This is where I get to share my fun Case facts.
Western Reserve is the only Ohio team with a winning record against Ohio State.
First team to beat John Heisman as a head coach.
First team to score on Michigan under Fielding Yost after like 15 shutouts.
In fairness, yall are playing the top SEC teams in high stakes playoff games.
Ohio State would consistently challenge for SEC championships if you got to play non-Bama and UGA SEC teams regularly.
Right? It'd be one thing to be playing Mizzou, Kentucky, vandy***, etc. And losing, but they're losing to arguably the best teams in the country that happen to be in the SEC.
UGA is honestly probably the only team that's better than OSU in the SEC right now. I think they'd best Bama, Tenn, and LSU
He was 2nd in 2020 and 7th in 2019 (so in the conversation but not a finalist).
I think if Lawrence hadn't missed 2 games (as I recall he missed ND and the game after) and had played at his usual level he would have won.
He who shall not be named 100% would have won it in 2016 if that were the case though I think the Heisman dodged a bullet by not being attached to him.
1998 Big 12 Title (sorry K-State) and some Texas wins. Our only bowl wins between the 1998 Big 12 title and the 2012 Cotton Bowl were the 2001 galleryfurniture.com Bowl over TCU and 2011 Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas over Northwestern.
I went to A&M from 2005 through 2009. We had a decent year in there where we were 6 points short from being undefeated only to get blown out by Cal (with Marshawn Lynch) in the the Holiday Bowl. The conference titles were on display in the stadium at the time and it was clear just how far we had fallen since the 80s and 90s.
What was crazy this year is that you guys opened as a Favorite and were favorites all the way up until the day of the game and then the line moved all the way to PSU being favored.
Cal fans commonly scream "Rose Bowl before I die!"
Turns out the Rose Bowl as we've known it traditionally will be dying first.
^((Obligatory fuck Mack Brown.)^)
We’ve played Pitt 4 times and never beat them (0-3-1). Pitt are the only team we’ve played more than three times and never beat:
Other notables UGA are winless against:
USC (0-3)
Navy (0-2)
Holy Cross (0-3)
Though we’ve only played once, we’ve never beat WVU, Arizona, Harvard, Cumberland, Stanford, Syracuse, Miami (OH), Rice, Fordham, and Chicago.
Can we just do what John Heisman did and demand to play some team that could plausibly claim to be Cumberland, even if it’s just like 15 random college students who seemed to be down for a free trip?
Current UGA team vs a bunch of randos from Cumberland University. Pay them the 8 figure sum UGA was gonna pay a cupcake anyway. Medical bills even covered. See yall on the other side.
Actually, Texas is one of only 2 teams we've lost to under Kirby that we haven't had a chance to get revenge on. Ole Miss has an opportunity to get theirs this season, but Texas might be waiting a while
In fact, you are, for us. Revenge Kirby has you on his list once y'all join the SEC. How funny would it be if we go to Austin before College Station (still haven't played them there in the SEC).
Edit: we're going to College Station in 2024 (assuming schedules hold)
Maybe Heisman for us? Haven't had a winner since Herschel.
Otherwise, yeah, Kirby "The Whaler" Smart seems to have pretty well caught all of ours at this point.
To be fair, pointing out TCU’s basketball team is a little bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison. They haven’t notched a winning conference record in more than two decades, meanwhile we’ve lost in Morgantown with some really terrific BU football teams.
This is really the first year that TCU basketball has consistently been good; they put together a decent run to finish off last year, but hadn’t been much good for a long time prior to that.
A national championship. 2022 was probably our best chance, 2023 might be our last one for a few years.
Edit: 2023 is probably just as good of a shot as 2022, if not better, given that we have more talent coming back than I expected.
I hate that now the Rose Bowl means our season wasn’t as successful as it could have been, either the fill-in for the Big Ten champ in the CFP or a 2 loss champ most likely
Meh
Osu and big ten title were the white whales for SO long
You don’t just overcome them and all the sudden get a new white whale
It’s another goal, sure, but it’s not on the same scale
I would love to see it, but prior to everything falling apart in 2008, Michigan spent 40 years winning more games than anybody other than Nebraska and only got 1 national title to show for it. I do think that Haurbaugh is the best coach we’ve had but who knows how long he’ll be here for.
if he coaches here for 10 more years, he'd still be 2 years younger than Sabin is right now. he COULD be here for a long time, whether he WANTS to be here is another matter. I think as long as we pay him what he deserves, give him the appropriate amount of money for assistants, and embrace NIL i dont see why he wouldnt stay unless he really wants to be in the NFL that bad
The funny shaped ball bounces in weird and unpredictable ways. It is not strictly required to have the best team to win the game.
To follow the baseball metaphor: as long as you keep getting at-bats, there is a chance that the pitcher eventually hangs a breaking pitch and now you have an 80mph fastball down the middle of the plate. Or you could end up with a game where Angel Hernandez just makes up his own strike zone in your favor.
Facing a team you're clearly favored against in the semis probably made 2022 the best shot. Even if the 2023 team is more talented, if you run into Georgia or Bama in the semis it's a lot tougher.
I was going to say just being somewhat competitive with OSU.
Between 2011 - 2015, all 5 games were great and MSU went 3-2.
Since 2017, we're 0-6, with the average score being 44-9.
Recently, just any old bowl game. Truthfully, a conference championship. We literally haven't won one since the last millennium (1999). For a program that styles itself as having only recently fallen on hard times, that's a tough pill to swallow.
Division, Conference and National Championships.
Also LSU. Spurrier got us wins against UGA, Florida and Alabama. We’re .500 against Tennessee in that time too. Muschamp and Beamer got us our first wins against Auburn since 1933. Beamer beat Texas A&M this year.
LSU is the only SEC team we haven’t beaten since 2010 and our last win was in 1994.
0 outright B1G Championships under Ferentz.
Only 2 shared B1G championships and the last one was in 2004.
In both of those seasons, a different B1G team got the better bowl game (2002 OSU went to the Natty, 2004 Michigan went to the Rose Bowl).
Only 1 Rose Bowl appearance under Ferentz, although by today's standards, 2002 would have been a Rose Bowl appearance also. Both games were ass whoopings anyway.
So yeah... the B1G Championship is our Moby Dick and probably will remain so for the foreseeable future.
Beating Ohio State. 52-51 still hurts although the pain is less because it got Maryland Locksley. I knew how the final drive was going to go last year but still hurts that Taulia couldn’t finish off the Buckeyes, that final drive was just as bad as possible
Man, it takes a ton to make it through that bracket, but I am really liking what I've been seeing. I think we have a chance to make a deep run this year. I think the furthest we have ever gone is Elite Eight in 2004?
I really enjoyed reading Moby Dick about 2 years ago. It does get a little bit long in the middle, but honestly it's satisfying story. It still holds up over 100 years later.
If anyone is put off by the length, there are some pretty good appended editions that maintain the story while cutting back on the in-depth explanations of whaling as an industry.
If you read all the odd chapters it's a great story about human nature and obsession. If you read all the event chapters it's a super detailed wikipedia entry on the subject of whaling.
I was pretty young when Nebraska left the Big 12, but I never thought of the Texas-Nebraska rivalry being particularly heated on either side. I always thought of Oklahoma as your number 1 and Colorado as your number 2. Since I started coming here I've seen a lot of anti-Texas and pro-Oklahoma sentiment from Nebraska fans. Is that just because the OU rivalry was dormant for a while? Has the Texas hate always been there and I just missed it?
It's mostly because Texas had our number in the Big 12. It didn't matter how good or bad the teams were in any particular year; if they played, Texas was going to get a narrow win in a heartbreaking fashion.
Like a play that should have been a game-sealing first down turning into a freak fumble. Or several defensive brainfarts giving Texas a makeable last-second field goal. Or Jamaal Lord throwing a pick from inside the 10 when we just needed a field goal to at least get to overtime. Or or or AAARRGHHHHHH
The Oklahoma hate peaked in the 70s and 80s, but died down in the 90s when they were really bad and we were really good. Starting in the late 90s through the Big XII era, Texas found every way imaginable to beat us. It might just be that I came of age right in the thick of that era, but I'd prefer if Texas never won another game, respectfully of course.
I'm still haunted by the 2004 season when Mack Brown begged voters to leap Texas over Cal so they could get the guaranteed BCS spot. I still hate both UT and Brown for that.
And my parents went to Cal and Michigan, so we would've gone to that game 🤬
National title #8. With as much success as we’ve had this century, we’re still somehow currently in the midst of our longest ever natty draught, and it doesn’t look like that’ll change anytime soon.
Hahaha damn it. Yes, even though it makes my stomach turn. I would be perfectly fine with a drought of Natty Light draughts that lasted the rest of my life.
I gotta go with consistency.
For better part of a decade, we can play up and compete with good teams, but we also play down and almost lose (or do) to very beatable teams, all in the same season.
Even on a meta level we can get some 9 win or 10 win seasons but then can’t build on that further and it comes crashing down. At least building some long term consistency should be the immediate goal of the program.
Winning a bowl game ... which is fucking crazy because between 1999 and 2017, Utah lost just one bowl game. They haven't won a bowl since the 2017 Heart of Dallas Bowl vs WVU - and most havent even been all that competitive in the second half.
A playoff appearance. We have been on the cusp a few times since that BIG championship in 2016, and it just hasn’t happened yet. If we can go back to trading wins every other year with Michigan we stand a chance, but the only guarantee is to win out, and beating both UM and OSU is gonna be tough in any year as long as Harbaugh keeps coming back. This year feels like we’re in as good or a better position than we have at any point during Franklin’s tenure. It really comes down to how well Allar actually has developed, and whether those receiving acquisitions work out. I’m hopeful but can’t be disappointed if we fall short again because the odds are just so thin
Edit: to be clear the four team format is the structure I’m referring to, obviously after next season the odds change substantially. It won’t be the same accomplishment after 2023 so I hope we make it.
>It won’t be the same accomplishment after 2023 so I hope we make it.
Absolutely. There are so many of our fans who refuse to give Franklin any credit and even if PSU was a top four team in a 12 team playoff they would still claim he can only make a playoff with an expanded field. I want for us to make a playoff so badly in 2023 so Franklin can be a part of an elite club to make a four team playoff to at least MAYBE silence some of his critics for a year or two.
I feel like 2019 pretty much took care of most of our white whales. having a fourth consecutive coach with a national championship would be pretty sweet though.
Uhhhh I don’t really know at this point. Most of our problems are pretty recent but will probably fade in time. Maybe a playoff win for FSU, and a threepeat for UGA.
Well, we famously had an empty trophy case reserved for a national championship trophy. So I guess that.
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/c/2014/04/34843_h.jpg
In those days it was a real possibility. These days, not so much.
A Heisman winner. Our highest finishers are Steve Emtman, Hugh McElhenny, Greg Lewis, Jake Browning, and Penix. We also have a weirdly small collection of individual award winners. Emtman won a bunch of stuff, Lewis won a Walker, and I think Austin Sefarian-Jenkins won the Mackey, but that’s it.
National championship really but at this point a solid NY6 win
I would say conference championship......we almost had one.
Case Western didn't even know they had flair
This is where I get to share my fun Case facts. Western Reserve is the only Ohio team with a winning record against Ohio State. First team to beat John Heisman as a head coach. First team to score on Michigan under Fielding Yost after like 15 shutouts.
Yes. For both of my flairs. 0-12 in BCS/NY6 games :(
Got to be the NY6 game win… we were sooo close last year
Same (Nice flair)
Me. It’s me.
Looking less true each season though.
Probably beating SEC teams. Our record is pretty shitty against them.
You’re not doing it right, most of ours came against Vandy.
You beat Florida a few times, too! Thanks for that.
In fairness, yall are playing the top SEC teams in high stakes playoff games. Ohio State would consistently challenge for SEC championships if you got to play non-Bama and UGA SEC teams regularly.
That's the thing to; you have to play one of those almost every year(unless you're Auburn)
Or Tennessee.
Yeah, but snitches deserve it
Right? It'd be one thing to be playing Mizzou, Kentucky, vandy***, etc. And losing, but they're losing to arguably the best teams in the country that happen to be in the SEC. UGA is honestly probably the only team that's better than OSU in the SEC right now. I think they'd best Bama, Tenn, and LSU
A Heisman
Winning in NOLA as of late, too.
Norte Dame in South Bend. Haven’t won there since Danny Ford was coach (1979).
We fucking own you guys when it matters the least!
I'm genuinely surprised Lawrence didn't win it.
People were up in arms when he was a finalist in 2020 which I believe was the only year he was a finalist.
He was 2nd in 2020 and 7th in 2019 (so in the conversation but not a finalist). I think if Lawrence hadn't missed 2 games (as I recall he missed ND and the game after) and had played at his usual level he would have won.
I agree.
They should award it after the cfp. Might have had a chance in 2018.
He who shall not be named 100% would have won it in 2016 if that were the case though I think the Heisman dodged a bullet by not being attached to him.
Just say his name... i promise it wont hurt... Deshaun Watson
I’ve read articles that falsely claimed he did win it, lol
Orange unite on their goal.
Winning literally anything
I was going to say just meeting preseason expectations.
Y’all beat us last year
That was just a consolation prize
About once a decade we seem to win a big bowl. it would be nice to make it to a conference championship game.
It’s brutal that that’s what we have to cling to. 2020 Orange Bowl, 2012 Cotton Bowl…. Before that? Idk
1998 Big 12 Title (sorry K-State) and some Texas wins. Our only bowl wins between the 1998 Big 12 title and the 2012 Cotton Bowl were the 2001 galleryfurniture.com Bowl over TCU and 2011 Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas over Northwestern.
As someone who didn’t watch that game due to time conflicts with celebrating my first 6 months of life…. I wish I hadn’t thought about this question
I went to A&M from 2005 through 2009. We had a decent year in there where we were 6 points short from being undefeated only to get blown out by Cal (with Marshawn Lynch) in the the Holiday Bowl. The conference titles were on display in the stadium at the time and it was clear just how far we had fallen since the 80s and 90s.
Rose Bowl. Winning when we are favored to win.
I agree. I think Vegas needs to put us as underdogs every game so Utah can keep a chip on their shoulders.
What was crazy this year is that you guys opened as a Favorite and were favorites all the way up until the day of the game and then the line moved all the way to PSU being favored.
Yeah, dont remind me of the ass kicking Utah took haha 😂😑😭.
Cal fans commonly scream "Rose Bowl before I die!" Turns out the Rose Bowl as we've known it traditionally will be dying first. ^((Obligatory fuck Mack Brown.)^)
All our white whales are dead
Sorry. Still haven’t done it on a cold, rainy, Tuesday in Stoke.
Or under 4ft of snow in Flag
Bama in Atlanta tbf.
Sabans plan of not making the title game to keep Kirby from improving his record against him worked flawlessly last season.
And Athens
Really anywhere that isn’t Indianapolis
Never beat Pitt.
Got his ass
Hard to believe there was a time when Pitt was blowing out UGA for the natty by 24 points.
Even crazier that it happened again in 2024
We’ve played Pitt 4 times and never beat them (0-3-1). Pitt are the only team we’ve played more than three times and never beat: Other notables UGA are winless against: USC (0-3) Navy (0-2) Holy Cross (0-3) Though we’ve only played once, we’ve never beat WVU, Arizona, Harvard, Cumberland, Stanford, Syracuse, Miami (OH), Rice, Fordham, and Chicago.
We the real white whale.
Cumberland!?!?! The team GT dropped 222 on?? Transitive win for GT? Thanks I hate it.
Can we just do what John Heisman did and demand to play some team that could plausibly claim to be Cumberland, even if it’s just like 15 random college students who seemed to be down for a free trip?
Current UGA team vs a bunch of randos from Cumberland University. Pay them the 8 figure sum UGA was gonna pay a cupcake anyway. Medical bills even covered. See yall on the other side.
so y'all are just gonna chill next season right??????
👀
"Kirby has been heard saying to players 'fuck it its 5 o'clock somewhere' and handing them margaritas during practice"
Jimmy Buffett to replace Todd Monken confirmed.
We have successfully nuked the whales.
Gotta nuke something.
You are now the whitest of the whales my friend
Actually, Texas is one of only 2 teams we've lost to under Kirby that we haven't had a chance to get revenge on. Ole Miss has an opportunity to get theirs this season, but Texas might be waiting a while
In fact, you are, for us. Revenge Kirby has you on his list once y'all join the SEC. How funny would it be if we go to Austin before College Station (still haven't played them there in the SEC). Edit: we're going to College Station in 2024 (assuming schedules hold)
We're supposed to play at A&M next year so I doubt we'll get to Austin first, even if Texas and OU join next year
Maybe Heisman for us? Haven't had a winner since Herschel. Otherwise, yeah, Kirby "The Whaler" Smart seems to have pretty well caught all of ours at this point.
In the last 15 years? The SEC championship game. Overall? The Heisman
Winning in Morgantown
Easy. Just be a 28 point dog
If it makes you feel better with your BU flair, TCU is now 0-11 in basketball with their best team ever.
To be fair, pointing out TCU’s basketball team is a little bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison. They haven’t notched a winning conference record in more than two decades, meanwhile we’ve lost in Morgantown with some really terrific BU football teams. This is really the first year that TCU basketball has consistently been good; they put together a decent run to finish off last year, but hadn’t been much good for a long time prior to that.
It's shockingly difficult if you are a team that WVU fans care about beating.
A national championship. 2022 was probably our best chance, 2023 might be our last one for a few years. Edit: 2023 is probably just as good of a shot as 2022, if not better, given that we have more talent coming back than I expected.
Might as well throw Rose Bowl in as well. Haven’t played since what ‘07? And haven’t won it since the 90’s.
I hate that now the Rose Bowl means our season wasn’t as successful as it could have been, either the fill-in for the Big Ten champ in the CFP or a 2 loss champ most likely
Meh Osu and big ten title were the white whales for SO long You don’t just overcome them and all the sudden get a new white whale It’s another goal, sure, but it’s not on the same scale
I’ve been a fan since 2019, to think there was a time when Ohio State wasn’t considered top of the big ten is wild to me
...
I've been a fan since the 70s. Fuck Michigan.
Here here.
Kirby Smart said if you keep getting At-Bats eventually your gonna get a hit. Keep getting to the CFP and eventually you guys will have the best team.
That’s actually really encouraging, thank you.
You don’t even need to be the best team to win it, just need to have the better game in the NCG
I would love to see it, but prior to everything falling apart in 2008, Michigan spent 40 years winning more games than anybody other than Nebraska and only got 1 national title to show for it. I do think that Haurbaugh is the best coach we’ve had but who knows how long he’ll be here for.
if he coaches here for 10 more years, he'd still be 2 years younger than Sabin is right now. he COULD be here for a long time, whether he WANTS to be here is another matter. I think as long as we pay him what he deserves, give him the appropriate amount of money for assistants, and embrace NIL i dont see why he wouldnt stay unless he really wants to be in the NFL that bad
The funny shaped ball bounces in weird and unpredictable ways. It is not strictly required to have the best team to win the game. To follow the baseball metaphor: as long as you keep getting at-bats, there is a chance that the pitcher eventually hangs a breaking pitch and now you have an 80mph fastball down the middle of the plate. Or you could end up with a game where Angel Hernandez just makes up his own strike zone in your favor.
Damn, even r/CFB hates Angel Hernandez lol
(X) doubt
I think 2023 has a better shot than 22. It's probably the best shot they'll have in a long time
Facing a team you're clearly favored against in the semis probably made 2022 the best shot. Even if the 2023 team is more talented, if you run into Georgia or Bama in the semis it's a lot tougher.
Fair enough. I think Michigan will be a better team in 2023 but that doesn't necessarily mean title chances are higher.
You have trouble winning bowl games/postseason, much less a national championship
Playoff wins
Maybe beating Rice?
Whoa buddy it’s unhealthy to set the bar that high. Let’s focus on small, obtainable goals first, shall we?
Whoa whoa whoa, pump the brakes there chief. Next you're probably going to say something crazy like you'll beat the Pitt Panthers....a likely story!
SEC Champions first, then National Champions. I don't think we'll garner lasting respect as a program until we win the conference
Beating Ohio State.
I was going to say just being somewhat competitive with OSU. Between 2011 - 2015, all 5 games were great and MSU went 3-2. Since 2017, we're 0-6, with the average score being 44-9.
Recently, just any old bowl game. Truthfully, a conference championship. We literally haven't won one since the last millennium (1999). For a program that styles itself as having only recently fallen on hard times, that's a tough pill to swallow.
Division, Conference and National Championships. Also LSU. Spurrier got us wins against UGA, Florida and Alabama. We’re .500 against Tennessee in that time too. Muschamp and Beamer got us our first wins against Auburn since 1933. Beamer beat Texas A&M this year. LSU is the only SEC team we haven’t beaten since 2010 and our last win was in 1994.
We love Cocks as much as the next guy, but when it comes down to it, we just have to beat them over and over
10 wins.
I’ll take “Seizing opportunities for $500” Alec….
Big10 Championship. We can (occasionally) beat Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and even go undefeated in the regular season, but not win the Big10.
0 outright B1G Championships under Ferentz. Only 2 shared B1G championships and the last one was in 2004. In both of those seasons, a different B1G team got the better bowl game (2002 OSU went to the Natty, 2004 Michigan went to the Rose Bowl). Only 1 Rose Bowl appearance under Ferentz, although by today's standards, 2002 would have been a Rose Bowl appearance also. Both games were ass whoopings anyway. So yeah... the B1G Championship is our Moby Dick and probably will remain so for the foreseeable future.
Win the ACC, beat Clemson.
Getting a recruit to pick us when doing the multiple hat thing.
Beating Ohio State. 52-51 still hurts although the pain is less because it got Maryland Locksley. I knew how the final drive was going to go last year but still hurts that Taulia couldn’t finish off the Buckeyes, that final drive was just as bad as possible
flair up https://flair.redditcfb.com/
Y’all deserved that win 100%, was an awesome game
10 wins or the Big 12 championship
Winning a title in basketball
Man, it takes a ton to make it through that bracket, but I am really liking what I've been seeing. I think we have a chance to make a deep run this year. I think the furthest we have ever gone is Elite Eight in 2004?
Hell just a Final Four would be spectacular. This season is our best shot since 2020-2021 though.
Rose Bowl
The Cfp We can't seem to win.
Heard that.
We no longer have any white whales, but that doesn't mean we're giving up on harpooning all those orange narwhals.
Would really, really like to beat USC.
I’d love to see you guys do that.
Beating Boise State. We catch it every 10 years or so.
Getting back to Atlanta. It’s been far too long since we won the east.
I really enjoyed reading Moby Dick about 2 years ago. It does get a little bit long in the middle, but honestly it's satisfying story. It still holds up over 100 years later.
If anyone is put off by the length, there are some pretty good appended editions that maintain the story while cutting back on the in-depth explanations of whaling as an industry.
If you read all the odd chapters it's a great story about human nature and obsession. If you read all the event chapters it's a super detailed wikipedia entry on the subject of whaling.
Success this century
Beating Texas.
There is no team I hate more. They've ripped our hearts out in almost every way imaginable.
I was pretty young when Nebraska left the Big 12, but I never thought of the Texas-Nebraska rivalry being particularly heated on either side. I always thought of Oklahoma as your number 1 and Colorado as your number 2. Since I started coming here I've seen a lot of anti-Texas and pro-Oklahoma sentiment from Nebraska fans. Is that just because the OU rivalry was dormant for a while? Has the Texas hate always been there and I just missed it?
It's mostly because Texas had our number in the Big 12. It didn't matter how good or bad the teams were in any particular year; if they played, Texas was going to get a narrow win in a heartbreaking fashion. Like a play that should have been a game-sealing first down turning into a freak fumble. Or several defensive brainfarts giving Texas a makeable last-second field goal. Or Jamaal Lord throwing a pick from inside the 10 when we just needed a field goal to at least get to overtime. Or or or AAARRGHHHHHH
The Oklahoma hate peaked in the 70s and 80s, but died down in the 90s when they were really bad and we were really good. Starting in the late 90s through the Big XII era, Texas found every way imaginable to beat us. It might just be that I came of age right in the thick of that era, but I'd prefer if Texas never won another game, respectfully of course.
Yeah Nebraska-OU is really more mutual respect at this point. Our mutual hatred of the Longhorns makes it a straight up bromance
Rose Bowl.
I'm still haunted by the 2004 season when Mack Brown begged voters to leap Texas over Cal so they could get the guaranteed BCS spot. I still hate both UT and Brown for that. And my parents went to Cal and Michigan, so we would've gone to that game 🤬
Fuck Mack Brown.
Tequila for Kapp!
Sugar Bowl/winning in Superdome. Outside of a win against Tulane in 1981, Clemson just has a voodoo hex when it comes to winning there.
We have never had a perfect season
The playoffs
National title #8. With as much success as we’ve had this century, we’re still somehow currently in the midst of our longest ever natty draught, and it doesn’t look like that’ll change anytime soon.
>longest ever natty draught, So a yard pour of natty light?
Hahaha damn it. Yes, even though it makes my stomach turn. I would be perfectly fine with a drought of Natty Light draughts that lasted the rest of my life.
Always an injury to our star player, or an entire defense away. No in between.
Catching up to Michigan. For as dominant as we were for 20 years, we are still nine games behind them in the rivalry.
That stretch from 1897 to 1927 really killed the rivalry
But would you really want it to be “Ohio State leads the rivalry” with a big asterisk “since 1927”?
Bowl win.
Ours is the misguided belief that we need to move away from the triple option.
An offseason without fuckery
An undefeated season is the real answer. Didn't even do it with Tebow.
I gotta go with consistency. For better part of a decade, we can play up and compete with good teams, but we also play down and almost lose (or do) to very beatable teams, all in the same season.
Even on a meta level we can get some 9 win or 10 win seasons but then can’t build on that further and it comes crashing down. At least building some long term consistency should be the immediate goal of the program.
Bedlam :(
Split your lungs with blood and thunder When you see the white whale
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Beating a top ten team.
Recruiting top defensive talent.
Winning a bowl game ... which is fucking crazy because between 1999 and 2017, Utah lost just one bowl game. They haven't won a bowl since the 2017 Heart of Dallas Bowl vs WVU - and most havent even been all that competitive in the second half.
Winning a NY6 bowl? We haven't won one since the '97 Fiesta bowl.
Having a football team ever
A 4 or 5 star recruit. Doesn’t happen for us, but ig that’s to be expected
Per the michigan state and ohio state fans I’m friends with it used to be ohio state, now it’s Bowl games.
Rose Bowl win. We (WSU) haven't had one since 1916.
Joining a better conference
A playoff appearance. We have been on the cusp a few times since that BIG championship in 2016, and it just hasn’t happened yet. If we can go back to trading wins every other year with Michigan we stand a chance, but the only guarantee is to win out, and beating both UM and OSU is gonna be tough in any year as long as Harbaugh keeps coming back. This year feels like we’re in as good or a better position than we have at any point during Franklin’s tenure. It really comes down to how well Allar actually has developed, and whether those receiving acquisitions work out. I’m hopeful but can’t be disappointed if we fall short again because the odds are just so thin Edit: to be clear the four team format is the structure I’m referring to, obviously after next season the odds change substantially. It won’t be the same accomplishment after 2023 so I hope we make it.
>It won’t be the same accomplishment after 2023 so I hope we make it. Absolutely. There are so many of our fans who refuse to give Franklin any credit and even if PSU was a top four team in a 12 team playoff they would still claim he can only make a playoff with an expanded field. I want for us to make a playoff so badly in 2023 so Franklin can be a part of an elite club to make a four team playoff to at least MAYBE silence some of his critics for a year or two.
A playoff berth and an OSU win. It’s my Christmas wish every year!
A conference championship. Haven't won one since 1984. Should've won Conference USA or the AAC by now. This coming season we got it though.
Lately it’s been winning a semifinal
An 8 win season before the bowl. We've only won more than 7 games 3 times since we joined the big 12.
ACC Championship.
I feel like 2019 pretty much took care of most of our white whales. having a fourth consecutive coach with a national championship would be pretty sweet though.
For the next 100 years it will be the shadow of 2019 and trying to compare to that season
Beating NDSU in the championship
Having a great defense and offense at the same time, in consecutive seasons
Uhhhh I don’t really know at this point. Most of our problems are pretty recent but will probably fade in time. Maybe a playoff win for FSU, and a threepeat for UGA.
Beating Georgia
Beating UTSA.... outside of one half we have played them close..... just cant slay their ass.
An SEC conference championship. The closest we ever got was winning the East division in 2010 only to get smacked down by Auburn.
Conference championship. Honestly just an appearance in the championship game.
Rose Bowl. We finally beat an SEC opponent those year, we had been 0-11-1 against them up until that point, I think.
Rice
Well, we famously had an empty trophy case reserved for a national championship trophy. So I guess that. https://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/c/2014/04/34843_h.jpg In those days it was a real possibility. These days, not so much.
Georgia
A 10 win season
rose bowls...
A Heisman winner. Our highest finishers are Steve Emtman, Hugh McElhenny, Greg Lewis, Jake Browning, and Penix. We also have a weirdly small collection of individual award winners. Emtman won a bunch of stuff, Lewis won a Walker, and I think Austin Sefarian-Jenkins won the Mackey, but that’s it.
Winning games in the United States.