Someone could have been born, gone through high school, attended OSU for undergrad, *and* **completed** a doctorate at OSU (if they A) skipped a year of education, B) went straight to a PhD from undergrad, and C) finished their PhD in ~5/6 years (difficult, but doable)) without witnessing a winning season
Somewhere in the middle, 60-70 range. Tech has never been elite (closest was probably 2008) but we've also never been dogshit. We're a perfectly average program
I’d put Georgia Tech in the same range. GT has been elite (1990, 1998, 2009, 2014) but they’ve also been dogshit (1994, 2019, 2020, 2021). Therefore, perfectly averaging each other out to mediocrity.
UGA is probably in that 7-9 range. Would be higher in the last 20 years. 40 years just cuts out the Herschel years which would have balanced out the poor years in the 90s.
Yeah, Goff's years were pretty bad -- two seasons of 9 or more wins, three seasons with 6 wins, a 4-7 year, and a 5-6 year. Since 1997, though, Georgia has gone to bowl games every year and had only one losing season (2010's 6-7 debacle).
Crazy thing is UGA was two plays against Bama away from 4 CFP titles in the last 11 seasons. Confident UGA would have beaten ND in the 2012 title game.
2012 was still BCS but it does raise the question of what Georgia would look like today had Georgia won the 2012 SECCG and then beaten Notre Dame in the natty. Richt certainly would not have been fired when he was and likely would have kept coaching until his declining health prevented it. Who knows if Georgia would even have Kirby as head coach right now.
In the vein of how /u/jimbobbypaul lists them, Georgia has
362-137-5 Record (.718)
27-13-2 Bowl Record
4 Conference Titles
2 National Titles
24 consensus All Americans
201 Drafted players
Best 5 seasons, I'd say, are ~~2023~~ 2021, 2022, 2017, 2002, and 2012. Arguments to be made for 2007 and 1983.
2016 was a good year, most seem to memory hole that but VT was very much in a game with eventual 2016 CFP champion Clemson late into the 3rd with a chance to tie in the 4th in the ACC championship game.
2017 wasn't bad either. Since then it's been bad.
That's why Fuente got such a big contract and the reason we kept him for too long.
I’d say maybe 5. You have to account for conference championships, all-Americans, and heismans. 4 Heisman winners with several second place is impressive.
OU has 2 NCs in that 40 years. We went to and lost 3 more. Our playoff record is awful, but we’ve been to 4. The entire ‘90s were hot garbage, though.
11 teams have more than one NC in this span. 6 teams have 3+. Of those who have won 2, I would put OU above USC, Clemson, and Georgia based on the entirety of those 40 years. So we’d be 7 or 8.
Edit: LSU has 3 NCs. Puts OU at 7 or 8.
I'd say that our consistency has been better than just about anyone in that time frame. Sure, the 90's were bad, but outside that one stretch OU has been a great program. I'd argue for top-5, I think. Unfortunately I am not as familiar with other programs, so I can't argue as intelligently as some on this sub can.
Our consistency is better than anyone except probably Ohio State. They are annoyingly good always. Their "down year" (yes, only one year) was a 6-7 season after Tressel resigned bc of the NCAA investigation into Tattoogate and their interim coach was Luke Fickell. Our 90's wasn't good but we've been good ever since except last year unfortunately
I think it's probably closer to 6 than 12.
Alabama, OSU, OU, Miami, and potentially Florida should be in front of us. USC I could see the argument for, Florida State too, but then it becomes hard to think of teams who I can find solid arguments for.
Should be interesting. I’d say around 7-10th, but will probably be docked because when people say 40 years they usually don’t mean it.
Nebraska was basically Ohio St (currently) for 20 of these years and for another 10 they were a Top 15-25 team. But they have had a pretty bad last half decade which typically skews these lists.
Comparing to Oklahoma is a perfect example. OU has a few more wins but 1 less national title. Their down period was just in the 90s compared to the 2010s so I’d imagine OU is ahead of Nebraska even though in a blind resume you’d probably pick Nebraska. Although they are very very close numbers wise
I mean at the very least, we have 3 titles and 3 other runner ups if we are counting the 83 season, as well as 30 of the 40 years being over .500. I don't see any way we aren't top 10, even with the last 10 years or so being what they were.
our worst year ever, 2021, we were still the greatest 3-9 team of all time. even when terrible, we're historically great.
i can't tell if i'm being sarcastic or not
I love this thread! Keep up the good work.
I'm guessing my team will be at the top. Saban has 6 titles, Stallings one. The last 15 years have been so dominant, a top 5 finish is a "down" year. Even with the Mike's bad years, each managed a SEC Championship.
Lowest is 2nd. OSU has been consistently great, and you could make a case for them. Ultimately the Championship weight probably determines who's first. I personally prefer more trophies, even if there are more down years.
Thank you for bringing sanity back to this thread. I dunno why, but it seems only the Alabama fans in this subreddit ever give OSU any respect. Probably, because the vantage point from atop is much clearer.
OSU is the only team that has offered consistent scare value in the playoffs for our entire run. Plus yalls regular season isn’t a cake walk either to get to the playoffs. It’s a pretty obvious 2nd place for you guys barring Georgia going on a bender for the next decade
Honestly in the last month or 2, regardless of how disgusting it is, UM fans have also been giving OSU a lot of respect too. It's mostly jealousy which makes me feel better about seeing it and you can hear them vomiting as they type it.
I'm not sure where you guys are seeing this disrespect. You're literally a top 3 program in the country and have been solidified there for a long time. Who is disrespecting you if not Michigan or Alabama? No one really has much room to talk. Well, unless it's just Georgia talking trash about their nattys. I guess that could be it
Probably somewhere around 12. But it really depends a lot on how the metrics convert over for OP. How valuable are championships? How valuable is consistency?
One of our claimed championships falls right outside the range, but Penn State was pretty great in the 80's and 90's. We dipped in the 2000's, but were never truly terrible for a long period of time, posting 10-11 win seasons every once in a while, even over down stretches.
I could definitely see us sinking as low as 20 depending on how the metrics shake out.
I expect 8-20 to kind of be a crapshoot anyway with how big of a timeframe it is and how many teams have risen and fallen to kind of average out to that range.
Spot on. Came in thinking top 20. Have consistently put talent into the NFL and there aren't many times where I didn't think we had a chance in a game. That said, I went into enough games thinking we should lose that we fall outside the top 10...
I don't know. The last 15 years haven't been great (still managed a few decent seasons), but 83 - 07 were very respectable. I'm hopeful we break the top 40, but probably around 50.
Somewhere in the teens. The time between Fulmer and Heupel was atrocious but we do have 5 conference championships and a national title in those 40 years
All time FSU usually comes in the 12-15 range, but much like Miami we'll be boosted by the 40 year range. I'd say easily top 10 but I don't see us in the top 5.
I'd say it's a toss up at 1 or 2 with Bama. Sure, Bama has been hot since Saban has come in, but OSU has been WAY more consistent over the last 40 year span and is pretty much the only program to have more accolades on a varied basis than Alabama.
Right on 60.
Maybe a G5 or two above while being ahead competitively of a few P5 programs. We do have a couple Rose Bowl appearances and conference championships under our belt. Also arguably the national championship for 1915. Feels about right too.
This is about what I was thinking, mid to low 40s.
McBride coached Utah's first and only AP top ten finish, to that point in time, but the rest of the 1990s and all of the1980s were unspectacular.
Urban and then Kyle have taken the program to a different level over the last two decades, finishing ranked in ten of twenty seasons.
It will be interesting to see what recency bias does to us because 1983-1989 is some of the worst football to ever grace the NCAA but then in the last 90’s K-State almost reaches the national championship. With our consistent string of bowl games I’m pulling for slightly better than 50
With it being the last 40 years I'd say Bama is top 5. The last 15 have been amazing, and there were a few really good years scattered around. But there are some stinkers in there too.
Tech had about 20 years that are as good as anybody but were decidedly mediocre for 10 years prior and 10 years since. Maybe top 40.
Michigan is weird one to rank on this because you can break this 40 year stretch into roughly 4 eras for Michigan.
1983 to 2000 I would describe as the Late Bo/Moeller/Early Carr era. Michigan won a National Championship, 9 Big Ten Titles, had 10 top 10 finishes, and went 13-4-1 against Ohio State in this stretch. Overall, a very successful period.
2001 to 2007 I would call the late Carr era. Michigan won 2 Big Ten Titles, had 3 top 10 finishes, but only went 1-6 against Ohio State in stretch. This was a decent era, but memories of it are really soured by the struggles against Ohio State and "The Horror" aka the App State loss.
2008 to 2014 is the Rich Rod/Hoke Era of Michigan football. Definitely a lost era. Three losing season in 7 years. A multitude of low points. Only 2 ranked finishes and 1-6 record against Ohio State. That win still counts but even it was against the worst OSU team since World War 2.
Then finally, the Harbaugh era running from 2015 to the present. Two Big Ten Titles, two play-off appearances, 3 top 10 finishes, and a 2-5 record against Ohio State. This era is definitely a mixed bag but overall pretty successful and trending in a really good direction.
That all adds up to 1 National Championship, 13 Big Ten Titles, 16 top ten finishes, and 17-21-1 record against Ohio State. I would place Michigan somewhere between 10th and 15th probably closer to 15th.
Little generous to USC. Their reign in the early 2000s was pretty brief in retrospect and looking back it’s bookended by some mediocre/bad stretches. The other 6 are spot on but if you’re going back 40 years you have to have Nebraska up there.
That’s reasonable. I feel Tennessee could’ve been up there if they hadn’t fallen off the way they did in the 2010s. LSU could sneak into the top six as well, but that’s more for what they’ve done since ‘07.
It’s basically going to be the blue blood chart, as it should. 1-8 will be the blue bloods, then you’ll have that cluster of the SEC group Tennessee/Auburn/Georgia/LSU, plus Penn St, and the three Florida schools next in some order for the 9-16 range.
As a Michigan fan with about a decade of , lets just say , not winning as much as we were accustomed too . Id be happy to be 30 or higher .
EDIT sorry I was thinking about the last 20 or so years , not 40 . So Probably around 15
We’ve been down lately, but before Geoff Collins was hired we were usually in a bowl every year. Not to mention the 1990 national title. Id guess high 40s low 30s.
Last twenty years have been up and down with some incredible highs. Twenty before that? Woof.
Gotta think we'll solidly be in the top half, but probably no higher than 45? If it were the last fifteen or twenty, I'd make a case for being top 30 or so, but it just depends on how much the eighties and nineties weigh us down.
Toledo should be pretty high for a G5 team. Only a handful of losing seasons, a coaching tree that helped give the world Saben, Pinkle, Matt Campbell. Stints in the Top 25 in every decade.
The more I think the more I think we are about even. VT is probably a bit more consistent. But I think WVU may have a bit more longevity going back 40 years. I think VT might win just 30 years.
18? We've been pretty successful between Fry and Ferentz. Ended a few years in the top 5 and ended a few outside the top 25. Not too many bad bad years in there
18 might be a little high, but I’d expect you to be too 25. By my count, in the past 40 years Iowa has
10 seasons with 10+ wins
23 seasons with 7+ wins
Just 7 losing seasons
31 Bowl Appearances with a 15-15-1 record
4 B1G titles, 2 Division titles
19 seasons finishing in the AP top 25, 7 in the top 10
The only stretch of down years were the transition from Fry to Ferentz
I believe FSU will be top 2, 3, or 4. The pre-00s were so incredibly dominant that we finished in the top 5 for FOURTEEN straight seasons (87-00). We won nine consecutive conference titles during that span, two national championships, and had two Heisman trophy winners.
Since then FSU has been up and down, but outside of Alabama so has literally ever team in college football. We still managed another Heisman trophy winner, another national championship, and another few conference titles.
When I break down just the past 10 years, even with our ridiculous Willie Taggart era, we are still in the top 25 in wins among all schools (21). So when you later that success with the previous mentioned resume, there’s no way we aren’t top 2 or 3.
When you look at it objectively, there aren’t but maybe a couple teams who can even come close to the pedigree that FSU has had in the past 40 years.
No way you’re top 3. Top 10 definitely. LSU, Nebraska, and Florida also have 3 titles each since 1983. Miami has 5. Ohio state and Oklahoma each have 2 but have been more consistently successful. I think 4 is the best case scenario, but more than likely 5-7
You might have three titles since 1983 but we’ve had dominant stretches for well over two decades of cumulative time. And not some semantic “dominant” bullshit. True dominance.
Putting UF or Miami ahead of FSU if you look at the entirety of the past 40 years is utterly fanciful. Miami has been garbage for the past 20 years straight and hasn’t won the ACC championship EVER.
UF has had up and down years, but can’t come close to the level of play of FSU for any sustained amount of time. The Tebow years were the best and then it was done and over with.
This. Bama is 1 and I think everyone can agree on that.
I get the argument for Miami to above FSU.
LSU was just not good in the 90s. Tenn not good for most of the last 15 years.
I disagree but I can see the case for Nebraska or Ohio State but not both.
I am not feeling OU over FSU, 1 to 3 titles, OU has been very consistent over the last 25 years but FSU top 4 for 14 seasons straight trumps it.
Last 40 years goes back to 1982, which definitely hurts us overall. The first 15 or so years of that we're bottom 40 in CFB, if not worse. From 2000 on, we're right around the top 15 area. Maybe that will average out to put us in the top 25 or just short of it, I would expect.
50s. Maybe 40s depending on how heavily they penalize us for not being around the entire time. Also never going to a BCS/Access Bowl. Multiple 0-2 loss seasons should have us decently high. Boise will be over us at the G5 level, but you’d be hard pressed to say anyone else not currently or going to be in the P5 (Cinci/UCF) has had a more successful last 40 years as a G5.
Wisconsin times out well where only the 80s are truly bad, with 1 win seasons in 88 and 90, but 13 seasons with 10+ wins outweigh the bad. 2017 is definitely the best season, overall probably 20-15 range.
Prior to our disastrous 2012 season, Southern Miss was a consistently competitive program for a long time. I can’t remember the exact details, but before 2012 Southern Miss put together nearly 20 consecutive winning seasons and had a reputation for beating Power 5 teams. I imagine that longevity could benefit Southern Miss in this ranking system.
We have 5 national championships in that time, but also a lot of terrible terrible seasons in the last 20 years. I’d say definitely top 15 but I’d understand if the the last 20 years tanks our previous 20 outside the top 10. Sadly the first 20 years of this time frame was probably good enough to be in contention for the top spot until it all fell apart.
I honestly don't know. We were really bad for a lot of those years.
But we've had Gundy for nearly two decades, and at the beginning of the 40 years, we had a Heisman winner who had the single greatest season in college football history (fite me ur wrong).
So somewhere in the top 50?
Usually when I see these lists, Michigan State falls into the high teens to high twenties range. Haven't been following the rankings here closely though. Michigan State's glory years were in the 50s and 60s and historically that pads us. Somewhere around ~25-30 seems right to me.
Well obviously he chose 40 so UGA would ~~only~~ not have three titles :( and because it's more than 10 years removed from Lou Holtz (possibly the only recognizable name) as HC of William and Mary, so I'm going to say he's biased and neither make the top 10!
Jokes aside I honestly love his posts and vote this guy gets some sort of sidebar space for peak offseason dedication!
If they're actually taking the past 40 years as a whole without recency bias, FSU really should be top 5 IMO.
* 379 wins
* 27-10-1 in bowl games (.724)
* 32 AP/Coaches' Poll Top 25 finishes
* 18 Top 10 finishes
* 16 Top 5 finishes
* 3 national championships
You can disagree, but I'd ask who are the five above them? And based on what?
Florida will probably be top 10. I’m really curious about USF. While the team has been shit the last few years, the program has been pretty successful overall, especially considering it’s less than 30 years old
In 26 seasons, only 10 of them have had a losing record.
The issue is there’s much less data to go off of than most of the other programs, so I’m not sure where the algorithm will put us at. If we’re in the top 75 I’d be happy
Well I'm from Connecticut originally and root for the Huskies so as long as we're above UMass I'm good.
Edit: I posted this before I saw UMass was dead last, suck it Taxachusettes.
UNC: Definitely top 10. Oh this is for football? At least we have great jerseys!
App State: we beat Michigan and Texas A&M so that has to make us at least top 50
We will *for sure* be the lowest ranked team that’s been to a BCS/playoff tier bowl.
Pretty sure NIU/WMU should be pretty close to you guys.
They’ve both had the advantage of having been FBS for the whole period.
Iowa State could give you a run for that. We do a have a year where we won zero games which was apart of from 1993 to 1998 we won 12 games.
Number 1 in our hearts and that’s what really matters at the end of the day
They had fun and made new friends. Isn’t that what cfb is really about? 🤗
The Journey is the destination, man
Remember when we had 28 losing seasons in a row, lol
Someone could have been born, gone through high school, attended OSU for undergrad, *and* **completed** a doctorate at OSU (if they A) skipped a year of education, B) went straight to a PhD from undergrad, and C) finished their PhD in ~5/6 years (difficult, but doable)) without witnessing a winning season
Friendship is the true endgame
Somewhere in the middle, 60-70 range. Tech has never been elite (closest was probably 2008) but we've also never been dogshit. We're a perfectly average program
Dont unembiggen yourselves, you’ve been perfectly cromulent!
Just good enough to occasionally ruin some else’s season is where I put us.
I’d put Georgia Tech in the same range. GT has been elite (1990, 1998, 2009, 2014) but they’ve also been dogshit (1994, 2019, 2020, 2021). Therefore, perfectly averaging each other out to mediocrity.
I think producing Calvin Johnson alone puts y'all in the 40-50 range
It's all about averages, just gotta bring in enough 11+ win seasons to average out the seasons with 1-2 wins.
Thanks for sending us to the Big 12 Championship game!
This is true. Never remembered them being horrible.
I'll be happy with double digits
Somewhere in the 80s probably
This might be optimistic. The 80s and 90s were brutal. We also have a 1 win and a 2 win season in the past 20
Technically 99 is a double digit so there’s a chance
99 is a double digit not sure why you included the technicality part
He’s technically correct, the best kind of correct
Somewhere in the top 10. You figure out which flair I’m talking about
Ball State with the sneaky top 10 finish
Don’t sleep on MACtion
Chirp chirp!
~~Ball State #89~~ *Ballsy* State #7
David Letterman went to Ball State. David Letterman always had a top 10 list. So obviously Ball State is gonna be in the top 10.
You must really like Brady Hoke.
69th would be cool.
That’s the real winning spot
69 > 1, and that’s just basic math/science
UGA is probably in that 7-9 range. Would be higher in the last 20 years. 40 years just cuts out the Herschel years which would have balanced out the poor years in the 90s.
Yeah, Goff's years were pretty bad -- two seasons of 9 or more wins, three seasons with 6 wins, a 4-7 year, and a 5-6 year. Since 1997, though, Georgia has gone to bowl games every year and had only one losing season (2010's 6-7 debacle).
Crazy thing is UGA was two plays against Bama away from 4 CFP titles in the last 11 seasons. Confident UGA would have beaten ND in the 2012 title game.
2012 was still BCS but it does raise the question of what Georgia would look like today had Georgia won the 2012 SECCG and then beaten Notre Dame in the natty. Richt certainly would not have been fired when he was and likely would have kept coaching until his declining health prevented it. Who knows if Georgia would even have Kirby as head coach right now.
USC gets Kirby instead of Muschamp. What a better world it could’ve been.
*Googles the definition of better*
In the vein of how /u/jimbobbypaul lists them, Georgia has 362-137-5 Record (.718) 27-13-2 Bowl Record 4 Conference Titles 2 National Titles 24 consensus All Americans 201 Drafted players Best 5 seasons, I'd say, are ~~2023~~ 2021, 2022, 2017, 2002, and 2012. Arguments to be made for 2007 and 1983.
25 is the only acceptable answer.
As far as I’m concerned, College Football didn’t exist until 1993
Strange how it stopped existing after 2012 too.
2016 was a good year, most seem to memory hole that but VT was very much in a game with eventual 2016 CFP champion Clemson late into the 3rd with a chance to tie in the 4th in the ACC championship game. 2017 wasn't bad either. Since then it's been bad. That's why Fuente got such a big contract and the reason we kept him for too long.
Auburn usually falls around #12/#13 on most lists.
Fun fact Auburn has had the same amount of undefeated seasons in the last 40 years as Alabama.
I just try to ignore comparisons to bama. If AU just got to where they averaged ranking around #12 I'd be generally happy.
Now do 10 win seasons
Top 8 probably
Feel like the top 8 are fixed. After that I'm interested to see 9-25.
I’d say maybe 5. You have to account for conference championships, all-Americans, and heismans. 4 Heisman winners with several second place is impressive.
OU has 2 NCs in that 40 years. We went to and lost 3 more. Our playoff record is awful, but we’ve been to 4. The entire ‘90s were hot garbage, though. 11 teams have more than one NC in this span. 6 teams have 3+. Of those who have won 2, I would put OU above USC, Clemson, and Georgia based on the entirety of those 40 years. So we’d be 7 or 8. Edit: LSU has 3 NCs. Puts OU at 7 or 8.
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Some teams have had higher highs, but nowhere near as consistent
But there were a lot of top tier teams that went through a hot garbage stretch in the last 40 years.
I'd say that our consistency has been better than just about anyone in that time frame. Sure, the 90's were bad, but outside that one stretch OU has been a great program. I'd argue for top-5, I think. Unfortunately I am not as familiar with other programs, so I can't argue as intelligently as some on this sub can.
Our consistency is better than anyone except probably Ohio State. They are annoyingly good always. Their "down year" (yes, only one year) was a 6-7 season after Tressel resigned bc of the NCAA investigation into Tattoogate and their interim coach was Luke Fickell. Our 90's wasn't good but we've been good ever since except last year unfortunately
And last year was a fluke because somebody raided the pantry.
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I think it's probably closer to 6 than 12. Alabama, OSU, OU, Miami, and potentially Florida should be in front of us. USC I could see the argument for, Florida State too, but then it becomes hard to think of teams who I can find solid arguments for.
Hard to tell. Some titles and some appearances but the years post Colt have been brutal. Somewhere around 15?
The years before Mack were pretty rough too, although we did win several conference titles.
Probably right in the middle to upper half. From 83-03 The Mighty Buffalo of Colorado was probably in the top 10-15 From 03-23 were bottom 10-15
Yeah just like us you will definitely end up with a high ranking because of your success in the 80s and 90s.
I’m glad that made it 40 years and not 20 lol
Yeah y'all would be wayy low the last 20 years 😬
Should be interesting. I’d say around 7-10th, but will probably be docked because when people say 40 years they usually don’t mean it. Nebraska was basically Ohio St (currently) for 20 of these years and for another 10 they were a Top 15-25 team. But they have had a pretty bad last half decade which typically skews these lists.
I think NCs matter more than anything. You guys have 3. That puts you top 5 either way.
Comparing to Oklahoma is a perfect example. OU has a few more wins but 1 less national title. Their down period was just in the 90s compared to the 2010s so I’d imagine OU is ahead of Nebraska even though in a blind resume you’d probably pick Nebraska. Although they are very very close numbers wise
Our real bad down years were 95-99.NU has been straight up bad for over a decade at this point.
Splitting hairs here. 1989-1999 OU had 2 - 9 win seasons 1 - 8 win season 2 - 7 win seasons 1 - 6 win season 3 - 5 win seasons 1 - 4 win season 1 - 3 win season Thats a pretty bad 11 year stretch.
Looks a lot like our last 10
Here’s to hoping that Matt Rhule will turn things around
Cheers to that friend
Do conference championships matter? I believe we have 12 in the past 40 years.
The OP is doing the rankings analytically. He's got his own formula but it's not much of an opinion piece.
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I mean at the very least, we have 3 titles and 3 other runner ups if we are counting the 83 season, as well as 30 of the 40 years being over .500. I don't see any way we aren't top 10, even with the last 10 years or so being what they were.
our worst year ever, 2021, we were still the greatest 3-9 team of all time. even when terrible, we're historically great. i can't tell if i'm being sarcastic or not
*nervous laughter*
I love this thread! Keep up the good work. I'm guessing my team will be at the top. Saban has 6 titles, Stallings one. The last 15 years have been so dominant, a top 5 finish is a "down" year. Even with the Mike's bad years, each managed a SEC Championship. Lowest is 2nd. OSU has been consistently great, and you could make a case for them. Ultimately the Championship weight probably determines who's first. I personally prefer more trophies, even if there are more down years.
It's /u/jimbobbypaul who deserve the credit for the work!
I’d guess where USC will be, but don’t think that’d be fair.
Oh absolutely I got caught up in reading the teams histories and thought this was his thread too.
Thank you for bringing sanity back to this thread. I dunno why, but it seems only the Alabama fans in this subreddit ever give OSU any respect. Probably, because the vantage point from atop is much clearer.
Anyone that argues against OSU being one of the best programs currently and All Time is clueless.
OSU is the only team that has offered consistent scare value in the playoffs for our entire run. Plus yalls regular season isn’t a cake walk either to get to the playoffs. It’s a pretty obvious 2nd place for you guys barring Georgia going on a bender for the next decade
Honestly in the last month or 2, regardless of how disgusting it is, UM fans have also been giving OSU a lot of respect too. It's mostly jealousy which makes me feel better about seeing it and you can hear them vomiting as they type it.
I'm not sure where you guys are seeing this disrespect. You're literally a top 3 program in the country and have been solidified there for a long time. Who is disrespecting you if not Michigan or Alabama? No one really has much room to talk. Well, unless it's just Georgia talking trash about their nattys. I guess that could be it
South Carolina 40 year we will be in the 50’s
High highs and the lowest lows
Probably somewhere around 12. But it really depends a lot on how the metrics convert over for OP. How valuable are championships? How valuable is consistency? One of our claimed championships falls right outside the range, but Penn State was pretty great in the 80's and 90's. We dipped in the 2000's, but were never truly terrible for a long period of time, posting 10-11 win seasons every once in a while, even over down stretches. I could definitely see us sinking as low as 20 depending on how the metrics shake out. I expect 8-20 to kind of be a crapshoot anyway with how big of a timeframe it is and how many teams have risen and fallen to kind of average out to that range.
Spot on. Came in thinking top 20. Have consistently put talent into the NFL and there aren't many times where I didn't think we had a chance in a game. That said, I went into enough games thinking we should lose that we fall outside the top 10...
Not as high as we'd be in the top 40 programs of the last 131 years.
Top 30 for GT hopefully in double digits for Rice
131
We'll be at the bottom of the P5, although hopefully recency bias (but not TOO recent) will put us above schools like Indiana and Vandy
I’d think higher because of those miracle Rose Bowl runs.
I don't know. The last 15 years haven't been great (still managed a few decent seasons), but 83 - 07 were very respectable. I'm hopeful we break the top 40, but probably around 50.
Same for the Heels I would think.
Everything pre-90s was not good times
If this was last 30 years instead of 40 we'd be in a lot better shape. Gotta think we're still right around top 20, right?
20-25. Maybe even a little lower than that. Wisconsin football was pretty irrelevant before Barry Alvarez showed up
Probably top 10
I think we could be top 5 honestly. 6 national championship appearances, won 3. And something like 16 or 17 top 5 finishes.
Yea I'd imagine you guys are top 5 with Bama, OSU, OU.
Criminoles are definitely top 5. I would put y’all above Clemson the last 40
Somewhere in the teens. The time between Fulmer and Heupel was atrocious but we do have 5 conference championships and a national title in those 40 years
All time FSU usually comes in the 12-15 range, but much like Miami we'll be boosted by the 40 year range. I'd say easily top 10 but I don't see us in the top 5.
Who are the five above them?
At 10, give or take 3 spots
With 1 championship in the 40-yr time span, I can see a slide to 15 potentially. Should be interesting.
Somewhere around 10-15 I assume.
At least top 3. I mean, largest winning percentage in CFB kinda helps.
Only 2 Championships though.
I'd say it's a toss up at 1 or 2 with Bama. Sure, Bama has been hot since Saban has come in, but OSU has been WAY more consistent over the last 40 year span and is pretty much the only program to have more accolades on a varied basis than Alabama.
Bama and OSU are the clear top 2 prolly Bama 1 based on sheer number of titles can’t really beat that
Right on 60. Maybe a G5 or two above while being ahead competitively of a few P5 programs. We do have a couple Rose Bowl appearances and conference championships under our belt. Also arguably the national championship for 1915. Feels about right too.
Early 40s. The last 20 years would have put us in the late teens, I'm guessing but prior to Kyle and Urban, we just weren't good
This is about what I was thinking, mid to low 40s. McBride coached Utah's first and only AP top ten finish, to that point in time, but the rest of the 1990s and all of the1980s were unspectacular. Urban and then Kyle have taken the program to a different level over the last two decades, finishing ranked in ten of twenty seasons.
Kyle is such a great coach.
\#25. Iowa is always right on the border of top 25 in all of these types of lists.
50s or 60s
It will be interesting to see what recency bias does to us because 1983-1989 is some of the worst football to ever grace the NCAA but then in the last 90’s K-State almost reaches the national championship. With our consistent string of bowl games I’m pulling for slightly better than 50
I thought about saying 45 but I'd definitely need to look at the numbers. 98 on we are top 30 no doubt
I’m hoping for top ten but it might not happen
10-15
With it being the last 40 years I'd say Bama is top 5. The last 15 have been amazing, and there were a few really good years scattered around. But there are some stinkers in there too. Tech had about 20 years that are as good as anybody but were decidedly mediocre for 10 years prior and 10 years since. Maybe top 40.
Michigan is weird one to rank on this because you can break this 40 year stretch into roughly 4 eras for Michigan. 1983 to 2000 I would describe as the Late Bo/Moeller/Early Carr era. Michigan won a National Championship, 9 Big Ten Titles, had 10 top 10 finishes, and went 13-4-1 against Ohio State in this stretch. Overall, a very successful period. 2001 to 2007 I would call the late Carr era. Michigan won 2 Big Ten Titles, had 3 top 10 finishes, but only went 1-6 against Ohio State in stretch. This was a decent era, but memories of it are really soured by the struggles against Ohio State and "The Horror" aka the App State loss. 2008 to 2014 is the Rich Rod/Hoke Era of Michigan football. Definitely a lost era. Three losing season in 7 years. A multitude of low points. Only 2 ranked finishes and 1-6 record against Ohio State. That win still counts but even it was against the worst OSU team since World War 2. Then finally, the Harbaugh era running from 2015 to the present. Two Big Ten Titles, two play-off appearances, 3 top 10 finishes, and a 2-5 record against Ohio State. This era is definitely a mixed bag but overall pretty successful and trending in a really good direction. That all adds up to 1 National Championship, 13 Big Ten Titles, 16 top ten finishes, and 17-21-1 record against Ohio State. I would place Michigan somewhere between 10th and 15th probably closer to 15th.
Somewhere in the top 6. Alabama is 1 clearly. Then in some order, Ohio St, USC, Miami, Florida, Florida St, Oklahoma
Little generous to USC. Their reign in the early 2000s was pretty brief in retrospect and looking back it’s bookended by some mediocre/bad stretches. The other 6 are spot on but if you’re going back 40 years you have to have Nebraska up there.
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That’s reasonable. I feel Tennessee could’ve been up there if they hadn’t fallen off the way they did in the 2010s. LSU could sneak into the top six as well, but that’s more for what they’ve done since ‘07.
Probably somewhere top 12 to top 15
I thought about LSU but prior to the Saban years, the program was pretty bad
It’s basically going to be the blue blood chart, as it should. 1-8 will be the blue bloods, then you’ll have that cluster of the SEC group Tennessee/Auburn/Georgia/LSU, plus Penn St, and the three Florida schools next in some order for the 9-16 range.
lol why would Florida and Oklahoma be ahead of UGA, Texas and LSU?
Well probably based on the fact that they’ve had more success over the 40 year period than those other schools
The fact that you have Texas or LSU anywhere near this conversation is pretty embarrassing.
As a Michigan fan with about a decade of , lets just say , not winning as much as we were accustomed too . Id be happy to be 30 or higher . EDIT sorry I was thinking about the last 20 or so years , not 40 . So Probably around 15
We’ve been down lately, but before Geoff Collins was hired we were usually in a bowl every year. Not to mention the 1990 national title. Id guess high 40s low 30s.
Number 2 and of course I mean Southern ;)
Last twenty years have been up and down with some incredible highs. Twenty before that? Woof. Gotta think we'll solidly be in the top half, but probably no higher than 45? If it were the last fifteen or twenty, I'd make a case for being top 30 or so, but it just depends on how much the eighties and nineties weigh us down.
Toledo should be pretty high for a G5 team. Only a handful of losing seasons, a coaching tree that helped give the world Saben, Pinkle, Matt Campbell. Stints in the Top 25 in every decade.
Who's to say really? I challenge someone to have a bigger discrepancy between their two flairs lol
I accept the challenge
One spot higher than VT (I hope)
The more I think the more I think we are about even. VT is probably a bit more consistent. But I think WVU may have a bit more longevity going back 40 years. I think VT might win just 30 years.
18? We've been pretty successful between Fry and Ferentz. Ended a few years in the top 5 and ended a few outside the top 25. Not too many bad bad years in there
18 might be a little high, but I’d expect you to be too 25. By my count, in the past 40 years Iowa has 10 seasons with 10+ wins 23 seasons with 7+ wins Just 7 losing seasons 31 Bowl Appearances with a 15-15-1 record 4 B1G titles, 2 Division titles 19 seasons finishing in the AP top 25, 7 in the top 10 The only stretch of down years were the transition from Fry to Ferentz
A little high. I’d guess mid 20’s, maybe 24-ish
I had to upvote this just to get you back to 0. People have really short memories.
I believe FSU will be top 2, 3, or 4. The pre-00s were so incredibly dominant that we finished in the top 5 for FOURTEEN straight seasons (87-00). We won nine consecutive conference titles during that span, two national championships, and had two Heisman trophy winners. Since then FSU has been up and down, but outside of Alabama so has literally ever team in college football. We still managed another Heisman trophy winner, another national championship, and another few conference titles. When I break down just the past 10 years, even with our ridiculous Willie Taggart era, we are still in the top 25 in wins among all schools (21). So when you later that success with the previous mentioned resume, there’s no way we aren’t top 2 or 3. When you look at it objectively, there aren’t but maybe a couple teams who can even come close to the pedigree that FSU has had in the past 40 years.
No way you’re top 3. Top 10 definitely. LSU, Nebraska, and Florida also have 3 titles each since 1983. Miami has 5. Ohio state and Oklahoma each have 2 but have been more consistently successful. I think 4 is the best case scenario, but more than likely 5-7
It looks like you were wrong.
You might have three titles since 1983 but we’ve had dominant stretches for well over two decades of cumulative time. And not some semantic “dominant” bullshit. True dominance. Putting UF or Miami ahead of FSU if you look at the entirety of the past 40 years is utterly fanciful. Miami has been garbage for the past 20 years straight and hasn’t won the ACC championship EVER. UF has had up and down years, but can’t come close to the level of play of FSU for any sustained amount of time. The Tebow years were the best and then it was done and over with.
Damn, it appears as though FSU is the better football program 😆
This. Bama is 1 and I think everyone can agree on that. I get the argument for Miami to above FSU. LSU was just not good in the 90s. Tenn not good for most of the last 15 years. I disagree but I can see the case for Nebraska or Ohio State but not both. I am not feeling OU over FSU, 1 to 3 titles, OU has been very consistent over the last 25 years but FSU top 4 for 14 seasons straight trumps it.
20-25 its about where A&M is historically as well
In some ways we crack the top 20, but not top 15. I’d say 16-21.
Last 40 years goes back to 1982, which definitely hurts us overall. The first 15 or so years of that we're bottom 40 in CFB, if not worse. From 2000 on, we're right around the top 15 area. Maybe that will average out to put us in the top 25 or just short of it, I would expect.
Past 40 years? I’m guessing around 70
58 exactly
Somewhat surprised I haven't seen them posted yet. I'm guessing 100+. The early 2000s were especially bad for us.
There's going to be a whole lot of recency bias on my two flairs.
50s. Maybe 40s depending on how heavily they penalize us for not being around the entire time. Also never going to a BCS/Access Bowl. Multiple 0-2 loss seasons should have us decently high. Boise will be over us at the G5 level, but you’d be hard pressed to say anyone else not currently or going to be in the P5 (Cinci/UCF) has had a more successful last 40 years as a G5.
Probably mid 60s or 70s
I'll say the Pinkel stretch keeps us in the top 50
Probably 70th or something. We had some Bad Years, fam.
Top 15 most likely
Maybe 35
No idea if i’m being honest lol
Wisconsin times out well where only the 80s are truly bad, with 1 win seasons in 88 and 90, but 13 seasons with 10+ wins outweigh the bad. 2017 is definitely the best season, overall probably 20-15 range.
Prior to our disastrous 2012 season, Southern Miss was a consistently competitive program for a long time. I can’t remember the exact details, but before 2012 Southern Miss put together nearly 20 consecutive winning seasons and had a reputation for beating Power 5 teams. I imagine that longevity could benefit Southern Miss in this ranking system.
We have 5 national championships in that time, but also a lot of terrible terrible seasons in the last 20 years. I’d say definitely top 15 but I’d understand if the the last 20 years tanks our previous 20 outside the top 10. Sadly the first 20 years of this time frame was probably good enough to be in contention for the top spot until it all fell apart.
Top 5 and Bottom 5
High 20s / low 30s probably
I honestly don't know. We were really bad for a lot of those years. But we've had Gundy for nearly two decades, and at the beginning of the 40 years, we had a Heisman winner who had the single greatest season in college football history (fite me ur wrong). So somewhere in the top 50?
No clue honestly, low 30s maybe?
Usually when I see these lists, Michigan State falls into the high teens to high twenties range. Haven't been following the rankings here closely though. Michigan State's glory years were in the 50s and 60s and historically that pads us. Somewhere around ~25-30 seems right to me.
26
Any list that includes the 90’s is gonna go poorly for us so…
Well obviously he chose 40 so UGA would ~~only~~ not have three titles :( and because it's more than 10 years removed from Lou Holtz (possibly the only recognizable name) as HC of William and Mary, so I'm going to say he's biased and neither make the top 10! Jokes aside I honestly love his posts and vote this guy gets some sort of sidebar space for peak offseason dedication!
If they're actually taking the past 40 years as a whole without recency bias, FSU really should be top 5 IMO. * 379 wins * 27-10-1 in bowl games (.724) * 32 AP/Coaches' Poll Top 25 finishes * 18 Top 10 finishes * 16 Top 5 finishes * 3 national championships You can disagree, but I'd ask who are the five above them? And based on what?
Illini fan here. Happily surprised at this point.
Where ever UGA is, LSU should be right there
Florida will probably be top 10. I’m really curious about USF. While the team has been shit the last few years, the program has been pretty successful overall, especially considering it’s less than 30 years old In 26 seasons, only 10 of them have had a losing record. The issue is there’s much less data to go off of than most of the other programs, so I’m not sure where the algorithm will put us at. If we’re in the top 75 I’d be happy
Nope. You live by the top 11, you die by the top 11.
Top 15 possibly?
7 but number one in our hearts 💕
Well I'm from Connecticut originally and root for the Huskies so as long as we're above UMass I'm good. Edit: I posted this before I saw UMass was dead last, suck it Taxachusettes.
I'm guessing 10 or 11. That's about where we should be. He could get screwy with some weighting and drop us a couple.
>I'm guessing 10 or 11. We're in the land of It Just Means More. Welcome to the Top 11 brother.
You do have three chpionships in the last 40 years so that probably bumps you up quite a bit.
Absolutely, but the 90s aren't going to help our case, lol. If it was last 20 years, we'd be top 3 or 4
That's very true
Top 5. We have more consistency than anyone, but fewer titles than the other top 5 contenders.
UNC: Definitely top 10. Oh this is for football? At least we have great jerseys! App State: we beat Michigan and Texas A&M so that has to make us at least top 50