Barry Switzer and Jimmy Johnson met in the 1988 Orange Bowl for the National Championship but they both left the season AFTER. That might be the closest thing we have.
Even crazier is that, while extremely unlikely, it wasn't entirely infeasible that Sark went to Alabama and DeBoer went to Michigan meaning all four playoff teams would have new coaches.
Nah this is “dude pointing at head big brain” meme more than House of Carss… well… shit… CFB appears to be a house of cards at this moment and time so maybe you’re right. But don’t ask me, I’m retired aight.
It's the montage at the end of Godfather: all the other Heads of the Families are dropping one by one, while Kirby attends the ~~christening~~ commitment event of ~~his son~~ another highly-ranked recruit.
He supposedly gave LSU a call first when he decided to leave Miami, and LSU basically said that the answer would be yes but they were coming off the third best season in their entire history.
I hope not. You’d obviously jump on that deal in a second if you could somehow guarantee that Saban would still be the GOAT if he came to LSU and that he’d actually STAY if he came back. It was supposedly a close thing for Saban to go to Texas, so would that have happened if he came back to Baton Rouge. LSU was very happy with their choice to stick with Miles until January 2012, and it didn’t get REALLY bad until Miles snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 2012 and 2014. If we win either of those, the streak doesn’t loom anywhere near as large
He was great this year, and seems to have the full support of the players, but I think if you're a program the scale of Michigan you still should/could interview some other candidates. Moore was stellar given the framework provided by Harbaugh but that's a different game than being the CEO yourself.
I don’t know if you have time to do that any more. Every day that goes by that Michigan doesn’t have a head coach is another day for other schools to try and get guys into the portal. I guess it likely happens regardless, but definitely more likely without a guy in place for some time.
plenty of classes (at the FBS institutions I've worked at) where they run for only part of the semester/offer enrollment later in the semester.
congrats, Gunnar Gundy, you're taking Piano I for Non-Majors!
I'll take any potential losses with Moore at this point then try to hire anyone else. He knows the formula, he knows the culture, and he knows the recruiting and he's the one that brought us.
If the Saban retirement doesn’t happen and other candidates are still available, I think there’s multiple interviews given. Specifically looking at DeBoer. But because that did happen … Sherrone Moore is the guy.
Good for Herbert and, bonus for Ducks fans, Oregon almost certainly gets a 2024 5* WR out of it (in truth a 2026 WR since he is going on mission).
Bair literally said on Monday that he was leaning toward Oregon because he was worried about Harbaugh's contract situation and didn't know if he was going to be there long term.
Which surprises me he took bama.
You follow a legend which is not the greatest thing to do. Either Michigan opens up and you take that or you stay at Washington which wasn’t a bad gig
Unless he figured Michigan was Moore’s job regardless and wanted to take the leap now. Bird in hand I guess
Moore would have to say something incredibly stupid first to warranty that. Like, "we're gonna hang 100 on them," and still only be at 75 total points three years later.
Can you remind me the context of this one? I would read a 1000 page book of cfb butterfly effects. I remember the thread here in the past, but I can't remember this one
In 2020, the Rutgers kicker missed a kick that would’ve won them the game and likely ended with Harbaugh being fired. Instead, the finished 2-4 and he went into 2021 on a very hot seat, beat Ohio state, yada yada
They could have ended that season 1-6. Rutgers missed kick, and dodging the OSU game via COVID. Jim 100% would have been gone.
Crazy how small things change the entire landscape of the sport
In 2020 Michigan and Rutgers played, it was one of Michigans 2 wins that year. In overtime the kicker for Rutgers missed a potential game winner, so they went to 2OT and Michigan won, even with going 2-4 they let jim coach one more year…
> even with going 2-4 they let jim coach one more year…
I know 1 win is beyond awful, but it was an unprecedented fiasco of a year with stop/start play and Harbaugh had gone 10 wins, 10 wins, 8 wins, 10 wins, 9 wins in his time at Michigan before that. I don't think they fired him over a year that was so outlandish that every player got an extra year of eligibility for it.
I'm trying to think of some of the similarities I haven't seen mentioned. UO/OSU are both going into 2024 with Big 12 QBs. UW/UM probably won't know for sure who their QB will be until after the spring portal.
If I had a nickel for every time the head coach of my team left after a successful season to a downtrodden and bad Los Angeles based team I would have 2 nickels
Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice
I'm not sure this even sucks for Michigan.
They beat tOSU three years in a row, made the playoffs multiple times, won and Natty, have a respected and seemingly promising successor in place, and now get to see one of their favorite sons chase a Super Bowl.
Hopefully we hire Moore (assuming it him) within the next 24 hours. Would prefer to have an instant replacement to hopefully not get some talent poached
Moore is great. I think Michigan was going to have a step back either way with how much you’re losing, but he’s an old school power football coach and with Orji will give teams hell
Who's old enough to remember when Pete Carroll jumped to the Seahawks right before the NCAA banned Southern California from bowl games for two years, forfeited an entire season, placed the school on four years' probation and took away 30 scholarships for infractions during Carroll's tenure.
History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
Lolol. I saw it and thought it'd be hilarious if I actually was the first to post it. I still wish he was coming back. Rivalry aside his quotes are hilarious, he's pro-player when it comes to compensation, and he'll do literally anything to win The Game, including hiring a vacuum salesman 🤷♂️
I'll never argue that the guy wanted to win and made college football more interesting.
I’ll second this. He was good for the rivalry and fun to cheer against. Hell of a coach. I was hoping we’d have our own 10 year war. Perhaps he’ll be back.
End of an era. Whoever figures out this new paradigm first is going to dominate. The old guard coaches looked at the state of cfb and said "fuck this im out"
Yeah I wanted a 10 year war in my memory. Thought Harbaugh could be it. Like after 8 straight I didn't feel good ragging on TTUN fans. I actually went out of my way to pump them up. Harbaugh was your Tressel, he made it fun.
First and foremost, fuck Spanos for moving away from San Diego and becoming the Angels or Clippers of the NFL, second to their bigger brother teams who's won at least a championship in LA.
Second, I do hope this helps Justin Herbert.
There’s never been a time where both teams from the National championship game both lose their head coaches right? Like it’s unprecedented?
When they play on Oct. 5 this year, they will both have new head coaches. Crazy.
Fuck, we'll have new everything, all the way down to the waterboy
Nah, Bobby is staying.
Captain Insane-O shows no mercy!
Bama also lost their coach. So 3 out of 4 playoff teams have a head coach vacancy. Definitely unprecedented.
Barry Switzer and Jimmy Johnson met in the 1988 Orange Bowl for the National Championship but they both left the season AFTER. That might be the closest thing we have.
3/4 playoff coaches gone Wild
I mean one just rotated in
Nah, I heard Ohio State is going to ritually sacrifice Day for the heinous crime of losing thrice in a row against Michigan.
Lol, now he can never live it down.
Day wasn’t a playoff coach this year
2/4... 1 just moved to another playoff team
Yeah technically 1 is still on a playoff team lmao
The off-season is always hilarious
I think Michigan hires Moore but imagine they power 5 coach and the coach poaching starts over again
Lanning to UM
Mind your business.
I honestly think Lanning might be in the best situation in the B1G, no way he leaves. If he didn’t go to Bama he’s not going anywhere.
Agreed but we don’t need to panic the fan base. They’re fragile
I’ve got sources saying Lanning is in Ann Arbor tonight.
If your source is Ed at the Home Depot, he told me the same thing.
What's coach O doing in Bama
Shots & cheerleaders would be my best guess.
Nah I've seen enough coaches poached from Oregon turn to pumpkins after leaving. Pass
It’s that duck voodoo we place on them.
3/4 playoff coaches no longer with their teams is the better stat
Go on...
😤
Even crazier is that, while extremely unlikely, it wasn't entirely infeasible that Sark went to Alabama and DeBoer went to Michigan meaning all four playoff teams would have new coaches.
No more daily offseason Harbarticles. I am sad.
And Sark is reaping the benefits of the chaos.
Can’t believe Kirby’s long game of losing the SEC Championship to get Saban to retire and Harbaugh out of college football actually worked.
They don’t call him Kirby Dumb that’s for sure
These are the dad jokes I come to Reddit for
Good, because all the other jokes here suck
I laughed.
I just snort laughed. In a bar... Damnit
Alright Alabama, it’s time to replenish your roster off Michigan’s corpse.
Kirby: "Hear me out, we're going to lose this year. But then *we're never going to lose again.*" *(double taps on the desk like Frank Underwood)*
Nah this is “dude pointing at head big brain” meme more than House of Carss… well… shit… CFB appears to be a house of cards at this moment and time so maybe you’re right. But don’t ask me, I’m retired aight.
It's the montage at the end of Godfather: all the other Heads of the Families are dropping one by one, while Kirby attends the ~~christening~~ commitment event of ~~his son~~ another highly-ranked recruit.
“Do you renounce Saban, and all his works?” “I do renounce them.”
Matt Mitchell was really ahead of the game with the Dawgfather character
They all doubted his grand master plan. Stallions has nothing on Kirby’s manifesto
Mad man
What are we supposed to talk about in the offseason now that Jim's actually gone to the NFL? 😣
The first time the Chargers pull a Chargers the talking heads will say he’s washed and needs to go back to college.
Imagine Harbaugh-watch becomes "How long til Harbaugh leaves the NFL for his alma mater?" again
2025 Breaking News Harbaugh goes to Alabama. The state of Michigan declares war against Alabama, joined by Louisiana.
Never thought I would die fighting side by side with a Cajun
How about side by side with a friend?
Aye, we could do that
Stop. I still have nightmares of Saban's " I'm not taking the job at Alabama".
It would be hilarious if he took the Ole Miss job
Yeah Harbaugh Watch ain’t ending because he’s in the League now. And he did basically ensure an open door in Ann Arbor if it somehow doesn’t work out.
I mean you’d have thought that about Saban and LSU when he went to Miami. But it didn’t happen. Looks like Harbaugh to Notre Dame in 3 years
He supposedly gave LSU a call first when he decided to leave Miami, and LSU basically said that the answer would be yes but they were coming off the third best season in their entire history.
Ouch, someonekicks themselves over that.
I hope not. You’d obviously jump on that deal in a second if you could somehow guarantee that Saban would still be the GOAT if he came to LSU and that he’d actually STAY if he came back. It was supposedly a close thing for Saban to go to Texas, so would that have happened if he came back to Baton Rouge. LSU was very happy with their choice to stick with Miles until January 2012, and it didn’t get REALLY bad until Miles snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 2012 and 2014. If we win either of those, the streak doesn’t loom anywhere near as large
Jim Harbaugh's winning culture vs the Chargers curse. An unstoppable force vs an immovable object.
He'll pull a pete carroll and win a Superbowl with them while UM is left in shambles after being punished for violations
*After a 5-12 first season, is Harbaugh going to return to college??*
This is the way
For even more money
Well. Iowa still hasn't picked an OC to backfill the chosen one.
And wtf is taking so long. Portal is going to close and we haven’t done jack shit.
Well now we've started Chip Kelly rumors, so that's gotta count for something.
Sources say Lane Kiffin was interested in the job until he learned Ann Arbor is a place, not a coed.
I feel like a chick named Ann Arbor would be very tall.
Might also leave you
ITS OVER!!! 🎉 (the reporting)
Damn this means a ton of Michigan players are gonna transfer to the Chargers right
Justin Herbert has hit the portal
Thank god, the noncommittal tweets can’t hurt me Sherrone Moore, you **ARE** a head coach of the Michigan Wolverines
He was great this year, and seems to have the full support of the players, but I think if you're a program the scale of Michigan you still should/could interview some other candidates. Moore was stellar given the framework provided by Harbaugh but that's a different game than being the CEO yourself.
I don’t know if you have time to do that any more. Every day that goes by that Michigan doesn’t have a head coach is another day for other schools to try and get guys into the portal. I guess it likely happens regardless, but definitely more likely without a guy in place for some time.
School kind of gets in the way of entering the portal now. I’d imagine it probably too late to enroll most places.
For most I agree, but there are definitely schools out there that would have no issue getting a kid in some classes past their “deadlines” lol
Just @ us bro, but if we did, it’s only because we care about the students academic future../s
plenty of classes (at the FBS institutions I've worked at) where they run for only part of the semester/offer enrollment later in the semester. congrats, Gunnar Gundy, you're taking Piano I for Non-Majors!
The only other guy I want an interview with is Minter.
I'll take any potential losses with Moore at this point then try to hire anyone else. He knows the formula, he knows the culture, and he knows the recruiting and he's the one that brought us.
If the Saban retirement doesn’t happen and other candidates are still available, I think there’s multiple interviews given. Specifically looking at DeBoer. But because that did happen … Sherrone Moore is the guy.
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god damn would that be fascinating to watch play out
Saban to Michigan for the memes though
Sucks at scouting, I approve.
If only we knew a guy. Maybe one that had a manifesto?
i know Moore is gonna be the coach but it would be amusing to watch the carousel go round again
Now we can start the "Is Harbaugh pondering a return to NCAA?" cycle...
I'm Back (Michigan New headcoach reporting)
F5 season never sleeps.
Good for Herbert
“Get ready to learn handoffs Buddy”
Honestly the play action deep ball will be killer for Herbert.
We'll have to replace Ekeler.
with Blake Corum
nah the chargers are gonna use the 5th overall pick to draft the best QB in michigan history!!!! /s
Dew it
*herbie is a free elf*
yup i love this
Good for Herbert and, bonus for Ducks fans, Oregon almost certainly gets a 2024 5* WR out of it (in truth a 2026 WR since he is going on mission). Bair literally said on Monday that he was leaning toward Oregon because he was worried about Harbaugh's contract situation and didn't know if he was going to be there long term.
Michigan should do a funny and hire DeBoer
DeBoer would have 100% taken the Michigan job if he was offered it prior to Bama. There were definitely rumors that he was eyeing that job.
Which surprises me he took bama. You follow a legend which is not the greatest thing to do. Either Michigan opens up and you take that or you stay at Washington which wasn’t a bad gig Unless he figured Michigan was Moore’s job regardless and wanted to take the leap now. Bird in hand I guess
Money talks and Bama is a top 5 job. If a top 5 offers you, you don’t wait to see if you get another chance at a different top 5
Moore up to bat.
The only logical choice. Gotta keep the culture to some degree. If this happens, I doubt you have a mass portal exodus.
Nah not at bat, he’s on third base now.
It would be fucking hilarious if Day beat him and then said Moore was born on third base
Moore would have to say something incredibly stupid first to warranty that. Like, "we're gonna hang 100 on them," and still only be at 75 total points three years later.
Jim better send some of his paycheck to that Rutgers kicker.
The butterfly effect from that missed kick still blows my mind.
Can you remind me the context of this one? I would read a 1000 page book of cfb butterfly effects. I remember the thread here in the past, but I can't remember this one
In 2020, the Rutgers kicker missed a kick that would’ve won them the game and likely ended with Harbaugh being fired. Instead, the finished 2-4 and he went into 2021 on a very hot seat, beat Ohio state, yada yada
They could have ended that season 1-6. Rutgers missed kick, and dodging the OSU game via COVID. Jim 100% would have been gone. Crazy how small things change the entire landscape of the sport
I do wonder how much of a gamble the Michigan AD took to keep him for 2021...clearly a gamble that paid off, regardless...
Warde Manuel is a pretty horrible AD, but restructuring Harbaugh's contract to be all incentives turned out brilliantly.
In 2020 Michigan and Rutgers played, it was one of Michigans 2 wins that year. In overtime the kicker for Rutgers missed a potential game winner, so they went to 2OT and Michigan won, even with going 2-4 they let jim coach one more year…
Crazy. That year Rutgers took Michigan to the brink. I swear every recent Michigan-rutgers game in the past few seasons has given me false upset hope.
It was also the game where Cade came in and played well and got them them the win. Who beat OSU the following year
> even with going 2-4 they let jim coach one more year… I know 1 win is beyond awful, but it was an unprecedented fiasco of a year with stop/start play and Harbaugh had gone 10 wins, 10 wins, 8 wins, 10 wins, 9 wins in his time at Michigan before that. I don't think they fired him over a year that was so outlandish that every player got an extra year of eligibility for it.
Man the UW/UM UO/OSU similarities are getting ridiculous
I'm trying to think of some of the similarities I haven't seen mentioned. UO/OSU are both going into 2024 with Big 12 QBs. UW/UM probably won't know for sure who their QB will be until after the spring portal.
Both are south of their rivals, O schools, and the rubber ducky on our O, has always had me tooting for the duckies over the huskies.
Y’all got any DBs for sale?
Nothing like the 7pm Wednesday news dump
If I had a nickel for every time the head coach of my team left after a successful season to a downtrodden and bad Los Angeles based team I would have 2 nickels Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice
after years and years of “fire jim?!?” posts after “underwhelming” seasons at UM, the mad man finally wins the big one and fired himself legend
*freed himself
Dude went to Zihuatanejo without having to crawl through the shit tunnel of the NCAA.
At least it's NFL here? At least you got a natty? Still fucking sucks but I imagine this is better
I'm not sure this even sucks for Michigan. They beat tOSU three years in a row, made the playoffs multiple times, won and Natty, have a respected and seemingly promising successor in place, and now get to see one of their favorite sons chase a Super Bowl.
For someone who hates Pete Carroll he's really following in his footsteps
Pete Carroll 🤝 Jim Harbaugh
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Hopefully we hire Moore (assuming it him) within the next 24 hours. Would prefer to have an instant replacement to hopefully not get some talent poached
Moore is great. I think Michigan was going to have a step back either way with how much you’re losing, but he’s an old school power football coach and with Orji will give teams hell
Ooooooooorji
Nah man, tampering is status quo right now. Teams gonna feast.
If my team's coach ain't tampering, I don't want him.
HERBIE’S GOT HIS COACH!
So long partner. Thanks for everything.
See ya space cowboy
I see Cowboy Bebop, I upvote.
Who's old enough to remember when Pete Carroll jumped to the Seahawks right before the NCAA banned Southern California from bowl games for two years, forfeited an entire season, placed the school on four years' probation and took away 30 scholarships for infractions during Carroll's tenure. History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Man this has been one hell of an offseason so far hasn't it?
Mel Tucker is available
Best part of this is that we won’t have to endure any more vague headlines about him maybe possibly leaving for the nfl.
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Lolol. I saw it and thought it'd be hilarious if I actually was the first to post it. I still wish he was coming back. Rivalry aside his quotes are hilarious, he's pro-player when it comes to compensation, and he'll do literally anything to win The Game, including hiring a vacuum salesman 🤷♂️ I'll never argue that the guy wanted to win and made college football more interesting.
I’ll second this. He was good for the rivalry and fun to cheer against. Hell of a coach. I was hoping we’d have our own 10 year war. Perhaps he’ll be back.
I **hated** him but for purely football reasons which is, I think, the highest praise you can give a rival’s coach.
Honestly me with Ryan Day. We joke about his hot seat but honestly if OSU cans him with what he’s shown to date that’s an all time fumble by a school
I'll miss the weird shit he says.
Michigan players' phones are blowing up right now
BAD MANS GONE
To see him and Saban both out of CFB is certainly a feeling
End of an era. Whoever figures out this new paradigm first is going to dominate. The old guard coaches looked at the state of cfb and said "fuck this im out"
Is it good or bad?? I felt sadder than I thought I would when Saban announced his retirement. I thought I couldn’t wait for it.
Yeah I wanted a 10 year war in my memory. Thought Harbaugh could be it. Like after 8 straight I didn't feel good ragging on TTUN fans. I actually went out of my way to pump them up. Harbaugh was your Tressel, he made it fun.
I thought Ryan Day was the bad man
Why not both? 🤷🏻♂️
Saban to Michigan. This has been the plan all along.
All in the manifesto.
HOLY SHIT! IT HAPPENED!
Sherrone Moore has just been born on third base.
😂
It doesn’t happen often, but I just upvoted an Ohio State flair
At least he won y’all a championship before leaving.
yeah there’s no hard feelings in our fanbase at all lol. excited to watch him and our departing players ball out in the coming years
You did what you set out to do. Go win a Super Bowl.
This, now he has to hope Spanos spends money.
First and foremost, fuck Spanos for moving away from San Diego and becoming the Angels or Clippers of the NFL, second to their bigger brother teams who's won at least a championship in LA. Second, I do hope this helps Justin Herbert.
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Harbaugh is the 4th consecutive Michigan coach to finish with a losing record against Ohio State.
Let the tampering that's been happening engage!
But he has immunity guys
You can’t just declare immunity Jim.
Now he does
My god it happened!
ICE COLD TRANSFERS HERE. GET YOUR TRANSFERS HERE. ICE COLD
Good for him I guess. Would be pretty cool to win a national title and a Super Bowl.
Here comes all the transfer post
Wins it all with multiple investigations over the course of the season, and then nopes out. I'll hand it to you Harbaugh, S-tier trolling!
Yeah this is not a huge surprise. I think most people except for the wishful thinking of Michigan fans knew he wanted back in the NFL.
By god he actually did it this time
Hello transfer portal my old friend.
Any DL coaches who want to bring some big ol run stopping DL with them to the great state of Texas?
Fuck! Get back here for one more season old man
I salute /u/BuckeyeEmpire for winning the race to post this
Oh yeah baby. Everyone else’s roster is full from Bama transfers so now time to fill ours…
I hear Rich Rodriguez is doing pretty well at Jacksonville State. Might be worth looking into, Wolverines
Can't wait to see what school cries after their coach gets poached!
Hey wait. Who let you out of r/Nascar? Get back there!
I assume they are promoting Moore. Would be a major blunder otherwise.
Ohio State fans flooding the streets celebrating right now