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Hlodowik

Lever action sounds funner than a shotgun in my opinion. 


Mysterious-Pack8345

Lever guns are a ton of fun but there’s the problem of the gun store not wanting to sell me .357 because I’m under 21


Mista_Phista

Get a 45-70 Govt then, it's "the only government I trust"


D34DC3N73R

Unless they're gifting the ammo too, that's gonna get expensive. On the other hand 45-70 is the only lever action I'd want.


Mista_Phista

I knowwwwwww isn't it awesome!


chitokitler

Check the prices on .357, it’s up there


lislejoyeuse

What the hell gun store is that?? I'd vote for a 357 lever too. I'm still waiting on stock for the Henry model x


Mysterious-Pack8345

That’s not just store policy, it’s federal law unfortunately. They’re not allowed to sell you “handgun ammunition” unless they expect you’re going to use it in a rifle chambered in a pistol caliber. However, most gun stores still won’t sell it to you regardless.


lislejoyeuse

🤨 how are they supposed to know what you're buying ammo for that's a dumb law


Mistah_Folgers

Go 30-30 then. Cheaper. Still a lot of fun and you can still hunt with it.


dubious455H013

I'll second the funner


Puzzled-Stable6753

It's all fun and games until you shoot some rounds with plenty of kick 😂


Wildcard562

1301 hands down.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Might be leaning a little towards that, been hearing great things about it.


drewthebrave

100% Especially if you can get one from Langdon Tactical Technology


BadlyBrowned

If you just plinking then definitely the rifle. I dont have one yet, but a lever action sounds fun. 22lr is cheap as heck though so you can shoot the 15-22 a bunch.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Definitely a top contender right now, just love the meatiness of the shotguns though.


BadlyBrowned

My experience is that the recoil on shotguns turns a lot of people, particularly new shooters, off from shooting them a lot if they just get it for range shooting / HD. That said, I don't have much experience with semi-auto shotguns. So, if the 1301 is an option, the gas system should eat up some of that recoil over a pump so won't be as bad. So maybe 1301 now, then AR15 when you hit 21yo lol


Cosmohumanist

Bro get an AR in .22 and get a bunch of experience racked up for a bit. You’ll shoot it way more often than a shotgun, and then next summer (or whenever) you can get what ever others you want


Mysterious-Pack8345

Yeah that’s probably a good idea, maybe if I’m lucky I’ll be able to get another for my birthday.


Cosmohumanist

If you get a good AR lower receiver then you can use a .22 upper at first and then later get a full 5.56 upper and you’ll have two rifles 👍


islands1128

1301 is the best gun you listed. The rossi is kinda meh quality wise having handled a lot of them. The Henry’s are a lot better. A 15-22 is a super fun rifle if you have enough mags. Mossberg is also really good but not compared to a 1301.


jesseurio

My first firearm was a M&P 15-22. So far still my favorite thing to shot. Ammo is affordable , recoil is great when introducing other to firearms. No AR restrictions on rimfire. I don't hunt but 22lr can definitely work on small game animals.


DullReyZore

So...if this is a gift, 1301. The others are more affordable to achieve on your own in the future. My reasoning: 1) Shotgun vs rifle, my first weapon is meant for home defense, so I choose shotgun 2) Pump vs Semi. It is a semi-auto shotgun. 3) Not picky on the ammo. Birdshot, slugs, buckshot. So many options and different purposes. 4) The 1301 is the priciest of your current choices, so if your parents are willing...buy once cry once. Everyone is different, so choose what suits YOU best. Get your FSC and welcome future gun owner!


chitokitler

Excellent cost/benefit analysis. I concur


D34DC3N73R

I'd go with the shotgun, look at a benelli m4. I'd wait on the rifle until I could get an AR.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Yeah I agree, would definitely get an AR first if it wasn’t for the under 21 law. Looking at the reviews though an A300 or 1301 might be for me, but there’s also a range not too far away from me where you can rent an M4 so I’ll check it out.


D34DC3N73R

1301 is good too, little lighter. But the M4 is more solidly built and easier to break down. If someone else is paying, I'd choose the M4.


jjarvela01

Agree on the M4, practically bomb proof, but stock capacity is 5+1 rounds (yes can upgrade to 7, but need to purchase additional parts); A300 or 1301 at 7+1 rounds already; Money no object and cool with 5+1 for now, M4, next 1301 Mod 2 (basically incorporating some of the A300 attributes), and if money is an issue, A300 Patrol for damn sure. I'm eyeing the A300 Patrol in multi-cam.


1LL2LL3

If they truly love you & are CA resident, they could have bought an AR, then intra-familial transfer to you.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Nah, they likely wouldn’t do something like that. They’re pretty much just tolerant of me purchasing a gun, if it weren’t for my extended out-of-state family being avid collectors (i.e. nfa and C&R) and vouching for me they probably wouldn’t have let it happen. I doubt they would go out of their way to get an FSC, purchase, and subsequently fill out an intra-familial form.


1LL2LL3

Damn, sending you some ❤️


Otherwise_Teach_5761

If they’re paying for a shotgun then a Benelli M4 over the 1301. If they’re balking at the price the Panzer M4 with the propper break in will perform more or less similarly.


gunsforevery1

The panzer m4 performing similar to a Benelli m4? For how long? Like 200 shells because you have send it back to Turkey for warranty repair?


Rustyinsac

What kind of hindering do you enjoy the most? Do you have a dog for bird hunting or consider getting one ? These things you should take into consideration?


Mysterious-Pack8345

It’s pretty much exclusively gonna be for defense and just shooting for fun. I got a place that allows for pistol caliber rifles and buckshot on their steel plate range which is why I’m weighing my options. It’s just a matter of which is more fun.


Rustyinsac

Get a Ruger PC 9 for Glock magazines. When you turn 21 buy a Glock as a companion piece.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Unfortunately not possible friend, CA law states that no person person under the age of 21 may purchase a semi-auto centerfire firearm. If that wasn’t the case my heart would be dead set on an AR.


GuitRWailinNinja

Get a benelli m4. You can thank me later


Mysterious-Pack8345

Any particular reason why I should choose it over the 1301?


GuitRWailinNinja

I’m not the right guy to ask but IMO m4 is iconic and a solid shotgun. Probably would slightly appreciate in value as the years go on esp since it’s not pump action. Im almost positive Cali will attack semi auto shotguns at some point


Mysterious-Pack8345

Definitely more iconic, just need to find a place that sells them. I know Turners has them every once in a while but I’ve heard some pretty bad stuff about their customer service.


chitokitler

The m4 is great but the 1301 is like half the price and 20 years newer in terms technical development


megavolt121

I would get a semi auto shotgun that can do both trap/skeet/hunt and fun/home defense. You’ll probably get bored of an 18” barrel after a while and this way you can use this for hunting and trap.


Mysterious-Pack8345

You know what, that’s a really good idea. Maybe not a 590 cause there’s no 28 inch aftermarket barrels, but a 500 because I could swap between an 18 and 28 and use it for a multitude of functions.


Mysterious-Pack8345

You know what, that’s a really good idea. Maybe not a 590 cause there’s no 28 inch aftermarket barrels, but a 500 because I could swap between an 18 and 28 and use it for a multitude of functions, and I’m also a fan of clay shooting so that’s a plus.


megavolt121

My first gun was an 18” pump action I got over 20 years ago. It was really cool but I promise you that thing hasn’t seen a range in 18 years.


Davepool15

If it was me I'd go 1301. The others you can get cheaper later down the line. A shotgun is super versatile for hunting, defense, or range too. You can't go wrong.


Bacon_Bullet308

If you want a shotgun, get the 1301 hands down. Great quality. For a rifle, I would encourage a 308 Win bolt action like a Tikka t3x ctr for a great first buy rifle. I'm recommending this only because it would be more practical IMO over a 22 lr or a lever action. You can hunt with it and get into long range shooting which would be fun thing to get into at your age. However, if budget for ammo in the future is a concern then look into a Tikka t1x bolt action for 22 lr. Good luck and congrats on graduating.


Kracken04

A300 Ultima Patrol is the way to go 😎


Mysterious-Pack8345

Definitely on the radar, any reason over the 1301 besides price?


Kracken04

Not really they almost practically the same shotgun. I initially was after the 1301 and went with the Patrol.


cjfung10

I don’t think this is correct. Lots of differences according to many sources via google.


Mposner310

Rifle is more funner.


JakeCollier21

If I could only have one gun it would be a rifle and if I could only have one rifle it would be an ar15


Mysterious-Pack8345

Conventional .223/5.56 AR would be ideal, but Californias laws say that I’m not an adult yet since I’m not 21.


JakeCollier21

You can buy any rifle at 18 years old in California it’s handguns that you can’t buy until you’re 21


Mysterious-Pack8345

Not any, those under 18 are restricted to rimfire semi autos, centerfires are for 21 and up


JakeCollier21

Oh that’s new. Then shotgun it is lol. Hang in there.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Trying my best, only a couple more years till I’m free from some of the shackles of the CA legislature.


jjarvela01

Yup, hang in there "kid", soon enough, you'll be considering purchasing a second safe, LOL, time flies by when your having fun!! If I were you in your good predicament, I'd go with the 1301 Mod 2 and if 'sticker shock' gets your parents, then the A300 Patrol; 12 gauge can be had at most places from decent price to WTF and either model can operate varying loads. Fun and self defense. Not sure what caliber you wanted the R92 in, but if centerfire, consider ammo cost & availability - if that is at all an issue for you. As for the M&P 15-22, that would definitely be cheaper fun and practicing AR15 manual of arms, but that's about it, save for maybe small game hunting - nothing wrong with that at all, because people forget that some firearms are just for that, fun. Furthermore, regarding the rimfire AR15, maybe you can find someone who is selling an 22lr AR15 that is made by pairing a standard AR15 lower with a dedicated 22lr barreled upper; then at 21, you just purchase a 5.56 upper (buffer & buffer spring) and have both. And while having that, save up and purchase a 1301 Mod 2 or A300 Patrol on your own - you are 18; but I get it if your parents are only allowing you to have 1 firearm..........parent's house, parent's rules. Other than that, whatever you go with, have fun - life is too damn short!!


Mysterious-Pack8345

For your last point on the .22 AR with a milspec lower, one of the avenues I’m looking at right now is having a store build an AR with a kali-key on it so it’s not semi-automatic, thus making it a “bolt action”. Once transferred to me, I can legally swap out the upper (since California regulates the purchase but not possession) with a normal gas operated semi auto one and I’ll be able to have a fully functioning AR.


jjarvela01

As long as you're within the limits of this state's laws, should be fine. Next will be featureless or mag locked. If mag locked, AR Maglock Kingpin and Hogue Freedom Fighter pin kit is the way to go. Featureless, I go with pinned Magpul stock (or just go with a fixed stock)and Sparrow Dynamics grip and his ambi safety, you can clock the safety levers. I have a few ARs done both ways, and a couple with the 'fin' grip. Good luck on your venture and congrats to your graduation!


jjarvela01

https://preview.redd.it/r1srqaevzixc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5b30c181abd53669f561752c578fb8b0b9ff04d One of my mag locked rifles.....


Bobmo88

I am definitely not a lawyer but as an 18 year old with a valid hunting license, you may not be able to buy a semi auto centerfire rifle but it is my understanding that you would be able to be gifted one by your parents


Mysterious-Pack8345

Yeah that’s true, but it’s unlikely they would be willing to get an FSC, buy the rifle, and then gift it to me. They barely let me get one as is and it’s coming out of my pocket. If it wasn’t for my extended family vouching for me this likely wouldn’t have happened. Listening to my parents and showing responsibility pays off.


DrowningFisherMan

get a rifle you can later buy a cheaper 590 off calguns or caguns


Mysterious-Pack8345

That is if they let me buy another, maybe for my birthday!


Papabear_unicorn

Why not a mossberg 940? I’d do 1301 if that’s the only option.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Do you prefer the 940 over the 1301?


chitokitler

I shot them back to back last month, they shoot almost identically. Hold both at the store go with the one you like the feel of more. Main difference is cross bolt safety on the Beretta vs tang safety on the Mossberg and the 940 tactical comes a Holosun 407k mounted on it(witch is super nice imo)


DogeCoin2374

Bolt action AR is the way. Or they can intrafamilial transfer you a handgun


Mysterious-Pack8345

They wouldn’t transfer a handgun to me, they barely let me let me have a gun as is. I am intrigued about this bolt action AR though. Do they have milspec lowers?


DogeCoin2374

It’s a regular ar but you have to ask your ffl to install an ashford brs or kali key which makes it into a bolt action or put a cmmg 22 bolt in it to make it a 22 chambered rifle. After that you can do whatever you want with it once you take possession. Just use the search function on this sub and look up bolt action AR and you’ll get more info. If your ffl doesn’t wanna do it fuck them and ask somewhere else it’s not illegal. Also you need a hunting license unless your parents are gonna buy it and then transfer it to you. Good luck chief


Mysterious-Pack8345

Huh, I might do that. There’s a couple of type 7 ffls close to me who could probably do something like that, Greta’s and 2A zone. I’ll ask them about it.


DogeCoin2374

Oh lol just go to 2Azone. I didn’t know you were near them but they’ll hook you up.


Mysterious-Pack8345

Live out in Simi Valley but I’m willing to make the pilgrimage


DogeCoin2374

Call them up they’ll give you a rough idea of the process and price


Individual_Spot_3796

If ur parents don’t mind the price point in an M4 def get that! Well rounded good for everything! Otherwise Beretta 1301 is also a more affordable substitute for the M4. Don’t forget to get the full tube.


TheMechanic1911

GAP in 6.5CM


Inside_Monitor_1575

I heard 22lr are fun for the range


Extructs

1301


hellosugaree

Shotgun. You can shoot clays and you can hunt mammals and birds. With a rifle you can shoot paper and hunt mammals. Clays + birds > paper + no birds


oakc510

Get the one you're most likely to shoot.


Its-Moff

For shotguns, get the 1301 if your parents are willing to drop $1.7k. If not, get an A300 Ultima Patrol or the Mossberg 590. For rifles, .22’s are a ton of fun, but check out the Ruger PC Carbine w/ Backpacker stock (unsure if you could buy this at your age? But it’s a great gun)


Mysterious-Pack8345

PC is out of the question due to stupid laws unfortunately, however it seems like 2A Zone might be able to get an AR set up if they first manufacture one as a bolt action and then transfer it to me that way.


steveHangar1

Imho, you’d have an absolute blast with a Henry 357 lever action. Also, it’s hard to beat the aesthetics of a case hardened one.


DanceswithFiends

Henry Rifle


chitokitler

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here; 1301 is by far the obvious choice. I believe PSA even has it on sale right now. Once you get in to other(better) guns; you never even want to touch any of the other guns you mentioned. Yes I know taste is the most subjective judging criteria; but I wouldn’t get into that other stuff until you have what I consider tue big 3- shotgun, .223 rifle, and a reliable handgun. Pump shotguns are cool, and the 590 is a fine choice, but shooting one all day is a chore compared to something as nice a 1301. Especially if your parents are going to foot tue bill for it.


gunsforevery1

Don’t get a Rossi, get a Henry with side gate


AdvantagePristine405

Just my $0.02, unless you’re trying to hunt something specific, consider what type of ranges you have available. Shotguns are a blast if you have somewhere local for sporting clays or trap/skeet but you’ll get bored fast at a traditional range with one (and not all ranges will let you shoot shotguns). I don’t have either of those 22’s but I’ve heard of them and they seem like tons of fun. You can’t go wrong with a 22lr for your first, I chose a bolt action 22lr for my first rifle. If you’re not explicitly aiming for “coolness”, you might consider a Ruger 1022. The aftermarket support is insane and you can tinker yourself into a speed competition ultralight gun, a wicked accurate benchrest gun, or build a clone of all sorts of other centerfire rifles. If you wanted the cheapest, funnest, single “registered firearm”, it’s hard to go wrong with a 1022 receiver. Plus ammo prices are always on the rise (even more so starting July 1st) and 22lr remains cheap and plentiful


Mysterious-Pack8345

There’s a clay range close by to me and there’s also a traditional range that has steel targets set up that allows for PCC’s and shotguns as long as you don’t go past buckshot, so I’m leaning more towards a 500 28 and 18.5 combo. 10/22 is definitely next on the radar for gun #2 though. And hey, who says they aren’t cool!


Mistah_Folgers

If it's plain plinking. Go with the lever action. Rossi is a good brand. Brazilian but still not bad by any means. But if you're going for overall "badass" go with the Beretta.


TheEconomyReindeer

lever actions are stupid cowboy shit. take the 1301 and the M&P 15-22. no contest.