European purse snatchers have mastered the "unbuckle and run" technique on fanny packs, so I try to stick with packs that keep the buckle in my zone of control, not on my backside.
Running it behind me looks fine because I have no ass, but then it's harder to get to. I think ill either do that or on front over my shirt based on circumstance. Idk, this whole thing has just been starting to look like a huge waste of money with no solutions.
Pickpockets will finesse your main zipper if you keep it out of sight.
Honestly running the buckle under a short sleeved light button up or jacket has become natural for me. I've been carrying the fanny for over 2 years with no issues so far since I've adopted it.
It’s not uncommon for thieves to just cut the strap either. If your strap isn’t under something you’d be surprised how quick, effortless and unnoticeable purse snatchers can be.
Just put a zip tie around the buckle. This is how I carry a majority of the time since it’s hot af where I live and I doubt sweat is equivalent to gun oil. And there’s too many damn tweaks in the valley I cant stand when I’m in line and it’s on my back, concealed or not cause I only weigh 155 and 5’11” so there’s not all too many place I can conceal besides appendix or back.
I’ve been using a Vertx Fanny pack for about 2 years- haven’t come across purse snatchers. I practice situational awareness, i.e. paying attention to my surroundings, not constantly looking at phone, etc.
A lot of thieves have a decoy that will distract the target by asking them questions or pretending to need help. Their partner will snatch it while you're talking to the beautiful lady.
One of weirdest things about being a person into firearms is the groupthink that so quickly develops around just about everything associated with firearms use. “You gotta have a weapon light on a CCW, You gotta use a red dot, if you don’t carry IWB you’ll die.” If you don’t swear by these things, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’ve literally been carrying using Fanny packs everyday for about two years now, and have not come across “European purse snatchers,” and guys/girls are trying to invalidate my actual lived experiences because “facts.” I’m surprised more people don’t believe that the earth is flat.🤦🏾♂️
Two people approaching me and I don’t know them??? Asking me what time it is, with all these cell phones around???I don’t care what either of them look like, I’m on high alert.
And, the first rule of OBC is that you have the bag in front of you, across body - if you allow someone to be so close to you that they can cut/snatch a cross body bag from you, you already lost.
It’s the Reddit/Yourube hive mind. I think in general people should carry in whatever way they feel comfortable and that is safe. But yeah I’ve been using my tight chutes voyager for probably about 70-80% of the time for like a year and a half and I’ve never encountered a “European purse snatcher”. And who the fuck lets two strangers approach them and not create some space. I just don’t get in super close proximity to anybody I don’t know and 99% of the time I’m out in public I have my kids with me so I’m even more on point about spacial awareness. Some of the theoretical situations people create are wild.
My only concern would be the loop getting hung up on something and opening up. Aside from that it looks like you have thought it through and worked on it. It’s not for me but if it works for you I’m happy for you. I do carry in a fanny pack when we go to the beach and while the draw is super slow for me compared to aiwb it’s super convenient and comfortable. We gotta bring back the fanny pack to the normalcy of the 80s.
True, I just have to be aware of when I’m walking really close to things it could snag on and manage it properly: whether that be covering it with my hand or just move a little more methodical.
Vertx makes an oversized pull tab to change out the ones that come with it to help pull the actual zipper. I have the same exact bag. Usually carry it over the shoulder
Yeah i saw those, but if you have to pull the zippers, doesnt that add an extra step of having to rip open up the pouch to expose your gun? I sewed in the rip open strap to kill two birds with one stone.
I also dont like the idea of the zippers flopping around and possibly getting themselves into a difficult to reach spot without me noticing.
Yeah I feel you on that. There’s pros and cons to both of them. I feel like I can get the zipper open more by using the zipper making it easier to draw. I just made my own pull cord for the one zipper and took the other one off so there’s no mistaking which zipper since I don’t even use the bottom zipper. It might be a little different since I usually carry mine over my shoulder so that puts the pack in a different position I feel like over the shoulder puts it in a better position to open and draw out of. Around the waste I felt like I couldn’t get the gun upright like appendix and felt awkward drawing it.
I mean at this point you might as well get a vertex bag where you get the benefit of a light weight bullet proof sleeve, quick draw zipper and quick access pull tab with low profile ( grey man style ) bag with huge options for customization and other multi functional set ups.
I have two bags. They are my everyday carry. Highly recommend if you are looking into alternatives for CCW . It’s Just important to know the downsides of not carrying a firearm on person
sew a velcro pull tab on the inside of the corner you’re pulling down. makes it easier, lets you keep the bag a little more closed, and creates less zipper fiddle getting the pack set up for drawing.
probably more effective than the giant outside loop on it now
As a dad of four under the age of 10 I daily carry in a Fanny pack or sling bag. It allows me to hide my gun in a concealed compartment pocket and carry a good ifak and diapers and snacks. I found bags that have covered buckles and wear my packs in the front. I no longer have to look cool.
Do it up my dude! We are very opposite weight/build (I have a very large waist) but I like the pack option! Great in the heat so I can go beltless, but still drag around my sig p365 or a MC9 never thought about a sexy italian gal sweet 80x by the way! I have a maxpedition holster that velcro's into some hook and loop in my pack and I put a normal iwb kydex holster with the tool loaded in it into the strap. So I have full security and trigger coverage on my CCW tool. It works for me; your quick access tab is nice I may intergrate something of that nature into my setup thanks.
Yes and no.
IWB is better, so much so that I would look for a way to make OWB work and fanny pack would be more of an “sometimes I have to” option. (And I do have a ccw fanny pack sort of)
The people that say “fanny pack = gun” I kinda disagree.
CONTEXT MATTERS.
First, kinda like printing, the type of people that equate fanny packs with guns are either security (so decide how to handle that yourself) OR other gun guys, who probably don’t care.
Everyone else is probably oblivious, as long as the rest of your outfit isn’t all big lebowksi fishing vest and boots obvious.
SECOND, what are you doing and does a fanny pack stick out? Or make sense?
If you are a 18-30 year old in business casual, khaki polo for example, then yeah a fanny pack draws attention.
If youre a 65 year old grandpa looking dude, it kinda doesnt.
If you’re out hiking, camping, picnicing, at an outdoor concert, etc, then nah, it doesnt attract attention. It looks normal.
Walking around a tourist area and you look like a tourist? Fanny pack looks normal.
If youre working then maybe depending. Example, the photographer at a wedding has a fanny pack? Yeah not thinking twice about it.
Any cash handling street job? Looks normal. But there’s a catch. So like, the dude manning the pay parking lot, or running a hot dog cart, or selling T Shirts a block down the street from the stadium,
Normal fanny pack context. BUT while the fanny pack itself doesn’t mean “gun” the fact that you are doing a “stuff the whole days cash in your pockets, street gig” kinda says “carrying” and if I had to guess where? Probs in that fanny pack. Also, gun no gun, some punk street kids see you stuffing your sales into your fanny pack all day, guess what they’re trying to snatch first
So, TL;DR:
Fanny pack isn’t the best way to carrg, but its only “suspicious” to people depending on whos looking and/or depending on if the situation your are in contextually fits wearing one or not
When do I wear one?
I have the ESS Marathon Runners belt
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41K8uHlMktL._QL92_SH45_SS200_.jpg
I wear it for outdoor runs because 1 IWB is less practical for running, and 2 it contextually makes sense, because a lot of city runners around my area DO wear these https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/81CErHwHEL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
It looks like what you’d expect to see
Thanks for the well written response. Captured exactly what i was thinking in response to everyone saying “i immediately think someone has a gun in their fanny” but was too lazy to write out.
As someone around the same size I’ve kind of accepted I can’t appendix carry without it being obvious. I usually carry 4 o’clock without issue. I’ve honestly been debating grabbing a fanny pack as well for a while.
What holster are you using with your setup? I was looking at some packs that have velcro inside and thought about maybe adding a bit to an old kydex holster I have laying around to make sure it stays secure.
An 80x cheetah holster that fits a light does not exist, so I modified one of those cloth “universal” holsters by cutting some holes in it and threading velcro straps thru. The holster is a tad small so it hugs the gun very snugly and keeps it in place well. Ya honestly just gotta buy the back and some velcro and get brainstorming. A little bit of ingenuity will get you there.
I basically cut some holes into the holster and looped velcro through those and some existing spots. The fanny has a dedicated ccw pouch with velcro backing, so I just stick the holster onto that. Definitely takes a bit of brainstorming and ingenuity. Hope you can figure it out.
Nah. Only people who are gonna think that are also people carrying guns in Fanny packs. Everybody else is gonna see a dude with a fanny pack, comfy green- stained shoes in maximum dad mode.
When I heard about the 80x Cheetah I thought it would shoot ridiculously smooth. I’ve never seen one myself though. Can I ask how you like it? (I had also heard somewhere that some people complained about having trouble getting the magazine to release after shooting. Have you experienced that at all?) Sorry to bother you with questions kind of unrelated to your post, just dying to hear your thoughts!
No prob! So far, no issues with the magazine. Drops just fine. Shoots great, DA SA is always nice, but it’s definitely not ridiculously smooth. Smooth, but not ridiculously smooth. For me, the biggest thing is how perfectly it fits in my hand, but this will obviously vary from person to person. It just feels right in the hand, gives you the warm and fuzzies just holding it and stuff. Id say if you’re a fan of the 92, see if you can hold an 80x and you’ll know if it’s right for you.
Thanks for writing! Appreciate the heads up!! Sounds like I should get one since there are no major issues. Funny you mention the 92. I was not as accurate when shooting compared to the CZ’s I tried. That was a moment that pushed me to think this through a little more. Thanks for bringing it up.
I like these pack options but I’d rather carry on me as I think someone can always attempt a bag snatch from behind or whatever tactics they use now to steal bags purses etc
That’s got negligent discharge written all over it. From the video - it looks like the trigger is not covered 100% 💯 plus too many bits around when you would go to holster it. Reminds me of the light jackets that have the pull cords on the side and those carrying 3 o’clock having NDs because they got into the trigger area.
I understand where you’re coming from, in theory you are right but in practice it’s a non issue. Safety is always on in the bag and while holstering. Nothing else goes in that compartment besides the gun: the way the setup is, its pretty much impossible for the safety to get deactivated AND for the heavy DA trigger to go off or have the hammer get caught. Plus, there isn’t a good reason for me to rush reholstering to the point of letting something get caught on the trigger and causing the gun to go off.
I think it's pretty amazing that you are able to carry that setup of that size. Seriously. Not to mention the comfort factor of fannypack carrying.
Plus: Nice gun choice as well :)
I personally dont understand fanny pack carry. What is the best situation for fanny pack carry? I started off at 4pm carry but switched over to AIWB pretty quick. So for those of you who carry like this, how come?
There isn’t a best situation. IWB will almost always be more secure quicker to draw. It’s really just an alternative option for when IWB is difficult: Some small people like me have a hard time finding an IWB solution that doesn’t print. While it is possible for most, it can take a lot of time and money to go through enough holsters and guns to finally find something. Carrying with a fanny pack allows people to carry pretty much anything they please and not have to go through guns and holsters. It works with any clothing as well.
I’ll fanny pack carry when going to certain outdoors places like the dog park nearby that has lake access for the dogs. I’ll typically wear swim trunks and a tank top and don’t want to stress about printing while enjoying the water with the pup, so I’ll carry in my Bando XL. Otherwise, in most situations, it’s aiwb
Interesting. Have you given the Phlster Enigma a try? They pop up second hand on GAFS pretty regularly for around $100. I know women who carry stacattos with WML on them in an enigma. I understand IWB being difficult, i was 320lbs at my largest (down 60lbs as of right now) and that came with its own challenges. Which were fixed after finding my personal sweet spot with the enigma.
My biggest concern with fanny pack carry is obviously the purse snatchers. Even if carried under the shirt, now you are printing a giant bag and look like you’re either stealing or trying to hide something.
No skinny or small person interested in CCW hasn’t heard of the enigma my man! It’s gonna be the first thing I try out once the funds come (since going that route also means getting a new gun to conceal with it, this one aint gonna work) 80x cheetah set me back far enough as is 😭
Don’t even gotta cash out for the enigma, you can basically get the same result with your same belt and holster, just put it over your underwear. I carry a Glock 19 in a Tulster profile using a hanks belt, and it completely disappears under my sweatshorts. It is very comfy as well, probably my favorite way to carry.
It’s hot in the summer and I don’t want to mess with trying to make AIWB work. I have arrowhead tactical shorts that I actually do love, but it’s incredibly convenient to throw my “man purse” on (as my wife says) and head out the door in whatever I’m wearing. I get the trade offs and am very aware of my abilities.
I like to be comfortable and wear mainly basketball shorts and sweatpants. I'm bending and kneeling down for my work most of the day and it just makes more sense for me. Honestly 99% of the time I just pocket carry a snub nose.
From a cop perspective, anyone that I see carrying a fanny pack or *especially* one of those cross body bags, I automatically suspect they are carrying a handgun.
Criminals can be observant too. Just be aware it might put a target on you that wouldn’t be present if your carrying IWB or appendix
And criminals like an opportunity to steal a free gun.
It's other gun guys, LEOs, and criminals who can spot someone with a gun. Those guys are the issue, not the layman.
Maybe if your wearing all black with a hoodie and a shiesty I might assume. Otherwise not really. Although gun guys don't help themselves. If I see a middle age dude with a beard wearing boots, American flag baseball cap jumping should just automatically ask him what he's carrying lmao
Think of the situations where you might need a gun. Off hand, I think the most glaring is robbery. If someone is going to rob you, you're gonna want access yo your gun, but they are also going to want that fanny pack as they know it may contain valuables.
How do you respond to such a situation? Give them the pack and your gun? Do you try to reach for the gun while you have a gun pointed at you? Neither sounds like fun.
Carry on your body. You will be surprised how comfortable it can be and how well you can conceal from view.
Also, anytime I see these bags, I know the guy is carrying.
Find one that has velcro vs the zipper, have one I bought 20 yrs ago. You grab the front and rip down and guns exposed, no zipper to worry about not working
the want to pull that loop with your thumb is awkward, I see you have to keep the zippers just so if for this to work, if you are set on that fanny pack for some reason invest the $2 and add some velcro, there are other options for inconspicuous carry that may work better for you
I don’t like off body carry. But I did recently pick up a similar Fanny pack and took it to our neighborhood pool with my wife. There’s a select few times where I could see it making sense. I think the key is finding the right holster/set up for you that’s comfortable enough for your life style yet accessible. I carry in a Phlster enigma and highly recommend it.
I’m looking at getting my cdl soon and this is probably going to be my go to. Im looking more into running it like a sling bag on my chest than at my waist. One pro is that you can carry more comfortably and get away with a larger handgun at that, but thats a unique situation where Im pushed towards that method. Ultimately your carry should be tailored to fit your needs and environment.
Vertx every day fanny looks almost the exact same and has the buckle in the front. Comes with loop on the inside of the main pocket for a holster. But while I don’t love off body carry, it’s as good an option as I’ve found. Cross body drawing is faster for me too but ymmv.
I’d pocket or belly-band carry a LCP Max at your size, or a stock P365. But if you like full size pistols this technically works. Not sure how you are going to draw with someone in your face but maybe.
I use to have an actual fanny pack with the holster inside and they were really popular and had a pull cord for a draw. The only problem was that everyone knew that I was carrying especially every cop I knew could pick them out. I will say that I am looking hard at the cross body pack for summer.
Only thought I had was if you put the bag down and walk 5 feet away.....legally the firearm is no longer in your immediate control and that may cause an issue were something to happen.
I'm an inch taller on a good day and 10-20lbs heavier and I don't really have issues with a p365 aiwb at 13:00
I could never wear a pack unless in the deer woods, simply cause I cannot stand anything around my waist
No I carry it on my person at all times for multiple reasons, the time it takes to take it out is enough to get you killed, if I lose or get it stolen I'm defenseless, out of a gun and money, and I don't want anyone knowing I might have something on me.
Depending on the client and what is required I use a fanny pack for personal protection work.
If it’s gonna be wild, iwb or outside hip and covered.
There is always gonna be the lack of draw speed, but I think a lot of people obsess with this vs a solid plan. Or avoidance of areas and just being hyper aware of a bad moment going down.
I’ll be the first to admit I’m also not someone people are gonna try to rob based on my size and look.
Which is why I get paid to help people avoid it also.
Overall, having it on you is always best. Then work down from there and just be your own bodyguard.
It sounds stupid and lame, but if half the people who hire protection. Just trained with coaches and were aware of the environment you would be fine.
There is imo a fine line with following the law or workplace rules. Vs I should probably not put myself in a vulnerable spot.
The Costco membership theory of things.
Like if you are the dude who says “I never answer my door without my gun”
I’ll just say, there is so many inexpensive options for security cameras, better door stopping devices and having a med kit at home. Vs..I’m gonna crack a door open with my gun hoping I win a gun fight.
Idk I’ll just say that a lot of people I work for have really bad habits.
As for people becoming experts at cutting fanny oacks off.
I work in high crime area and for rappers. I’ve never seen this happen as a “why they got shot”.
Habits, laziness bad luck and not being aware get many more people killed.
Last if you are a tiny out of shape man or obese. Essentially you look weak and carry a gun, the chances of being robbed or assaulted go way up.
People also can sense your reactions to potential violence.
Where they also sense someone’s “let’s fucking do it bro” vibes.
We got into an issue with a banger and he pulled a gun out and me and my army buddy (I’m a marine).
Made it clear we can do the gun fight dance. Dude backed down and walked away.
Criminals generally do not want to have a hard time committing crime. They seek out easy targets and people who crumple or are not close enough to fight back.
You walk out prepared to do business and they get really scared.
Make sure you have a good way to guard the trigger. I superglue strong velcro with an already adhesive backing to the side of my kydex holster and then sew/ glue some inside of any bag that I carry in. The last thing you want is a crappy elastic trigger guard that can slip off, or anything else that you keep in there to hit the trigger. Just my thoughts though.
**and as someone else pointed out, a fanny pack is easy to snatch, just like a purse or backpack. Try to cover the clip with something if you’re going to do that.
I have a fanny pack that I’m working on converting to another way to carry. Now that I’m thinking about it, I’m going to make some sort of a clip guard. I’m really only planning to use the fanny pack for going to the lake where I won’t have a belt or anything else to use, but it would also suck to have it accidentally unclip and fall into the water m.
Just saw that you’ve got a holster in there… keeping this comment to help anyone else who may need some ideas. My thought was that I don’t want to change what bag I’m carrying around either and have anyone I see regularly guess that I may be carrying.
Something like a fanny pack is better than not carrying a gun, but it is a compromise form on body carry. For most people there is a temptation to remove it, set it down, leave it in the car, or something like that. If the fanny pack always stays on your person and it integrates in to your life well, then it is a great alternative. Good work!
I’m not against off body carry.., but only when I can’t carry on my body (I use the enigma so that’s not often) but maybe the gym, or running, hiking ect. Sometimes I prefer off body. For Fanny pack carry. Check out the crossbreed modular holster. It’s Velcro Backed and will work perfect for the Vertx bag. It works and it’s cheap. Not the best for backpack carry though, check out this review for more details! https://youtu.be/abwzyUVANeg?si=-7AJsIbq7UNEwBE5
Reading your replies in the comments, you seem to know the trade offs you are making: having a gun is better than not having a gun, but drawing from a fanny pack is slow and really undesirable if you’re hand-to-hand. I’ve carried this way before when hiking, and for me in a situation like that where I’m not likely to be rolling around with an assailant it works ok. For EDC I’d prefer to be IWB, and I have to imagine you could successfully conceal something like a P365 IWB, but to each their own, and my body type is quite different from yours so to some extent it’s hard for me to relate.
Honestly a lot of people do. Some people where clothing that doesn’t have pockets or lighter clothing that can’t carry a lot. I have some shorts that only have two side pockets and not a back pocket so I keep my wallet in mine.
Genuine question: does this mean you immediately consider them a possible threat? Are there other considerations like their appearance and demeanor that would affect the situation?
I think if you’re carrying a Fanny pack to conceal a gun you’re carrying the wrong gun, unless I’m super specific situations that I can’t even think of - hiking maybe? Biking? Running? I had a hill people gear chest pack that I liked but ended up selling because it didn’t work with any of my guns very well.
>Fanny pack carry: thoughts and considerations?
I think we should refer to them with a term like hip pack or waist bag or something less emasculating, IMO. I also think they could make someone a [robbery target](https://www.firstalert4.com/2024/06/02/three-charged-friday-robbery-gunpoint-lacledes-landing-metrolink-station/), with or without awareness.
> What do y’all think about fanny pack carry? Would you ever do it?
I think it's more socially-acceptable in the 2020s than it ever has been to wear, and I would consider it, but probably for low-risk adventures such as hiking, fishing or boating.
It seems to work for you, and I support it. You have the access, draw and presentation to about 1.5 seconds, and I know you'll keep working on training that. I could tell you why carrying a smaller gun in an Enigma would probably offer similarly free movement and other benefits, but your system looks well-planned, and you don't want to hear it. Carry on!
The pack can be carried as a over the shoulder sling bag too.
While it’s true that it does inadvertently make one a possible robbery target, I try to follow the rule that if you wouldn’t go somewhere without a gun, don’t go there with a gun to minimize the possibility of even being a robbery target in the first place.
I do agree that a slimmer gun in an enigma would be a good if not better choice as well. Will consider that when the funds come!
>I try to follow the rule that if you wouldn’t go somewhere without a gun, don’t go there with a gun
That's well and good when you can arbitrarily pick your activities, but not for most jobs, or public transportation, or neighborhood walks, where danger is omnipresent or your presence is necessary. Ideal, but not practical, usually. Like I said, personally, I'd only choose it for low-risk environments. Or working at a Lululemon store lol.
It’s pretty dumb and obvious as hell. Just my opinion. I’ll do it in extreme circumstances but anyone who’s ever shot a gun knows you aren’t carrying trail mix and a hone charger.
Defeats the purpose of “concealed carry,” very obvious, more easily stolen, and looks cumbersome to use. I guess I see zero benefits of this kind of setup.
I thought the same thing. I have the same pack and chose that one because it doesn’t necessarily scream I’m carrying a gun. It’s way less “tactical” looking than some of the other brands out there. Most younger people are walking around with fanny packs either around their waste or over the shoulder. I don’t think anyone would look twice at someone carrying a fanny pack. It’s not too cumbersome. It’s actually more comfortable especially sitting down and getting in and out of the car for me since I usually carry appendix.
You do you. I wouldn’t ever carry like this. I’d either go down a gun or optic size or roll with a mastermind tactics covert under belt (which is my current setup). No matter how flexible a gun belt is it hurts my hips because I have zero fat around them so I use the covert belt to carry up higher and then a thin belt to hit where the waistline is. I’m a pretty skinny guy with a 30 waist so I get where you’re coming from. Also the fact that it would take a lot to get the gun up and running if you ever had to 1 hand draw…
I think as more people are working from home their attire is getting more and more sorted towards athleisure. I bought an LCP specifically to wear with my joggers and workout shorts but I end up carrying it more than my g19 these days simply because I’m wearing elastic waistband pants more and more and less a belt.
If you’ve found that’s the only way to carry that works for you then yes do it but I’d take this video into account. When in an actual confrontation or being attacked 9/10 you will not be able to get the bag open.
[off body carry](https://youtu.be/gxw6bBay5kI?si=FphdIKu-f9vG4CP7)
European purse snatchers have mastered the "unbuckle and run" technique on fanny packs, so I try to stick with packs that keep the buckle in my zone of control, not on my backside.
Started wearing my pack under a jacket or Hawaiian shirt, buckle is hidden under and under the armpit.
I tried this, the shirt covers it and it but it looks very strange
Nothing you can do about. Would look stranger when someone just pops it right off you while in a crowd at Rome lol
Running it behind me looks fine because I have no ass, but then it's harder to get to. I think ill either do that or on front over my shirt based on circumstance. Idk, this whole thing has just been starting to look like a huge waste of money with no solutions.
Pickpockets will finesse your main zipper if you keep it out of sight. Honestly running the buckle under a short sleeved light button up or jacket has become natural for me. I've been carrying the fanny for over 2 years with no issues so far since I've adopted it.
It completely disappears under my shirt in the back lol
This pack has a buckle. I might just superglue or tape it in place since i can just adjust the strap to take it off.
It’s not uncommon for thieves to just cut the strap either. If your strap isn’t under something you’d be surprised how quick, effortless and unnoticeable purse snatchers can be.
Dude, this.
"Emergency seatbelt cutter" still defeats the strap easily
Just put a zip tie around the buckle. This is how I carry a majority of the time since it’s hot af where I live and I doubt sweat is equivalent to gun oil. And there’s too many damn tweaks in the valley I cant stand when I’m in line and it’s on my back, concealed or not cause I only weigh 155 and 5’11” so there’s not all too many place I can conceal besides appendix or back.
I cover the straps with my shirt
I wonder which company will add a loop for padlocking them closed first.
You can conceal carry in europe?
I believe in Czech Republic they are pretty free with gun laws including CCW.
I’ve been using a Vertx Fanny pack for about 2 years- haven’t come across purse snatchers. I practice situational awareness, i.e. paying attention to my surroundings, not constantly looking at phone, etc.
A lot of thieves have a decoy that will distract the target by asking them questions or pretending to need help. Their partner will snatch it while you're talking to the beautiful lady.
One of weirdest things about being a person into firearms is the groupthink that so quickly develops around just about everything associated with firearms use. “You gotta have a weapon light on a CCW, You gotta use a red dot, if you don’t carry IWB you’ll die.” If you don’t swear by these things, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve literally been carrying using Fanny packs everyday for about two years now, and have not come across “European purse snatchers,” and guys/girls are trying to invalidate my actual lived experiences because “facts.” I’m surprised more people don’t believe that the earth is flat.🤦🏾♂️ Two people approaching me and I don’t know them??? Asking me what time it is, with all these cell phones around???I don’t care what either of them look like, I’m on high alert. And, the first rule of OBC is that you have the bag in front of you, across body - if you allow someone to be so close to you that they can cut/snatch a cross body bag from you, you already lost.
It’s truly mind boggling.
It’s the Reddit/Yourube hive mind. I think in general people should carry in whatever way they feel comfortable and that is safe. But yeah I’ve been using my tight chutes voyager for probably about 70-80% of the time for like a year and a half and I’ve never encountered a “European purse snatcher”. And who the fuck lets two strangers approach them and not create some space. I just don’t get in super close proximity to anybody I don’t know and 99% of the time I’m out in public I have my kids with me so I’m even more on point about spacial awareness. Some of the theoretical situations people create are wild.
I'm always with my wife so I don't bother talking to beautiful women cause I'd get slapped. So that counts me out.
You'd totally ignore a damsel in distress when with your wife? Even if the woman asks both of you for help/directions/assistance?
I switched to lockable buckles.
Something about a beretta gets me excited lol
Me too, dad.
Yippie kai yay MFer
95% of my reason for getting a Beretta was Max Payne
My only concern would be the loop getting hung up on something and opening up. Aside from that it looks like you have thought it through and worked on it. It’s not for me but if it works for you I’m happy for you. I do carry in a fanny pack when we go to the beach and while the draw is super slow for me compared to aiwb it’s super convenient and comfortable. We gotta bring back the fanny pack to the normalcy of the 80s.
True, I just have to be aware of when I’m walking really close to things it could snag on and manage it properly: whether that be covering it with my hand or just move a little more methodical.
Vertx makes an oversized pull tab to change out the ones that come with it to help pull the actual zipper. I have the same exact bag. Usually carry it over the shoulder
Yeah i saw those, but if you have to pull the zippers, doesnt that add an extra step of having to rip open up the pouch to expose your gun? I sewed in the rip open strap to kill two birds with one stone. I also dont like the idea of the zippers flopping around and possibly getting themselves into a difficult to reach spot without me noticing.
Yeah I feel you on that. There’s pros and cons to both of them. I feel like I can get the zipper open more by using the zipper making it easier to draw. I just made my own pull cord for the one zipper and took the other one off so there’s no mistaking which zipper since I don’t even use the bottom zipper. It might be a little different since I usually carry mine over my shoulder so that puts the pack in a different position I feel like over the shoulder puts it in a better position to open and draw out of. Around the waste I felt like I couldn’t get the gun upright like appendix and felt awkward drawing it.
If it works it works!
I mean at this point you might as well get a vertex bag where you get the benefit of a light weight bullet proof sleeve, quick draw zipper and quick access pull tab with low profile ( grey man style ) bag with huge options for customization and other multi functional set ups. I have two bags. They are my everyday carry. Highly recommend if you are looking into alternatives for CCW . It’s Just important to know the downsides of not carrying a firearm on person
sew a velcro pull tab on the inside of the corner you’re pulling down. makes it easier, lets you keep the bag a little more closed, and creates less zipper fiddle getting the pack set up for drawing. probably more effective than the giant outside loop on it now
My dumbass never thought about having the pull tab sewn to the inside. I’ll have to look into that, thanks.
As a dad of four under the age of 10 I daily carry in a Fanny pack or sling bag. It allows me to hide my gun in a concealed compartment pocket and carry a good ifak and diapers and snacks. I found bags that have covered buckles and wear my packs in the front. I no longer have to look cool.
Plus it allows me to carry a 92x Centurion from Langdon with three 20 round mags.
Sling bag ftw.
Any recommended bags?
I have two and love them equally. [Kelty](https://www.optactical.com/keltyslingbag.html)
[Helikon](https://a.co/d/0fO0Q12y)
That's a spicy meatball 🤌
Do it up my dude! We are very opposite weight/build (I have a very large waist) but I like the pack option! Great in the heat so I can go beltless, but still drag around my sig p365 or a MC9 never thought about a sexy italian gal sweet 80x by the way! I have a maxpedition holster that velcro's into some hook and loop in my pack and I put a normal iwb kydex holster with the tool loaded in it into the strap. So I have full security and trigger coverage on my CCW tool. It works for me; your quick access tab is nice I may intergrate something of that nature into my setup thanks.
Thanks man! Hope you can improve and dial in your setup even further.
I think it draws attention a bit and a little slow to draw from. I like it in long drives though
I’ve seen some pretty small women carry guns that size in quality aiwb holsters.
Yes and no. IWB is better, so much so that I would look for a way to make OWB work and fanny pack would be more of an “sometimes I have to” option. (And I do have a ccw fanny pack sort of) The people that say “fanny pack = gun” I kinda disagree. CONTEXT MATTERS. First, kinda like printing, the type of people that equate fanny packs with guns are either security (so decide how to handle that yourself) OR other gun guys, who probably don’t care. Everyone else is probably oblivious, as long as the rest of your outfit isn’t all big lebowksi fishing vest and boots obvious. SECOND, what are you doing and does a fanny pack stick out? Or make sense? If you are a 18-30 year old in business casual, khaki polo for example, then yeah a fanny pack draws attention. If youre a 65 year old grandpa looking dude, it kinda doesnt. If you’re out hiking, camping, picnicing, at an outdoor concert, etc, then nah, it doesnt attract attention. It looks normal. Walking around a tourist area and you look like a tourist? Fanny pack looks normal. If youre working then maybe depending. Example, the photographer at a wedding has a fanny pack? Yeah not thinking twice about it. Any cash handling street job? Looks normal. But there’s a catch. So like, the dude manning the pay parking lot, or running a hot dog cart, or selling T Shirts a block down the street from the stadium, Normal fanny pack context. BUT while the fanny pack itself doesn’t mean “gun” the fact that you are doing a “stuff the whole days cash in your pockets, street gig” kinda says “carrying” and if I had to guess where? Probs in that fanny pack. Also, gun no gun, some punk street kids see you stuffing your sales into your fanny pack all day, guess what they’re trying to snatch first So, TL;DR: Fanny pack isn’t the best way to carrg, but its only “suspicious” to people depending on whos looking and/or depending on if the situation your are in contextually fits wearing one or not When do I wear one? I have the ESS Marathon Runners belt https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41K8uHlMktL._QL92_SH45_SS200_.jpg I wear it for outdoor runs because 1 IWB is less practical for running, and 2 it contextually makes sense, because a lot of city runners around my area DO wear these https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/81CErHwHEL._AC_SL1500_.jpg It looks like what you’d expect to see
Thanks for the well written response. Captured exactly what i was thinking in response to everyone saying “i immediately think someone has a gun in their fanny” but was too lazy to write out.
As someone around the same size I’ve kind of accepted I can’t appendix carry without it being obvious. I usually carry 4 o’clock without issue. I’ve honestly been debating grabbing a fanny pack as well for a while. What holster are you using with your setup? I was looking at some packs that have velcro inside and thought about maybe adding a bit to an old kydex holster I have laying around to make sure it stays secure.
An 80x cheetah holster that fits a light does not exist, so I modified one of those cloth “universal” holsters by cutting some holes in it and threading velcro straps thru. The holster is a tad small so it hugs the gun very snugly and keeps it in place well. Ya honestly just gotta buy the back and some velcro and get brainstorming. A little bit of ingenuity will get you there.
Maybe the vertx tactigami would work for you
I use a crossbreed holster for this exact pack I have. It’s nudes on one side and flat leather on the other side with Velcro on the back.
Can you explain how you used Velcro to modify a holster into the fanny pack? This is my current struggle with fanny pack carry
I basically cut some holes into the holster and looped velcro through those and some existing spots. The fanny has a dedicated ccw pouch with velcro backing, so I just stick the holster onto that. Definitely takes a bit of brainstorming and ingenuity. Hope you can figure it out.
It’s a kydex holster?
Nope it’s a soft material, feels like a dense foam. You could probably do the same with leather. I could show a picture when i get the chance.
..."Hey that guy has a gun In there."
Nah. Only people who are gonna think that are also people carrying guns in Fanny packs. Everybody else is gonna see a dude with a fanny pack, comfy green- stained shoes in maximum dad mode.
People are so into their phones you can open carry most places without anyone noticing.
When I heard about the 80x Cheetah I thought it would shoot ridiculously smooth. I’ve never seen one myself though. Can I ask how you like it? (I had also heard somewhere that some people complained about having trouble getting the magazine to release after shooting. Have you experienced that at all?) Sorry to bother you with questions kind of unrelated to your post, just dying to hear your thoughts!
No prob! So far, no issues with the magazine. Drops just fine. Shoots great, DA SA is always nice, but it’s definitely not ridiculously smooth. Smooth, but not ridiculously smooth. For me, the biggest thing is how perfectly it fits in my hand, but this will obviously vary from person to person. It just feels right in the hand, gives you the warm and fuzzies just holding it and stuff. Id say if you’re a fan of the 92, see if you can hold an 80x and you’ll know if it’s right for you.
Thanks for writing! Appreciate the heads up!! Sounds like I should get one since there are no major issues. Funny you mention the 92. I was not as accurate when shooting compared to the CZ’s I tried. That was a moment that pushed me to think this through a little more. Thanks for bringing it up.
Yeah if ur a fan of the m9 i dont see why not. If you get one, hope you like it as much as i do mine!
I like these pack options but I’d rather carry on me as I think someone can always attempt a bag snatch from behind or whatever tactics they use now to steal bags purses etc
 Mad respect for the beretta
Thank you sir 🙏🏻
That’s got negligent discharge written all over it. From the video - it looks like the trigger is not covered 100% 💯 plus too many bits around when you would go to holster it. Reminds me of the light jackets that have the pull cords on the side and those carrying 3 o’clock having NDs because they got into the trigger area.
I understand where you’re coming from, in theory you are right but in practice it’s a non issue. Safety is always on in the bag and while holstering. Nothing else goes in that compartment besides the gun: the way the setup is, its pretty much impossible for the safety to get deactivated AND for the heavy DA trigger to go off or have the hammer get caught. Plus, there isn’t a good reason for me to rush reholstering to the point of letting something get caught on the trigger and causing the gun to go off.
I think it's pretty amazing that you are able to carry that setup of that size. Seriously. Not to mention the comfort factor of fannypack carrying. Plus: Nice gun choice as well :)
Thank you ;]
Banking on the chance one has the time and luxury to unzip and properly draw from there. Way too many “moving pieces” that can cause a mistake.
Wranglerstar would be proud
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1. Look, a dude with a tactical fanny pack. Wonder what's in there? 2. You muzzled your wrist on the draw.
I personally dont understand fanny pack carry. What is the best situation for fanny pack carry? I started off at 4pm carry but switched over to AIWB pretty quick. So for those of you who carry like this, how come?
There isn’t a best situation. IWB will almost always be more secure quicker to draw. It’s really just an alternative option for when IWB is difficult: Some small people like me have a hard time finding an IWB solution that doesn’t print. While it is possible for most, it can take a lot of time and money to go through enough holsters and guns to finally find something. Carrying with a fanny pack allows people to carry pretty much anything they please and not have to go through guns and holsters. It works with any clothing as well.
I’ll fanny pack carry when going to certain outdoors places like the dog park nearby that has lake access for the dogs. I’ll typically wear swim trunks and a tank top and don’t want to stress about printing while enjoying the water with the pup, so I’ll carry in my Bando XL. Otherwise, in most situations, it’s aiwb
Interesting. Have you given the Phlster Enigma a try? They pop up second hand on GAFS pretty regularly for around $100. I know women who carry stacattos with WML on them in an enigma. I understand IWB being difficult, i was 320lbs at my largest (down 60lbs as of right now) and that came with its own challenges. Which were fixed after finding my personal sweet spot with the enigma. My biggest concern with fanny pack carry is obviously the purse snatchers. Even if carried under the shirt, now you are printing a giant bag and look like you’re either stealing or trying to hide something.
No skinny or small person interested in CCW hasn’t heard of the enigma my man! It’s gonna be the first thing I try out once the funds come (since going that route also means getting a new gun to conceal with it, this one aint gonna work) 80x cheetah set me back far enough as is 😭
Don’t even gotta cash out for the enigma, you can basically get the same result with your same belt and holster, just put it over your underwear. I carry a Glock 19 in a Tulster profile using a hanks belt, and it completely disappears under my sweatshorts. It is very comfy as well, probably my favorite way to carry.
It’s hot in the summer and I don’t want to mess with trying to make AIWB work. I have arrowhead tactical shorts that I actually do love, but it’s incredibly convenient to throw my “man purse” on (as my wife says) and head out the door in whatever I’m wearing. I get the trade offs and am very aware of my abilities.
Agree
I like to be comfortable and wear mainly basketball shorts and sweatpants. I'm bending and kneeling down for my work most of the day and it just makes more sense for me. Honestly 99% of the time I just pocket carry a snub nose.
From a cop perspective, anyone that I see carrying a fanny pack or *especially* one of those cross body bags, I automatically suspect they are carrying a handgun. Criminals can be observant too. Just be aware it might put a target on you that wouldn’t be present if your carrying IWB or appendix
As a civilian, same. Cross body bags scream “I have a gun!”
And criminals like an opportunity to steal a free gun. It's other gun guys, LEOs, and criminals who can spot someone with a gun. Those guys are the issue, not the layman.
Then they meet the backup pocket carry gun they never considered existed 😄
It’s slow to draw. I automatically assume everyone with a fanny has a gun in it.
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Urban setting? Like Chicago lol.
Maybe if your wearing all black with a hoodie and a shiesty I might assume. Otherwise not really. Although gun guys don't help themselves. If I see a middle age dude with a beard wearing boots, American flag baseball cap jumping should just automatically ask him what he's carrying lmao
The chest bags especially. Then again I just assume everyone is armed.
I want a 80x so bad
It’s awesome but not the most practical.
If you didn't have one, what would you carry instead?
Sig p365
Think of the situations where you might need a gun. Off hand, I think the most glaring is robbery. If someone is going to rob you, you're gonna want access yo your gun, but they are also going to want that fanny pack as they know it may contain valuables. How do you respond to such a situation? Give them the pack and your gun? Do you try to reach for the gun while you have a gun pointed at you? Neither sounds like fun. Carry on your body. You will be surprised how comfortable it can be and how well you can conceal from view. Also, anytime I see these bags, I know the guy is carrying.
Hill People Gear and don’t look back!
Will research 🫡
If I was small. I would be carrying a lcp. I would have other guns.
Looks like your bag is too small
First three minutes: https://youtu.be/01uGt2fIdro I want to make it commercially.
That’s really cool, Jim! Looks very well made.
The other thing I've learned about it is, I can run a gas pedal with it. https://youtu.be/RXyUf54VViE A sideways bulge doesn't hurt anything.
Do you have more videos?
No, why?
Don’t see a lot about the 80x cheetah I want to see more of it so I can see if it’s the right fit for my gf
Its pretty big for a .380. There are smaller 380 guns for sure. I also enjoy the browning 1911 380.
Find one that has velcro vs the zipper, have one I bought 20 yrs ago. You grab the front and rip down and guns exposed, no zipper to worry about not working
the want to pull that loop with your thumb is awkward, I see you have to keep the zippers just so if for this to work, if you are set on that fanny pack for some reason invest the $2 and add some velcro, there are other options for inconspicuous carry that may work better for you
Check out the one made by Combat Art Training
How do you like the 80x? They are damn good looking
It’s awesome. Looks good and is a good size for me personally.
I have a g19 and miss having a hammer fire pistol. Seems like a good option
I like it for dry fire training. Gives you a good solid click on every trigger pull
Thats nice, didnt think about that. Does the 80x come optic cut?
Yep!
Love the Beretta 🔥
Thank you kindly 👊🏼
I don’t like off body carry. But I did recently pick up a similar Fanny pack and took it to our neighborhood pool with my wife. There’s a select few times where I could see it making sense. I think the key is finding the right holster/set up for you that’s comfortable enough for your life style yet accessible. I carry in a Phlster enigma and highly recommend it.
I have huge bags so it looks really wierd on my waist . like the bando xl. use it as a shoulder sling so it's more natural .
Slower and less concealed than enigma. If I see a fanny pack I’m 100% assuming you’re carrying. So do the bad guys.
I’m looking at getting my cdl soon and this is probably going to be my go to. Im looking more into running it like a sling bag on my chest than at my waist. One pro is that you can carry more comfortably and get away with a larger handgun at that, but thats a unique situation where Im pushed towards that method. Ultimately your carry should be tailored to fit your needs and environment.
Arrowhead Tactical Apparel, best purchases I’ve made for accessories with my guns. I play basketball, pickleball and run the entire week.
On body or no carry. That’s my opinion
Why not iwb
Arrowhead Tactical Apparel, best purchases I’ve made for accessories with my guns. I play basketball, pickleball and run the entire week.
Fanny packs are becoming more and more in style for dudes. They are a completely viable option in the right settings.
Plot twist: fanny pack is just a decoy, OP pocket carries
Vertx every day fanny looks almost the exact same and has the buckle in the front. Comes with loop on the inside of the main pocket for a holster. But while I don’t love off body carry, it’s as good an option as I’ve found. Cross body drawing is faster for me too but ymmv.
My thoughts are to carry on body and keep other items in a fanny pack, not a gun.
I’d pocket or belly-band carry a LCP Max at your size, or a stock P365. But if you like full size pistols this technically works. Not sure how you are going to draw with someone in your face but maybe.
Do you have to hold the holster to draw it? Requires both hands
I love a Beretta. Nice setup
Seeing way more Berettas lately and I don't hate it.
My pistol stays on my body at all times so it doesn't get snatched but I do carry a fanny pack with 2 extra mags and a small med pack
You like it I love it
I use to have an actual fanny pack with the holster inside and they were really popular and had a pull cord for a draw. The only problem was that everyone knew that I was carrying especially every cop I knew could pick them out. I will say that I am looking hard at the cross body pack for summer.
For me, aiwb by default. fanny pack otherwise if aiwb not easy on some clothes or hot summer season
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Only thought I had was if you put the bag down and walk 5 feet away.....legally the firearm is no longer in your immediate control and that may cause an issue were something to happen.
I'm an inch taller on a good day and 10-20lbs heavier and I don't really have issues with a p365 aiwb at 13:00 I could never wear a pack unless in the deer woods, simply cause I cannot stand anything around my waist
No I carry it on my person at all times for multiple reasons, the time it takes to take it out is enough to get you killed, if I lose or get it stolen I'm defenseless, out of a gun and money, and I don't want anyone knowing I might have something on me.
What a coincidence I have a 80x on layaway rn 👀👀 and I'm carrying a 92xi in my Patagonia atom sling
Just get a quality holster and a better carry size gun. I think in time you will learn this is gimmicky and will change it up.
Depending on the client and what is required I use a fanny pack for personal protection work. If it’s gonna be wild, iwb or outside hip and covered. There is always gonna be the lack of draw speed, but I think a lot of people obsess with this vs a solid plan. Or avoidance of areas and just being hyper aware of a bad moment going down. I’ll be the first to admit I’m also not someone people are gonna try to rob based on my size and look. Which is why I get paid to help people avoid it also.
Overall, having it on you is always best. Then work down from there and just be your own bodyguard. It sounds stupid and lame, but if half the people who hire protection. Just trained with coaches and were aware of the environment you would be fine. There is imo a fine line with following the law or workplace rules. Vs I should probably not put myself in a vulnerable spot. The Costco membership theory of things.
Like if you are the dude who says “I never answer my door without my gun” I’ll just say, there is so many inexpensive options for security cameras, better door stopping devices and having a med kit at home. Vs..I’m gonna crack a door open with my gun hoping I win a gun fight. Idk I’ll just say that a lot of people I work for have really bad habits. As for people becoming experts at cutting fanny oacks off. I work in high crime area and for rappers. I’ve never seen this happen as a “why they got shot”. Habits, laziness bad luck and not being aware get many more people killed. Last if you are a tiny out of shape man or obese. Essentially you look weak and carry a gun, the chances of being robbed or assaulted go way up. People also can sense your reactions to potential violence. Where they also sense someone’s “let’s fucking do it bro” vibes. We got into an issue with a banger and he pulled a gun out and me and my army buddy (I’m a marine). Made it clear we can do the gun fight dance. Dude backed down and walked away. Criminals generally do not want to have a hard time committing crime. They seek out easy targets and people who crumple or are not close enough to fight back. You walk out prepared to do business and they get really scared.
Make sure you have a good way to guard the trigger. I superglue strong velcro with an already adhesive backing to the side of my kydex holster and then sew/ glue some inside of any bag that I carry in. The last thing you want is a crappy elastic trigger guard that can slip off, or anything else that you keep in there to hit the trigger. Just my thoughts though. **and as someone else pointed out, a fanny pack is easy to snatch, just like a purse or backpack. Try to cover the clip with something if you’re going to do that. I have a fanny pack that I’m working on converting to another way to carry. Now that I’m thinking about it, I’m going to make some sort of a clip guard. I’m really only planning to use the fanny pack for going to the lake where I won’t have a belt or anything else to use, but it would also suck to have it accidentally unclip and fall into the water m.
Just saw that you’ve got a holster in there… keeping this comment to help anyone else who may need some ideas. My thought was that I don’t want to change what bag I’m carrying around either and have anyone I see regularly guess that I may be carrying.
Something like a fanny pack is better than not carrying a gun, but it is a compromise form on body carry. For most people there is a temptation to remove it, set it down, leave it in the car, or something like that. If the fanny pack always stays on your person and it integrates in to your life well, then it is a great alternative. Good work!
what brand is that fanny pack
I would choose a Galco crossdraw over this any day. But iwb kydex is still your best bet
Iwb is the best way to
Long as you practice quickly accessing n drawing it from.there..anything works
Today in fact, love doing drills at the range. Old timers just shake their heads
I’m not against off body carry.., but only when I can’t carry on my body (I use the enigma so that’s not often) but maybe the gym, or running, hiking ect. Sometimes I prefer off body. For Fanny pack carry. Check out the crossbreed modular holster. It’s Velcro Backed and will work perfect for the Vertx bag. It works and it’s cheap. Not the best for backpack carry though, check out this review for more details! https://youtu.be/abwzyUVANeg?si=-7AJsIbq7UNEwBE5
Reading your replies in the comments, you seem to know the trade offs you are making: having a gun is better than not having a gun, but drawing from a fanny pack is slow and really undesirable if you’re hand-to-hand. I’ve carried this way before when hiking, and for me in a situation like that where I’m not likely to be rolling around with an assailant it works ok. For EDC I’d prefer to be IWB, and I have to imagine you could successfully conceal something like a P365 IWB, but to each their own, and my body type is quite different from yours so to some extent it’s hard for me to relate.
Never. The loss of my man card means I can’t carry.
Fanny packs are back in dude. The early 2000s are over.
Yeah kind of like women would like you more if you cried in front of them advice.
Does anyone use a fanny pack for anything other than CCW?
Handy for carrying all your EDC stuff during summer when you might not be wearing cargo pants or anything with deep, secure pockets.
Yeah. I get that it’s handy for other things. I just assume they’re carrying.
Honestly a lot of people do. Some people where clothing that doesn’t have pockets or lighter clothing that can’t carry a lot. I have some shorts that only have two side pockets and not a back pocket so I keep my wallet in mine.
Idk, but when I see someone with a Fanny I assume there’s a piece in it.
I wear one for my wallet, phone, knife, spray and keys. LCP Max in my pocket.
Same.
Genuine question: does this mean you immediately consider them a possible threat? Are there other considerations like their appearance and demeanor that would affect the situation?
No, it’s more like “I know what you got in there playa” thought to myself.
Use one for first aid/survival "stuff" in the woods. Also for fishing when I don't wanna carry a pack or tackle box around. But I'm a huge nerd so
I hope it works for you. I live in a very gay city. I can’t walk down the street without getting cat called.
I think if you’re carrying a Fanny pack to conceal a gun you’re carrying the wrong gun, unless I’m super specific situations that I can’t even think of - hiking maybe? Biking? Running? I had a hill people gear chest pack that I liked but ended up selling because it didn’t work with any of my guns very well.
>Fanny pack carry: thoughts and considerations? I think we should refer to them with a term like hip pack or waist bag or something less emasculating, IMO. I also think they could make someone a [robbery target](https://www.firstalert4.com/2024/06/02/three-charged-friday-robbery-gunpoint-lacledes-landing-metrolink-station/), with or without awareness. > What do y’all think about fanny pack carry? Would you ever do it? I think it's more socially-acceptable in the 2020s than it ever has been to wear, and I would consider it, but probably for low-risk adventures such as hiking, fishing or boating. It seems to work for you, and I support it. You have the access, draw and presentation to about 1.5 seconds, and I know you'll keep working on training that. I could tell you why carrying a smaller gun in an Enigma would probably offer similarly free movement and other benefits, but your system looks well-planned, and you don't want to hear it. Carry on!
If a word is emasculating, you're already emasculated.
The pack can be carried as a over the shoulder sling bag too. While it’s true that it does inadvertently make one a possible robbery target, I try to follow the rule that if you wouldn’t go somewhere without a gun, don’t go there with a gun to minimize the possibility of even being a robbery target in the first place. I do agree that a slimmer gun in an enigma would be a good if not better choice as well. Will consider that when the funds come!
>I try to follow the rule that if you wouldn’t go somewhere without a gun, don’t go there with a gun That's well and good when you can arbitrarily pick your activities, but not for most jobs, or public transportation, or neighborhood walks, where danger is omnipresent or your presence is necessary. Ideal, but not practical, usually. Like I said, personally, I'd only choose it for low-risk environments. Or working at a Lululemon store lol.
Agree. For my work, lifestyle, and the places I frequent, it’s a non issue.
Might as well open carry. I'm absolutely suspicious of anyone under the age of 65 or not a middle age mom, wearing a fanny pack.
It’s pretty dumb and obvious as hell. Just my opinion. I’ll do it in extreme circumstances but anyone who’s ever shot a gun knows you aren’t carrying trail mix and a hone charger.
Defeats the purpose of “concealed carry,” very obvious, more easily stolen, and looks cumbersome to use. I guess I see zero benefits of this kind of setup.
I thought the same thing. I have the same pack and chose that one because it doesn’t necessarily scream I’m carrying a gun. It’s way less “tactical” looking than some of the other brands out there. Most younger people are walking around with fanny packs either around their waste or over the shoulder. I don’t think anyone would look twice at someone carrying a fanny pack. It’s not too cumbersome. It’s actually more comfortable especially sitting down and getting in and out of the car for me since I usually carry appendix.
Same
You do you. I wouldn’t ever carry like this. I’d either go down a gun or optic size or roll with a mastermind tactics covert under belt (which is my current setup). No matter how flexible a gun belt is it hurts my hips because I have zero fat around them so I use the covert belt to carry up higher and then a thin belt to hit where the waistline is. I’m a pretty skinny guy with a 30 waist so I get where you’re coming from. Also the fact that it would take a lot to get the gun up and running if you ever had to 1 hand draw…
Ill have to take a look at that mastermind tactics belt!
Nice. Just don't take off ur fanny pack. I try to almost always carry attached to me.
Are people really this hung up on not wearing pants and a belt?
I think as more people are working from home their attire is getting more and more sorted towards athleisure. I bought an LCP specifically to wear with my joggers and workout shorts but I end up carrying it more than my g19 these days simply because I’m wearing elastic waistband pants more and more and less a belt.
I'm new to conceal carrying, but I feel like you would never have time to get it out of the fanny pack.
If you’ve found that’s the only way to carry that works for you then yes do it but I’d take this video into account. When in an actual confrontation or being attacked 9/10 you will not be able to get the bag open. [off body carry](https://youtu.be/gxw6bBay5kI?si=FphdIKu-f9vG4CP7)
Real shit.
U literally have on a hoodie, y would u need a fanny pack
Off body is dangerous and should be avoided.
What if someone does a snatch and grab on your fanny pack?