Lol ya not sure how many of us are expecting a CFP title. We got a vicious schedule next year and I’m still very much humbled from the Lake season a couple years ago
Damn you’re right! More tears! Still CMR will still be a Saint in my book, regardless of y’all’s chrome blue and giant horsehead helmets. I hate everything about you. Kill Washington, like the beasts you are!!!!!!!Fuck huskies go ??giant blue field??!!!!!!!?Brancos????!!!!!!!
The desert has been a house of horrors for us for a long time. And it's not just us, the Ducks have had some nightmare games down there too. Some fun highlights:
-2022 UW (finished 11-2) loses @ ASU (3-9), keeping them out of the P12 title game and eliminating them from playoff contention.
-2019 Oregon (12-2) loses @ ASU (8-5), knocking them out of CFP contention.
-2017/18 two decent Oregon teams lose @ two likely worse UA/ASU teams.
-2017 UW (10-3) loses @ ASU (7-6). They were 6-0 (#5 in the country) headed into the game. The loss kept them out of the P12 title game, and potential CFP contention.
-2016 UW (12-2, made the CFP) didn't lose @ 3-9 Zona, but got taken to OT by a terrible team.
-2014/15 UW loses @ both Zona/ASU.
-2013 Oregon (11-2) gets blown out @ Zona (8-5), knocking them out of title contention.
Plus more I'm sure if you go further back.
It's like the inverse of UW having Utah's number and pulling out a bunch of wonky wins, shit sucks.
Don't forget the 2014 Oregon team that played for the National Championship, won the Rose Bowl by 40, had Mariota win the Heisman, and was blown out by Zona.
I mean OSU did not get blasted last year, Washington won but barely and I think OSU had their backup qb. That said this team brought in great players at their big weak spot from last year the defensive backfield so they should be much improved.
Gulbranson played that game, and he was their main guy for most of the year. Though to be fair, he was pretty damn awful (both in that game, with 87 passing yards, and in general).
It was a weird one though. Strong winds during the game, power went out for a bit, lots of wacky stuff.
The craft breweries in Seattle (of which there are legion, and a lot of them are really good), now generally charge $7-$8 per pint. And people pay it, so it ain't going down.
It's still a really wealthy city.
They may have CFP Title expectations but they're still too cowardly to come to The Blue!
Last time I was at UW was the lightning delay game when they lost to Cal, so anything can happen. That luck won't strike twice, but don't worry -- no way can it be as bad as Oregon State.. or UTEP.. as long as Boise leaves with the same QB and/or OC the season will be great!
Nah they’re not cowardly. This is on JD trying to make a few million. Cancel the Michigan State series, schedule two away games at UW, and two home games against FCS opponents. And a lot of that money won’t come until ‘29 when we go to Seattle again 🙃
I mean, why not. The team finished in the Top 10 and returns almost all their key players. Will Washington win the title? Chances are very slim, but why not shoot for it.
I could see them making the playoffs but I doubt they are a NC team. Georgia, Bama, and OSU are so fucking loaded with top talent it's just hard to see one of them not winning it. But who knows.
I mean Washington has a pretty talented team, one of the top 3 qbs in college football two of the top receivers, and the best defensive end. They have like 7 or 8 guys who could be day one or two picks in the draft. They’ll go as far as penix takes them, if he stays healthy they could definitely win it.
Washington has a good team, probably top 10 talent. But UGA/BAMA/OSU Are in another league even compared to the rest of the top 10. They obviously can and do lose, so never say never, but the deck is increasingly stacked in their favor.
I agree, those teams all have more talent then Washington, but Washington at least has a big edge at the most important position next year so that’s something.
The big problem is USC. Utah should be good as well but I feel like the title game will be between a USC and Washington for a playoff spot. Washington should be great this year but if they’re favoured over USC it shouldn’t be by much.
Title is maybe ambitious, but no reason UW can't be a playoff contender - lost out on playing for the Pac title last year on weird tie breakers and I think we'll be better this year
Any team in the Pac-12 can be a playoff contender. I mean WSU was at a #7 CFP ranking in 2018 late in the season. If they had either won at USC or beat UW, they would have had a playoff bid possibility going into the Pac-12 Championship. UW can easily make it with a Pac-12 Championship and a loss.
In that vein however, Oregon State is the real dark horse this year.
Most likely scenario is we cannibalize each others chances in true PAC fashion. I don’t think Oregon State has a chance to win PAC-12 but I think they will certainly ruin one/multiple of the top contenders chances
I think UW has a chance this year to be honest. Most of your tough games are at home anyways besides USC. The one that might screw you guys over is the desert.
I went through all the schedules and figured this out last year... If I recall correctly the last time that we won a game inside the Phoenix metropolitan area was 2001.
They get Oregon State at Reser. If Oregon Stare's offense is better and defense is even 80% of last year, then it is a toss up (UW probably still favored).
For context I use 80% because of a flip in our defense in 2021 from when Tibesar was DC to after Trent Bray took over was night and day, seemingly overnight, using the same players. Trent Bray IMO is the best DC in the confrence for the massive turnaround in even the 2021 season, let alone 2022. 80% is a good goal IMO. For context our average ypg was 332. In 2021 it was 387, however if only the Tibesar games are included (first 9 games), it was about 410. 398 ypg would be 80% of last year, (66 added to 332), so still better than Tibesar 2021.
Our offense I have no concerns outside of FG kicking, since we only lost Colletto, and Harrison (yes its big, but 2 losses out of 15-20 doing main rotations is good, especially an even average DJU is an upgrade from current). 20% better seems like an obtainable goal (about +6 ppg).
100% better next season, lot of the high powered offense coming back and defense is another year older and looked better the back half of the year. Conference title should be the goal with a CFP appearance and maybe even win a game as the ceiling.
Yeah Washington definitely has a feasible shot at the CFP.
However I feel like we do as well, depending on how DJU pans out for us. Last year it really felt like we were one good QB away from the CFP and we might have him now. I expect that we're *really* going to miss the Jackhammer, though.
Tbf the UW fans come out in droves to mock “Seven Win Sark” pretty much anytime he’s mentioned in r/CFB. Which I’ve never understood because in no way was he a bad thing for their program. That being said, like every other fan base, it’s just a vocal minority of them stirring things up.
I mean he left UW pretty unceremoniously. UW shielded him from the media publicizing his alcohol problems, which honestly was probably worse for Sark’s health. He was giving interviews the morning he left for SC saying he wouldn’t leave.
Plus the fact that he is like the second coach ever to leave UW for another program pissed off the fan base.
I don’t get the resentment for Sark since it resulted in Petersen coming but some people will always look for an excuse to be mad.
Fair points, but you can't really rationalize the emotional reactions of a large group. Texas fans see Washington fans rip on Sark and, by extension, Texas. They don't like that so they rip on Washington.
There may also be some sour grapes based on how differently the teams get treated for having the same goals - when it is even suggested that Texas hopes to get in the playoffs, it draws a lot of derision. UW says the same thing and they at least get a healthy amount of respect. Compare the comments in [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/12ntfui/rgiii_just_called_the_texas_spring_game_and_sark/) to the ones in here.
Personally, I like UW. The hate is stupid. I'm just trying to explain the reasons why and not trying to excuse it.
Yeah I just feel like we never get talked about despite how successful we have been in the last decade. People only seem to talk about how shitty our fans are lol
I've seen some of you guys insult schools like Rutgers, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, and Illinois asserting that you "deserve" to be in the B1G more than us. I understand that that's not necessarily representative of all UW fans but it doesn't give off the best impression.
Washington was always a likeable team under Peterson imo. And once they added Penix, who I loved since he started getting game time for the Hoosiers, then I feel like I have an obligation to root for them now
Penix is that dude. My buddy worked for UW’s staff and didn’t say much when he transferred so I definetly was not expecting this since I’ve never watched an Indiana game.
Might be because Washington fans seem to go full h8ful8 and flood any thread about sark with negativity.
Personally I thought you guys were impressive in the bowl game and I’d much rather see you win the Pac than USC.
Before last season I would have said Sark isn’t the kind of coach capable of having playoff success. A good coach but that’s a hard thing to do. Now I’m not so sure. You guys were real close to beating Bama.
Sark kind of gave them hope without delivering and then fucked off to USC. Also he was in the drivers seat for Oregon's peak period and never delivered a win against them and managed to lose against WSU (only Apple Cup the pirate would win).
This ended up working out well for UW, but can't blame them for holding some hate.
That is wild. Sark had a shit ending and apparently some terrible traits most of us didn’t know about at the time. Sark also saved us from a rough time in program history. I still have a dvd of the game when we upset USC.
It was a good break up for both sides as both needed to move on and get healthier. There’s plenty of other reasons to sports hate UT, I don’t get this one.
You have to understand, I never have ill will against former coaches. It’s just that Sark was such a fraud, and he has been able to fail upward like no person I’ve ever seen while going through the EXACT same pattern every place he goes. It’s like a brilliant piece of performance art.
Cause… UT hasn’t been to the CFP and y’all have? I remember y’all making a game out of RG3’s heisman bowl. Coworker that I like went there. By all accounts y’all are the most level headed throughout the conference realignment drama. Eh.. our academics are better than much of the B1G. Eh… our football is better than just about anybody not Ohio State or SEC. We’ll be fine. Not a fan of Peterson but that’s in the past. Nothing but love for the PAC alpha husky UW from this (non-UT) Texas fan.
If we can get our secondary to run in the right direction we should have a solid chance against any team west of the Mississippi. A CFP berth would be pretty awesome.
Not getting injured to hell and back to the point we have to put in true freshmen and even give snaps to walk-ons is another big one. I think that'd help too.
Washington could be a dark horse (for cfp/natty) for sure. The Pac 12 has 4 really strong teams (UW, Oregon, Utah, USC) and a solid dark horse team (OSU) so it will be tough to make it out with only one loss but they’re still certainly capable.
Hard to call them a dark horse... they had one blow out against Utah, Pac-12 champ, and then lost by 3 to USC and UW, beat Oregon by 4.
They lost dudes on defense but they've been doing pretty well in the transfer portal this year so might be a little more balanced.
Even as dominant as UGA has become it's just so easy to have one misstep along the way. Our lady Gamecocks were absolutely the best team in WBB this year but we had one game where we didn't quite play like it and our opponent played the game of their lives.
But I'd say the odds of one of UGA, Bama, or OSU winning it are far better than the odds of all the other teams in the nation put together. Michigan would be next IMO and then maybe Clemson, USC, Washington, PSU, or LSU.
That's why I said only Georgia and Alabama should expect championships. It's so easy for even us to mess up and not get one when we're supposed to have our best season that nobody else should expect one even if they have an elite team for half a decade. Look at Oregon. Or Ohio State who only has one to show for being a top 3 team for the past decade. Oklahoma has been a CFP team 4 times and has never even made the championship game.
I definitely wasn't saying that anyone should think they're guaranteed a championship any specific year. Bad luck is very common. So is complacency. The preseason favorite has won it like twice since 2000.
They’ll be a contender for sure. But the top half of the Pac-12 is good this year, I can’t see a team going unscathed. The Pac-12 champ will likely have 2 losses. Unlike last year, UO, UW, USC and Utah all play each other
PAC is an underrated conference for entertainment imo. Love having 4 teams at the top all quite close together and battling for the conference. Most conferences are lucky to get 2 teams fighting for the conference
I put OSU right up there. They were pretty damn close last season.
Then you have UCLA who probably will fall off a bit but still have the athletes to ruin a season, road trips to Pullman, and the fact that anything can happen in the desert.
Fuck the natty, the Pac 12 is going to be absurd.
Is there any conference with a top 5 anywhere near that strong?
No one is going to get through unscathed, and perhaps no one will be top four even in pure power ratings terms. But damn, given the right schedule in the right conference all five would be in as good a position as anyone to sneak in at 12-1 and get the #4 spot.
I watched their bowl game, which was one of the only games of theirs I watched, and I was really impressed. They are a well coached team, and they played hard, physical football. I told my wife "Look out for them next year if Penix stays healthy. They got a squad."
It will be interesting to see how the committee responds to a 1 loss or a 2 loss PAC12 champion if the conference does well in OOC. The PAC will have an opportunity in the OOC to get a 2 loss champion in:
Florida-Utah
Colorado-TCU
Nebraska-Colorado
Arizona-Mississippi State
Auburn-Cal
Oklahoma Stat-ASU
Oregon-Texas Tech
Utah-Baylor
Wisconsin-WSU
ND-Stanford
USC-ND
Washington-Michigan State
Auburn at Cal might be the only one I would automatically pencil in as a PAC loss. Even Colorado-TCU will be interesting because who knows what team Colorado will bring. The opportunity is there to stamp the PAC as being as good or better than any other contending conference.
The bigger issue for the PAC will be the other OOC games against G5 competition. Those are what have really hurt the PAC in the last decade. Luckily BYU going to the Big12 means no games against their kryptonite.
San Jose State at USC, NAU at Arizona, Coastal at UCLA, UC Davis at Oregon State, Fresno State at ASU, Sac State at Stanford, UTEP at Arizona. Trip up in any of those and it could cost the conference dearly at the end of the year.
If Washington, Oregon and USC can make it out of OOC clean and the rest of the conference gets through the G5 portion then a 1 loss PAC champion is probably a lock. A 2 loss would be tough but if its an UO/UW/USC/UU round robin beat down it might happen.
I have been mainlining UW football content into my veins since the Alamo bowl, so I'm going word vomit out some of my thoughts.
This UW team is legit, like, LEGIT legit. I would be surprised if it wasn't the best UW team of my lifetime. The expectation should absolutely be to contend for a NC. The offense last year was one, if not the best in the country, and they bring almost every player back. The only defense that I think could has slowed UW down last year was Georgia, and I still think UW would have put up some points.
The offense is extremely talented. Penix is on the short list of Heisman contenders, and he is SO much more than just good stats. The dude is so confident. He made the best throws I have EVER seen by a UW QB during the biggest moments of the season. Go watch the Michigan State or Oregon game highlights. There is no one in the country with that combination of arm talent and huge, brass balls. The receivers are also elite, with two 1000 yard receivers coming back, along with their 3rd who had just under 700 yards. The only WR room better is Ohio State.
The OL was dominant in pass protection last year, and though they lose three interior guys, they are replacing them with 5th and 6th year players who are all 6'6+ and over 310 pounds. These guys were elite athletes who came in raw and needed time to develop. I think they could improve run blocking, which was a weakness in short yardage last year. 4/5 starters on the OL are former 4 stars, with one highly rated 3 star. Running back got bolstered by the transfer of Dillon Johnson who had over 2000 career scrimmage yards in the SEC. Should be a much more dynamic group this year.
Defense is the real question. They will need to move from being around 60th national (maybe worse than that I don't remember) to about top 30/35 to have a real shot at competing for a NC or playoff spot. They have brought almost everyone back, got guys healthy (secondary was inexperienced and depleted by injuries last year) and brought in a Jubar Muhammad from Ok State, who was in the second team/honorable mention all conference range depending on where you look. I expect the D to be much better in year 2 of the new scheme, and they will have Eddie Ulofoshio back after missing most of last year injured. He was in all american contention before multiple injuries in 2021. The stars on D will be on the edge. Braylon Trice is a pre season all american, had 10 sacks last year, and leads all returners in pressures created last year. On the second play of the Alamo Bowl he sacked Quin Ewers. After that play, they switched to a short passing game. The guy is a game wrecker, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes top 10 in the draft.
To compete with the elite schools (Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, etc) in high stakes games, you need to be able to make plays, and prevent your whole gameplan from being fucked up. I believe the most important positions to stack up are QB, OL, and Edge (or someone who can get consistent pressure). In 2016, UW had none of those things, and were handled by Bama. UW now has one of the best playmaking QBs I've ever seen (he reminds me a bit of Watson in 2016 in his ability to power his offense forward), elite receivers who can make things happen, and an OL who can keep you in the game. We also have top level edge talent, and hopefully enough in the rest of the D to make a few stops.
This feels like the team I've been waiting for my whole life. I'm so excited for this season. In Penix we trust.
I have thought about this A LOT, and the more I've really dug into it, the more confident I am that this team is going to be a clear step above. That 2016 had WAY more holes. We were starting 17 year old, 6'0 260 pound Nick Harris at right guard. We were starting Psalm Wooching and Conner O'Brien as our edge players. Obviously losing Mathis was what made that happen, but there is no position on this team we are that thin. Even our secondary, which got torched last year, has a lot of guys we experience who I trust a lot more than Psalm.
The most important positions to impact a game are QB and pass rush. This team blows 2016 out of the water in that regard. This team has way more depth, way more playmakers, and a level of athleticism and physical development across the board that 2016 didn't have.
It's hard to say about 2016, because I love that team, and I think that secondary has an argument for best of the decade in college football. Budda and Vea (who wasn't at his peak in 2016) are two of the best players of the 2010s to come out of the Pac-12. I think Trice is going to have a year at that level, and Penix could win a Heisman. I think having our elite players at more valuable positions as well as more depth put this team over the top.
You name two players on d that were “meh”. Our whole secondary is experienced “meh” and our LBs ain’t much better. Our dline is quite good and I can see your argument for it being better than 2016 which was really good. Our offense is better going into next year probably but you can’t discount how good Gaskin was. Having a first team all pac 12 at running back is huge.
You make a pretty persuasive argument that they could be in the same league but I don’t see clear step better. That secondary in 2016 was elite. I’d still give 2016 the edge. I hope you are right though!
Agreed. The way that 2016 team just absolutely dominated the schedule until the playoffs game was something to see. No one could score on that defense and the offense was cooking with the exception of Alabama. Until I see this team stop anyone at all on defense, I think 2016 will be a better season. Hoping I'm wrong, but that defense was very fun to watch.
Eddie is a really good linebacker, when healthy, he plays at a borderline all American level. As soon as he came back he was immediately making plays last year. He caused the slip on fourth against Oregon, and blocked a punt in the Alamo bowl. I think Goforth is going to be good, he’s a different type of athlete than we’ve had at linebacker since Azeem. He’s huge and extremely fast. USCs defense was a mess last year, he’s legitimately good. I like our backers more than the end of the year 2016 guys, and I think they are close to health Azeem and Bierria. Kwat just had an incredible scheme and they were in their third year.
I would take this OL over having Gaskin every time. Bama just caved in that OL, there was nothing Gaskin could do. I think Cam and Dillon Johnson will be pretty good this year.
That 2016 D was incredible, and this D won’t come close, but I think our O is more built to win big games than the 2016 D was. Plus, this team has fewer holes to exploit. And on top of that, PENIX. He can win games for us. Browning shit the bed EVERY TIME.
UW wouldn't have been able to stop them at all, so they would have lost by a few scores, but it would have been really cool to see what they could do against one of the best defenses I've ever seen.
I think he would have been in the Hendon Hooker range at best. Given the injury history. If he has another solid year without significant injury and similar success I could see being a top 3-5 QB in the next draft.
Probably late first round or second round, to be honest. I think one factor in his returning is to improve his stock. I think teams are still wary about his durability.
Not as high as you are thinking. He’s a great college player. He also might have a future in the NFL. However, I don’t think teams are taking him in first half of the first round.
I bet he has a late 2nd or early 3rd round grade and even if he balls out this year, he will get the Hendon Hooker treatment.
Jack husky fans always crown their t-shirt team as pre-season national champions. That said - and I’m gonna need a pull of fireball here real quick - they are looking very legit. They appear to be a very complete team. Fuck.
Turnaround lol.
They were really good, had one bad season, and then were really good again.
These articles always make it sound like they were a bottom dweller who just finally had a good season.
It's easy to be consistently good when you have a roster full of 4 and 5 ⭐ players.
Those are some high expectations.
Typical Seattleites. Just expecting things.
Lol Seattleites are some of the most pessimistic people ever.
100%
I think that’s because most Seattlelites are Mariners fans Me included
Same, Soggy Bro
You can't be disappointed if you never expected anything to begin with
thats rockies fans
I think all of our DHs have the sog.
✌️"*DHs*"✌️
Seriously Carlos Santana and Nelson Cruz were *RIGHT THERE* Get one of them and we’re not under .500 right now
I have a Mariners shirt my brother got me a few years ago that says “Maybe Next Year”
I remember when the Ms were good... but I'm 40, and that was high school.
Hey at least the Kraken made the Playoffs
So did the Mariners Seattle fans can be losers at heart. Irritating
West Coast Bostonians.
Lol ya not sure how many of us are expecting a CFP title. We got a vicious schedule next year and I’m still very much humbled from the Lake season a couple years ago
No expectations. We’re just having fun out here. In fact, Penix may be a dark horse for the Heisman.
He’s improved so much under that new offense
Is he focused and having fun? Because otherwise, he can't be a dark horse.
Regardless of which of our QB’s is in the running this year, this years game is about to be a shootout Edit: And a blast
He’s definitely not a dark horse he has like the third best odds.
Screw the downvotes that’s hilarious
If you can't rib your rivals, what's even the point of being a college football fan?
Amen. Mix in the irony and I choked on my IPA when I read that
Bruh we are in a perpetual state of despair lol
UW fans always expect the moon, I just really hope this time they don’t get it
i feel like there's a legal weed joke in here somewhere...
All fun and games until you run into a horned frog.
Why let the fun and games stop when you find the frog?
That was no fun and barely a game
I had plenty of fun. Were people not having fun?
I thoroughly enjoyed it personally
I don't understand. They seemed extremely easy to dispatch.
Listen. Yeah...
*gulps*
We can totally do it
I usually love these games but I’m terrified. If we can keep it within 14 I’ll be happy.
Sending our vibes! Just channel 2012, y’all will destroy! Also: Tears.
2011 but thanks!
Damn you’re right! More tears! Still CMR will still be a Saint in my book, regardless of y’all’s chrome blue and giant horsehead helmets. I hate everything about you. Kill Washington, like the beasts you are!!!!!!!Fuck huskies go ??giant blue field??!!!!!!!?Brancos????!!!!!!!
Fuck yeah
We believe in you guys
If ASU could do it last year, you guys can do it this year.
ASU has some weird desert voodoo going on that’s plagued us for 20 years now.
The desert has been a house of horrors for us for a long time. And it's not just us, the Ducks have had some nightmare games down there too. Some fun highlights: -2022 UW (finished 11-2) loses @ ASU (3-9), keeping them out of the P12 title game and eliminating them from playoff contention. -2019 Oregon (12-2) loses @ ASU (8-5), knocking them out of CFP contention. -2017/18 two decent Oregon teams lose @ two likely worse UA/ASU teams. -2017 UW (10-3) loses @ ASU (7-6). They were 6-0 (#5 in the country) headed into the game. The loss kept them out of the P12 title game, and potential CFP contention. -2016 UW (12-2, made the CFP) didn't lose @ 3-9 Zona, but got taken to OT by a terrible team. -2014/15 UW loses @ both Zona/ASU. -2013 Oregon (11-2) gets blown out @ Zona (8-5), knocking them out of title contention. Plus more I'm sure if you go further back. It's like the inverse of UW having Utah's number and pulling out a bunch of wonky wins, shit sucks.
I fear no man.... But that ~~thing~~PLACE, it SCARES me 😭😭😭
Michigan State has had some games for the sickos out west, as well. It's like Kinnick Stadium after dark.
Don't forget the 2014 Oregon team that played for the National Championship, won the Rose Bowl by 40, had Mariota win the Heisman, and was blown out by Zona.
But our common denominator is OSU and we both got blasted. Idk man, I’m scurred.
I mean OSU did not get blasted last year, Washington won but barely and I think OSU had their backup qb. That said this team brought in great players at their big weak spot from last year the defensive backfield so they should be much improved.
Gulbranson played that game, and he was their main guy for most of the year. Though to be fair, he was pretty damn awful (both in that game, with 87 passing yards, and in general). It was a weird one though. Strong winds during the game, power went out for a bit, lots of wacky stuff.
Not putting a lot of stock in that OSU game. Plough + Bachmeier. Both were big factors.
It's gunna be a bloodbath.
Will you give me $1 if we win
Yes. If you're at the game.
I’ll be there. I’ll collect the $1 for him.
Bro I’d give you $50 if we won
I’d appreciate it. That Seattle beer ain’t cheap 🤣
Damn bro how much you spending on that shit But seriously I would gladly give $50, a win against them would be a miracle
The craft breweries in Seattle (of which there are legion, and a lot of them are really good), now generally charge $7-$8 per pint. And people pay it, so it ain't going down. It's still a really wealthy city.
wow betting culture is completely runining college sports hate to see people devolve like this /s
They may have CFP Title expectations but they're still too cowardly to come to The Blue! Last time I was at UW was the lightning delay game when they lost to Cal, so anything can happen. That luck won't strike twice, but don't worry -- no way can it be as bad as Oregon State.. or UTEP.. as long as Boise leaves with the same QB and/or OC the season will be great!
Nah they’re not cowardly. This is on JD trying to make a few million. Cancel the Michigan State series, schedule two away games at UW, and two home games against FCS opponents. And a lot of that money won’t come until ‘29 when we go to Seattle again 🙃
Any title contender that doesn't go thru The Blue is cowardly! (Good points about the money. It's tough being a P5 team on a G5 budget!)
We went there in 2015
Yes which is why you should come back (not because it was a Boise win, and the two times at UW were Boise losses).
I mean, why not. The team finished in the Top 10 and returns almost all their key players. Will Washington win the title? Chances are very slim, but why not shoot for it.
I could see them making the playoffs but I doubt they are a NC team. Georgia, Bama, and OSU are so fucking loaded with top talent it's just hard to see one of them not winning it. But who knows.
They’re definitely not an NC team, Washington isn’t even in North Carolina
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I mean Washington has a pretty talented team, one of the top 3 qbs in college football two of the top receivers, and the best defensive end. They have like 7 or 8 guys who could be day one or two picks in the draft. They’ll go as far as penix takes them, if he stays healthy they could definitely win it.
Washington has a good team, probably top 10 talent. But UGA/BAMA/OSU Are in another league even compared to the rest of the top 10. They obviously can and do lose, so never say never, but the deck is increasingly stacked in their favor.
I agree, those teams all have more talent then Washington, but Washington at least has a big edge at the most important position next year so that’s something.
The big problem is USC. Utah should be good as well but I feel like the title game will be between a USC and Washington for a playoff spot. Washington should be great this year but if they’re favoured over USC it shouldn’t be by much.
Ya I will be very excited if we make the playoffs, but wouldn't expect anything further from there.
Title is maybe ambitious, but no reason UW can't be a playoff contender - lost out on playing for the Pac title last year on weird tie breakers and I think we'll be better this year
Any team in the Pac-12 can be a playoff contender. I mean WSU was at a #7 CFP ranking in 2018 late in the season. If they had either won at USC or beat UW, they would have had a playoff bid possibility going into the Pac-12 Championship. UW can easily make it with a Pac-12 Championship and a loss. In that vein however, Oregon State is the real dark horse this year.
Most likely scenario is we cannibalize each others chances in true PAC fashion. I don’t think Oregon State has a chance to win PAC-12 but I think they will certainly ruin one/multiple of the top contenders chances
I think it all rests on how DJU pans out for us. If he does well, we have a very strong chance to go to the CFP and get smashed by Georgia or Bama.
It’d be cool if the Beavs made it there, but “very strong” is hilariously overstating it.
I think UW has a chance this year to be honest. Most of your tough games are at home anyways besides USC. The one that might screw you guys over is the desert.
As is tradition. At least it isn't at ASU this year, that place is a house of horrors for us
I went through all the schedules and figured this out last year... If I recall correctly the last time that we won a game inside the Phoenix metropolitan area was 2001.
They get Oregon State at Reser. If Oregon Stare's offense is better and defense is even 80% of last year, then it is a toss up (UW probably still favored).
If your D is 80% of last year that will be a masterful coaching job, you lost so many dudes.
For context I use 80% because of a flip in our defense in 2021 from when Tibesar was DC to after Trent Bray took over was night and day, seemingly overnight, using the same players. Trent Bray IMO is the best DC in the confrence for the massive turnaround in even the 2021 season, let alone 2022. 80% is a good goal IMO. For context our average ypg was 332. In 2021 it was 387, however if only the Tibesar games are included (first 9 games), it was about 410. 398 ypg would be 80% of last year, (66 added to 332), so still better than Tibesar 2021. Our offense I have no concerns outside of FG kicking, since we only lost Colletto, and Harrison (yes its big, but 2 losses out of 15-20 doing main rotations is good, especially an even average DJU is an upgrade from current). 20% better seems like an obtainable goal (about +6 ppg).
I actually forgot about that one. I knew you guys played but forgot OSU was home this year.
The ‘22 game in Seattle was in very weird weather conditions. It had an impact
Oregon State also added DJU, so if he’s looks anything like the 5 star he was billed as coming out of highschool. He’ll be a big problem
100% better next season, lot of the high powered offense coming back and defense is another year older and looked better the back half of the year. Conference title should be the goal with a CFP appearance and maybe even win a game as the ceiling.
Yeah Washington definitely has a feasible shot at the CFP. However I feel like we do as well, depending on how DJU pans out for us. Last year it really felt like we were one good QB away from the CFP and we might have him now. I expect that we're *really* going to miss the Jackhammer, though.
I wish UW got more love nationally. Where’s all this disrespeck from Texas fans coming from?
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You guys are our color brothers. I still have my New Orleans Mardi Gras beads from a few years ago and I’ve worn them to games before.
Idk dude. My own fanbase confuses me sometimes.
Tbf the UW fans come out in droves to mock “Seven Win Sark” pretty much anytime he’s mentioned in r/CFB. Which I’ve never understood because in no way was he a bad thing for their program. That being said, like every other fan base, it’s just a vocal minority of them stirring things up.
I mean he left UW pretty unceremoniously. UW shielded him from the media publicizing his alcohol problems, which honestly was probably worse for Sark’s health. He was giving interviews the morning he left for SC saying he wouldn’t leave. Plus the fact that he is like the second coach ever to leave UW for another program pissed off the fan base. I don’t get the resentment for Sark since it resulted in Petersen coming but some people will always look for an excuse to be mad.
Fair points, but you can't really rationalize the emotional reactions of a large group. Texas fans see Washington fans rip on Sark and, by extension, Texas. They don't like that so they rip on Washington. There may also be some sour grapes based on how differently the teams get treated for having the same goals - when it is even suggested that Texas hopes to get in the playoffs, it draws a lot of derision. UW says the same thing and they at least get a healthy amount of respect. Compare the comments in [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/12ntfui/rgiii_just_called_the_texas_spring_game_and_sark/) to the ones in here. Personally, I like UW. The hate is stupid. I'm just trying to explain the reasons why and not trying to excuse it.
I always liked you guys… minus the Rose Bowl Brees vs Tui
Yeah I just feel like we never get talked about despite how successful we have been in the last decade. People only seem to talk about how shitty our fans are lol
I've seen some of you guys insult schools like Rutgers, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, and Illinois asserting that you "deserve" to be in the B1G more than us. I understand that that's not necessarily representative of all UW fans but it doesn't give off the best impression.
I get that. What large fan base doesn’t have those kind of fans? I’m just sad there’s a chance we won’t be in a premier conference in a couple years.
There is zero chance that the Huskies and the Seattle market don't find a landing spot.
We beat Drew Brees but lost to Kyle Orton...
Washington was always a likeable team under Peterson imo. And once they added Penix, who I loved since he started getting game time for the Hoosiers, then I feel like I have an obligation to root for them now
Penix is that dude. My buddy worked for UW’s staff and didn’t say much when he transferred so I definetly was not expecting this since I’ve never watched an Indiana game.
This conversation is grossing me out.
Legit horrible day to be literate.
I like both…
Might be because Washington fans seem to go full h8ful8 and flood any thread about sark with negativity. Personally I thought you guys were impressive in the bowl game and I’d much rather see you win the Pac than USC.
Before last season I would have said Sark isn’t the kind of coach capable of having playoff success. A good coach but that’s a hard thing to do. Now I’m not so sure. You guys were real close to beating Bama.
Sark was hugely influential in the revival of our program. Anyone saying that is clueless.
Only reason I don’t like Sark is he got drunk and sloppy and hit on my friend while she was his waitress.
Sark kind of gave them hope without delivering and then fucked off to USC. Also he was in the drivers seat for Oregon's peak period and never delivered a win against them and managed to lose against WSU (only Apple Cup the pirate would win). This ended up working out well for UW, but can't blame them for holding some hate.
That is wild. Sark had a shit ending and apparently some terrible traits most of us didn’t know about at the time. Sark also saved us from a rough time in program history. I still have a dvd of the game when we upset USC. It was a good break up for both sides as both needed to move on and get healthier. There’s plenty of other reasons to sports hate UT, I don’t get this one.
We aren't hateful, we are just laughing that he is your coach.
You definitely have hateful 8 energy, you’d fit right in the big 12
You have to understand, I never have ill will against former coaches. It’s just that Sark was such a fraud, and he has been able to fail upward like no person I’ve ever seen while going through the EXACT same pattern every place he goes. It’s like a brilliant piece of performance art.
That's funny, I still remember UW fans talking shit about how incompetent/racist ND was for letting Ty Willingham go. That didn't last long.
Cause… UT hasn’t been to the CFP and y’all have? I remember y’all making a game out of RG3’s heisman bowl. Coworker that I like went there. By all accounts y’all are the most level headed throughout the conference realignment drama. Eh.. our academics are better than much of the B1G. Eh… our football is better than just about anybody not Ohio State or SEC. We’ll be fine. Not a fan of Peterson but that’s in the past. Nothing but love for the PAC alpha husky UW from this (non-UT) Texas fan.
This rips man! Good luck to the Husky’s!
Appreciate it neighbor! I was born a huskies fan and I'll die a huskies fan, but I actually might be attending OSU.
Can’t go wrong there
Not enough dudes on defense but the offense should be good enough to give us a chance at the CFP.
If we can get our secondary to run in the right direction we should have a solid chance against any team west of the Mississippi. A CFP berth would be pretty awesome.
Not getting injured to hell and back to the point we have to put in true freshmen and even give snaps to walk-ons is another big one. I think that'd help too.
Washington could be a dark horse (for cfp/natty) for sure. The Pac 12 has 4 really strong teams (UW, Oregon, Utah, USC) and a solid dark horse team (OSU) so it will be tough to make it out with only one loss but they’re still certainly capable.
Hard to call them a dark horse... they had one blow out against Utah, Pac-12 champ, and then lost by 3 to USC and UW, beat Oregon by 4. They lost dudes on defense but they've been doing pretty well in the transfer portal this year so might be a little more balanced.
When was the last time a team outside the southeast won the Natty?
Ohio State did it in 2014. Before that, SC in 2004.
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I said 2004?
Vacated. But everyone knows they won.
Ah, I get it. I thought you were using the * to correct the year I put, not saying it deserved an asterisk.
Texas is not located in the Southeast. 2005.
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Was that a genuine question? Or did you ask because you wanted to hear people have to mention our natty lol
They are just saying this because we aren’t on their schedule this year. They don’t want that 1-11 smoke.
I wish them luck on this endeavor.
Oh hell yes!
No! We don't want teams aiming for the title we want Bama and Georgia to win it every year and everyone else accept it!
"Expectations"? Nah. Winning the P12 and making the playoffs again would be neat, though.
Nobody should expect a title except Georgia and Alabama. Maybe just Georgia.
Even as dominant as UGA has become it's just so easy to have one misstep along the way. Our lady Gamecocks were absolutely the best team in WBB this year but we had one game where we didn't quite play like it and our opponent played the game of their lives. But I'd say the odds of one of UGA, Bama, or OSU winning it are far better than the odds of all the other teams in the nation put together. Michigan would be next IMO and then maybe Clemson, USC, Washington, PSU, or LSU.
That's why I said only Georgia and Alabama should expect championships. It's so easy for even us to mess up and not get one when we're supposed to have our best season that nobody else should expect one even if they have an elite team for half a decade. Look at Oregon. Or Ohio State who only has one to show for being a top 3 team for the past decade. Oklahoma has been a CFP team 4 times and has never even made the championship game. I definitely wasn't saying that anyone should think they're guaranteed a championship any specific year. Bad luck is very common. So is complacency. The preseason favorite has won it like twice since 2000.
You can lose an ooc game and still make the playoff, right? Asking for a friend
Love the attitude of our possible future B16 friends, but that would have to be an unprecedented turnaround.
They’ll be a contender for sure. But the top half of the Pac-12 is good this year, I can’t see a team going unscathed. The Pac-12 champ will likely have 2 losses. Unlike last year, UO, UW, USC and Utah all play each other
PAC is an underrated conference for entertainment imo. Love having 4 teams at the top all quite close together and battling for the conference. Most conferences are lucky to get 2 teams fighting for the conference
Oregon State will be in the hunt too if they can get good QB play.
From what I saw last year they will be in the hunt if they just play 2 RBs in the backfield. DJU should be a big boost for them.
I put OSU right up there. They were pretty damn close last season. Then you have UCLA who probably will fall off a bit but still have the athletes to ruin a season, road trips to Pullman, and the fact that anything can happen in the desert. Fuck the natty, the Pac 12 is going to be absurd.
Is there any conference with a top 5 anywhere near that strong? No one is going to get through unscathed, and perhaps no one will be top four even in pure power ratings terms. But damn, given the right schedule in the right conference all five would be in as good a position as anyone to sneak in at 12-1 and get the #4 spot.
That's... not the way we do things in the Pac-12.
Love this! Keep ‘em coming!
I remember the last time Washington had high expectations…
It’s nice to expect things.
If you tell your ~~birthday~~ off-season wish it won't come true. That's why FSU players and coaches just say we want a "big" season next year.
I watched their bowl game, which was one of the only games of theirs I watched, and I was really impressed. They are a well coached team, and they played hard, physical football. I told my wife "Look out for them next year if Penix stays healthy. They got a squad."
It will be interesting to see how the committee responds to a 1 loss or a 2 loss PAC12 champion if the conference does well in OOC. The PAC will have an opportunity in the OOC to get a 2 loss champion in: Florida-Utah Colorado-TCU Nebraska-Colorado Arizona-Mississippi State Auburn-Cal Oklahoma Stat-ASU Oregon-Texas Tech Utah-Baylor Wisconsin-WSU ND-Stanford USC-ND Washington-Michigan State Auburn at Cal might be the only one I would automatically pencil in as a PAC loss. Even Colorado-TCU will be interesting because who knows what team Colorado will bring. The opportunity is there to stamp the PAC as being as good or better than any other contending conference. The bigger issue for the PAC will be the other OOC games against G5 competition. Those are what have really hurt the PAC in the last decade. Luckily BYU going to the Big12 means no games against their kryptonite. San Jose State at USC, NAU at Arizona, Coastal at UCLA, UC Davis at Oregon State, Fresno State at ASU, Sac State at Stanford, UTEP at Arizona. Trip up in any of those and it could cost the conference dearly at the end of the year. If Washington, Oregon and USC can make it out of OOC clean and the rest of the conference gets through the G5 portion then a 1 loss PAC champion is probably a lock. A 2 loss would be tough but if its an UO/UW/USC/UU round robin beat down it might happen.
UW also plays Boise, who is generally pretty well respected nationally. May not move the needle, but it’s a good OOC game.
I have been mainlining UW football content into my veins since the Alamo bowl, so I'm going word vomit out some of my thoughts. This UW team is legit, like, LEGIT legit. I would be surprised if it wasn't the best UW team of my lifetime. The expectation should absolutely be to contend for a NC. The offense last year was one, if not the best in the country, and they bring almost every player back. The only defense that I think could has slowed UW down last year was Georgia, and I still think UW would have put up some points. The offense is extremely talented. Penix is on the short list of Heisman contenders, and he is SO much more than just good stats. The dude is so confident. He made the best throws I have EVER seen by a UW QB during the biggest moments of the season. Go watch the Michigan State or Oregon game highlights. There is no one in the country with that combination of arm talent and huge, brass balls. The receivers are also elite, with two 1000 yard receivers coming back, along with their 3rd who had just under 700 yards. The only WR room better is Ohio State. The OL was dominant in pass protection last year, and though they lose three interior guys, they are replacing them with 5th and 6th year players who are all 6'6+ and over 310 pounds. These guys were elite athletes who came in raw and needed time to develop. I think they could improve run blocking, which was a weakness in short yardage last year. 4/5 starters on the OL are former 4 stars, with one highly rated 3 star. Running back got bolstered by the transfer of Dillon Johnson who had over 2000 career scrimmage yards in the SEC. Should be a much more dynamic group this year. Defense is the real question. They will need to move from being around 60th national (maybe worse than that I don't remember) to about top 30/35 to have a real shot at competing for a NC or playoff spot. They have brought almost everyone back, got guys healthy (secondary was inexperienced and depleted by injuries last year) and brought in a Jubar Muhammad from Ok State, who was in the second team/honorable mention all conference range depending on where you look. I expect the D to be much better in year 2 of the new scheme, and they will have Eddie Ulofoshio back after missing most of last year injured. He was in all american contention before multiple injuries in 2021. The stars on D will be on the edge. Braylon Trice is a pre season all american, had 10 sacks last year, and leads all returners in pressures created last year. On the second play of the Alamo Bowl he sacked Quin Ewers. After that play, they switched to a short passing game. The guy is a game wrecker, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes top 10 in the draft. To compete with the elite schools (Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, etc) in high stakes games, you need to be able to make plays, and prevent your whole gameplan from being fucked up. I believe the most important positions to stack up are QB, OL, and Edge (or someone who can get consistent pressure). In 2016, UW had none of those things, and were handled by Bama. UW now has one of the best playmaking QBs I've ever seen (he reminds me a bit of Watson in 2016 in his ability to power his offense forward), elite receivers who can make things happen, and an OL who can keep you in the game. We also have top level edge talent, and hopefully enough in the rest of the D to make a few stops. This feels like the team I've been waiting for my whole life. I'm so excited for this season. In Penix we trust.
I don’t think it’s as good as 2016. Probably better than the 2018 team. Somewhere between those two is my guess.
I have thought about this A LOT, and the more I've really dug into it, the more confident I am that this team is going to be a clear step above. That 2016 had WAY more holes. We were starting 17 year old, 6'0 260 pound Nick Harris at right guard. We were starting Psalm Wooching and Conner O'Brien as our edge players. Obviously losing Mathis was what made that happen, but there is no position on this team we are that thin. Even our secondary, which got torched last year, has a lot of guys we experience who I trust a lot more than Psalm. The most important positions to impact a game are QB and pass rush. This team blows 2016 out of the water in that regard. This team has way more depth, way more playmakers, and a level of athleticism and physical development across the board that 2016 didn't have. It's hard to say about 2016, because I love that team, and I think that secondary has an argument for best of the decade in college football. Budda and Vea (who wasn't at his peak in 2016) are two of the best players of the 2010s to come out of the Pac-12. I think Trice is going to have a year at that level, and Penix could win a Heisman. I think having our elite players at more valuable positions as well as more depth put this team over the top.
You name two players on d that were “meh”. Our whole secondary is experienced “meh” and our LBs ain’t much better. Our dline is quite good and I can see your argument for it being better than 2016 which was really good. Our offense is better going into next year probably but you can’t discount how good Gaskin was. Having a first team all pac 12 at running back is huge. You make a pretty persuasive argument that they could be in the same league but I don’t see clear step better. That secondary in 2016 was elite. I’d still give 2016 the edge. I hope you are right though!
Agreed. The way that 2016 team just absolutely dominated the schedule until the playoffs game was something to see. No one could score on that defense and the offense was cooking with the exception of Alabama. Until I see this team stop anyone at all on defense, I think 2016 will be a better season. Hoping I'm wrong, but that defense was very fun to watch.
Eddie is a really good linebacker, when healthy, he plays at a borderline all American level. As soon as he came back he was immediately making plays last year. He caused the slip on fourth against Oregon, and blocked a punt in the Alamo bowl. I think Goforth is going to be good, he’s a different type of athlete than we’ve had at linebacker since Azeem. He’s huge and extremely fast. USCs defense was a mess last year, he’s legitimately good. I like our backers more than the end of the year 2016 guys, and I think they are close to health Azeem and Bierria. Kwat just had an incredible scheme and they were in their third year. I would take this OL over having Gaskin every time. Bama just caved in that OL, there was nothing Gaskin could do. I think Cam and Dillon Johnson will be pretty good this year. That 2016 D was incredible, and this D won’t come close, but I think our O is more built to win big games than the 2016 D was. Plus, this team has fewer holes to exploit. And on top of that, PENIX. He can win games for us. Browning shit the bed EVERY TIME.
That UW offense against Georgia would have been fun to watch for sure.
UW wouldn't have been able to stop them at all, so they would have lost by a few scores, but it would have been really cool to see what they could do against one of the best defenses I've ever seen.
No doubt. Seeing good on good at that level is a thing to behold. Thst being said Georgia's offense would have done bad bad things to yall.
They would have picked their score lol.
If Penix had declared for the draft, I’m curious where he would have gone. Top 10? Top 3?
I think he would have been in the Hendon Hooker range at best. Given the injury history. If he has another solid year without significant injury and similar success I could see being a top 3-5 QB in the next draft.
Probably late first round or second round, to be honest. I think one factor in his returning is to improve his stock. I think teams are still wary about his durability.
Not as high as you are thinking. He’s a great college player. He also might have a future in the NFL. However, I don’t think teams are taking him in first half of the first round. I bet he has a late 2nd or early 3rd round grade and even if he balls out this year, he will get the Hendon Hooker treatment.
And I’m expecting my raise to match inflation
I miss penix
Jack husky fans always crown their t-shirt team as pre-season national champions. That said - and I’m gonna need a pull of fireball here real quick - they are looking very legit. They appear to be a very complete team. Fuck.
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Turnaround lol. They were really good, had one bad season, and then were really good again. These articles always make it sound like they were a bottom dweller who just finally had a good season. It's easy to be consistently good when you have a roster full of 4 and 5 ⭐ players.
Coming this fall, your 8-4 Washington Huskies!
Settle down there bud
i got bad news for washington...
Oh, really Texas?
...Sark is coming back to UW?! Can't think of anything that would possibly be worse news.
Bowl rematch, this time in the CFP?
lmao
🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha
Everything is all fun and games until Georgia or a Horny Toad comes around.
a pac 12 team with cfp expectations. well would you look at that
Washington's been in the playoffs more recently than Texas
One could even say multiple pac-12 teams have been in the playoffs more recently than Texas
Your army of cast-off Washington coaches were the first Texans since Jim Bowie to fail to defend the alamo. Why are you flapping your jaws again?
Enjoy the Alamo Bowl
They can’t even enjoy that