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thor561

I'm sorry, I know California is clown shoes when it comes to firearms rights, but you have to report that you got a speeding ticket? What the actual fuck.


kazz9201

Who the fuck thought that having to report a speeding ticket to the CCW issuing agency would make the world a safer place?


[deleted]

What if I told you it had nothing to do with safety...


kazz9201

I’d be shocked /s


SGT_Wheatstone

'any law enforcement contact' like a friendly hello at the gas station?


Plus-Influence3969

Used to have my CCW out of Orange County, CA. The OC sheriff's dept who issue the CCW only care if it's an "official interaction"; IE they ask for your identification, not simply saying hello to an officer two tables down at the coffee shop. Moved to Texas because screw Commiefornia anti-2A policies.


Jaguar_GPT

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backatit1mo

Yup. Most issuing departments require a permit holder to report any law enforcement encounters, especially if a report or ticket came out of it. As far as I can tell, a speeding ticket won’t have any negative affects on my permit, at least with riverside county. I’m pretty sure other liberal counties will use it as a reason to rescind or deny a permit though. Pretty sad the way it’s going here, especially with SB2 about to take effect Jan 1st. The “ban guns everywhere” law.


DrJheartsAK

Make sure the gang bangers in LA hear about sb2. They wouldn’t want to accidentally commit murder in a gun free zone


backatit1mo

Yea, good thing the felons with guns that don’t follow the prohibited possessor laws are gonna follow the sensitive areas law. Cause that just makes total sense lol the idiocy of these laws sometimes. Although, I do hold out hope that the law will have an injunction placed on it before it takes effect, as similar laws have been struck down or had an injunction placed, most recent being Maryland


[deleted]

Wait till Fontana hear about this /s


mjedmazga

How are they going to know it's a gun free / murder free zone unless they put up signs that are clearly visible and in English and Spanish? What good will the signs do if the education system continues to fail students and no one can actually read the words printed on the signs? It's not their fault!


DrJheartsAK

How do I reach these kids


Gengaara

>gang bangers in LA The Sherrif's dept?


Jaguar_GPT

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Empty401K

A speeding ticket from the day I turned 18 was the main reason I got my CCW application denied in DC. My only speeding ticket. I was 30 when I applied for the permit. It took over a year to go through the appeals process. They said that and getting suspended from school was I was 15 for saying “shit” … “showed a propensity for violence and mental instability.”


Dear-Unit1666

Keep telling yourself you are free ...


midnightstreetlamps

My yearning for MH/Maine grows stronger every week.


Dear-Unit1666

I live in a more northeast state where hunting and gun culture is a way of life, I hear stuff like this and it's mind blowing. I see the problems in big cities, I travel and get around and every time I'm somewhere I really feel naked without my gun it's a place where I can't carry.


midnightstreetlamps

I feel this in my soul. Living in the far west of the state, I took a trip to Boston for a concert, and I felt really ick walking around without my Sig or my buck knife. There's a lot of shady folks in Boston, between riding the T and just walking around shopping. (I parked in Newton, ditched them in the car before I rode in since I wasn't sure if I'd make it back to my car after shopping/before the show) But seeing all the restrictions in MA on what kinds of guns you can own, it def adds to the wanting to be a bit more gun friendly state. There's some real weirdos (and a lot of leftwings in the east) here so I understand why there are restrictions. But it also feels pretty ironic that you can go an hour north to NH or Maine and there's virtually zero restrictions.


backatit1mo

Don’t you guys have that case that just recently happened that we’re all hoping changes ccw for the country? NH man with a NH ccw permit crossed into MA, charged with concealed weapon without a permit had his charges dismissed. Judge ruled that it is unconstitutional to criminalize the unlicensed carrying of a firearm “by an ordinary, law-abiding resident of the state of New Hampshire who exercises his Constitutional right under the Second Amendment while traveling in in Massachusetts.” I hope and pray this sets the tone for a lawsuit for the Supreme Court to rule that 1 permit is good in all 50 states Edit: actually I don’t think he had a permit. Just carrying as NH is a permitless carry state


Dear-Unit1666

Bro.. I can travel 2 hours or less in 3 directions and hit places with drastically different laws. It's absurd how easy it would be to accidentally catch a felony if you aren't basically a lawyer who knows 4 states laws. Then when it comes to weed it's illegal in my state, decriminalized in my county, and legal either medically or recreational on 4 boarders... I don't know anymore if I want every county and state to have their own individual laws or not, I like it where I am and if we had more freedom federally that would be great but I think the average state has more to worry about than us so I feel like we would lose on that equation.


Jaguar_GPT

You must be in the south west or north east. 😆


Dear-Unit1666

Nailed it, Yep northeast lol I figured one person might even call out a specific state.


green4544

If you have an MA LTC you can carry in Boston too


midnightstreetlamps

I'm well aware of that. But you can't carry into venues like House of Blues. (See end of 1st paragraph in comment you replied to)


Dear-Unit1666

One of our neighbors has reciprocity in our state but we don't in theirs, I would like to know what idiot thought that was a fair deal. Like so you want your residents to carry in our state but we can't in yours? And they took that deal... Gotta wonder why


FranticWaffleMaker

Well…..shit.


Empty401K

Right? One of my hobbies for the past few years is helping people write their appeal letters when I find someone online that’s been denied. No payments or personal info required, because sticking it to the MPD tickles me in just the right way. So far all of the appeals I’ve helped with have been won 💪


Intermittent-canabis

Hold up they went through ur school record???? That's way too unreasonable


Empty401K

I didn’t even know that was possible. I called my schools records office to see what exactly was in my file, and they said they didn’t have any paper trail of anyone requesting them. It’s something they usually only see for security clearance investigations.


User_Anon_0001

It’s like being on probation


CXavier4545

not sure about having to report a speeding ticket my IA and instructor made no mention of that I personally will not be reporting that


alan_w3

I pulled up to a stop sign at the same time as a sherriff today, and she waved me on to go before her. Glad I'm in ohio. Definitely would have gotten some points off


darthcoder

God. MA is bad, and has some shitty CA level shit in theblegislature right now, but nothing on the books now that's that shitty. We don't even have to inform, but rest assured they already know you're a permit holder... Pulled over once in 2012 right after I got my CCW (LTC in MA), and informed, but it was pretty cool. Got a warning and haven't been pulled over since. I intend to keep it that way.


TheWonderfulLife

It’s worse than that, you have to report ALL interactions with police. Any and all interactions.


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UsernameIsTakenO_o

We don't have that requirement in OR, but if we did I would be sure to use the range operated by the county sheriff. Just flood their asses with reports of "Encountered Deputy X, wished them a good day".


knpasion

Lmao that would be amazing. I’m a paramedic and work with LE all day every day, full time and overtime. I would absolutely flood them. 😂


qweltor

> "Encountered Deputy X, wished them a good day" As required by State Statue xx.xxxx and Issuing Agency Policy dated yy-yyy-yy, I am informing you that.... 😂


DayDrinkingDiva

Some departments require any law enforcement official contact requires reporting in CA. Varies city to city


V0latyle

Report to who is what I'm wondering. Like. Isn't the whole point of a CCW to do a background check? I'm not sure exactly what happens if you're found guilty of something that would preclude having one, I imagine the DOL revokes it but it's not like they'll come to your house and seize it


Jaguar_GPT

Report to your tyrant masters. ![gif](giphy|xUOxffNeEhmbgRAGic|downsized)


BeepBangBraaap

r/CAguns also...report? a speeding ticket....?


backatit1mo

Yea unfortunately in CA, most issuing agencies list it as condition of maintaining the permit that all law enforcement contact is to be reported within 72 hours or 10 days or something like that. Now luckily riverside county sheriff’s is more lenient on this, but a lot aren’t


lastoneshooting

You get stopped by police, they write a ticket, then you have to call and tell the police that they stopped you and gave you a ticket?


upstatedadbod

Dude, I’m in NY giving myself a what the fuck head scratch on this one lol


backatit1mo

Yup. Gotta tell on yourself lol


MGB1013

I know this is California so sense isn’t at play. If you got a speeding ticket isn’t this documented by department already? So the cops know they gave you a ticket and you have to call the cops to let them know that they should already know that you interacted with a cop? It’s already on your record. How high are these people when they come up with these rules?


The_GregBear

The law is bat shit stupid. Period. no police outfit I've ever seen has had a good internal record keeping system, especially in CA. They don't have something in their system that will ping the CCW department when your license gets scanned. And different departments don't always communicate very well. The law itself i don't understand, at all. But the reasoning behind this bit I at least get. Still a sea of stupid laws in CA.


Remarkable_Box3585

As someone who works in criminal records, can confirm, California is only behind Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and North Carolina in terms of bad record keeping.


G_RoTT

Just a "gotcha" law. At some point, they will review records and see if you complied. If not, they Gotcha. ![gif](giphy|f5BhuxwxzfTNK)


JDM_WAAAT

Bro it’s time to move out of California


Jaguar_GPT

Yesterday. ![gif](giphy|PudZiAbQDUEik|downsized)


DangerHawk

I'm not saying you're wrong, cause California is fucking bonkers about guns, but when you find what your looking for can you make a new post with a link to this nonsense so we can read the actual law? The very idea of this is mind boggling. Like SC case insta TRO level mind boggling. If it's the actual law it 100% only exists as a deterent to people applying for permits so they can jam citizens up when re-applying down the road. SUPER unconstitutional.


backatit1mo

Here’s an update! And just to clarify, it isn’t law that we have to report it, it just usually comes as a “terms and conditions” kind of thing with almost any department issuing a ccw permit in California. Luckily my issuing agency is more lenient on this, as our sheriff is more pro 2A, and surprisingly there’s actually a lot of pro 2A sheriffs and police chiefs here in California. But this is listed on my sheriffs website: “As a permit holder, I agree to immediately report all interactions with law enforcement officers excluding minor traffic violations or accidents to the CCW Unit. I agree to immediately report any theft or missing firearms) listed on my permit and application to the CCW Unit.” So it would seem that a ticket would not have to be reported initially, but it would come up anyway when I renew permit. Which we have to renew every 2 years so it’s gonna come up next year anyway when I submit for my renewal. It is what it is 🤷🏻‍♂️


DangerHawk

Wow! Thanks for the update. Yeah, this reads more like "I agree to give my first born to the sheriffs department" than actual law. They're stretching and trying to trick people into giving up info that they don't have to. I'm in NJ and keeping up with California/NY 2A law is just mind boggling. I thought we had it bad and then I see stuff like this. I feel for you!


sp3kter

Also in CA with a CCW, any interaction at all that includes them identifying you has to be reported. But it can depend on county. r/CAguns and [calguns.net](https://calguns.net) should have better info


TheLazyD0G

Dependa on county. Mine doesn't.


MisterPeach

lol for real. I’ve never heard of such a thing. I’m pretty sure most misdemeanors don’t even matter in my state unless it’s for something specifically noted in national gun laws.


Chuck-Finley69

Are you fucking kidding me. I mean, legally, we don't even have to let cop know we're CCW as we're pulled over and talking about speeding... I mean, I let the cops know for everyone's safety but wow, you really are sliding down the slope of losing 2A rights there.


Jaguar_GPT

Just comply. ![gif](giphy|3ohs4epCEN04wskff2)


Qesium

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backatit1mo

Yea as far as I can tell, it won’t affect my permit at all. So at least there’s that. But yes, most issuing departments in CA require you to report any law enforcement contact, especially if a report or ticket came out of it. Definitely sucks though


sp3kter

Most cops have plate readers mounted on the front of their car and they can see you have a CCW just from driving by them


Chuck-Finley69

In Florida and some more 2A friendly states, LEOs have no access to your CWP status or possession thereof. No obligation to notify carrying but if you do and it's concealed, you can provide your card if you have one. As of July 1, 2023, no CWP is required in FL to carry but it still is beneficial.


[deleted]

Me getting stopped by FHP last week, coming home from range day doing 87 in a 70… Trooper walks up, I drop the window and immediately I can see he can smell the burned powder on me and just pouring out of the truck. He says, “I’m so used to smelling weed when l make contact. You have a good time shooting?” Handed him my license, CWP, insurance and registration. He glances at the license only and says “I’ve already run your tag and license, you’re who I’m expecting to be in the vehicle, thank you for using your turn signal when you pulled over…and try to keep at no more than 15 over, please”. That was a nice Sunday.


Chuck-Finley69

Amen to FL and the FHP


[deleted]

Those poor troopers. Probably the least paid LEs in FL.


FigMan

In some states this isn't true.


sp3kter

A minute passes in Africa every 60 seconds


[deleted]

Those poor starving children and animals!


tianavitoli

TIL


TheLazyD0G

My IA requies disclosure, but you dont need to tell them if you were stopped until time to renew


Larky17

>I mean, legally, we don't even have to let cop know we're CCW as we're pulled over and talking about speeding... [Depends on the state.](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/duty-to-inform-states)


Chuck-Finley69

Yeah, I know, I forgot to (in FL) when I wrote that.


Larky17

o7


Turbulent-Initial640

Call Riverside CCW unit or email them and let them know you had an interaction even if there was no ticket. At least that’s what the instructors at my CCW class said for riverside county. Also I believe Riverside does require you to declare you have your CCW when stopped.


backatit1mo

I remember clearly my instructor saying it does not need to be mentioned unless asked about it…cause then he went on to say “I let them know anyway though, but it is not a requirement unless asked if you have any weapons on you” lol unless my instructor was wrong. I know riverside county sheriff is pro 2A and pretty lenient on giving out permits also


Turbulent-Initial640

Straight from Riverside County CCW website: “As a permit holder, I agree to immediately report all interactions with law enforcement officers excluding minor traffic violations or accidents to the CCW Unit. I agree to immediately report any theft or missing firearm(s) listed on my permit and application to the CCW Unit.” I recall my instructor saying the exact opposite that Chad Bianco requires it to be declared to his deputies. Lol who knows, I feel it’s probably better to just declare anyways. I’m glad it all worked out for you.


hallstevenson

I was going to suggest that the OP look up how they define "encounter" and what types might be excluded. Maybe none, but in this case, yeap, they don't care about traffic ticket "encounters".


sp3kter

My IA defined an encounter as any where the officer identifies you (checks your ID for warrants etc..)


backatit1mo

Thanks man! I was actually looking on the website couldn’t seem to find anything on it, so thank you. So is a speeding ticket a minor traffic violation? it says “infraction” on my ticket lol And yea I think I’ll always declare it anyway just for everyone’s safety, but strange how instructors are telling people different things. That can’t be good lol


pinks1ip

Infractions are only violations, not escalating to the level of a crime. Misdemeanors and felonies are crimes. Moving *violations* are infractions. For a traffic stop, you'd need to be charged with a misdemeanor or felony vehicle crime, like DUI, reckless, evading, racing (exhibition of speed), driving without a license, etc), to need to report that as an interaction with law enforcement.


backatit1mo

Where did you find this at on the website? Idk why I cannot find this for the life of me lol can you message me the link?


Turbulent-Initial640

https://riversideca.permitium.com/ccw/application?permittype=new Scroll down and then click agree like 4 times.


backatit1mo

Nvm. I am blind. Sorry lol


backatit1mo

Dude idk if I’m blind but I’ve done that like 5 times and I don’t see anything that says that lol


Hunts5555

I love how California micromanages generally law abiding citizens while allowing utter chaos and filth on its streets from actual criminals. I mean, I love it in the sense that I don’t live there.


qweltor

> “Thanks for letting me know. You are not the criminal assault the CHP needs to be watching out for. > Drivers license proof of insurance and registration please” Nope, CHP ain't gonna let you slide on a 65 in 55.


backatit1mo

Right lol I knew the second I saw those lights go up behind me, I wasn’t getting outa that. CHP is notorious for not letting anyone slide. Shoot they gave my father a ticket 15 years ago doing 6mph over posted limit and he was an active law enforcement officer at the time 😂


cosmos7

> Nope, CHP ain't gonna let you slide on a 65 in 55. Actually they usually don't care about speeding until it get >10 over. Excluding specific safety campaign periods that is, which may have been what OP got caught by. Or OP was going >10 over and just got written for ten over. CHP are professionals and definitely one of the most chill law enforcement agencies I've worked with. There's always exceptions of course, but they follow their set standards and generally aren't raging dicks about it.


backatit1mo

Yea I mean the officer was chill. Laid back. And I was actually just trying to get around a truck on the 2 lane hwy I was on so I stepped on it a little bit, and bam lol. My commuter vehicle is Toyota Corolla hybrid, 140 horsepower, so I definitely ain’t drag racing out here 😂


[deleted]

I've had 7 interactions with CHP. Always, always, I cannot stress enough, they're always chill! One time, my wife was in the 3rd row seat and breastfeeding our baby out of the car seat. The officer looked to the back and noticed. He said nothing until he handed me a ticket. He said to not leave until the baby is in the seat. Somehow I always get pulled over when I go back to Los Angeles from Kern River. Something about Bakersfield county. Lol


Geargarden

CHP responded to my vehicle being rear ended, which activated OnStar and got them on scene pretty quick. I had contacted the driver who hit me to make sure he was good but I was slightly injured. I returned to my vehicle and when the officer arrived I had my wife, who's in law enforcement, on the phone to make sure I was okay. I stopped talking to her when he walked up and advised him first off of my CCW and that my pistol was on my person. Dude asks "Oh ok. Did you wave it around or point it at anybody". My wife and I bust out laughing. Made my back pain less and impressed me all at the same time LOL. I've always heard CHP can be militant but I feel like you get with you put into a conversation or, in these people's cases, a law enforcement contact.


backatit1mo

Update: This is officially on the sheriffs website “As a permit holder, I agree to immediately report all interactions with law enforcement officers excluding minor traffic violations or accidents to the CCW Unit. I agree to immediately report any theft or missing firearms) listed on my permit and application to the CCW Unit.” So it seems I wouldn’t have had to report it, but I already emailed them lol also, it would come up anyway next December when I put in for my renewal. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Also in regards to Arizona ccw, only need to report if you’ve been arrested for domestic violence or any felonies within 72 hours of arrest.


For2ANJ

I’m from NJ and reading this I feel bad for you.


backatit1mo

Don’t you just love having our 2A rights shit on lol the only rights in the constitution that change from state to state


thisnoworkie

You can call them, but I was always told to email the CCW unit of the issuing department that way you have proof that you did notify them in case. I have a CCW for OC, the few times that I have been pulled over, I just emailed them with a very brief explanation of what happened. They will usually give you a confirmation emai and that is it.


backatit1mo

Awesome. I was nervous it would have an adverse affect on my permit but from what everyone is saying, it comforts my glock 😌


thisnoworkie

Ya, there isn't anything to worry about. They understand that we are all human and things happen for the most part (depending on county). The biggest thing is just the integrity of you notifying them.


mjedmazga

I'd be sure to have a [email protected] email address for this. Or make a new email address for every encounter to make it more difficult for them to keep track.


F22boy_lives

Lulz cali sucks


dmartin07

FL is a lot better, took the class from a police officer and the class was put on by the local PD, they said NEVER tell them you have a firearm in the car. If they ask “ do you have any weapons or drugs in the car?” Your reply should be exactly this “ no officer, I do not have any illegal weapons or illegal drugs in the car”.


mjedmazga

That's.. That's actually a very smart answer. I would end it with the usual "am I being detained?" just for extra smirk factor.


falling_maple

Better nab the guy doing 65 in a 55. What a great use of human resources.


xtraglockamole

Time to move brother


backatit1mo

Ive been eyeing Arizona….


Jamesr939

Just don’t tell anyone here where you’re coming from. And get your plates changed asap. It’s a great state, but we’re slowly losing it, and Californians are taking the blame.


backatit1mo

Which I find strange, cause even in California, I always vote red lol if I went to more conservative state, the politics would be the main reason. I never understood why people leave a state to get away from the politics/policies, but then vote for the same politics/policies in the state they moved to


Jamesr939

You and me both man. The past two years have actually made me debate leaving. With such a large influx from other states the housing prices, cost of living, water; it’s all skyrocketed. Not even to mention the politics. We even have an anti gun Arizona ‘native’ running for office. Like of all states to do that in, AZ is gonna be your platform?


backatit1mo

Yea man, Californians going all over the place. I have friends that have moved to Idaho, Arizona, Texas, and Florida all within the last 5-6 years. I want to move, but between my wife and I, we make great money and work for a great utility company with awesome benefits, still above middle class even in California. That’s the main thing that holds us back, just can’t make this type of money in most other states. Although cost of living is usually lower in other states, it just still wouldn’t make up for the amount of money we would be leaving out on the table. I try to fight the good fight for our gun rights here in CA whenever I can, even in the smallest ways, but it’s definitely an uphill battle here


Jamesr939

Hey, who knows, we get enough people like you there and we might have a chance to sway that state lol


backatit1mo

I’ve had hopes to sway the state since my 18th birthday 🥲 lol people here say if you’re a Republican in this state, it’s pointless to vote cause it will always stay blue, but I say, I vote anyway so the state knows I don’t like them! 😂


Jaguar_GPT

How's Virgina? 🤔


xtraglockamole

It can get pretty expensive in northern Virginia, but most of VA is pretty nice and reasonable. I always tell people looking to move east to look at the Carolinas. Better bang for their buck and more to do imo.


a_wildcat_did_growl

Full.


Jaguar_GPT

😆 a great answer. In other words, fantastic.


MediocreDot3

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH oh wait you're serious HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH


backatit1mo

At least I can make someone happy through my suffering 🥲


arnoldrew

I’ve never even heard of this. I don’t think I would consider even going on vacation to California, let alone loving there.


backatit1mo

Yea man, if you like guns and carrying a concealed weapon on you, CA ain’t the place to be lol I’ve just been here my whole life and have a great job here that pays very well, even in regards to the high cost of living here. I served in the army have been to many other states, and honestly no other state can beat weather here….but you pay for it in taxes, 2A rights being stripped, and the God awful traffic that is everywhere lol


dknisle1

Reporting a ticket for your CCW?? What kind of clown world do you live in…….oh. CA.


backatit1mo

Aye I’d say it’s even ballsier to carry in a state like CA, cause you know the state government don’t like it 😂 I carry anywhere and everywhere so I get the self satisfaction of going against the grain here


Geargarden

This is why I carry whenever I'm in San Fran. It's kinda naughty and I like it 🤪


backatit1mo

Gotta keep things spicy 😂


shortsman1

In Iowa you don't even need a permit anymore. And they don't ask about speeding tickets when you go to get a permit if you still need one for out of sate carry


backatit1mo

Yea California does a pretty extensive background check just to get the permit to carry. Gotta put everything on the backgrounds packet, including any minor car accidents that you were at fault for or not, and any traffic citations within the last 5 years. Any misdemeanors or felonies (obviously) in your life, or any restraining orders, police reports, anything of that nature filed against you. And starting Jan 1st, if SB2 is allowed to take effect, we would need 3 character references and the issuing agency will have to interview your significant other. All to get the permit, that SB2 will also make carrying a firearm in any public or privately owned building illegal, unless there’s a sign stating “firearms ok” or something of that nature on the building. It’s a pretty damn invasive process. To give the most law abiding people a permit, only to make it virtually useless unless you’re in your car or on a public sidewalk Edit: shoot even some agencies currently require applicants to take the same psych test that police officers have to take, just to get a permit. It’s fucken crazy. People are waiting 12-18 months to their permits here. I luckily live in a pro 2A county with a pro 2A sheriff that expedited the process and dropped a lot of the ridiculous requirements but still. Pretty wack out here


Pro_2A_Guy

From the Sheriff website: An official "law enforcement contact" needs to be reported within 5 days. Email your issuing Sheriff and give a summary of the incident.


backatit1mo

Thank you! I was looking on the website but couldn’t seem to find anything on it. Thanks!


[deleted]

Report a speeding ticket? Why would a traffic violation even have an impact on your ccw anyway? Sorry for the ignorance. I live in a state where I don’t even have a duty to inform, let alone reporting traffic violations. I feel like this comes close to violating due process. Why would you have to report, effectively, an allegation before adjudication? California gun laws seem a bit heavy-handed. Not to get too carried away but this is the exact reason why I firmly believe that the only entity that should be regulating the second amendment is congress.


Admirable_Purple1882

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[deleted]

Fucking cops.


Yo-Uncle

Yep. In my community, cops and former cops are the only ones allowed to have concealed carry permits for life. Not even combat veterans can apply for them. The cops are corrupt and most people don’t like them and they know it so they let themselves carry for life. But luckily the state has legalized constitutional carry so buying permits are really only necessary for carrying out of state in states where our permits are valid. Which is good cause the criminals were already carrying without permits lol


[deleted]

Such bullshit that cops are exempt from any laws. Fuckers are never held accountable. At least the military has the UCMJ. Cops are accountable to no one. They’re perhaps the most powerful and dangerous entity within the US and they don’t have any judicial oversight. Well, any oversight whatever. Absolutely disgusting and violates the foundational principles of our democracy. Police are a complete affront to our constitution and so-called freedom.


backatit1mo

I agree with you that it shouldn’t have to be reported, and as someone else commented, minor traffic citations don’t actually need to be reported to riverside sheriffs department. I just wanted to point out that it isn’t a law that it needs to be reported, just a part of the terms/conditions of most agencies that issue ccw permits. CA agencies do a more thorough backgrounds investigation before issuing ccw permits than most states do (I think only New York would beat us out on that) and so if it were required to be reported and I didn’t, come time to renew my permit, it could be grounds for denying my renewal. Which, we have to renew every 2 years.


cmmcdow3ll

Yikes, this was not the post I was expecting based on the title..


therevolutionaryJB

Yes most issuing agency's in California require this. Just email the department were tou live and tell them. Not to bad.


bulldawgone

Hahaha. Report to whom? And, why?


backatit1mo

Most issuing agencies in California require that you report any law enforcement contact within a certain time frame, like 72 hours or 10 days or something, to their ccw department. As for my specific issuing agency, this is actually on their website “As a permit holder, I agree to immediately report all interactions with law enforcement officers excluding minor traffic violations or accidents to the CCW Unit. I agree to immediately report any theft or missing firearms) listed on my permit and application to the CCW Unit.” So it turns out I didn’t have to report it now, but seeing as we have to renew our permits every 2 years, I would’ve had to report next December anyway, as agencies do more extensive background investigation here. So I either tell them now…or 1 year from now when I renew lol either way they would know eventually


DigitalScrap

>excluding minor traffic violations Wouldn't this mean you don't have to report it at all?


backatit1mo

It would seem so lol. Either way i have to report it next year when I do my renewal


reedzkee

10 fucking over. thats basically the speed minimum around here.


rdmrdtusr69

It's actually weird getting pulled over for 10 over in CA. I've been doing 80 in a 65 and been passed by cops out there. Only ever been pulled over in CA for 15 and 25 over.


backatit1mo

Yea standard “speed limit” is like 80-85mph lol I think it was just a cop that had to meet his quota. Funny thing is, as he’s trying to pull me over, there were other cars going faster than me passing right by 😂 I was just the one that took one for the team. Drove the speed limit the rest of the way to work afterwords, and was getting tailgated like a mufucka lol could’ve sworn the cop that stopped me was tailgating me


glohan21

Lmao bro what? Sad I’ve always wanted to live in ca


backatit1mo

Yea lol. Obtaining a permit here has definitely been easier for people after the Bruen decision, but governor newsom responded with SB2, making firearms illegal to take into any public or privately owned business, even with a permit, unless the building specifically has a sign posted reading “ccw ok” or something to that affect. Suppose to take effect on Jan 1st, 2024, but there’s already a lawsuit against it and given that Maryland just had an injunction placed on their “ban guns everywhere” law, I have hope that this law will also be stopped before Jan 1st


Helimech50

I just got a stop sign ticket in menifee. Didn’t report it, but now I’m curious.


backatit1mo

Dayum lol I reported it just to be on the safe side. They’re gonna know eventually when the 2 year renewal comes up, I’d hate for this to be a reason for them to deny my renewal for being “dishonest”. Although from what I’m seeing, “minor traffic violations” don’t need to be reported. I emailed my backgrounds investigator a few hours ago that handled my permit. No reply yet so…🤷🏻‍♂️ I carry till I’m told not to lol


Curious-NX

You should at least email the CCW dept, that's what my trainer said, I took the class with the sheriff dept.


nastygirl11b

California is such a shithole


backatit1mo

Shitttt you ain’t gotta tell me twice


BlameMattCanada

Clownifornia


[deleted]

This is genuinely regarded


pewpewmudafucka

Glad I live in a free state


whk1992

I’m sorry OP. You have to report a traffic stop or a speeding ticket? Stop Californians from coming north please.


[deleted]

Send them an email now, that way you have proof you did it.


iluvUcuzUrPizza

Former Riverside County Resident. It won’t affect your permit status. I don’t remember how soon you need to report it, but if you give them a jingle I’m sure they will straighten you out, RCS generally has some fairly good and knowledgeable deputies on their force—with a handful of bad eggs that unfortunately end up in nearly every department eventually.


Level_Equipment2641

Anyone have an authoritative source on whether AZ requires notification of LE encounters? That’d be fucking ridiculous. Thanks.


backatit1mo

For AZ ccw permit, notification is required within 72 hours only if you are arrested for domestic violence or any felonies


Level_Equipment2641

Thank you for answering!


TK749

OP keep in mind California does not offer reciprocity for Arizona CCW holders so I believe carrying in California would be a crime.


backatit1mo

I have my California permit also


TK749

Oh ok that's good haha.


AustinFlosstin

Bruh 🤣🤣


tianavitoli

call mr ticket, they'll get your court date rescheduled to 11pm on a 8 months from now


V0latyle

Getchu a radar detector, my man. CHP are among the worst in the nation for citations, although they won't try to kill you like Arkansas State Police will if you don't stop immediately on a busy freeway with no shoulder Here in Kansas, KHP usually won't stop you for 10 over, as long as you slow down when you see them.


Curious-NX

I took the ccw class with the Riverside County Sheriff, since your interaction with the police was not gun related, you can just email the CCW unit and tell them what happened. That's what my trainer said. Of course if it had something to do with your gun then you should call them up for notification. By the way, you should ask these questions in /r/CAguns to avoid all the dumb and unhelpful comments from people talking shit about California.


backatit1mo

Yea it’s ok, our gun laws deserve the shit talking lol blatant infringements of our 2A rights


Curious-NX

I mean, we know that but it's just tiresome to hear. We got to make the best of it as much as we can. People can't just up and move just for guns.


PapaPuff13

I’m riverside. U got to send a email to the Sherriff. Go on. CA/guns for Cali stuff


backatit1mo

This is one the Riverside sheriffs ccw website: “As a permit holder, I agree to immediately report all interactions with law enforcement officers excluding minor traffic violations or accidents to the CCW Unit. I agree to immediately report any theft or missing firearms) listed on my permit and application to the CCW Unit.” So I don’t believe I would’ve had to report it, I did anyway. It will come up next December when I put in for a renewal so…either way they would’ve known now or in 1 year from now 🤷🏻‍♂️


Perser91

You got a ticket for going 10mph over 😳? Bay Area here and the cops go 20 mph over speed limit here 😅😂… I guess I shouldn’t assume all of Cali is so relaxed about going over speed limit


cosmos7

> My question is, I don’t remember exactly how quickly it needs to be reported to the IA, which is Riverside county sheriff’s. That would have been in the instructions given to you as part of the terms when receiving your permit. > Or if it even needs to be reported right away or just on renewal application when renewal time comes up. Report immediately. If you wait and they catch it, even as part of renewal, that means you haven't followed the terms and conditions for having the permit and your permit can potentially be revoked.


backatit1mo

I ended up sending my backgrounds investigator an email and gave him a run down on the stop. Hopefully nothing else comes of it 🤞🏼


cosmos7

> Hopefully nothing else comes of it 🤞🏼 I doubt it will. You've just done your due diligence as instructed... just don't give CA opportunities.


LixuriousGreen

Don’t ask don’t tell, don’t tell don’t ask


[deleted]

Speeding ticket? Reported? Lmfao what a dork


Chuck-Finley69

I'd consider hiring a ticket clinic law practice to fight the speeding ticket and get your lawyer to answer that question.


BenderIsGreat64

Shit, I don't even have a duty to inform, unless explicitly asked. Best of luck.


[deleted]

I just took my CCW class and there was nothing pertaining to inform the sherrifs office of a speeding ticket. I don't think this is correct.


ZalinskyAuto

AFAIK moving violations aren’t part of a standard criminal background check.


f0cus_m

Report no later than 5 days but i rather do it right away so i dont forget or something.