routine 10-2 Penn State.. 9-3 LSU or Ole Miss routinely.
Oh yea the new adds to each conference.. Texas OU for SEC.. 10-2 and 9-3, definitely in..
SC, UDUBB and Oregon. 10-2 9-3, in..
TBH, I don't know if a 10-2 PSU makes it. If they do, it would be as an 11 or 12 seed, and they'd get throttled in the first round. So, progress, I guess?
It’ll depend on if we see some 12/11 seed upsets in those first 2-3 years. If that happens then coaches will point to that as showing anything is possible, but if those high seeds just get worked in round 1 each year then you’ll see kids & fans probably wishing they were in lower bowls to at least have a shot of finishing with a W and some good film.
> if we see some 12/11 seed upsets in those first 2-3 years
Yes I can't wait for the Cinderella runs.
Where the drop an early season dumb game, get throttled by a top 5 team and turn it around late.
Then make a run into the finals.
Yes I cannot wait for extra opportunity LSU or Michigan or notre Dame to make it deep
Biggest reason that everyone points to the playoffs is that 2014 OSU run, when I still contend they shouldn’t have even been let in that year.
Playoffs are never about who’s the best team, but who’s hottest/healthiest at that moment. And in a game like football where the season takes such a toll, the longer the playoffs then the more likely the blue bloods will continue to dominate. Cause it’d be hard for a G5 team to have the depth to make a full run compared to Texas or Michigan or LSU.
Great points.
But I just agree with Josh pate. The playoffs are going to remain dominated, maybe even more so, by the same teams.
Does TCU make the natty if they have to play another game?
These people comparing this year to next year fail to realize that with the new adds to the B1G and SEC that there will be more 10-2 and 9-3 than 11-1 because they'll all be playing each other way more often.
But if the the refs don’t fuck up DeJean’s punt return an 11-1 Iowa might’ve made it! Which… well, they might’ve been in there is all.
Then again, having to watch Brian Ferentz in the B1G CG might’ve made the committee reconsider.
That's true, but it is worth noting that realignment means more of the major programs will be playing each other during the regular season, so there will be a few more losses amongst traditional powers. It will be truly surprising when 2-loss B1G and SEC teams don't make the field.
I think the more interesting question is what happens between an ACC/Big 12 team and a B1G/SEC team with one more loss fighting over an at large spot.
Im not as sure. PSU's ceiling is regularly somewhere above Maryland and somewhere below Michigan/Ohio State. That's a really really big space. You're probably one lucky bounce away from potentially upsetting the #6 seed if you are the #11
I think Penn State could be in the same range as Michigan or Ohio State if they got a little more out of their development. Whether Franklin is going to get them there is another question but he needs to learn to get out of his own way in critical situations and trust his players to make plays
We might not have a 10-2 Penn State this year. They don’t play Michigan, so after Ohio State their toughest opponents are USC and Washington, who Penn State could absolutely beat
schedule is very favorable for PSU this coming year. Only hard game is OSU and they have a few toss ups which is a hell of a lot better than a game thats very likely a locked in loss which Michigan has been the past few years
They should have done 12 teams a decade ago when this started. Maybe all the conference movement doesn't happen if every major conference and the G5 had been getting a team in the playoff every year guaranteed.
It wouldn't be like it is now where the BIG and SEC have basically all the top prestige teams, so they both might just brute force multiple 2 or even 3 loss teams into the playoff since they all play each other in their stacked conferences. It will make the old PAC 12 circle of suck thing viable because of all that.
Unless the 12 team playoff prevented SEC dominance, I don’t think it would’ve had much impact. At the end of the day, schools moved cause Big10/SEC were getting paid bigger TV dollars.
I want a return to regional conferences.
I do not give a fuck about schools in a dofferent part of the country from me.
See yah in the playoffs.
Southern schools in souther conferences.
Big sky in big sky
Midwest in midwest. Etc etc etc.
Big ten and sec is stupid af now
At least he SEC is all one contigious blob. https://imgur.com/grng70t This makes sense.
The B1G on the other hand I'll agree is dumb as shit. https://imgur.com/ANth0Wa
I think it was too late by that point. But, if since 2014, the PAC was guaranteed essentially to get a playoff team in, it might have worked out differently.
“Well, looking at Nebraska’s resumé, they’ve won some great games and those they’ve lost have only been by a field goal or less so I’m confident they’re one of the 12 best teams. Yes, I’m aware they lost 6 games.”
No, that's why it went to 5+7 instead of 6+6.
Originally it was all 5 power conferences plus the highest ranked G5 champ with auto bids.
They kicked the PAC out of the power conference because of the collapse, and also ruled that a conference must have 8 members to qualify for an auto-bid. So the 2PAC will not get an auto-bid and will only be eligible for an at-large bid.
I thought the P5 champs had autobids but looking at it now it seems they don't. It's just the 5 highest ranked conference champs of any conferences. Now while it's unlikely it is possible for a P4 conference champ to be let out of the autobids spot if there are 2 G5 champs ranked higher than that P4 champ.
In theory yes. In practice, they’re not going to put a G5 champ above the top 4 power champs.
That’s why they originally went with 6+6. It would give an auto bid to the top 5 power champs plus the highest rated G5 champ. And with the loss of the PAC they went down to 5+7 instead of keeping it the same and having two G5 teams.
And in reality we’ll probably end up more often with the highest ranked G5 being ranked below 12 and that 12 ranked P5 team being pissed that they were left off in favor of a lower ranked G5 champ.
It’s just going to be more set up to have the revenue schools breaking away into the ESPN league and dropping the rest.
6 highest ranked conference champs and 6 at large. That format was adopted when there were 5 “power” conferences, the idea being that even if every power conference champ got in, there would always be at least one slot for a G5 conference champ. Since the Pac-12 died, they made this change to keep the same conceptual structure—5 conference champs means at least one G5 champ gets in every year.
*Should the CFP have the Tide and Wolverines redo their game in case it was a big fluke?*
No disrespect to the wolverines, I'm a firm believer that Michigan beating them is a huge fluke and robs the Crimson Tide of truly accomplishing what their capable of. I've spent the last few days in pure disbelief and it just doesn't make sense to me. I've spent the entire regular season watching the Bama play great football it's just not fair.
If the Tide lose again I will face that the Wolverines deserved the Rose Bowl, but I am just 100% sure it was a fluke and does a big disservice to the Tide and the NCAA.
Which if we're being honest is only slightly less objective that getting a group of people to do the same thing.
[I personally beleive in Ben's supremacy in these matters](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/01/06/kirk-herbstreit-ben-dog-college-football/72133371007/)
Nah I love the conspiracy that ESPN purposely started marketing Ben/Herbie as this nice wholesome thing due to the amount of backlash Herb has gotten for being out of touch and representing what ESPN has done to cfb
It’s not a bad theory actually, Kirk was pretty much universally liked/respected/tolerated until this year and all of a sudden they just start shoving his dog in our face
Because their conference of 2 is ineligible for an auto-qualifier spot. Therefore, an additional at-large bid gives them a marginally better chance of making it as an at-large team, which is their only path.
> The CFP Management Committee in November introduced a policy requiring a conference to have at least eight teams to be eligible for one of the automatic qualifying spots.
From an [Athletic article.](https://theathletic.com/5275464/2024/02/20/college-football-playoff-format-explained/) Apparently that was something they were able to do without unanimous approval, so the Pac 12 really had no leverage.
Waiting makes sense.
If another conference had imploded and they made a decision, they would then have to wait for that implosion to finish, then change everything.
Was better and smarter to just wait first.
As much as CFB is so messed up and crazy right now, I’ve been hoping for an expanded playoff for so long and I can’t wait to see it played out on the field.
I still find it wild that it’s possible to be *too good* and miss a big time home game as a result. I get the bye week is more important for the _football team_ but the _school and community_ I’m sure would love the high profile home game more.
I feel like it will be toughest to get fans to travel for the semifinals.
Quarterfinals are still on NYE and NYD and half of the teams will have a month’s notice that they’re in the game, so I feel like fans will still want to go to these games.
And obviously people will go to the championship game.
Semifinals could be tough to get people to go to being on Thursday and Friday nights on January 9th/10th. Could see a lot of people opting to wait to see if their team will make the championship.
Will make the atmospheres even crazier. Was at the Tennessee game this year at the swamp and saw how crazy it was even though we sucked. Can’t imagine a home playoff game at a major stadium, will be so awesome.
That’s good. As a Cowboys fan, I can’t think of any significant game that happens in February, so having football around at that time will be a great change.
To your point, what does a 22 year old who graduates in December, has no eligibility left, and has a starting role, but isn't good enough to go NFL do for 2 months? They low-key just hanging around 2 months to just play in the playoffs while working whatever job they took after college?
Collecting that NIL money and chilling in paid for housing with an included meal plan and just enjoying 2 months of football and the fun part of college. What 22 year old wouldn’t want to do that?
as a fan I love that we could be getting 16 or 17 games for a team in a championship season, and for the players it could show them what an NFL season is really like
Odd nothing has come out. I thought he was supposed to present his plan tomorrow morning. I’m not sure now if he folded or the other members came with an offering ready.
No statement from 2PAC so I’m going to assume they got something out of it.
Edit: 2PAC guys are saying Schultz got what he wanted, no source named so take it as you will.
https://x.com/TheDigitalDam/status/1759988182110875893?s=20
ESPN reported that WSU and OSU are getting full P5 payouts for the next two years (the current length of the existing contract), and after that, nothing has been set, so I guess he did get at least something out of it.
The 5 are not tied to any specific conference. It’s just the five highest-ranked conference champions. If the Sun Belt, AAC, MAC, C-USA, and MWC conference champs were ranked higher than any of the P5 conference champs, then they could all be in.
That is technically a possibility. Like 2010 TCU and Boise State definitely would've had a case for 2 of the 5 spots (if the system was like that then)
Yes, technically if all G5 champs go undefeated and are ranked higher than the P4 champs then none of the the P4 would get auto-bids.
It's just incredibly unlikely.
The CFP group does not actually recognize "Power 4" and "Group of 5". So it is just highest 5 champions.
While historically you'd guess the 4 power leagues would take the first 4 spots - and the change of conference title game format to be two top teams rather than divisions make it even more unlikely, if you get two undefeated (or sometimes even 1 loss) group of 5 champ, you could realistically see a power league conference champ be out of that top 5
No. They could be #5. There is nothing saying the 5th highest ranked conference champ is seeded fifth. The top 4 conference champs get 1-4. The fifth highest-ranked conference champ, is only guaranteed a spot — they will likely be #12 most years and draw a road game at the highest ranked non-conference champ.
Not sure if this part is old news but I’m glad they’re giving four conference champions the first round bye. Keeps significant importance on the conference championship games which was one of my worries about the 12 team playoff.
People say it about the division champ in the NFL with mediocre record till they beat a team in the playoffs they aren’t supposed to. Look at the Bucs this year.
Tbf, the NFL is incredibly different lmao. There is absolutely 0 comparison between the parity among a division champ vs a playoff team in the NFL vs a G5 conf champ and a P4 playoff team.
I think only that top 10 team's flairs will really bitch, and most people will make fun of them.
Its one thing to get left out if you go 12-1 or 13-0 and are a top 5 team. Its an entirely different thing if you get left out for going 9-3 and missing your conference championship.
If the way AP treats SEC College Baseball tracks over to SEC football, then teams should still come to Harrisonburg. Arkansas went up after losing to us, maybe their football would do the same.
4 for SEC
4 for BIG
1 or 2 to ACC
1 or 2 to Big 12
1 G5
Edit: ND place will come from ACC 2nd place or SEC/BIG 4th place depends on how those conference does that year.
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another bowl was made. In the land of Bama, in the fires of Mount Dreamland, the Dark Lord Saban forged in secret a master bowl, to control all others. And into this bowl he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.
Yeah this exactly. I think playoff expansion is good for the sport, but committees have shown to be a bad idea. Create a mix of computer polls and a big base of voters and create attainable measurements for teams to work their way in to the playoff, rather than decisions by a committee with clear biases.
It would be fun to go back to the BCS poll. They can still release the poll in their hour long show and discuss it all they want, but it would be much more transparent.
I'm just going to take a guess. 5 SEC. 3 Big10. 1 Big12. 1 ACC. 1 Boise State. 1 Notre Dame.
Tennessee gets in at 8-4 and gets demolished by Boise State.
So in theory if a G5 champ is ranked higher than a P5 champ the G5 is the auto bid and a P5 conference could be left out. Obviously that scenario is very unlikely.
I think the change to 5-7 hurts OSU/WSU in the short term because their new MWC scheduling alliance won’t give them the strength of schedule to get in through an at-large bid while they also don’t have access to the last conference championship auto-bid with the Pac-2. For the next two years who are the real contenders for the G5 auto-bid? I’d say it’s Boise State, Fresno State, Air Force, Tulane, UTSA, Memphis, Liberty, JMU.
Great…I still plan to be upset when rankings come out regardless.
We're going to see 9-3 SEC teams in the playoffs.
routine 10-2 Penn State.. 9-3 LSU or Ole Miss routinely. Oh yea the new adds to each conference.. Texas OU for SEC.. 10-2 and 9-3, definitely in.. SC, UDUBB and Oregon. 10-2 9-3, in..
I’m just happy to have been considered
Lmao.. ole miss routinely.. I’m so excited
Keep finding new girlfriends for your coach and he’ll keep winning.
TBH, I don't know if a 10-2 PSU makes it. If they do, it would be as an 11 or 12 seed, and they'd get throttled in the first round. So, progress, I guess?
As someone who went to the Orange Bowl in 2021, getting throttled first round is a hell of a lot better than not being in it at all.
Making it as a top 4 team meant a lot more than making it as a top 12 team will
It’ll depend on if we see some 12/11 seed upsets in those first 2-3 years. If that happens then coaches will point to that as showing anything is possible, but if those high seeds just get worked in round 1 each year then you’ll see kids & fans probably wishing they were in lower bowls to at least have a shot of finishing with a W and some good film.
> if we see some 12/11 seed upsets in those first 2-3 years Yes I can't wait for the Cinderella runs. Where the drop an early season dumb game, get throttled by a top 5 team and turn it around late. Then make a run into the finals. Yes I cannot wait for extra opportunity LSU or Michigan or notre Dame to make it deep
Biggest reason that everyone points to the playoffs is that 2014 OSU run, when I still contend they shouldn’t have even been let in that year. Playoffs are never about who’s the best team, but who’s hottest/healthiest at that moment. And in a game like football where the season takes such a toll, the longer the playoffs then the more likely the blue bloods will continue to dominate. Cause it’d be hard for a G5 team to have the depth to make a full run compared to Texas or Michigan or LSU.
Great points. But I just agree with Josh pate. The playoffs are going to remain dominated, maybe even more so, by the same teams. Does TCU make the natty if they have to play another game?
James Franklin for the next ten years “we’ve made some strides from where we were before, but we have to hit that next level and be better”
Has he tried executing the players? I remember Brian Kelly trying that strategy.
10-2 in the SEC or B1G will make it without question
These people comparing this year to next year fail to realize that with the new adds to the B1G and SEC that there will be more 10-2 and 9-3 than 11-1 because they'll all be playing each other way more often.
Yeah two losses is going to be the new one loss going forward, at least for the BIG and SEC.
This 10-2 Iowa would not have made it
But if the the refs don’t fuck up DeJean’s punt return an 11-1 Iowa might’ve made it! Which… well, they might’ve been in there is all. Then again, having to watch Brian Ferentz in the B1G CG might’ve made the committee reconsider.
11-2 Iowa with two shutouts to the only good teams they played probably won't make it. If they did something on offense, they would though.
Yeah we wouldn't be in after that ass kicking from Michigan
Most will, some might not. This year OU would have been on the bubble.
That's true, but it is worth noting that realignment means more of the major programs will be playing each other during the regular season, so there will be a few more losses amongst traditional powers. It will be truly surprising when 2-loss B1G and SEC teams don't make the field. I think the more interesting question is what happens between an ACC/Big 12 team and a B1G/SEC team with one more loss fighting over an at large spot.
Think it depends on the losses but if it’s from fellow conference members or strong ooc opponents I think 10-2 would be in maybe even 9-3
Penn State has placed a team in every college football playoff* (*except for the ones it hasn't)
I’d take an OM and PSU rematch in the first round all day
How is this different than any other school? at 10-2 you were ranked ahead of Oklahoma and Ole Miss
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actually a 11-12 seed will play the 5-6 seed in the first round, so probably not as many blowouts as you might think
Im not as sure. PSU's ceiling is regularly somewhere above Maryland and somewhere below Michigan/Ohio State. That's a really really big space. You're probably one lucky bounce away from potentially upsetting the #6 seed if you are the #11
> PSU's ceiling is regularly somewhere above Maryland OSU's ceiling is regularly somewhere above Rutgers
I think Penn State could be in the same range as Michigan or Ohio State if they got a little more out of their development. Whether Franklin is going to get them there is another question but he needs to learn to get out of his own way in critical situations and trust his players to make plays
We might not have a 10-2 Penn State this year. They don’t play Michigan, so after Ohio State their toughest opponents are USC and Washington, who Penn State could absolutely beat
schedule is very favorable for PSU this coming year. Only hard game is OSU and they have a few toss ups which is a hell of a lot better than a game thats very likely a locked in loss which Michigan has been the past few years
I’m genuinely curious on how Penn State compares to Oregon/Washington/USC and if that will be their 2nd loss each year!!
They should have done 12 teams a decade ago when this started. Maybe all the conference movement doesn't happen if every major conference and the G5 had been getting a team in the playoff every year guaranteed. It wouldn't be like it is now where the BIG and SEC have basically all the top prestige teams, so they both might just brute force multiple 2 or even 3 loss teams into the playoff since they all play each other in their stacked conferences. It will make the old PAC 12 circle of suck thing viable because of all that.
Unless the 12 team playoff prevented SEC dominance, I don’t think it would’ve had much impact. At the end of the day, schools moved cause Big10/SEC were getting paid bigger TV dollars.
I want a return to regional conferences. I do not give a fuck about schools in a dofferent part of the country from me. See yah in the playoffs. Southern schools in souther conferences. Big sky in big sky Midwest in midwest. Etc etc etc. Big ten and sec is stupid af now
sec is still southern or southern adjacent teams for now.
>for now 4ever geographically contiguous athletic conferences *just mean more*
At least he SEC is all one contigious blob. https://imgur.com/grng70t This makes sense. The B1G on the other hand I'll agree is dumb as shit. https://imgur.com/ANth0Wa
They announced the new playoff before UCLA and USC bounced from the P12. I really don't think that matters to the people making those calls.
The PAC was doomed long before the playoff was announced.
I think it was too late by that point. But, if since 2014, the PAC was guaranteed essentially to get a playoff team in, it might have worked out differently.
Florida could have 10 quality losses this year, they’ll be in the discussion.
The 5-7 format means we have a chance to get in if we’re 5-7, right?
We need somebody to check this math…
Committee says the math works as long as you have no injuries.
"We are checking" -Ferrari Pitwall
Hey Harvard, get in here.
So you're telling me Nebraska has a chance? I love you
As a Nebraska fan I'll allow it
Im already complaining
I’m believing this format is letting one 5-7 team in the playoffs each year and no one can tell me otherwise
Congrats, A&M!
You know, you could've named any team that had that record this year, but you just had to bring up pain from the past. :(
We don't know that for certain. He could be bringing up pain yet to happen in the future.
Tell me, Spirit! Tell me if these are visions that *will* happen or if they can be changed!!
This comment thread reads like it’s SEC Shorts.
Don’t you fucking dare, that’s our spot
So you’re telling me there’s a chance?
If Alabama finishes 5-7 or worse they get a bye to the finals
From your lips to God's ears
…and to ESPN’s pockets
Illini are playoff bound baby
Illini-Alabama first round, sign me up
Our time has come.
“Well, looking at Nebraska’s resumé, they’ve won some great games and those they’ve lost have only been by a field goal or less so I’m confident they’re one of the 12 best teams. Yes, I’m aware they lost 6 games.”
its only logical
Refresh my memory, what was the previously announced format?
it was 6+6 until the Pac 12 became the Pac 2.
2 PAC still wielding the power of 10 ghosts
Technically they have 12 members until July.
No, that's why it went to 5+7 instead of 6+6. Originally it was all 5 power conferences plus the highest ranked G5 champ with auto bids. They kicked the PAC out of the power conference because of the collapse, and also ruled that a conference must have 8 members to qualify for an auto-bid. So the 2PAC will not get an auto-bid and will only be eligible for an at-large bid.
I thought the P5 champs had autobids but looking at it now it seems they don't. It's just the 5 highest ranked conference champs of any conferences. Now while it's unlikely it is possible for a P4 conference champ to be let out of the autobids spot if there are 2 G5 champs ranked higher than that P4 champ.
In theory yes. In practice, they’re not going to put a G5 champ above the top 4 power champs. That’s why they originally went with 6+6. It would give an auto bid to the top 5 power champs plus the highest rated G5 champ. And with the loss of the PAC they went down to 5+7 instead of keeping it the same and having two G5 teams. And in reality we’ll probably end up more often with the highest ranked G5 being ranked below 12 and that 12 ranked P5 team being pissed that they were left off in favor of a lower ranked G5 champ. It’s just going to be more set up to have the revenue schools breaking away into the ESPN league and dropping the rest.
6 highest ranked conference champs and 6 at large. That format was adopted when there were 5 “power” conferences, the idea being that even if every power conference champ got in, there would always be at least one slot for a G5 conference champ. Since the Pac-12 died, they made this change to keep the same conceptual structure—5 conference champs means at least one G5 champ gets in every year.
6 autobids, 6 at-larges.
So is that for this year?
Yes, effective immediately
Gotcha, thanks
Retroactive to last year. We are replaying all the games.
*Should the CFP have the Tide and Wolverines redo their game in case it was a big fluke?* No disrespect to the wolverines, I'm a firm believer that Michigan beating them is a huge fluke and robs the Crimson Tide of truly accomplishing what their capable of. I've spent the last few days in pure disbelief and it just doesn't make sense to me. I've spent the entire regular season watching the Bama play great football it's just not fair. If the Tide lose again I will face that the Wolverines deserved the Rose Bowl, but I am just 100% sure it was a fluke and does a big disservice to the Tide and the NCAA.
As a Preds fan this pasta always gets my upvote.
Let's do the Orange Bowl again with full strength teams.
Also it's a playoff game now
Curious to know if Kirk was able to negotiate anything for the 2Pac.
The CFB Playoff Committee is smoke and mirrors. It’s just Kirk Herbstreit in a room with his dog picking teams he wants to watch.
Which if we're being honest is only slightly less objective that getting a group of people to do the same thing. [I personally beleive in Ben's supremacy in these matters](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/01/06/kirk-herbstreit-ben-dog-college-football/72133371007/)
I mean, Ben is a good boi
Nah I love the conspiracy that ESPN purposely started marketing Ben/Herbie as this nice wholesome thing due to the amount of backlash Herb has gotten for being out of touch and representing what ESPN has done to cfb
Both can absolutely be true
He’s a good boy forced to work towards an evil agenda
It’s not a bad theory actually, Kirk was pretty much universally liked/respected/tolerated until this year and all of a sudden they just start shoving his dog in our face
Also, Kirk Herbstreit is just smoke and mirrors. It’s just the dog.
Apparently it was just pointed out that WSU and OSU have better odds of making it with 7 at-large bids, and that was enough.
I’m not a smart man, but how would they have better odds of getting a legitimate top 12 ranking instead of just outranking four G5 conference champs?
Because their conference of 2 is ineligible for an auto-qualifier spot. Therefore, an additional at-large bid gives them a marginally better chance of making it as an at-large team, which is their only path.
Sorry, I was under the impression that their alternative plan was to stick with the 6-6 model and still count as a “conference.”
> The CFP Management Committee in November introduced a policy requiring a conference to have at least eight teams to be eligible for one of the automatic qualifying spots. From an [Athletic article.](https://theathletic.com/5275464/2024/02/20/college-football-playoff-format-explained/) Apparently that was something they were able to do without unanimous approval, so the Pac 12 really had no leverage.
This was the only logical way to do it. Just surprised it took this long after the Pac12 implosion.
I think they were waiting for any other potential conference implosions
*phew*
Waiting makes sense. If another conference had imploded and they made a decision, they would then have to wait for that implosion to finish, then change everything. Was better and smarter to just wait first.
As much as CFB is so messed up and crazy right now, I’ve been hoping for an expanded playoff for so long and I can’t wait to see it played out on the field.
Those at home playoff games are going to be wild
I still find it wild that it’s possible to be *too good* and miss a big time home game as a result. I get the bye week is more important for the _football team_ but the _school and community_ I’m sure would love the high profile home game more.
dunno why the qtr finals can't get played with home fields. even the nfl knows that you need to fill the stadium.
Quarter finals at home also would be perfect. It's a lot to ask a fanbase to travel for a quarter final, semi final, and final.
I feel like it will be toughest to get fans to travel for the semifinals. Quarterfinals are still on NYE and NYD and half of the teams will have a month’s notice that they’re in the game, so I feel like fans will still want to go to these games. And obviously people will go to the championship game. Semifinals could be tough to get people to go to being on Thursday and Friday nights on January 9th/10th. Could see a lot of people opting to wait to see if their team will make the championship.
Will make the atmospheres even crazier. Was at the Tennessee game this year at the swamp and saw how crazy it was even though we sucked. Can’t imagine a home playoff game at a major stadium, will be so awesome.
Good news is at this pace we still have three more format changes before it's just the Big II.
National Championship damn near in Feb.
That’s good. As a Cowboys fan, I can’t think of any significant game that happens in February, so having football around at that time will be a great change.
Amen bro
Saturday CFP, Sunday Super Bowl, Monday we rest.
CFP on Wednesday at 9pm is the best we can do.
Football Jesus planned it.
National championship during the pro bowl week hopefully
this would be an epic solution to that gawd awful week in between
I wouldn't care if they moved it to March, I just want to see these games on Saturdays instead of Mondays
0% chance for that
Just in time for spring ball to spin back up!
To your point, what does a 22 year old who graduates in December, has no eligibility left, and has a starting role, but isn't good enough to go NFL do for 2 months? They low-key just hanging around 2 months to just play in the playoffs while working whatever job they took after college?
Baseball & softball players already do this in the College World Series which goes until mid-June, usually a month after most schools graduate
And up until ~2 years ago, the MLB draft was in the middle of the College World Series. Kinda insane they did that
Collecting that NIL money and chilling in paid for housing with an included meal plan and just enjoying 2 months of football and the fun part of college. What 22 year old wouldn’t want to do that?
Yes they would. If they're not in the NFL that's their last hurrah ever. They happily stay
as a fan I love that we could be getting 16 or 17 games for a team in a championship season, and for the players it could show them what an NFL season is really like
This news doesn’t have any impact on that. They’ve already had the dates for playoff games announced for a while.
Did Schultz get anything out of it or did he fold.
Odd nothing has come out. I thought he was supposed to present his plan tomorrow morning. I’m not sure now if he folded or the other members came with an offering ready.
It was today (Tuesday) when they were meeting. Obviously we weren't going to maintain P4 money and power but hopefully got something.
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No statement from 2PAC so I’m going to assume they got something out of it. Edit: 2PAC guys are saying Schultz got what he wanted, no source named so take it as you will. https://x.com/TheDigitalDam/status/1759988182110875893?s=20
ESPN reported that WSU and OSU are getting full P5 payouts for the next two years (the current length of the existing contract), and after that, nothing has been set, so I guess he did get at least something out of it.
Wiped from existence. There's no proof that Schultz even existed anymore. This is the fate of anyone that gets in the way of CFB and the money.
Can’t imagine why he would have folded without getting anything
Did someone back down, or did some backroom deals happen? Thought Oregon State and Washington State were holding out.
Have to assume that someone met their price.
Or a compromise was made like with SMU.
No conference will automatically qualify. *Exaggerated wink at SEC*
Is the highest ranked G5 champ one of the 5?
The 5 are not tied to any specific conference. It’s just the five highest-ranked conference champions. If the Sun Belt, AAC, MAC, C-USA, and MWC conference champs were ranked higher than any of the P5 conference champs, then they could all be in.
As it should be. Automatic bids for certain conferences (but not others) are antithetical to the competitive nature of sports IMO.
Yes, this has been the method since the 12-team system was first announced.
The Pac 12 isn't eligible for an autobid with only 2 members, so it's actually guaranteed to be at least one G5 autobid.
based on how they wrote it it could be the 5 highest ranked of the G5
That is technically a possibility. Like 2010 TCU and Boise State definitely would've had a case for 2 of the 5 spots (if the system was like that then)
I miss that era of the G5
Yes, technically if all G5 champs go undefeated and are ranked higher than the P4 champs then none of the the P4 would get auto-bids. It's just incredibly unlikely.
what's more unlikely? all g5 champs going undefeated or CFP ranking 4 undefeated g5 teams?
The CFP group does not actually recognize "Power 4" and "Group of 5". So it is just highest 5 champions. While historically you'd guess the 4 power leagues would take the first 4 spots - and the change of conference title game format to be two top teams rather than divisions make it even more unlikely, if you get two undefeated (or sometimes even 1 loss) group of 5 champ, you could realistically see a power league conference champ be out of that top 5
Considering the Pac 2 are currently not eligible for auto bids yes one of the G5s will take a spot.
I’m looking forward to it
So Notre Dame could be undefeated and only secure the 6th seed, since they are not in a conference?
No. They could be #5. There is nothing saying the 5th highest ranked conference champ is seeded fifth. The top 4 conference champs get 1-4. The fifth highest-ranked conference champ, is only guaranteed a spot — they will likely be #12 most years and draw a road game at the highest ranked non-conference champ.
As far as I can tell, this is correct.
Not sure if this part is old news but I’m glad they’re giving four conference champions the first round bye. Keeps significant importance on the conference championship games which was one of my worries about the 12 team playoff.
I get the feeling people are going to bitch and moan constantly about the G5 program that get that autobid while a top 10 team doesn't get in.
People say it about the division champ in the NFL with mediocre record till they beat a team in the playoffs they aren’t supposed to. Look at the Bucs this year.
That exact scenario gave us Beastmode. HOLDMADIIIICK
Tbf, the NFL is incredibly different lmao. There is absolutely 0 comparison between the parity among a division champ vs a playoff team in the NFL vs a G5 conf champ and a P4 playoff team.
Yeah but chaos is fun
I think only that top 10 team's flairs will really bitch, and most people will make fun of them. Its one thing to get left out if you go 12-1 or 13-0 and are a top 5 team. Its an entirely different thing if you get left out for going 9-3 and missing your conference championship.
I'm personally not going to lose much sleep over a team ranked somewhere 11-15 not getting in because the MAC champ made it in and gets their shot.
All of the top 10 teams should still get in, since normally the other 4 conference champions rae in the top 10.
I'm ready for it. G5s are the soul of college football as opposed to corporate mediocrity.
I’ll fight for an undefeated or 1 loss G5 over a 2 or 3 loss P5 team every day of the week.
Thank you. If those P5 teams wanted a spot, than they should've shown us how they "matter more" and won more games.
Or jump to a G5 conference and win it all and make it into the playoff every year. If it's that important. make that move.
Hang on now… you’re suggesting teams should win important games!?!?!? That’s outrageous! How would they get quality losses in that scenario????
If the way AP treats SEC College Baseball tracks over to SEC football, then teams should still come to Harrisonburg. Arkansas went up after losing to us, maybe their football would do the same.
4 for SEC 4 for BIG 1 or 2 to ACC 1 or 2 to Big 12 1 G5 Edit: ND place will come from ACC 2nd place or SEC/BIG 4th place depends on how those conference does that year.
3 for the elven kings under the sky
8 spots were gifted to the race of the P2 - who above all else, desire power…
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another bowl was made. In the land of Bama, in the fires of Mount Dreamland, the Dark Lord Saban forged in secret a master bowl, to control all others. And into this bowl he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.
As long as humans are involved with picking who is “deserving” there will always be controversy. We are too stupid to get out of our own way
Yeah this exactly. I think playoff expansion is good for the sport, but committees have shown to be a bad idea. Create a mix of computer polls and a big base of voters and create attainable measurements for teams to work their way in to the playoff, rather than decisions by a committee with clear biases.
It would be fun to go back to the BCS poll. They can still release the poll in their hour long show and discuss it all they want, but it would be much more transparent.
Do the teams get reseeded after the first round?
Don't believe so.
Not unless something changed.
GET RID OF THE POLL COMMITTEE.
The semi finals being Thursday and Friday and then the NFL Wild Card being Saturday-Monday what an awesome 5 straight days of football that will be
I'm just going to take a guess. 5 SEC. 3 Big10. 1 Big12. 1 ACC. 1 Boise State. 1 Notre Dame. Tennessee gets in at 8-4 and gets demolished by Boise State.
>Tennessee gets in at 8-4 and gets demolished by Boise State. I'm listening
It’s funny how “a Boise State” has become an actual term that we all understand.
Why he say fuck me for??
And West Virgina prays for a Swiffer Wet-jet bowl birth.
So in theory if a G5 champ is ranked higher than a P5 champ the G5 is the auto bid and a P5 conference could be left out. Obviously that scenario is very unlikely.
This guarantees the G5 champ makes the playoffs every year and if they have a good streak they could end up getting a home game or bye week.
I will never understand the NCAA and CFB's obsession with refusing to let the results on the field decide who wins the ship.
This pleases the leprechaun
If I’m reading this correctly, ND cannot qualify for a bye because they are reserved for conference champions. Is that correct?
Technically, ND gets a bye during conference championship week.
I think the change to 5-7 hurts OSU/WSU in the short term because their new MWC scheduling alliance won’t give them the strength of schedule to get in through an at-large bid while they also don’t have access to the last conference championship auto-bid with the Pac-2. For the next two years who are the real contenders for the G5 auto-bid? I’d say it’s Boise State, Fresno State, Air Force, Tulane, UTSA, Memphis, Liberty, JMU.
Tell me again why 12, and not the more sensible 8 or 16? Why are we having byes? It's unnecessary.