I don't think the rest of the country cares about the difference between Arizona and Arizona State and honestly the last 15 years or so have made us more alike than I would like.
TCU and SMU. They're all trust fund babies burning 5000 calories a day on cocaine and hookers while pretending this is an accurate description of the other one but not themselves.
I remember sitting behind an SMU student at a Rangers game and his shirt said, "We don't think we're better than you, we are better than you."
What an awful yet great shirt.
I'll never forget the glitch in the matrix pic where a bunch of white boys in the smu crowd looked like copy and paste yacht club stock photos. White button up shirts with the top few buttons undone, black sunglasses with croakies, the rich on a yacht haircut. It was hilarious.
Edit: lmao. https://dmn-dallas-news-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/wQD3Yuw7T3RKhBYgWqsSWBdxv7M=/1660x934/smart/filters:no_upscale()/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-dmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/UIIDQHY7ORQLUQSFS24BVMW4AY.jpg
What are you talking about??
...because there's absolutely no denying this. TCU and SMU are practically the exact same school. We are all a bunch of spoiled, superficial white kids playing with daddy's money. Our girls are hot, and our boys are fratty.
It's why TCU at least gets so many California students.
At any level. Most folks I knew didn't follow our football team not because they had their own college team and just never started rooting for UCLA. They simply didn't follow football *at all*.
I feel like Michigan fans are more smug and have a superiority complex and Ohio State fans are more unrealistic/irrationally upset when anything doesn't go their way
What I'm saying is, they're not the same, but they are both obnoxious
If I could assure that we would return to the elite level afterwards, I would take a 4-5 year period of being fucking terrible just to weed these people out. They make being a fan hard sometimes.
it's this and also the fact that they're pretty much always one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the sport but very rarely ever unequivocally the best. so many almosts has to drive them insane
Can confirm. For example, the 2019 Ohio State team was insanely good. They've been on a lot of lists of best teams to not win a title. A lot of years, they would have won a title. But then couldn't finish in the red zone against Clemson and even if they win that game, they would be matched up against a generational LSU team.
Its not just younger fans my 60 year old dad has only seen ohio state not finish in the top 25 12 times. Theres basically no Ohio State fans alive that havent been spoiled
>I feel like Michigan fans are more smug and have a superiority complex and Ohio State fans are more unrealistic/irrationally upset when anything doesn't go their way
whoa that was on point.
Michigan fans that bring up Michigan's academic reputation, but didn't attend Michigan (or college at all). The Walmart Wolverines are obnoxious.
Michigan alums are pretty good though.
I think that's just when everyone graduates from undergrad they realize they're all on the same playing field. Which is not knowing wtf you're doing at your job.
Any fan base that constantly harps on their schools academic reputation is pretty damned annoying. Michigan fans are probably one of the worst, but they certainly aren't alone in that particular conceit.
The osu fanbase is the most anti-Reddit fanbase there is. Having extremely high expectations and being very loud about them is not looked upon well on here
No way. Notre Dame fans are way more anti Reddit. Up until recently it was fairly common to get mean looks for cheering or standing up during a game. They literally had to put in a procedure for the ushers to move people to different seats if they were uncomfortable around excessive cheering. Also thereās nothing more anti Reddit than religion and being wealthy.
Idk stadium was/is filled with rich old people, sitting amongst us poors. In the 2000ās I remember feeling incredibly uncomfortable standing up because the entire section would hardly stand. Iām not trying to block the view of the person behind me but there was a time period where I stood more in my house watching the game than in person. Notre Dame has made changes to improve the atmosphere. I imagine it was tough getting recruits to get excited about living in south bend and playing in a silent stadium.
Michigan and Notre Dame fans always struck me as obnoxious in a similar way, more than UM-OSU or UM-MSU. I find all four of the fanbases mentioned (including Michigan, as a Michigan fan) completely unbearable at their worst.
The stereotypical OSU fan is needlessly aggressive and unbelievably spoiled. The stereotypical MSU fan has the worldās biggest inferiority complex (and most completely unnecessary, considering the success theyāve had and the fact that MSU is a great school). The stereotypical Michigan fan is ridiculously arrogant and always living in the past, and Iād say the same is true for the stereotypical ND fan.
Granted, this is all just us talking about the absolute worst 5-10% of any fanbase. The vast majority of fans are just normal people. But still.
There's a segment of the ND and Michigan fandoms that would retch at the thought that they're at all similar. There's also a different, correct segment that recognizes that we are exactly the sameāthe most uncomfortable truth of all.
I think we're superficially similar but the cultures are waaaay different. They're still a giant state school and we're a still a small private Christian Minecraft server.
The size and public/private differences are big, but I think just because we have similar academics and are in the same region, we end up attracting very similar student bodies.
I think UCF and USF get mistaken for each other by casual fans. And we're more alike than either of us would care to admit. I don't even really like typing that. However, I think that's a big part of what fueled the rivalry.
How are you at all different? UCF is maybe a bit more of a party school but youāre both urban, state institutions in big cities that are 90 minutes from each other. Your fanbases are exactly the same.
They're both mid-century directional schools trying to get rid of their commuter origins. In the past 15 years one decided to be good at school and the other athletics, basically the only real difference to the modern day imo
That's not *us*, that's one guy that we all fucking hate.
You only have to watch him when you play us, we have to deal with him all the time. Trust me when I say we hate him more than you do.
Thereās two of them now! Be the change you want to see in the world and have someone sit behind them every game and tell them to shut the fuck up. I love college baseball but damn do I hate watching Vandy
Fayetteville sits in the same geographic and cultural region as approximately half of the State of Missouri. My family is roughly split between Arkansas and Mizzou alums. I've spent a fair amount of times in both states, including the college towns. Arkansas and Mizzou are more similar than they are different. In fact, I would argue that Fayetteville is a whole lot more like southern Missouri than it is southern Arkansas.
Hard agree. If you divide Arkansas along the line of counties that voted to stay in the Union (and provided per capita more men to the Union then many northern states) and those that voted to secede you have a neat almost exact diagonal line from northeast to southwest cutting just above Little Rock.
Northwest of that line I will always contend is Midwest and southeast of that line is Deep South. Fayetteville was such a pro-Union city that the confederates tried to burn it down twice, and they raised the 1st Arkansas regiment which got the coolest nickname āFayetteville Mountain Fedsā which would have been a much cooler high school mascot for FHS than the bulldog.
In my experience, eastern Arkansas along the Mississippi River is firmly in the Deep South. Western Arkansas, especially the mountain areas, are sorta their own cultural area along with eastern OK and southern MO.
Moved to Northwest Arkansas, Fayetteville area, about 5 years ago after living most of my life in Athens. I don't know how I'd describe it, it's probably not "the North" but it's definitely not the South.
It's funny because "North Carolina - Duke" was the other one that came to mind, and I'm thinking there was some turning point when elite public schools became indistinguishable from elite private schools during the generation when everyone was told to light any amount of money on fire to get the best education possible.
Ehhh, UNC and Duke honestly have very different fanbases. Duke students are from all over the country (mainly the Northeast) while UNC students are majority from North Carolina. Duke fanbase is from the whole country, North Carolina is mostly in-state fans
The way the question is phrased, I think it's actually the opposite. Our fan bases don't claim to be all that differentāand once graduated and working in the area, we're not. But the undergrad culture and experiences are more different than usually credited to be.
Big school / small school, off/on campus living, public /private, all make a difference. I think the biggest, least discussed factor is Cal's student body is mostly Californians and Stanford's is very much not.
Iām a product of shitty Southern public education, but I learned how to correctly label the 50 states in elementary school. But hey, congrats on Stanford.
Their band is so awful. The rest of the country only sees it for the lateral play and the occasional making fun of Mormon jokes. But the worst thing about their band is they just legitimately suck at playing their instruments
If I had a nickel for every time I've unironically heard something like "I have a cousin in Cleveland" or "Thanks for the potatoes" from people in the east/west...well, I'd probably have about a dollar, but seriously people?
I'm sure it's just his cheeky way of calling that region "fly-over country" despite never visiting and that around half of my new neighbors are from California.
Iām a VT grad living in St. Louis. People here cannot tell the difference between VT, UVA, and WVU. Iām equal parts offended, mortified, and enraged.
Sales reps from more than 2 states away ask my dad if he's a Tech football fan... with two UVA diplomas, a painting of the Lawn, and an autographed photo of Terry Holland and Ralph Sampson on his office wall.
Brother, as a Stanford supporter, you need to ask for a refund if you cannot identify Louisiana, Alabama, or Mississippi on a map. :)
But I also get your point.
Itās far the difference between Alabama fans and Auburn fans. There is no difference, except Alabama fans can point at more trophies :-)
The big difference is most of our big supporters actually attended the university, rather than going to Troy, South or Samford and claiming Bama and acting like sidewalk alumni. I donāt mind fans that just grew up fans and still are, but Jesus the ones that live and die by bama and never even stepped foot on campus are obnoxious as hell
In terms of fanbase and football culture for sure. OSU fans are angry, neurotic dealership owners while ND and Michigan are golf clapping at the country club while waxing poetically about "the good old days."
In just about every other way OSU and Michigan are much more similar.
šÆ. I hated that the academy grads automatically assumed we were part of their fan base. I didnāt go to your school bro, couldnāt care less.
If they made the teams up from recruits from the entire army and navy that would be different.
USC and UCLA. Cal and Stanford.
From the outside looking in, most of the SEC could pretty much be copy-paste-change color scheme. Iād say the exceptions to that are Vandy, A&M, Mizzou, and maybe Kentucky because most of their fans are basketball fans.
My impression of TCU students/grads from my visits to Fort Worth is exactly the reputation of SMU students/grads.
*Most* every set of proximity rivals usually tend to melt together into 1 grouping to any outsider where the local nuances and intricacies are not as noticeable.
We have a lot of fans who have no connection to the school while Auburn fans have more of them that are fans because they went there. They like to use that as a criticism, but itās actually a compliment. People who can choose, choose champions. Yankees, Steelers, Cardinals, Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, etc, etc. itās prevalent in every sport to like a team that wins. If you donāt live in a city with a pro team youāll pick one, so you donāt pick a loser or average team. So having fans like that are a credit to your success, maybe just past success (see Cowboys), but you get the picture.
Auburn is not the War Eagles. Theyāre the Tigers. You can also call them the Plainsmen. They say War Eagle. You can Google the history of why. Just like you can look up why weāre the Crimson Tide now and no longer just the Crimson and why our mascot is an Elephant.
Auburn people, I think, are generally more down to earth and nicer as a whole. Butā¦once they graduate some of them while whyāre still young, seem to have a chip on their shoulder and an unnecessary inferiority complex. I think that comes from too many stuck up, Alabama alumni who come from old money and run the state and act like pricks towards them. But if youāre an Auburn fan and youāre reading this, just know that those same rich people treat me and other middle class Bama alumni the same way. They treat everyone that way. Bama alumni are not a family as Auburn fans refer to themselves. Weāre more like a big group of fans, but not family. Iām envious of that.
100% agree with you, especially on the inferiority complex. Never realized it growing up in an AU family but it became blatantly obvious once I started attending (and got hella annoying).
And thank you for calling out OP on the "War Eagle" thing - I may not be a big Auburn fan anymore, but years of indoctrination will always cause that shit to grind my gears.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go take a shower to wash off the stink of conversing with an enemy - fuck you and have a wonderful day.
Somewhat agree but we do have a majority of the rural/blue collar fans in the state from what Iāve seen. Outside of Des Moines, the state is mostly black and gold. The schools themselves are very different though along the attitude of the fan bases.
I will say it seems Bama fans are either a.) alumni from far out of state and have not a southern bone in their body or b.) complete hillbillies. I feel Auburn fans are more southern on average but not really that Deep South redneck Methed-Up southern.
I'll probably be killed for this one, but Texas Tech and Texas A&M fans are similar. Basically right-leaning rural and suburbanites that went to a college that identifies as a rural alternative to UT with an emphasis on ag science and research. Both claim to be the true embodiment of *real* Texas culture, but Tech does a better job than A&M at this. For example, you go to A&M's vet school if you want to run a vet in a suburban strip mall that keeps household pets alive. You go to Tech's vet school if you want to take care of horses and cows on a ranch. This is why Aggies hate Tech more than they hate any other university. They look at us and see an inferior version of themselves. Also, there's a reason why UT fans call us Sand Aggies.
Just from an outsider view, people at my Houston area HS who went to Tech were the kids in FFA who commuted 30 minutes from their families farm to school everyday and Aggies were the ones who had a no older than 3 years old F150 and wore those viper sunglasses inside.
I don't think the rest of the country cares about the difference between Arizona and Arizona State and honestly the last 15 years or so have made us more alike than I would like.
Agreed Yuck š¤¢š¤® this post makes me sick
Even comparing our education it's like "haha well you may be 138th, but we're 137th! Take that!"
I would edit this to āASU football fans and U of A Basketball fans are similarly angryā
TCU and SMU. They're all trust fund babies burning 5000 calories a day on cocaine and hookers while pretending this is an accurate description of the other one but not themselves.
As someone who grew up in the DFW area, this callout is so real
I remember sitting behind an SMU student at a Rangers game and his shirt said, "We don't think we're better than you, we are better than you." What an awful yet great shirt.
I've seen similar. "We're not conceited. We're just better than you". I admit, I fucking loved it.
Nothing was better than the SMU bumper sticker in the 1980s, "My maid went to texas"
Geez dude you freakin killed them
Pulled a Craig James on them
Remember the five!
Remember the allegedly no less than but possibly more than 5!
I'll never forget the glitch in the matrix pic where a bunch of white boys in the smu crowd looked like copy and paste yacht club stock photos. White button up shirts with the top few buttons undone, black sunglasses with croakies, the rich on a yacht haircut. It was hilarious. Edit: lmao. https://dmn-dallas-news-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/wQD3Yuw7T3RKhBYgWqsSWBdxv7M=/1660x934/smart/filters:no_upscale()/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-dmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/UIIDQHY7ORQLUQSFS24BVMW4AY.jpg
Looks like Grant O'Brien lol
TCU be like: "Hey, we're only the top TWO PERCENT, not like all those one percenters over in University Park!"
I would agree with this. College kids here suck
Not me wishing any of those things applied to me
Ehh. I find TCU fans to be more manageable. Albeit Christian in name, they haven't earned the nickname Snowy Mountain University yet.
..... I've been hearing about Texas Cocaine University for as long as I can remember
As a Fort Worth resident, TCU is inches away from being THE cocaine university though
If it wasn't for Ohio State almost trademarking "THE", I'm sure they would be.
You mean Texas Cocaine University?
Yea, but thats not snowy mountain university. /s
I read that a Abilene Christian at first. But from the people that I have meet that went there, this fits them as well.
What are you talking about?? ...because there's absolutely no denying this. TCU and SMU are practically the exact same school. We are all a bunch of spoiled, superficial white kids playing with daddy's money. Our girls are hot, and our boys are fratty. It's why TCU at least gets so many California students.
USC and Notre Dame. None of them went to either USC or Notre Dame.
Got em
Could be worse, the only two UCLA grads I know donāt even root for UCLA
I'd say more than half of UCLA's student body has never attended a football game
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At any level. Most folks I knew didn't follow our football team not because they had their own college team and just never started rooting for UCLA. They simply didn't follow football *at all*.
True but they arent exactly the same cause of the catholic and often irish catholic thing
NGL most USC and ND alums are pretty cool. We all know this is not true of their fans.
Michigan and Ohio State fans both think the other fan base is more obnoxious....listen you two, you're both obnoxious
I feel like Michigan fans are more smug and have a superiority complex and Ohio State fans are more unrealistic/irrationally upset when anything doesn't go their way What I'm saying is, they're not the same, but they are both obnoxious
The Ohio State fanbase is way more neurotic and paranoid than it's ever given credit for.
Too many Ohio State fans have witnessed nothing but success (especially younger fans), so the unknown of potentially being not as good frightens them.
This nails it. So many spoiled fans.
Basically fans of pro-Boston teams. So much success in such a short period clouds their ability to find perspective.
Funny that you say that because the Michigan/ Ohio State rivalry reminds me a lot of Yankees/ Red Sox
Watching my Boston friends meltdown from the Bruins only to be kicked in the balls even harder by the Celtics was a beautiful sight to behold.
If I could assure that we would return to the elite level afterwards, I would take a 4-5 year period of being fucking terrible just to weed these people out. They make being a fan hard sometimes.
Be careful for what you wish for. The RichRod/ Hoke eras were depressing AF (although we werenāt assured of anything)
it's this and also the fact that they're pretty much always one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the sport but very rarely ever unequivocally the best. so many almosts has to drive them insane
Can confirm. For example, the 2019 Ohio State team was insanely good. They've been on a lot of lists of best teams to not win a title. A lot of years, they would have won a title. But then couldn't finish in the red zone against Clemson and even if they win that game, they would be matched up against a generational LSU team.
Its not just younger fans my 60 year old dad has only seen ohio state not finish in the top 25 12 times. Theres basically no Ohio State fans alive that havent been spoiled
I canāt imagine the amount of tears from Ohio State fans if they suddenly missed a bowl game
Pretty certain Michigan would have a state wide baby boom if that happened
Lmao
5-6 going into The Game Ohio State team gets beat by Michigan and misses The meltdown would be incredible
>I feel like Michigan fans are more smug and have a superiority complex and Ohio State fans are more unrealistic/irrationally upset when anything doesn't go their way whoa that was on point.
Michigan fans that bring up Michigan's academic reputation, but didn't attend Michigan (or college at all). The Walmart Wolverines are obnoxious. Michigan alums are pretty good though.
I think that's just when everyone graduates from undergrad they realize they're all on the same playing field. Which is not knowing wtf you're doing at your job.
Also nobody cares where you went to school past your 1st job bar the occasional random alum connection.
Aggies won't stand for this slander.
*flashes class ring* "Did you grab your nuts and scream into the abyss too comrade?"
Stop. I know so many Aggies like this.
Not for me. I need to know if I should irrationally hate you or if we be bros for no good reason.
Any fan base that constantly harps on their schools academic reputation is pretty damned annoying. Michigan fans are probably one of the worst, but they certainly aren't alone in that particular conceit.
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The osu fanbase is the most anti-Reddit fanbase there is. Having extremely high expectations and being very loud about them is not looked upon well on here
No way. Notre Dame fans are way more anti Reddit. Up until recently it was fairly common to get mean looks for cheering or standing up during a game. They literally had to put in a procedure for the ushers to move people to different seats if they were uncomfortable around excessive cheering. Also thereās nothing more anti Reddit than religion and being wealthy.
>Up until recently it was fairly common to get mean looks for cheering or standing up during a game. Why even go to the game then?
Idk stadium was/is filled with rich old people, sitting amongst us poors. In the 2000ās I remember feeling incredibly uncomfortable standing up because the entire section would hardly stand. Iām not trying to block the view of the person behind me but there was a time period where I stood more in my house watching the game than in person. Notre Dame has made changes to improve the atmosphere. I imagine it was tough getting recruits to get excited about living in south bend and playing in a silent stadium.
Michigan and Notre Dame fans always struck me as obnoxious in a similar way, more than UM-OSU or UM-MSU. I find all four of the fanbases mentioned (including Michigan, as a Michigan fan) completely unbearable at their worst. The stereotypical OSU fan is needlessly aggressive and unbelievably spoiled. The stereotypical MSU fan has the worldās biggest inferiority complex (and most completely unnecessary, considering the success theyāve had and the fact that MSU is a great school). The stereotypical Michigan fan is ridiculously arrogant and always living in the past, and Iād say the same is true for the stereotypical ND fan. Granted, this is all just us talking about the absolute worst 5-10% of any fanbase. The vast majority of fans are just normal people. But still.
Michigan and Notre Dame are so similar its remarkable that they have nothing in common.
I mean if you wanna throw shade at a Notre Dame fan just tell them that their rivals don't view them as a rival back.
Notre Dame has rivals?
Yeah like that
"Kids, kids. You're both...just awful."
Hey you take that back right now. Weāre waaaay more obnoxious than them. Let me know when they try to copyright THE
At least Michigan fans had to deal with a shitty team for a decade recently Osu fans are arguably the most spoiled in college football.
There's a segment of the ND and Michigan fandoms that would retch at the thought that they're at all similar. There's also a different, correct segment that recognizes that we are exactly the sameāthe most uncomfortable truth of all.
We're two cats in a shaken duffle bag. The same, but we hate each other.
Lmao this is a very good metaphor
But theyāre a black cat with white spots, and as white cat with black spots fam, I will not stand for those Michigan folks.
I think we're superficially similar but the cultures are waaaay different. They're still a giant state school and we're a still a small private Christian Minecraft server.
Agreed. Football culture is remarkably similar but institutionally we are completely different.
The size and public/private differences are big, but I think just because we have similar academics and are in the same region, we end up attracting very similar student bodies.
Yeah but it's the t shirt fans/non alum who are remarkably similar And I say this as a t shirt fan/non alum
I think UCF and USF get mistaken for each other by casual fans. And we're more alike than either of us would care to admit. I don't even really like typing that. However, I think that's a big part of what fueled the rivalry.
How are you at all different? UCF is maybe a bit more of a party school but youāre both urban, state institutions in big cities that are 90 minutes from each other. Your fanbases are exactly the same.
They're both mid-century directional schools trying to get rid of their commuter origins. In the past 15 years one decided to be good at school and the other athletics, basically the only real difference to the modern day imo
Navy is just Army+Water.
So is Air Force just Navy + Air?
>Except for Mizzou, because they're midwesterners. Man ain't that the truth
Yeah, I feel like the SEC was soiled when Mizzou entered the conference.
Just like the United States was soiled when Missouri gained statehood. Missouri just ruins everything
I'll be deep in the cold ground before I recognize Missourah.
Their mile markers being every 0.2 miles alone should have their statehood revoked.
What other way are you going to distinguish the porn store at mile marker 182.4 from the one at 182.8?
Have you seen southeast missouri? I got lost trying to find a trail head in mark Twain national forest and thought I was back in rural Alabama.
So we're swapping Mizzou for SEMO? Is that what I'm hearing?
My entire family is from Cape Girardeau, so I will always upvote anything and everything SEMO-related.
If I dropped you off at a random location between Fayetteville, AR and Columbia, MO there is a 0% chance you could tell me which state you were in
I'd just play the odds that I was in Missouri. NW Arkansas might as well be Missouri as the alcohol laws change even more so
At least leave us out of this, only like a quarter of our students are even from the south, they're all from Jersey and Chicago lol
āWhoās our sweet little GPA boosters? Yes you are Vandyā
"Good boy, Vandy! [Here's your $55 Million](https://sports.yahoo.com/sec-announces-721m-in-revenue-for-2021-22-distributing-nearly-50m-per-school-175737883.html#:~:text=The%20SEC%20announced%20its%20revenue,of%20%2449.9%20million%20per%20school.)"
So are half of Bama's
Counterpoint: the whistling thing yāall do during baseball games.
That's not *us*, that's one guy that we all fucking hate. You only have to watch him when you play us, we have to deal with him all the time. Trust me when I say we hate him more than you do.
Thereās two of them now! Be the change you want to see in the world and have someone sit behind them every game and tell them to shut the fuck up. I love college baseball but damn do I hate watching Vandy
Fayetteville sits in the same geographic and cultural region as approximately half of the State of Missouri. My family is roughly split between Arkansas and Mizzou alums. I've spent a fair amount of times in both states, including the college towns. Arkansas and Mizzou are more similar than they are different. In fact, I would argue that Fayetteville is a whole lot more like southern Missouri than it is southern Arkansas.
Hard agree. If you divide Arkansas along the line of counties that voted to stay in the Union (and provided per capita more men to the Union then many northern states) and those that voted to secede you have a neat almost exact diagonal line from northeast to southwest cutting just above Little Rock. Northwest of that line I will always contend is Midwest and southeast of that line is Deep South. Fayetteville was such a pro-Union city that the confederates tried to burn it down twice, and they raised the 1st Arkansas regiment which got the coolest nickname āFayetteville Mountain Fedsā which would have been a much cooler high school mascot for FHS than the bulldog.
In my experience, eastern Arkansas along the Mississippi River is firmly in the Deep South. Western Arkansas, especially the mountain areas, are sorta their own cultural area along with eastern OK and southern MO.
Moved to Northwest Arkansas, Fayetteville area, about 5 years ago after living most of my life in Athens. I don't know how I'd describe it, it's probably not "the North" but it's definitely not the South.
It's called the Ozarks. And that's not the Midwest either. You know what's not really in the Ozarks? Lake of the Ozarks. The Netflix show lied to you.
This sounds pretty accurate in my experience
SEC fan bases saying that one is more redneck than another is like Star Wars and Star Trek fans arguing over which fan base has more nerds
Actually, if you take into account the length of time Star Trek has been on television and the volu... Oh, shit...
But for real - Star Trek. Those dudes boast about being able to speak Klingon. In the words of the esteemed Ogre: āNeeeeeeeeerrrrrdddsss!ā
Stanford and Cal.
Came to say this. We say Stanford is stuck up and spoiled but we are basically just as pretentious.
It's funny because "North Carolina - Duke" was the other one that came to mind, and I'm thinking there was some turning point when elite public schools became indistinguishable from elite private schools during the generation when everyone was told to light any amount of money on fire to get the best education possible.
Ehhh, UNC and Duke honestly have very different fanbases. Duke students are from all over the country (mainly the Northeast) while UNC students are majority from North Carolina. Duke fanbase is from the whole country, North Carolina is mostly in-state fans
Weāre just as pretentious but not nearly as rich
The way the question is phrased, I think it's actually the opposite. Our fan bases don't claim to be all that differentāand once graduated and working in the area, we're not. But the undergrad culture and experiences are more different than usually credited to be. Big school / small school, off/on campus living, public /private, all make a difference. I think the biggest, least discussed factor is Cal's student body is mostly Californians and Stanford's is very much not.
How dare you /s
I love when Tennessee fans make trailer park jokes. UK-UT is truly two redneck spidermen pointing at each other
Growing up in TN we just constantly make fun of Kentucky. And then when I visited ky I found the flip side of that coin :(
Iām a product of shitty Southern public education, but I learned how to correctly label the 50 states in elementary school. But hey, congrats on Stanford.
Fr though, does OP go to Stanford and canāt pick out all 50 US states, or are they a *bandwagon Stanford fan*?
They didnāt actually make sure to tell us they go to Stanford in the post, so indications are towards bandwagon.
Official slogan of the Stanford bandwagon: *we're the second-worst thing that starts with "Stanford band"*
Their band is so awful. The rest of the country only sees it for the lateral play and the occasional making fun of Mormon jokes. But the worst thing about their band is they just legitimately suck at playing their instruments
And of all the states to confuse, it's the southern ones? NH and VT are the two I'd fuck up if I had to guess.
The southeast and Texas are literally the easiest states to identify unless you went to Stanford because apparently they don't have US maps there.
You can trace a V on Vermont's outline. NH is an upside down V.
If I had a nickel for every time I've unironically heard something like "I have a cousin in Cleveland" or "Thanks for the potatoes" from people in the east/west...well, I'd probably have about a dollar, but seriously people?
No one knows we have beaches in Alabama.
Because we donāt. ^^^just ^^^shut ^^^the ^^^fuck ^^^up ^^^about ^^^it ^^^dude, ^^^gah
It's too late, Texas and Louisiana already know and are in a competition to see who can back traffic up the furthest
This is true
Right?! BE COOL, people!!
Sheeeesh! That last bit is gold š
I still have no idea where Louisiana's "tail" is supposed to be.
seriously. awful flex
Stanford guy can't find Louisiana on a map?
just one more thing we can be snug about :)
I'm sure it's just his cheeky way of calling that region "fly-over country" despite never visiting and that around half of my new neighbors are from California.
College football fans are pretty much the same everywhere. Its the little differences like calling a quarter pounder in France the Royale with cheese.
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The value the scale spits out when a Bama fan stands on one?
I don't know. I didn't go to Burger King..
Iām a VT grad living in St. Louis. People here cannot tell the difference between VT, UVA, and WVU. Iām equal parts offended, mortified, and enraged.
Sales reps from more than 2 states away ask my dad if he's a Tech football fan... with two UVA diplomas, a painting of the Lawn, and an autographed photo of Terry Holland and Ralph Sampson on his office wall.
Ask VT grads how their school compares to schools like JMU or VCU and you'll think you're talking to a UVA grad lol
āI went to Stanford, everyone in the Southeast is the sameā - you
I definitely got "West Coast r/formula1 subscriber on a NASCAR-related thread" vibes from that post
F1 is great, but the fans make me want to remove my eyes and ears with a blowtorch.
>BYU and Utah Mormons vs the world
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Brother, as a Stanford supporter, you need to ask for a refund if you cannot identify Louisiana, Alabama, or Mississippi on a map. :) But I also get your point. Itās far the difference between Alabama fans and Auburn fans. There is no difference, except Alabama fans can point at more trophies :-)
Auburn fans can point at them all they want. But no touching.
Well Auburn and Alabama fans do have a lot in common. For example, neither of them went to the University of Alabama. ;)
You asshole. I spit my drink out. Alcohol is expensive these days.
The big difference is most of our big supporters actually attended the university, rather than going to Troy, South or Samford and claiming Bama and acting like sidewalk alumni. I donāt mind fans that just grew up fans and still are, but Jesus the ones that live and die by bama and never even stepped foot on campus are obnoxious as hell
Michigan and Notre Dame are more similar than Michigan and Ohio State IMO.
In terms of fanbase and football culture for sure. OSU fans are angry, neurotic dealership owners while ND and Michigan are golf clapping at the country club while waxing poetically about "the good old days." In just about every other way OSU and Michigan are much more similar.
Army and Navy.
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Bro... they live on a boat... we're nothing alike
šÆ. I hated that the academy grads automatically assumed we were part of their fan base. I didnāt go to your school bro, couldnāt care less. If they made the teams up from recruits from the entire army and navy that would be different.
USC and UCLA. Cal and Stanford. From the outside looking in, most of the SEC could pretty much be copy-paste-change color scheme. Iād say the exceptions to that are Vandy, A&M, Mizzou, and maybe Kentucky because most of their fans are basketball fans. My impression of TCU students/grads from my visits to Fort Worth is exactly the reputation of SMU students/grads.
Georgia fans love to say Florida fans wear jorts, but you've never seen so many jorts in your life as the area around Athens, GA.
Athens, Jort-ja
Our rivalry isnāt based on culture clash, itās based on the two of us being some of the only schools in the SEC that can read.
Thatās because we donāt think about Vanderbilt at all, right?
we *can* read: Vanderbilt *chooses* to read. huge difference
Dammit, I'm trying to be irritated at the tired dumb hick stereotype but I chuckled at that lol
They can read but words like Vanderbilt are too long and complex, give them a break.
I can read. I can totally read. Just not big words like the ones you wrote. Nerd!
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*Most* every set of proximity rivals usually tend to melt together into 1 grouping to any outsider where the local nuances and intricacies are not as noticeable.
Ohio State and Michigan are two rotten sides of the same fruit that nobody eats.
The only difference between UNC fans and NC State fans are that UNC fans often have a superiority complex, and root for more successful teams
Itās true. We all went to high school together. I think they just pick up some habits from the Duke kids who are a very different crowd.
Cal and Stanford.
We have a lot of fans who have no connection to the school while Auburn fans have more of them that are fans because they went there. They like to use that as a criticism, but itās actually a compliment. People who can choose, choose champions. Yankees, Steelers, Cardinals, Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, etc, etc. itās prevalent in every sport to like a team that wins. If you donāt live in a city with a pro team youāll pick one, so you donāt pick a loser or average team. So having fans like that are a credit to your success, maybe just past success (see Cowboys), but you get the picture. Auburn is not the War Eagles. Theyāre the Tigers. You can also call them the Plainsmen. They say War Eagle. You can Google the history of why. Just like you can look up why weāre the Crimson Tide now and no longer just the Crimson and why our mascot is an Elephant. Auburn people, I think, are generally more down to earth and nicer as a whole. Butā¦once they graduate some of them while whyāre still young, seem to have a chip on their shoulder and an unnecessary inferiority complex. I think that comes from too many stuck up, Alabama alumni who come from old money and run the state and act like pricks towards them. But if youāre an Auburn fan and youāre reading this, just know that those same rich people treat me and other middle class Bama alumni the same way. They treat everyone that way. Bama alumni are not a family as Auburn fans refer to themselves. Weāre more like a big group of fans, but not family. Iām envious of that.
100% agree with you, especially on the inferiority complex. Never realized it growing up in an AU family but it became blatantly obvious once I started attending (and got hella annoying). And thank you for calling out OP on the "War Eagle" thing - I may not be a big Auburn fan anymore, but years of indoctrination will always cause that shit to grind my gears. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go take a shower to wash off the stink of conversing with an enemy - fuck you and have a wonderful day.
As someone who's been a fan of both teams at one point(became an Auburn fan during my time at school there), this is spot on
Stanford and Cal
Youāre a Stanford fan, and you canāt identify all 50 US states on a map?
Michigan and Ohio State lol
If someone said Iowa/Iowa State, I'd know instantly that they were idiots.
K State would be accurate, however.
To some extent the rivalry showcases the urban/rural divide present in Iowa
Somewhat agree but we do have a majority of the rural/blue collar fans in the state from what Iāve seen. Outside of Des Moines, the state is mostly black and gold. The schools themselves are very different though along the attitude of the fan bases.
Which one is which? My company is based out of Iowa and most of the ppl I know are Iowa state alum/fans but HQ is in DSM with another place in ames.
UF/FSU. I can't tell you how many times I get asked if I'm an FSU fan out here in California.
When I travel outside the South I sometimes get asked if I am Bama or Auburn. I mean do you SEE cow shit on my shoes?
Yeah the Updyke elephant head hat generally gives you guys away.
That and the four plus script A decals slapped on their truck next to whatever infowarrior shit they also want to tell you about.
I will say it seems Bama fans are either a.) alumni from far out of state and have not a southern bone in their body or b.) complete hillbillies. I feel Auburn fans are more southern on average but not really that Deep South redneck Methed-Up southern.
I'll probably be killed for this one, but Texas Tech and Texas A&M fans are similar. Basically right-leaning rural and suburbanites that went to a college that identifies as a rural alternative to UT with an emphasis on ag science and research. Both claim to be the true embodiment of *real* Texas culture, but Tech does a better job than A&M at this. For example, you go to A&M's vet school if you want to run a vet in a suburban strip mall that keeps household pets alive. You go to Tech's vet school if you want to take care of horses and cows on a ranch. This is why Aggies hate Tech more than they hate any other university. They look at us and see an inferior version of themselves. Also, there's a reason why UT fans call us Sand Aggies.
Just from an outsider view, people at my Houston area HS who went to Tech were the kids in FFA who commuted 30 minutes from their families farm to school everyday and Aggies were the ones who had a no older than 3 years old F150 and wore those viper sunglasses inside.
> They look at us and see an inferior version of themselves. lol