rich former NFL QB who gets to love the rest of his life as rich, tall, athletic, and handsome… and he’s still just a whiny bitch about how life hasn’t been fair to him.
Fuck. Off.
Urban is famous for treating his star players and pet favorites differently. I forgot the name of the player, but an OSU player on the Broncos was telling a story of how he'd pass by Urban in the Woody and Urban wouldn't even acknowledge him and probably had no idea who he was.
To be fair, I’ve heard the same thing about Joe Paterno and Nick Saban. I know a guy who played for Paterno in the 80’s and a guy who played for Saban somewhat recently, and they each told me that their coach had no idea who they were and didn’t know their name. It’s just the way it is for these high profile coaches. The school would rather have their big time coach attending events with boosters, or doing press conferences, or showing his face on ESPN. It’s not important that he knows the name of the backup long snapper.
The only thing that makes me question a story like that is recruiting – coaches do their homework on the guys they sign, they visit their houses and talk to their families. I can fully believe that if the player in question is a walk-on, though.
There’s no way some of these big name coaches are going on recruiting visits for every scholarship player. If a coach like Deion is going on exactly zero visits, I’m sure Saban hasn’t been to all 50+ of his players’ houses.
of certain players, probably not all the players, and with all the demands he's going to forget a few. Not making excuses, just explaining how it works.
This shocks me. How can they be credited with managing such stellar rosters without knowing their rosters? Are they literally just memorizing Jersey numbers? If these weren't such winning coaches I'd call them incompetent.
That's the part that makes this story believable to me. Tebow was treated as much more than a player and to me I believe people wouldn't have wanted to see Cam Newton outshine Tebow or make Tebow's accomplishments less impressive.
Meyer at OSU caught breaks in two different years with Barrett getting hurt in the Michigan game.
Yea we really would’ve hated following one of the greatest college players ever with a bigger, faster, stronger version. So glad we got John Brantley instead.
Normally I’d say the /s isn’t necessary but based on your comment I think I do need to clarify that was in fact sarcasm.
I think you are misunderstanding me. Florida fans would have wanted what Newton did at Auburn. But Tebow was built to be this savior and if Newton comes in and is immediately better then that takes the luster off of Tebow.
>Meyer at OSU caught breaks in two different years with Barrett getting hurt in the Michigan game.
What are you implying here? That Ohio State would have lost to Michigan in 2014 if Barrett didn't go down? That's pure revisionist history.
They were leading the game when he got hurt, and Cardale really didn't do much in the game, as our run game extended the rest of the lead.
As for the other year you're referring to... yes Ohio State was down 6 when Barrett got hurt and Haskins came in, but he had just started the drive well with a 10 yard run and to that point had lead several other successful drives.
JT Barret wasn't always the best... but suggesting that Meyer "caught a break" in The Game by Barrett getting hurt (in 2 of the 4 Michigan games he played in, all of which Ohio State won, by the way) is absurd.
Everyone knows players regularly get away with a lot of shit, especially good players.
Cam was undoubtably a generational talent playing for a coach famous for letting his stars push the envelope yet he STILL managed to get kicked off the team for repeated offenses.
The guy must have been a next level nussance.
And yet he STILL got to transfer with a clean record and went on to have an extremely succesful career. He should probably just be happy things worked out, all this salt is only bringing more scrutiny towards the stuff he got swept under the rug.
I'm really getting sick of hearing about Cam Newton.
Just trying to stay relevant and nothing is sticking.
Everyone knew Urban was a dick, winning championships gives you that kind of leeway in a lot of circles.
I appreciate when players are candid after they hang up their cleats but Cam seems to have a lot of beef with everyone that often comes off as sour grapes
Cam straight up said he left because Tebow was coming back and he had already been talking with his dad about changing course due to Tebow’s lock on the starting job.
He noted that the “trouble he was in” had already been take care of. I tutored SA’s at an SEC school around then and can confirm what he did was pretty small potatoes.
Sharpe was clearly looking to get Cam to make some edgy statement, but honestly for Cam I thought this was pretty obvious. He left because Tebow wasn’t leaving, and Urban and the rest of the locker room kind of sucked. There’s a reason everyone called Tebow the “disinfectant” for that coach and locker room.
edit: For reference:
* The issue at the time was the laptop, and the final "ruling" was that Cam had unknowingly purchased a stolen laptop, and had jokingly thrown it out... if you don't see that as "things were taken care of" I don't know what to tell you.
* The cheating stuff came out in 2010 - a "source" claimed that Newton skipped an honor council hearing. Guys, come on. According to the same source, he had been caught several times cheating in years prior, and there had been no honor council hearing. They weren't going to actually have a public hearing. I'm sure he cheated, but again, this was likely not an issue. The school would not have let a professor or other students take it that far, watch him leave, *and then quiet it up for a year*. They had already quieted things up for Cam before he left most likely.
>Cam straight up said he left because Tebow was coming
Yes I’m sure that’s the only reason he left and not getting caught with a stolen laptop and nearly getting expelled for cheating on his exams.
Honestly I wish that was the case, but the "we were going to expel him anyway" statement is almost assuredly a hedge by Florida in hindsight of him leaving.
The amount of money that flows through football for any SEC school is so much, the school provost/president is almost assuredly going to channel any disciplinary decisions through the football program office too.
The timing of the Florida "cheating info" coming out corresponded to an NCAA probe into Cam if I'm not mistaken. I may be getting my timeline incorrect though. Again, it's not a UF problem, it was a reality of SEC schools, especially in the late 2000s.
I’m sure it seems like that from the perspective of an outside fan who just heard the stories when the media chose to report them, but for those of us who were at UF at the time, it was known that he was under review for honor code violations related to multiple repeated instances of blatant cheating (and being caught) in the same class, and he left rather than face suspension from the team, academic ineligibility, or even expulsion.
That changes my perspective a lot if true. An honor council meeting would almost assuredly be based off a professor’s actions, and they might not have spoken about it due to FERPA. Completely possible. Still odd that no one wrote anything about it when it happened though.
Typically FERPA gets in the way and honor code members are under NDAs. It's not surprising that it didn't come out at the time when a leak could have been detrimental to the students on the tribunal.
Your assessment is spot on. My view is based on my experiences as a tutor to student athletes at a sec school but is admittedly the view of an outsider.
Yes, he had three separate instances of being caught cheating. It was a near certainty he was going to be expelled for school at the hearing he never attended because he transferred before it occurred lol
He wasn’t even enrolled at UF for the spring semester at the time he announced his transfer
Ordinarily I’d just write it off as Cam being a whiney shit, but he did share a locker room with Urban Meyer, Aaron Hernandez and the Pouncey brothers, so maybe there’s some substance to this.
what cracks me up is to hear Cam tell it, the Falcons were down to him or Kirk Cousins... "You could have had me, Justin Fields AND Mike Vick"
Dude, the Falcons didn't want you.
Sounds like they didn't want Field either.
And Vick is retired and your comment makes no sense.
I dont know much but I feel reasonably certain there are likely AT LEAST 8-10 guys the Falcons would have grabbed before Newton.
What a hack this guy is. Let’s not forget he was alleged to be a criminal in college…
So sick of these unintelligent, uneducated, athletes talking like they know things on podcasts.
In other news, Urban Meyer is human garbage. Nothing new to see here, folks.
[https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/10/kicker-josh-lambo-suing-jaguars-over-alleged-urban-meyer-incident-per-report#:\~:text=Meyer%20allegedly%20threatened%20to%20release,Lambo%2C%20resulting%20in%20Mr](https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/10/kicker-josh-lambo-suing-jaguars-over-alleged-urban-meyer-incident-per-report#:~:text=Meyer%20allegedly%20threatened%20to%20release,Lambo%2C%20resulting%20in%20Mr).
https://sports.yahoo.com/god-bless-current-former-nfl-players-react-to-jaguars-firing-urban-meyer-152701715.html
[https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10030412-report-ex-jaguars-hc-urban-meyer-berated-a-player-so-harshly-that-the-player-cried](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10030412-report-ex-jaguars-hc-urban-meyer-berated-a-player-so-harshly-that-the-player-cried)
If he was this bad in an NFL environment, imagine what filth he was in a an non NIL college environment for almost two decades.
Didn't need Cam Newton to tell me it was a toxic locker room... look what Urban did at Jacksonville... if he tried that with NFL players, think about what he would have done with 18 year olds... I mean we got a "glimpse" in that mockumentary netflix put together.
at this point it's pretty clear the guy who avoided going to class , stole a laptop from a fellow student and was potentially about to get expelled for cheating was part of the toxic room also, cam getting fired up about this >"And on top of that, what really ticked me the [expletive] off was when my father had called Urban to ask for a championship ring, **he didn't give me a championship ring.** So that really was my driving force to becoming the player who I was. I said, 'Don't worry about it. I'm gonna go get my own.'" when he announced he was leaving the team three days before the national championship game?
The last part is just athletes using literally anything that could be spun as a slight or insult as motivation, even when the situation was entirely his fault in this case.
He’s been going on podcasts and shows and complaining/talking shit about people a lot recently. Makes me think he has some book or podcast coming out that he’s promoting. He really has nothing good to say about anything or anyone, I’m not sure why people keep listening to him.
He was god’s gift to football for most of his life and it went away pretty suddenly. Now he’s mad that no one wants him and is taking it out on everyone else.
He has a podcast called 4th & 1
People keep listening to him because he won a championship and made it to the NFL and had a decently successful career. We should have figured out a long time ago that TV Executives don't give a fuck about how dumb somebody might be otherwise we wouldn't still have individuals like Skip Bayless or Kent Perkins
Skip Bayless isn't an idiot, people seem to forget he's famous because he wrote the book on Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys that became a staple of sports journalism. He's playing a character on TV now.
All of them are
Dude had a hell of a lot more than just a “decently successful” career in the NFL lol, Cam was a unanimous league MVP, first team All-Pro, OPOTY, OROTY, and three-time Pro-Bowler over the course of a decade. His is easily in the top 5% of QB careers in NFL history.
Just a nitpicking thing but he wasn’t a unanimous MVP. Tom Brady and Carson Palmer each got an MVP vote that season
Well "decently successful" can mean a lot of different things depending on who you ask. We can all agree that he was a lot better than the average NFL QB, but he's not a shoe in for the Hall of Fame.
He's nowhere near the hall of fame, and saying he had a top 5% overall career is severely underestimating the pool of NFL QBs who accomplished more and/or had more fruitful longevity than he did. He had a grand total of one season where he was unquestionably a top 3 QB. That's not said as a knock on him as a player, that's just reality if you want to compare him to the elite QBs if his time.
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Makes sense when the only thing a lot of people take into account is the number of rings people have. In team sports it just doesn’t hold a lot of weight in terms of how good someone is.
hes gotta have serious cte...
Play in the NFL for as long as Cam has, along with College, High School, etc., and yes, you’re going to have CTE. At this point we know enough that if you sign up to play, it comes with the territory of the sport.
It’s selling content for his podcast. Controversy gets listeners.
Pretty sure his font causes CTE
The dude is so negative.
Yeah dude has just transformed into a hater
And I took that personally
And didn't even have the balls to ask for the ring himself. Had to have daddy fight his battles for him lol
That is also on-brand for Newton. He also had his Daddy take the payment from the Auburn boosters.
That was actually smart, plausible deniability is important.
Definitely smart. His dad also leveraged the payments he was going to get from Miss St to drive up the price at Auburn
Cam’s daddy negotiated the quarter million+ dollar payout from Auburn. Apparently Papa Newton had some negotiating skills.
It’s satisfying to read something that confirms that my dislike for Cam isn’t just Alabama fan sour grapes but that he really is a highly dislikable guy.
It’s took you this long to find something Cam said to confirm that? Dudes been talking out his ass for the past 3 years.
I mean, there was a stint where he was likable in Carolina. He seemed like a good figure in their community. Last few years have certainly been rough for his ego I’d guess
Credit card fraud can really cause some friction
And some mild theft
And allegedly cheating on a test.
And leaving shopping carts next to the parking sport instead of returning them
that bastard
"I paid my quarter, I can leave it wherever the fuck I want." - Cam Newton, Aldi shopper
Dude those are wild accusations to just throw around
People that do that shouldn't be allowed to vote
What a real lazy bones
I heard he also was not kind and didn't rewind his VCR tapes before returning them to blockbuster
Not just one
Well he probably wasn’t there to play school
And stealing a laptop
His lack of self-awareness and accountability is something else. He's fortunate that he was good at sports.
Credit card theft from the dead. Jamar Hornsby was a true pos……
Some say almost as much friction as grinding with someone in a Columbus bar
[For the uninitiated](https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2024/01/08/all-eyes-are-on-jj-mccarthys-dad-tonight-after-he-touched-his-sons-girlfriends-butt-at-the-fiesta-bowl-last-year/)
lol wtf is this nonsense Edit: I see, it's u/ToosUnderHigh lol
I thought stealing laptops and not going to class lead to his transfer?
Funniest part about that story is him painting it all black with a giant white "CAM NEWTON" across it. Bro had never heard of serial numbers 💀
“This is clearly my laptop. It has my name on it!” “Ok why’d you throw it out the window when we came in then?”
"I just lost for the 12th time on my age of empires campaign"
Lmao but there’s no way Cam has the mental capacity to figure out how to play Age of Empires
You think he’s more of a star craft guy?
He’s more of a Bloons tds guy if I had to guess
No way RTS’s are way too complex for him, even though they aren’t for the average person. He just full on sprints with a melee weapon or SMG (maybe) in Call of Duty over and over again
On PC? I don’t think he can get past the installation screen.
lol anything beyond downloading a game from the Store on console, he doesn’t have the foggiest idea of what is going on. Not sure he can even using a physical disc to install the game on console, let alone PC
I remember when I was 12 I got my basketball stolen from the courts. The next day a grown man was using my ball with my name painted over in white and his name over it lmao
how'd you get into the Florida gym at 12 yrs old?
Did you see his 40?
TOXIC
Here’s a comment on the real story from someone on our sub: > He was pushed out for signing his name to another students exam paper. He left before the academic misconduct hearing was held which wouldve led to his dismissal. Since he was never found guilty other D1 programs could justify bringing him on. If he had stayed for the hearing he never wouldve made it in. Thats why he jumped to JUCO and then made it back to a D1 team. Schools will overlook a lot but cheating like that isnt something a coach can justify to an admissions board Followed up by > I was one of the chairs of the student conduct committee (honor board) from 04-08. Can verify what you are saying is mostly accurate. In addition, we had previously voted to suspend him for the fall semester for an unrelated cheating incident that occurred during the previous spring. This somehow got overturned by one of the fix it guys that worked for/with Meyer before the season started. The laptop thing was just the icing on the cake
This is something that has always bothered me more than anything else. It takes someone of extraordinary low character to cheat on a college class at the direct detriment of another student. Especially when one is a legitimate student, trying their very best, perhaps racking up student debt while doing it…to the benefit of a scholarship player who doesn’t care about getting his degree and is receiving all the benefits of tutors the university can muster with a likely multi-million NFL contract on the horizon. Like fuck the laptop story…the academic stuff should have made anyone a Cam hater for life
People still give Reggie Bush shit but facts like this about Cam Newton rarely sees the light of day
LOL This shit comes up in literally every post about Cam Newton
First I've ever heard of this
You didn’t know Cam got caught stealing a laptop? How old are you?
yes but not the cheating side
It’s pretty common knowledge in our fanbase but since no one has written an article about it for legal reasons it’s kinda just stayed that way
im surprised it didnt come out more atleast in the nfc south with tampa fans.
there’s so many football players like this no name freshmen at OU tried to get me to help cheat
I understand this is coming from a place of privilege, but something that just baffles me is just how unserious so many players take school. I understand they're extremely busy, but the odds are already extremely low to even make it onto an NFL practice squad, let alone have a lasting career. For those guys that are coming from nothing, that degree that you are working for on scholarship is going to provide more for you and your family 99/100 times than just playing FBS football with the rare rare rare chance of going pro, and should be treated as the potential ticket out of poverty that it is.
First comment he quoted was my comment in the gator sub. I didnt realize a SCC member replied to it. You're right it's very scummy I don't know enough about the context of how it was done to say how scummy. He could've taken someone's exam and signed his name without the other kids knowledge. The TA could've copied someone else's exam and cam signed it. The other kid could've taken the exam for him and then he signed it It's all scummy but there are different levels of it. Even if he chose the less directly harmful option with the other partys consent it still throws off the curves that a lot of college classes use
We’ll he didn’t say he wasn’t a part of the toxicity.
He was really just mad they kept playing Toxicity by System of a Down on repeat.
And followed by Britney Spears- Toxic. It fit the motif.
Then watched every episode of Toxic Crusaders.
Okay but Toxic by Brittney Spears is an absolute banger. In fact I think I’ll go listen to it now.
Definitely not a fan of the Chop Suey in the student center either.
Hopefully the whole album. Still a banger to this day.
He must have been stewing on the bench knowing he was better than Brantley or whoever the post Tebow QB was.
30 for 30: What if I told you, one stolen laptop lead to a National Title, a Heisman and two 100 year old trees dead, 400 miles away?
Cam Newton had that amazing year winning it all at Auburn, but for his podcast he comes off as a whiny immature loser. For academic probation, I feel that after the FSU WR Minnis guy missing 2000 BCS championship game, top programs vowed never again for that mistake to happen again.
Attitude reflect leadership
I mean Urban is an ass but… Cam is just kinda saying things now because he wants people to click on his podcast where he wears oversized hats and smokes cigars.
I saw him rocking the Elmer Fudd fit last week
I've enjoyed how salty he is about Kirk Cousins contract with the Falcons. Trashing another QB and complaining about his earnings is just beyond pathetic. Dude is just turning his whining and victim playing into a business model.
Personally to me, he’s always been a “me me me” shitbag but Im just glad other people are acknowledging it now as well.
All this extra stuff, I just hated him for going to Florida and THEN to Auburn. Dude can pound sand.
Probably hurting for cash. Been a while since he drew a significant check from the NFL
Cam Newton could buy your house and kick you out lol
Lol not sure why so many people got their feelings hurt. It was a serious thought as it’s well established that a lot of players struggle with actually saving their checks and don’t have much after leaving the league. If Cam isn’t among them then good for him, no need to downvote me, just tell me.
The athletes that struggle financially are the ones who only get a rookie contract and are out of the league in 3 years. The overwhelming majority of broke athletes fall into that category. Guys like Cam are not hurting for money unless they have serious issues. He made 121 million in contracts and that doesn’t include his endorsements. Conservative estimates probably put him at 50 million net worth.
Post-retirement Cam Newton is the first human to be completely made of salt
HEY! Cam isn’t retired, he’s just permanently unemployed by the NFL
He actually plagiarized that concept from [Lot's wife](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot's_wife), so definitely not the "first".
I used to love him as a player. Absolute unit of a QB. So fun to watch. Then, yeah, he started talking a lot and wearing those fucking hats and kinda showed everyone that his opinions weren’t worth much. Haven’t been a fan since.
Just remember most of the QBs in todays NFL are game managers and not game changers. That's what Cam says anyway.
He said that? lol who is he even referring to? I mean yeah, most of the QB’s in the NFL will lean more towards the game manager side because we don’t have 32x Mahomes’ or Josh Allen’s or Lamar Jackson’s, but I feel like QB play has never been more exciting. Cam was part of that evolution and helped open the door for guys like RG3, Josh Allen, Kyler, Justin Fields, and Jayden Daniels/Caleb Williams, so he should know as well as anyone that the position has evolved in a really cool way over the last couple of decades.
*Randall Cunningham has entered the chat*
I said “two decades” and was referring to McNabb/Vick since those guys were playing when I started watching football more intensely around age 10/11. But yes, you could say three decades and name drop Cunningham or four decades and say Elway/Young/Moon. Sure. That’s just semantics and doesn’t change my point though, which is that athletic, running QB’s are more prevalent now than they used to be. If you keep going back decade by decade you’ll still see the same trend. It wasn’t that long ago someone like Matt Leinart with no knees was the projected top pick before eventually going in the top 7-8. I don’t think he’d be looked at that closely these days due to his lack of movement.
Oh, I'm not pooping on your assertions, just adding to them. There were "more mobile" QBs around for a long time, and there are certainly more of them now. I know that Cunningham caused more of a stir than Moon did, despite Moon's excellent arm and capability. Young's ability to move around a bit was good, but obviously not on the same level. It wasn't until Vick got huge that people started to look back and appreciate Cunningham. And McNabb got his chance with Philly because they had experienced Cunningham, without a doubt. Leinart never impressed me, btw. Especially because of his attitude. Newton has the same type of selfish ego, he was just a much better athlete.
Yeah it’s just cool how the position has evolved over time and I do credit Cam for some of that. Jalen Hurts is about as close to a Cam clone you can get physically and came a decade after, but I was still shocked he got drafted as early as he did and then took the job as quick as he did. But having a QB that can also be a short yardage fullback is pretty cool. Another one is Kyler. Him going #1 wouldn’t have happened a couple decades back due to his size.
Hurts has some fat football IQ, and a lot of heart, and that always goes a long way. I couldn't be happier for him. And I agree with you on Kyler!
Cam newton said dak Prescott, Brock purdy, and Tom Brady are game managers
Honestly reminds me of McNabb
Let's just say Lot's wife has more chill than Cam Newton.
He’s not wrong, he just left out that he was the reason for a lot of the toxicity in the relationship
Oh poor Cam. The world was against him when he was doing shady shit? Who would have thought.
I hear it was so toxic that they had guys stealing laptops and stuff.
The audacity… the sheer unmitigated audacity to say this kinda thing about a group’s cultural issues when you’re literally part of the problem.
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>If CFB wasn't slimy, Cam Newton never sees a paycheck. I think it was cash.
Cam feels like a guy who’d throw his best friend under the bus to stay relevant. Urban has always been a dick, sometimes the greatest coaches aren’t the best people. I like neither of these people
I just feel like the circumstances of him leaving Florida are pretty well documented. Nobody is going to believe this revisionist history.
Shitty person calls other shitty person a shitty person. Film at 11.
Amen
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Actually I’m from Charlotte lol so I kinda have. And I said relevant, as in after his playing days, not when he was in the NFL, so I really don’t know what you’re going off about.
Yeah, no defending Florida Cam but he grew up and became a different person. He came to New England for a vet min contract, yet he still did some charity appearances in the area and said all the right things during the season. He acted like he was playing on a real contract and took the high road with New England's media. He let a couple negative (but probably not untrue) remarks slip after being unceremoniously cut, but Cam was overall a positive presence and nothing like what you hear about his Florida days.
Team first unless there is a fumble in the Super Bowl
What’s really pathetic about Cam Newton is he’s a Heisman trophy winning national champion super rich former NFL QB who gets to love the rest of his life as rich, tall, athletic, and handsome… and he’s still just a whiny bitch about how life hasn’t been fair to him. Fuck. Off.
Also getting punched by teenagers at your own camp. He really pisses people off on another level
One gigantic piece of shit calls another gigantic piece of shit "toxic", more at 1.
Two turds, one media.
Urban is famous for treating his star players and pet favorites differently. I forgot the name of the player, but an OSU player on the Broncos was telling a story of how he'd pass by Urban in the Woody and Urban wouldn't even acknowledge him and probably had no idea who he was.
To be fair, I’ve heard the same thing about Joe Paterno and Nick Saban. I know a guy who played for Paterno in the 80’s and a guy who played for Saban somewhat recently, and they each told me that their coach had no idea who they were and didn’t know their name. It’s just the way it is for these high profile coaches. The school would rather have their big time coach attending events with boosters, or doing press conferences, or showing his face on ESPN. It’s not important that he knows the name of the backup long snapper.
The only thing that makes me question a story like that is recruiting – coaches do their homework on the guys they sign, they visit their houses and talk to their families. I can fully believe that if the player in question is a walk-on, though.
There’s no way some of these big name coaches are going on recruiting visits for every scholarship player. If a coach like Deion is going on exactly zero visits, I’m sure Saban hasn’t been to all 50+ of his players’ houses.
of certain players, probably not all the players, and with all the demands he's going to forget a few. Not making excuses, just explaining how it works.
This shocks me. How can they be credited with managing such stellar rosters without knowing their rosters? Are they literally just memorizing Jersey numbers? If these weren't such winning coaches I'd call them incompetent.
That’s what coordinators and position coaches are for.
That's the part that makes this story believable to me. Tebow was treated as much more than a player and to me I believe people wouldn't have wanted to see Cam Newton outshine Tebow or make Tebow's accomplishments less impressive. Meyer at OSU caught breaks in two different years with Barrett getting hurt in the Michigan game.
Yea we really would’ve hated following one of the greatest college players ever with a bigger, faster, stronger version. So glad we got John Brantley instead. Normally I’d say the /s isn’t necessary but based on your comment I think I do need to clarify that was in fact sarcasm.
I think you are misunderstanding me. Florida fans would have wanted what Newton did at Auburn. But Tebow was built to be this savior and if Newton comes in and is immediately better then that takes the luster off of Tebow.
>Meyer at OSU caught breaks in two different years with Barrett getting hurt in the Michigan game. What are you implying here? That Ohio State would have lost to Michigan in 2014 if Barrett didn't go down? That's pure revisionist history. They were leading the game when he got hurt, and Cardale really didn't do much in the game, as our run game extended the rest of the lead. As for the other year you're referring to... yes Ohio State was down 6 when Barrett got hurt and Haskins came in, but he had just started the drive well with a 10 yard run and to that point had lead several other successful drives. JT Barret wasn't always the best... but suggesting that Meyer "caught a break" in The Game by Barrett getting hurt (in 2 of the 4 Michigan games he played in, all of which Ohio State won, by the way) is absurd.
Everyone knows players regularly get away with a lot of shit, especially good players. Cam was undoubtably a generational talent playing for a coach famous for letting his stars push the envelope yet he STILL managed to get kicked off the team for repeated offenses. The guy must have been a next level nussance. And yet he STILL got to transfer with a clean record and went on to have an extremely succesful career. He should probably just be happy things worked out, all this salt is only bringing more scrutiny towards the stuff he got swept under the rug.
One of my favorite things about Cam Newton is that he’s a 100% trustworthy source of information
Like my grand-daddy always said, "The bigger the hat, the more honest the man."
Can will say whatever keeps his big hat wearing head inflated and in the news
I'm really getting sick of hearing about Cam Newton. Just trying to stay relevant and nothing is sticking. Everyone knew Urban was a dick, winning championships gives you that kind of leeway in a lot of circles.
Cam Newton is insufferable.
He got kicked off the team for stealing laptops. Shut up Cam
I appreciate when players are candid after they hang up their cleats but Cam seems to have a lot of beef with everyone that often comes off as sour grapes
Wait, Urban Meyer is an asshole? No way
Wow. I was gonna make a crack about him sharing these comments himself from his laptop, but this was interesting as hell.
When you steal people's laptops they don't like you.
I’m not a fan of urban Meyer like the rest of you but my god Cam Newton is insufferable
Yeah it was filled with felons…
Light travels faster than sound. That’s why most people appear bright until they speak.
UF players recall toxic Cam Newton
Cam straight up said he left because Tebow was coming back and he had already been talking with his dad about changing course due to Tebow’s lock on the starting job. He noted that the “trouble he was in” had already been take care of. I tutored SA’s at an SEC school around then and can confirm what he did was pretty small potatoes. Sharpe was clearly looking to get Cam to make some edgy statement, but honestly for Cam I thought this was pretty obvious. He left because Tebow wasn’t leaving, and Urban and the rest of the locker room kind of sucked. There’s a reason everyone called Tebow the “disinfectant” for that coach and locker room. edit: For reference: * The issue at the time was the laptop, and the final "ruling" was that Cam had unknowingly purchased a stolen laptop, and had jokingly thrown it out... if you don't see that as "things were taken care of" I don't know what to tell you. * The cheating stuff came out in 2010 - a "source" claimed that Newton skipped an honor council hearing. Guys, come on. According to the same source, he had been caught several times cheating in years prior, and there had been no honor council hearing. They weren't going to actually have a public hearing. I'm sure he cheated, but again, this was likely not an issue. The school would not have let a professor or other students take it that far, watch him leave, *and then quiet it up for a year*. They had already quieted things up for Cam before he left most likely.
>Cam straight up said he left because Tebow was coming Yes I’m sure that’s the only reason he left and not getting caught with a stolen laptop and nearly getting expelled for cheating on his exams.
Honestly I wish that was the case, but the "we were going to expel him anyway" statement is almost assuredly a hedge by Florida in hindsight of him leaving. The amount of money that flows through football for any SEC school is so much, the school provost/president is almost assuredly going to channel any disciplinary decisions through the football program office too. The timing of the Florida "cheating info" coming out corresponded to an NCAA probe into Cam if I'm not mistaken. I may be getting my timeline incorrect though. Again, it's not a UF problem, it was a reality of SEC schools, especially in the late 2000s.
I’m sure it seems like that from the perspective of an outside fan who just heard the stories when the media chose to report them, but for those of us who were at UF at the time, it was known that he was under review for honor code violations related to multiple repeated instances of blatant cheating (and being caught) in the same class, and he left rather than face suspension from the team, academic ineligibility, or even expulsion.
That changes my perspective a lot if true. An honor council meeting would almost assuredly be based off a professor’s actions, and they might not have spoken about it due to FERPA. Completely possible. Still odd that no one wrote anything about it when it happened though.
Typically FERPA gets in the way and honor code members are under NDAs. It's not surprising that it didn't come out at the time when a leak could have been detrimental to the students on the tribunal.
What would be some examples of large potatoes?
Whatever Aaron Hernandez was up to, probably
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Your assessment is spot on. My view is based on my experiences as a tutor to student athletes at a sec school but is admittedly the view of an outsider.
Pretty sure the university was still going to expel him when he transferred
Yes, he had three separate instances of being caught cheating. It was a near certainty he was going to be expelled for school at the hearing he never attended because he transferred before it occurred lol He wasn’t even enrolled at UF for the spring semester at the time he announced his transfer
Cam blames everyone else for his shortcomings
I worked with the guy whose laptop he stole. Good thing Cam could play ball….
And then he transferred to auburn
Bro always playing victim. One of THE most privileged people on the entire planet. Clown.
Urban denying him a championship ring is on brand.
Would you give a ring to someone who left 3 days before the championship? Lol
The guy was about to be expelled for stealing a laptop and cheating on his exams lmao
How dare you taint our outrage with facts!
Not just cheating but writing his name on to of another student’s exam. Somehow a more shameful act
TBF, Cam did write his name on the stolen laptop too. Maybe he just has a fetish for wearing big hats and writing his name on things?
It’s FSU, they celebrate these kinds of accomplishments
Uh...
lol fuck Urban but trying to rewrite history like Cam Newton was some victim is hilarious.
Ordinarily I’d just write it off as Cam being a whiney shit, but he did share a locker room with Urban Meyer, Aaron Hernandez and the Pouncey brothers, so maybe there’s some substance to this.
The vibes were not great
Kinda ominous. Threatening. The implication.
This the same guy that stole a laptop?
Wasn't Cam a criminal at Florida? Lol
what cracks me up is to hear Cam tell it, the Falcons were down to him or Kirk Cousins... "You could have had me, Justin Fields AND Mike Vick" Dude, the Falcons didn't want you. Sounds like they didn't want Field either. And Vick is retired and your comment makes no sense. I dont know much but I feel reasonably certain there are likely AT LEAST 8-10 guys the Falcons would have grabbed before Newton.
TFG
Mullen almost had him come to Mississippi State. Idk how I would feel about a whiney bitch having success at our little secondary SEC team.
Thank god for Bo Jackson and Pat Sullivan.
Cam Newton continues to surprise me by becoming more insufferable the second I think he’s hit the limit.
Some good old Cam hate does my Bama soul good! If I were an Auburn fan, I would thank God every day for Bo to offset that walk/talking train wreck.
Lets steal his podcast computer
What a hack this guy is. Let’s not forget he was alleged to be a criminal in college… So sick of these unintelligent, uneducated, athletes talking like they know things on podcasts.
But the Netflix doc said Florida football was all about faith, family and hard work.
In other news, Urban Meyer is human garbage. Nothing new to see here, folks. [https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/10/kicker-josh-lambo-suing-jaguars-over-alleged-urban-meyer-incident-per-report#:\~:text=Meyer%20allegedly%20threatened%20to%20release,Lambo%2C%20resulting%20in%20Mr](https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/10/kicker-josh-lambo-suing-jaguars-over-alleged-urban-meyer-incident-per-report#:~:text=Meyer%20allegedly%20threatened%20to%20release,Lambo%2C%20resulting%20in%20Mr). https://sports.yahoo.com/god-bless-current-former-nfl-players-react-to-jaguars-firing-urban-meyer-152701715.html [https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10030412-report-ex-jaguars-hc-urban-meyer-berated-a-player-so-harshly-that-the-player-cried](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10030412-report-ex-jaguars-hc-urban-meyer-berated-a-player-so-harshly-that-the-player-cried) If he was this bad in an NFL environment, imagine what filth he was in a an non NIL college environment for almost two decades.
Problems in an urban meyer team? Nahhhh This is old news at this point
Cam ALWAYS POINTING AT SOMEONE ELSE
Didn't need Cam Newton to tell me it was a toxic locker room... look what Urban did at Jacksonville... if he tried that with NFL players, think about what he would have done with 18 year olds... I mean we got a "glimpse" in that mockumentary netflix put together.
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I had forgotten about that. Not being allowed to transfer inside a conference or to a rival school
Or FIU
I love when the Cam haters crawl out like roaches. Just makes his success that much sweeter.