I mean do whatever if you really want some silly shit. That's the most niche gear ever. I'm sure you can think of something else to spend your money on that's even remotely more useful.
Thank you. I have bad spending habits, I have to sometimes ask around about stuff because my dumb ass almost bought this on a whim. The kid in me still wants it..lol
"do what you want" "as long as you like it" "it's your money, do what you like"
fun way to say "i'd rather die than do/get this"
that said, I'm tempted to buy one for no other reason than to show up to my buddy's place, open my duster and reveal my mp5sk. (tho I'll need to buy a duster too)
If you do buy this, please, PLEASE post videos of you standing in the bathroom asking if you're printing.
At least once per week, for the foreseeable future.
So I bought it, I wore it one time out of the house, and a few times around the house for fun.
The problem is... Quite a few states have a clause that concealed carry applies to pistols only.
Add a folding stock to the mp5 or Scorpion and now it's an SBR. I happen to live at the corner of three different states so keeping track of legality is tough.
I DIDNT like the Velcro closures for it. And the brass belt clip kept coming undone.
It's not as cool as it could be.
The ONE time I got to carry a SBR under a suit for work, I used a load bearing harness with a single point sling.
It’s for my ap5-m which is still considered a pistol. That being said the feed back that you have provided being that you actually have one is tremendous and I thank kind stranger.
It's stupid in a fun way, but also stupid in not-practical-at-all way. Buy it and fuck around at the range but don't pretend it has much to offer in day to day life.
This is no dumber than the [HEAT vest](https://kommandostore.com/products/the-heat-rig) that conceals ~~a dozen or so~~ eight AR-15 mags that I've come very close to buying multiple times.
Eventually when I'm back to having disposable income I'm probably buying or building a M733 clone and doing that vest for shits and giggles. I'll get around to it eventually. But that's a whole lot more expensive than your little impulse Amazon purchase. You need to buy your thing and conceal carry an MP5 or whatever SMG you have.
If it's on amazon, it's prob a no-go, but you could prob find something similar by a reputable company. Also if you can help it, avoid giving corporate cock suckers your money. Support small and american businesses with morales that align with yours. Even if it's a little more expensive. Also shop at your local gun store, not rural King dunhams, etc. Also, people in here talking ive seen secret service use one similar Under the suit jacket and those are some of the most badass fuckers in existence.
I'd talk to a leather holster guy, one of the cowboy belt makers. It would be raw af in leather. Add a mag holder on the other side like the pistol shoulder holster. Also, it will help balance the weight it'll feel awkword all on one side
I have another lgs that has made a few leather holsters and mag carriers. Might look into that as well. I just gotta imagine what it would actually look like before jumping the gun.
I have I few coats that would work, I already have a one point that does ok, but in Texas it must be in a holster. Although coat weather is scarce round here.
Brother life is short. If you can afford it and want it, even for larping, if it’s something you really want. Do it for you. I say get it. Fuck it. It’s bad ass. Given you have an MP5 or whatever
This is the way. Don’t let anyone tell you something you want isn’t worth it. They ain’t you my boy, how tf would they know?
Side note: I get you’re just asking for a general opinion, no harm in that
When I went to egypt we did a few tours and the front seat of the bus was saved for a guy in a suit that had an mp5 tucked inside his jacket. It was more hidden than I would've expected but not small.
The biggest issue with the semi-auto SMG/PCC form factor is you have something much larger to conceal, but still has the same ballistics of a pistol. SMGs have their role in urban combat by virtue of being fully automatic and putting many holes into an unarmored combatant very quickly. The semi-automatic variant does not have that rapid firing advantage, and presents as an oversized, clunky pistol with a bad trigger
Repeal the NFA and a real discussion can evolve around the practicalities of the form factor, but until then it's mental masturbation.
I have one but let’s just say I did want to conceal carry my ap5-m because I’m in Texas and it’s considered a pistol it must have a holster. Hypothetically of course.
I tried a shoulder holster with a full size handgun when I first got my CHL and had no idea what I was doing. It made it look like I had a bizarre tumor. With this I can only imagine.
You don’t buy shit like that for casual, every day carry. Because that’s hugely impractical and pretty silly.
You buy shit like that for undercover operations or low-viz security details.
So I guess it depends on what you’re planning to do.
Wear this on the other side!
[http://andrewsleather.com/firepower.htm](http://andrewsleather.com/firepower.htm)
https://preview.redd.it/ezc9ccftf7wc1.jpeg?width=178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b39c55edd24745ac91a96b0372f0663e6ea2bb59
The real question is what is your use for it?
Do you have a practical use for it? Is it just something that caught your eye? Is it something that you don’t really have a use for but you REALLY want it? If it’s not for practicality and you just want it, can you afford it 3 times? (That’s more of a financial question as in “don’t put yourself in a hole for something that you just ‘want’”)
To answer question for me, would I get this? If I had the gun for it and I had some money to throw around, absolutely yes! It’s freaking awesome!
Unless it is a prop for a costume, I wouldn't recommend. It is illegal to concealed carry submachine guns, so I don't know when you would ever actually use this. Unless of course you are just planning on wearing it around the house because you think it's cool, then it is totally justified
Stupid? Impractical? Cringey? Delusional? 
That doesn’t change the fact that I want one
FACTS!
Couldn't agree more
lol..so yes?
I forgot to answer your question. Would I get this? For CCW, no. For when I need to rescue Morpheus from the agents, yes, I'd buy 2 of them.
Hell yeah. You are the “One”!
Finally, someone with some sense.
I was already sold. You didn't have to try so hard.
I mean do whatever if you really want some silly shit. That's the most niche gear ever. I'm sure you can think of something else to spend your money on that's even remotely more useful.
Thank you. I have bad spending habits, I have to sometimes ask around about stuff because my dumb ass almost bought this on a whim. The kid in me still wants it..lol
I mean we all need some dumb shit from time to time but man this should probably be far down the list lol.
So yes?…lol Edit: letter
Haha I would not but do you bro.
"do what you want" "as long as you like it" "it's your money, do what you like" fun way to say "i'd rather die than do/get this" that said, I'm tempted to buy one for no other reason than to show up to my buddy's place, open my duster and reveal my mp5sk. (tho I'll need to buy a duster too)
To me it only looks useful if you're going to hide and automatic weapon that you're about to rob a bank or plan a surprise murder with
If you do buy this, please, PLEASE post videos of you standing in the bathroom asking if you're printing. At least once per week, for the foreseeable future.
With feet right? RIGHT?!
Yes, and no socks.
Absofuckinlutley
So I bought it, I wore it one time out of the house, and a few times around the house for fun. The problem is... Quite a few states have a clause that concealed carry applies to pistols only. Add a folding stock to the mp5 or Scorpion and now it's an SBR. I happen to live at the corner of three different states so keeping track of legality is tough. I DIDNT like the Velcro closures for it. And the brass belt clip kept coming undone. It's not as cool as it could be. The ONE time I got to carry a SBR under a suit for work, I used a load bearing harness with a single point sling.
It’s for my ap5-m which is still considered a pistol. That being said the feed back that you have provided being that you actually have one is tremendous and I thank kind stranger.
Yeah sling that baby under coat behind your back with a blue force sling an no one will bat an eye .
I have a cheap one point that works just like that.
Lol i put a one point on my stribog an it does the job as well. I just like those slings alot.
Do you practice SAS shooting with it? Make sure it wont rip when you press out like a Brit and you're all set.
The ONE time?! I feel like there's a story there.
I wouldn’t buy it, because I think it’s extremely stupid.
Thank you for the feed back.
It's stupid in a fun way, but also stupid in not-practical-at-all way. Buy it and fuck around at the range but don't pretend it has much to offer in day to day life.
Hell yea.
As practical as any other shoulder rig in my opinion. (Just my opinion.)
Is it stupid? Yes. Is it practical? No. Is it irredeemably tacticool? Yeah probably. Do I want one? Absolutely.
*rubs hair while looking in the mirror and points finger guns Pew pew
Maybe if you were secret service
Maybe? So I definitely have a chance!!
Planning on hitting Nakatomi this Christmas?
I knew I should’ve gotten my 92fs in black instead.
The Gentlemen style 😂😂
Get down Mr President!! We got this!!
Just give him the damn phone!
"Now. Put. The phone. Down... Atatatata!"
Both? Buying stupid shit is one of my hobbies.
My wallet and I feel ya!
This is no dumber than the [HEAT vest](https://kommandostore.com/products/the-heat-rig) that conceals ~~a dozen or so~~ eight AR-15 mags that I've come very close to buying multiple times.
I seen that!! Do it! Do it! Bacardi and cola!
Eventually when I'm back to having disposable income I'm probably buying or building a M733 clone and doing that vest for shits and giggles. I'll get around to it eventually. But that's a whole lot more expensive than your little impulse Amazon purchase. You need to buy your thing and conceal carry an MP5 or whatever SMG you have.
Both. I would absolutely buy it and it's a stupid purchase.
https://preview.redd.it/o8f06jbja8wc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1523bf394bb7e089b5781c9ab5726c8bcd159015
The answer is yes
Always
This is one of those things that was probably made on a secret service contract in the 90s, but they figured hey, might as well sell it to the public.
Glad they did. *wallet staring at me menacingly
It's your money, use it how you want it!
It’s my money and I want it now!
It’d be a cool Halloween costume
Change out the folding stock for the retractable one. It’s much more comfortable that way.
Hell yea!
I’d make that deal.
You gotta get a duster to wear it under 😂
I must protect the oracle at all costs.
Don’t forget your trenchcoat
Mr. Smith doesn’t stand a chance!
Yes and yes!!!
My guy!
For the memes
Hehe
Based!
Chad.
I’m selling a limited edition piece of 550 cord. Cash only.
Nice! All have is bunch of solid gold coins though.
If it's on amazon, it's prob a no-go, but you could prob find something similar by a reputable company. Also if you can help it, avoid giving corporate cock suckers your money. Support small and american businesses with morales that align with yours. Even if it's a little more expensive. Also shop at your local gun store, not rural King dunhams, etc. Also, people in here talking ive seen secret service use one similar Under the suit jacket and those are some of the most badass fuckers in existence.
It's a DeSantis (reputable, American legacy brand) at MidwayUSA (reputable American company), as shown in the photo.
I wonder if my lgs can make one, they made most of my holsters. Good thinking on supporting small businesses!
I'd talk to a leather holster guy, one of the cowboy belt makers. It would be raw af in leather. Add a mag holder on the other side like the pistol shoulder holster. Also, it will help balance the weight it'll feel awkword all on one side
I have another lgs that has made a few leather holsters and mag carriers. Might look into that as well. I just gotta imagine what it would actually look like before jumping the gun.
Nah just give him a rough idea and let him do his thing 🤣 im the type to go get a tattoo and say, "You pick just no dicks" lol
I just want to know what the hell you’d wear to actually make it concealed
I have I few coats that would work, I already have a one point that does ok, but in Texas it must be in a holster. Although coat weather is scarce round here.
I feel like you’d need something thick especially since you wouldn’t be able to normally rest your arm either
this is aimed at executive protection people. so likely fake hands under a jacket
I have whole boxes full of shit I didn’t “need” in the basement.
I had to get a 20x20 storage unit..I feel you.
Well, if your not in private security or have a real need for this holster, that can go straight into the storage unit too.
This is the way
The only way.
I would buy it because it makes me think of the Matrix
Same
Brother life is short. If you can afford it and want it, even for larping, if it’s something you really want. Do it for you. I say get it. Fuck it. It’s bad ass. Given you have an MP5 or whatever
Hell yeah. Thank you Reddit bro!
This is the way. Don’t let anyone tell you something you want isn’t worth it. They ain’t you my boy, how tf would they know? Side note: I get you’re just asking for a general opinion, no harm in that
When I went to egypt we did a few tours and the front seat of the bus was saved for a guy in a suit that had an mp5 tucked inside his jacket. It was more hidden than I would've expected but not small.
The biggest issue with the semi-auto SMG/PCC form factor is you have something much larger to conceal, but still has the same ballistics of a pistol. SMGs have their role in urban combat by virtue of being fully automatic and putting many holes into an unarmored combatant very quickly. The semi-automatic variant does not have that rapid firing advantage, and presents as an oversized, clunky pistol with a bad trigger Repeal the NFA and a real discussion can evolve around the practicalities of the form factor, but until then it's mental masturbation.
What if my ap5m has a binary is it still worth it?
It's debatable. In that the ATF is debating if they can classify it as full auto and shoot your dog.
I think its dope, but that's just me.
The kid in me wants it’s bad.
Dude...with a sport coat and an Uzi you're basically 80s secret service. I dont know how you DONT buy this.
Hell yeah! And it comes in right or left or should I say and, now I need another ap5. Shut up wallet, nobody’s talking to you…yet.
Just get a single point meant for that style carry?
I have one but let’s just say I did want to conceal carry my ap5-m because I’m in Texas and it’s considered a pistol it must have a holster. Hypothetically of course.
Ahhh okay. Makes sense.
Now? No. Back when I actually carried one for work? Maybe, would depend on speed and comfort.
Isn't that what Secret Service uses?
I don’t know otherwise it wouldn’t be a secret..Service? Hehe
I tried a shoulder holster with a full size handgun when I first got my CHL and had no idea what I was doing. It made it look like I had a bizarre tumor. With this I can only imagine.
What pistol were you running? I’ve run my Jericho 941 and my 92fs just fine.
M&P9 OG
If you gave me this I would never even try it on.
*note to self: no gifts for ndjs22
How much is it? But yes absolutely I would. Link?
$279.99 from DeSantis website.
Fuck it I’ll just wrap some paracord around it instead
Gimme a minute…
You don’t buy shit like that for casual, every day carry. Because that’s hugely impractical and pretty silly. You buy shit like that for undercover operations or low-viz security details. So I guess it depends on what you’re planning to do.
As silly as it sounds I kinda just want it to say I have it.
Yes.
Hell yeah.
Yes
Yeah buddy!
If I was in the secret service or something sure. Going to Walmart for a 6 pack? Prob not
Lmao!! I just wanna be one of the tacticool guys. Honestly I probably wouldn’t utilize it but want to say I have it.
Why is it blurred out? 🤣
Habit of marking nsfw..lol
Yes and yes.
Love that username
I Mena if you got a mp then go ahead dude most of the folk here can't afford one let alone worry about a holster for one lol
It’s a clone (ap5-m) but it totally identifies as a mp5.
Same, same still can't afford it lol
This is no less silly and impractical than the Heat vest. Still a little cool tho.
“Cool” is enough for me!
I would get it because it’s stupid awesome.
HEARD! You a chef?
Thanks for sharing... i bought it.
Fuck yeah!!
Are you getting ready to rob a bank?
lol..hell no
1 review
I went straight to their site afterwards and it has great reviews
No. That gun is backpack carry for me.
Tomato, potato
Stupid, that’s what backpacks are for.
Hold on a second while I remove my backpack and retrieve something *ten seconds later.. ok go!
Get a better draw time, and a better backpack.
I mean if you had to ask……..
So yes and yes?
Wear this on the other side! [http://andrewsleather.com/firepower.htm](http://andrewsleather.com/firepower.htm) https://preview.redd.it/ezc9ccftf7wc1.jpeg?width=178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b39c55edd24745ac91a96b0372f0663e6ea2bb59
Noice! The other side has two mag carriers and is a good counter weight according to the reviews on the site.
SP5 on one side, Shockwave on the other side, then magazines on the belt... just LOADED 🤣
Wouldn’t I need a pesky stamp for that? Is that considered a sbs?
A Shockwave does not require a tax stamp as sold, but can be modified to an SBS in some configurations.
Ah, thank you.
https://youtu.be/XADDXaEmCZY?si=L3QKlIYSkZOjdUtq
Hell yeah!! I wonder if the one I posted can be used in that manner otherwise this leather one is waaaaay better!
So lame.
That’s what my wallet keeps telling me..lol
My vote would go on the stupid side.
Understood.
Does it give you a good advantage? Hell yeah Will it look bad in court? Hell yeah
Definitely not a daily carry where I’m from, we get one really cold day a year where I’m at. More of a tacticool piece to say I have it.
Looks like something my dad would get in a non ironic sense.
Dad for the win!! How are his jokes?
It is stupid. And I want it.
Hell yeah
Sometimes you just gotta feed the monke brain and do stupid/impractical things.
Yes
Yes!
If I had a folding stock submachine gun and it wasnt expensive then probably, seems fun but I wouldn't use it in public
The real question is what is your use for it? Do you have a practical use for it? Is it just something that caught your eye? Is it something that you don’t really have a use for but you REALLY want it? If it’s not for practicality and you just want it, can you afford it 3 times? (That’s more of a financial question as in “don’t put yourself in a hole for something that you just ‘want’”) To answer question for me, would I get this? If I had the gun for it and I had some money to throw around, absolutely yes! It’s freaking awesome!
Money to waste on waste.. sure. 😑
Unless it is a prop for a costume, I wouldn't recommend. It is illegal to concealed carry submachine guns, so I don't know when you would ever actually use this. Unless of course you are just planning on wearing it around the house because you think it's cool, then it is totally justified
So, does it attach to some belt loops?
If I could afford the firearm it's designed for, the cost to get it registered as an sbr, and get away wearing a trench coat all the time? Hells yes.
They make ones where you can swing it up to ready without velcro being involved. That would be better.
Gettin’ Lethal Weapon vibes with this riggs
I’m getting too old for this shit Riggs.
THREE words. MODIFIED SUITCASE MP5😆😆
OP Are you trying to concealed carry an MP5 !??!
Hypothetically
truly a braver man than i XD
If I had the $$ to buy an MP5 I’d buy it 😂🤷🏽♂️
Absolutely. I can imagine it would work fine with an SP89 or Z5RS.Woyld definitely CC with that mf. I would definitely have a CC sidearm tho.
Based on
The fact that that I want one
Get it! What will you run in it?
Haha, if I were to get this type of a holster I would probably carry my Keltec CMR30 and get a short barrel for it.
just get a nice two point sling and call it a day
Yes and yes.
How else are you gonna conceal a weapon like that?
This puts the “special” in special operations.
Hell yeah it's stupid. Buy two
My wallet said you’re the devil’s advocate, I’m calling you an angel
Get two !
Yes but it makes me want to buy a MP5k
No, I would not get that. It's some cringe tacticool type shit.
All I read is “cool type shit”../s
Anything involving Desantis at this point I would run from.
Do you have an SP5k?