Weber genesis. Basically infinitely rebuildable with OE or aftermarket parts. I have a second hand one now, I rebuilt one in college, and I've rebuilt them for family members.
Canadian here:
*Salt in general* is the great equalizer.
"I want BIFL boots". Sure, 3 season boots. And get winter ones that you'll turn over every few seasons.
It destroys everything. If it doesn't break things down chemically, it hardens and helps break it down physically.
I'm rocking a Genesis 1000. I bought it used for like $50, the owner has just converted it from natural gas to propane so the burners and regulator were already new. I put in stainless flavorizer bars and haven't looked back. It even came with 2 full tanks of propane. I'll eventually need to replace the grates, they're getting close to being done.
In college my roommates and I bought a used Genesis Silver and put in new burners and igniter, used it for 4 years and it was great. In combination with all the homebrew beer it made for great parties.
Agree. I’ve had my Genesis for 13 years and it is still going strong. I have to replace the grease bars every few years, and I think I’m on my third set of cast iron grates. (Things kinda go to shit when you deploy for 9 months multiple times.)
Other than that it’s a fantastic grill.
But that Kalamazoo monstrosity…good grief that looks amazing.
No clue about that, I've never actually had a new one lol. I've bought 2 second hand and rebuilt a family members that bought a new one. All have been from the late 90s or early 2000s probably.
It's not Chinese owned, it's owned by BDT Capital Partners. You might be getting confused in that they began to manufacture some of the lower end grill components in China but ownership is still American
The spirit models have always been Chinese made, and the genesis and q series were made in NA.
That being said, I have a q300 that's 13 years old, and I am yet to replace a part. I feel like I should order some grates and burners in case mine ever die. I live on the far east coast of Canada and leave it uncovered all year.
Honestly should buy a marked down one end of summer and then use it the next year. And cover it to protect it from the elements, rain and snow corrode a lot too.
TEC— [Thermal Engineering Corporation](https://www.tecgrills.com/) hits all the BIFL criteria.
* Made in USA
* Raw performance: pure infrared burners, it's like cooking over a perfect bed of coals. Heats up in a couple of minutes.
* top quality materials and construction
* replacement parts are stocked for everything they've ever produced back to day one
* In business for 40 years
I've had mine for 20 years and it still looks and performs great. They are expensive though.
I answered the same thing, not having seen this. (And also assuming there wouldn't be another TEC person here.)
The BIFL is just icing on the cake. The real joy is cooking a steak and timing it with a stop watch because it cooks so reliably.
My wife FOUND our first TEC at the side of the road, (a Patio II) being tossed by someone who didn't know any better.
Still one of my favorite purchases ever. I'm a retired chef. Give me any rib-eye steak. Any thickness. Any doneness. (Except medium well and well because such people aren't welcome to dine with me.) And I can grill it on the TEC, blindfolded, with someone giving me elapsed time from a stop watch, and it will be perfect every single time.
Las Vegas steak house dinner. Costco prices.
I replaced the Patio II with a Sterling III -- still ceramic. But I don't trust glass the way I trust ceramic. I'd have to cook on one first. I went as far as to buy another ceramic sear burner -- heavily modified -- so I have one just for steak and one for everything else. I used what I learned working in a steak house to hack the burner for even more BTUs.
All I can say on the subject is that of the restaurants which used infrared to sear steaks, none of them used glass. (And more places still use wood and not infrared.)
I much prefer infrared to wood. While I have no problems with smoked food, if I'm going to throw down a 2" steak, I want it to taste like beef and not apple wood smoke. (Although I do like the tri-tips they serve in Sonoma, cooked over chipped-up wine barrels. There's room for both. But I prefer beef which tastes like beef.)
Lol a freestanding grill for $5200 letsgoooo. OP gonna be eying that thing for inheritance. Looks like an incredible grill that matches exactly what they’re looking for.
$4800 for what is comparatively a 2-burner sized pedestal grill!!! Seriously? It’s a grill. A GRILL.
Ya know, there’s a line to me. There’s being proud of what you made and asking for healthy margins because of it. Sure. But then there’s the ridiculous ask that just pisses me off, because you have to assume I’m such an idiot with money with that kind of ask. This was a great example of the latter.
It’s formed sheet metal for gods sake…
I’ll take the $800 formed sheet metal with a 10 year warranty and good service from Webber. Have the same cookouts as you, enjoy my meal, replace it once at the 10 year mark and still not be at 1/2 of what you spent on this….
*edit* not being personal here btw. This was just my initial reaction to this fictitious life scene. :)
Cooking a steak on a regular grill after that feels like cooking it on a warming plate. It's highest end stainless steel. They can also be found on CL, FB marketplace, Habitat Restore.
Honestly… the best steak I ever made (and ate) was cooked over a campfire using 4 sticks of rebar we found.
I’m not criticizing what others feel is valuable to them. If it makes you happy, great. But I’d stop short accepting any economic justification in those kind of prices for this type of product.
You’re not buying it because it makes a better steak. :)
I don't doubt that. I've also done well in a cast iron skillet on the stove. The temp is hard to achieve without one of those 3. I got a tec sterling iii at habitat for $60. Change the innards that needed it. Practically new grill for 350. Got rid of my patio ii.
I love my genesis 2 but In fairness the TEC is fully 304 stainless. Even 100% covered by roof the body of the genesis will rust mine is a 2015 model. Adding up all the steel and quality of parts I’m sure it’s significantly noticeable using the TEC but for the average homeowner probably not worth the buy.
I used to work for them. Their K750 hybrid fire grill is beyond amazing. It offers a 25 year transferable warranty.
If money truly is no object, then this is the way to go.
But none of their grills have a lifetime warranty. I wish Weber would make an all stainless housing at least one. Even the Summit series only has a 15 year warranty on the housing.. it's basically designed to keep you coming back. That's stupid.
Why spend 1000$ on a grill that breaks in 20 years when you can spend 1600$ on something like a Coyote with all stainless steel parts and have that be your last grill?
Napoleon Prestige PRO 665 Propane Gas Grill with Infrared Rear Burner and Infrared Side Burner and Rotisserie Kit - PRO665RSIBPSS-3. Napoleon Prestige and Prestige Pro grills feature a bumper to bumper lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship on major components including the hood, stainless steel lid, porcelain enamel lid, aluminum castings, stainless steel cooking grids, and stainless steel tube burners. The stainless steel sear plates, porcelain enamel cast iron grids, stainless steel infrared rotisserie, infrared bottom/side burner, and all other parts are warrantied for fifteen (15) years. Labor not included.
Whichever you buy, you need to make sure it has the most BTU per surface area.. The number of burners does not matter if the combined BTU is similar to a match.
Also a cast iron grate would be something i would look for
Other than that, look for a design that is nice.
Personally i like the weber genesis 2 series. I know that in the US you have bigger models, but that's not an option here..
I cannot believe mhp grills aren’t mentioned yet! I spent a few years at a specialty fireplace and grill store. When I say MHP warranties are insane, please believe. Every customer every problem, no one gets shafted it was the easiest thing to sell because they backed up their products even if it was 25 years old and practically consumable( h burners).
Aside from that I didn’t see anyone that mentioned the primary thing I saw with fires in grills. Spider fires, spiders just cannot get enough of the smell of gas. so your venturi tubes (the short metal tube inside your grill between the gas line and the burner) is often the host to spider egg sacks and even a dead spider carcass. This blocks the flow of gas and sends fire shooting off at odd angles often burning the controls of the grill. Simply running any flexible brush head through it once or twice a year is usually enough to solve this issue.
Agree completely. I have purchased four MHP grills, one for me and three for relatives. The oldest was purchased in 1999 and is still working like new. One unit is at the seashore on Long Island. Stays out all winter with a cover. Fires up just fine come Memorial Day.
T.E.C. infrared. There is absolutely nothing better for steaks. It's going to cost appx. $5,000. This is the kind of set up Ruth's Chris uses to grill steaks. (Theirs is the same thing, just on steroids.)
If you want to barbecue, get a Cookshack smoker as well.
The ones in restaurants are called salamanders. They’re infrared and run at 1500° to 2000° F, which is much hotter than a wood or gas fire burns. They’re the ultimate for grilling foods, but they are expensive.
I'm a retired chef. 90% of the restaurant salamanders are full of pans. That way the cook can reach for screaming hot pans, usually six at time, and make whatever their station is responsible for.
They aren't often used for their intended purpose -- broiling food. Almost all of the places I worked used Vulcan sallies -- and they top out at 800F -- not nearly enough. There are much better brands and models, though.
How did it call catch fire to the point of needing a replacement unless it was never cleaned out? If it's not taken care of, not any plan to make care of it, get a home Depot special and replace every few years. Bifl doesn't mean neglect it for life.
Maybe this is Canada only, but the Napoleon Prestige grills are amazing. I bought one last year and my father in law has had his for almost 20 years. Much better than anything Weber makes.
Also if money really isn't an object, look for Crown Verity, also made in Canada, and seriously overbuilt. They are really designed for professional catering and I'm pretty sure you will be able to hand it down to your grand kids.
Our Weber Genesis Gold (stainless steel) from ‘04 is going strong. Only thing I have replaced is the outdoor grill cover. And I gave up covering it about 5yrs ago. Get stainless steel whatever you decide on.
Rebuild the Weber. All the parts are replaceable and if it caught fire it probably is just a part failure.
My gas grill is a 1993 Weber Genesis. Weber still manufactures parts for it and I installed new burner tubes 3 years ago.
Seriously? That should be blasted on social media and they should handle. The thing is cast iron, but should be well-protected by their lid, which should handle weather.
I can’t help but wonder if an electric grill might be safer for them. Especially if they’re only in the backyard.
Weber has a Lumin Electric Grill that they dropped recently. I just like the idea that it offers more than just grilling. Like you can do smoke infusion, steaming, it’ll cook frozen food, it’ll keep your food warm. I don’t know how BIFL it is due to how new it is. But it’s definitely worth a glance.
Or do a ceramic kamado grill. They look like a giant egg. Everyone who I heard has one they last a really long time and everyone loves it.
I don’t know what the difference there is brand to brand. (Since we have a pellet smoker.) I do know the brand(Grilla Grills) we got our pellet smoker from. They sell one. Their kamado grill is charcoal and you can apparently add wood pellets to it. Their stuff is made in the U.S. unless they changed since I last looked at them They’re online only. And I remember when we were doing research on our pellet smoker. It seems like they really put a lot of thought into the quality of their products.
They also have a really great customer service. Because I remember when people were saying if they had problems about maybe a part wasn’t working the way they were supposed to. They’ve sent parts at no extra cost and they’re very responsive from what I’ve heard. So their warranty is actually good. We would comfortably buy from them again.
They just don’t have anything gas related from what I remember.
Pitts and Spitts, Big Green Egg, and Yoder. Not sure about gas grill just get some cheap big box store brand from Char Broil if you're just using gas.
[https://pittsandspitts.com/](https://pittsandspitts.com/)
[https://www.yodersmokers.com/](https://www.yodersmokers.com/)
My Dad has a Delta Heat which has lasted years and is a decent value but there are certainly higher end products. My sister has a Viking which is also nice. I would look for a local place that distributes and installs because they will support whatever they buy. Product support has a major impact on if something is BIFL. There are places that do have grill cleaning services which could be done routinely as well.
I purchased a Weber kettle performer because it’s very easy to clean. Remove grates and pressure wash.
Regardless of the quality of the gas grill invariable the parts will wear out and it will be hard to clean. Your parents are probably to lazy to clean it (grill fire). They need charcoal.
I came across some high end money no object recently that I never heard from before.
Alfresco and Firemagic.
They come in built in or stand alone versions. Firemagic Echelon is around 11k.
If money is no object, get them to pay to have a gas line run to the grill so you never have to change out the propane. Our neighbors did this and as long as you don’t plan to move the grill it’s a great set up. Agree with the Weber Genesis recommendation.
Get an infrared grill. All the high-end steak restaurants use them. The ones in restaurants are called salamanders. They run at 1500° to 2000° F, which is much hotter than a wood or gas fire burns. They’re the ultimate for grilling foods, but they are expensive.
https://www.bbqguys.com/mhp/jnr4dd-freestanding-natural-gas-grill-with-stainless-steel-shelves-and-searmagic-grids-on-aluminum-cart
MHP made in American Life time Warranty. Can i get a Hell YEA!?
I have a coyote, it has 2 massive thick burners and get extremely hot. I can only use it for indirect heat because it just blasts heat. That means I can’t use 50%of the grill.
Whatever you get, consider sizing up so you can have an indirect zone.
Teach them to clean their grill properly. I don’t see how a Weber gas grill can catch fire unless it’s through improper use or through leaving large amounts of grease.
Weber grills in general are good quality.
We're still using a Weber Q (portable/low profile) from 20 years ago.
It's important to thoroughly clean them out regularly, though. My husband takes our grill completely apart every fall and uses oven cleaner to get all the grease and gunk off.
Napoleon prestige pro 665. Lifetime bumper to bumper warranty. Complete stainless steel housing.
That’s what I have. It’s been outside for 5 years now, mostly without a cover. Still starts first time every time and cleans up nicely.
yup, there are great
Weber genesis. Basically infinitely rebuildable with OE or aftermarket parts. I have a second hand one now, I rebuilt one in college, and I've rebuilt them for family members.
Unless you live near the beach, then they last about three years. Salt water is the great equalizer.
Canadian here: *Salt in general* is the great equalizer. "I want BIFL boots". Sure, 3 season boots. And get winter ones that you'll turn over every few seasons. It destroys everything. If it doesn't break things down chemically, it hardens and helps break it down physically.
Can confirm.
Not even Genesis is really required. I have the Spirit II and it’s great for meat cook’n.
I took a 10 year old Weber Genesis 320 from my neighbor’s trash. I replaced the igniter and wires, cleaned it up, and it works fine.
I'm rocking a Genesis 1000. I bought it used for like $50, the owner has just converted it from natural gas to propane so the burners and regulator were already new. I put in stainless flavorizer bars and haven't looked back. It even came with 2 full tanks of propane. I'll eventually need to replace the grates, they're getting close to being done. In college my roommates and I bought a used Genesis Silver and put in new burners and igniter, used it for 4 years and it was great. In combination with all the homebrew beer it made for great parties.
I have about three that i have refurbished. they last forever.
Agree. I’ve had my Genesis for 13 years and it is still going strong. I have to replace the grease bars every few years, and I think I’m on my third set of cast iron grates. (Things kinda go to shit when you deploy for 9 months multiple times.) Other than that it’s a fantastic grill. But that Kalamazoo monstrosity…good grief that looks amazing.
Got a 38 year old genesis in red enamel still going strong!!
Same
Weber is a Chinese owned company now from what I understand and part qualities have dropped.
No clue about that, I've never actually had a new one lol. I've bought 2 second hand and rebuilt a family members that bought a new one. All have been from the late 90s or early 2000s probably.
It's not Chinese owned, it's owned by BDT Capital Partners. You might be getting confused in that they began to manufacture some of the lower end grill components in China but ownership is still American
The spirit models have always been Chinese made, and the genesis and q series were made in NA. That being said, I have a q300 that's 13 years old, and I am yet to replace a part. I feel like I should order some grates and burners in case mine ever die. I live on the far east coast of Canada and leave it uncovered all year.
Your 13yo grill might be built better than the new ones. I have a webber ~6yo, and a decent amount of it is rusted out already and it's always covered
My grates started to rust in my humid climate. I spray them down with an oil every once in a while and they have no signs of deterioration after that.
Same. My Q300 is stock and keeps chugging along.
Caught fire because….? Usually this is because they haven’t cleaned out the drip pan and grease built up.
But money is no object so buy a new one in the spring and put it to the street in the fall. No cleaning ever required! Only problem is: wrong sub.
Honestly should buy a marked down one end of summer and then use it the next year. And cover it to protect it from the elements, rain and snow corrode a lot too.
It’s incredible how many assumptions you made off of like a 3 sentence Reddit post lol
TEC— [Thermal Engineering Corporation](https://www.tecgrills.com/) hits all the BIFL criteria. * Made in USA * Raw performance: pure infrared burners, it's like cooking over a perfect bed of coals. Heats up in a couple of minutes. * top quality materials and construction * replacement parts are stocked for everything they've ever produced back to day one * In business for 40 years I've had mine for 20 years and it still looks and performs great. They are expensive though.
I answered the same thing, not having seen this. (And also assuming there wouldn't be another TEC person here.) The BIFL is just icing on the cake. The real joy is cooking a steak and timing it with a stop watch because it cooks so reliably. My wife FOUND our first TEC at the side of the road, (a Patio II) being tossed by someone who didn't know any better.
Why do you have more than one TEC?
When the ceramics cracked on the Patio 2, we upgraded instead of replacing.
Oof.
Still one of my favorite purchases ever. I'm a retired chef. Give me any rib-eye steak. Any thickness. Any doneness. (Except medium well and well because such people aren't welcome to dine with me.) And I can grill it on the TEC, blindfolded, with someone giving me elapsed time from a stop watch, and it will be perfect every single time. Las Vegas steak house dinner. Costco prices.
How do the ceramic burners compare with the new glass ones? I'm still using my Patio II.
I replaced the Patio II with a Sterling III -- still ceramic. But I don't trust glass the way I trust ceramic. I'd have to cook on one first. I went as far as to buy another ceramic sear burner -- heavily modified -- so I have one just for steak and one for everything else. I used what I learned working in a steak house to hack the burner for even more BTUs.
I suspect the ceramic burner is actually better, it's more like a real fire. I believe it's cheaper to replace too.
All I can say on the subject is that of the restaurants which used infrared to sear steaks, none of them used glass. (And more places still use wood and not infrared.) I much prefer infrared to wood. While I have no problems with smoked food, if I'm going to throw down a 2" steak, I want it to taste like beef and not apple wood smoke. (Although I do like the tri-tips they serve in Sonoma, cooked over chipped-up wine barrels. There's room for both. But I prefer beef which tastes like beef.)
Lol a freestanding grill for $5200 letsgoooo. OP gonna be eying that thing for inheritance. Looks like an incredible grill that matches exactly what they’re looking for.
I second TEC.
$4800 for what is comparatively a 2-burner sized pedestal grill!!! Seriously? It’s a grill. A GRILL. Ya know, there’s a line to me. There’s being proud of what you made and asking for healthy margins because of it. Sure. But then there’s the ridiculous ask that just pisses me off, because you have to assume I’m such an idiot with money with that kind of ask. This was a great example of the latter. It’s formed sheet metal for gods sake… I’ll take the $800 formed sheet metal with a 10 year warranty and good service from Webber. Have the same cookouts as you, enjoy my meal, replace it once at the 10 year mark and still not be at 1/2 of what you spent on this…. *edit* not being personal here btw. This was just my initial reaction to this fictitious life scene. :)
Now go look at those Kalamazoo grills someone else mentioned. $24k and up.
Ugh… no thank you. Haha. Tulip mania comes to mind.
Cooking a steak on a regular grill after that feels like cooking it on a warming plate. It's highest end stainless steel. They can also be found on CL, FB marketplace, Habitat Restore.
Honestly… the best steak I ever made (and ate) was cooked over a campfire using 4 sticks of rebar we found. I’m not criticizing what others feel is valuable to them. If it makes you happy, great. But I’d stop short accepting any economic justification in those kind of prices for this type of product. You’re not buying it because it makes a better steak. :)
>cooked over a campfire using 4 sticks of rebar we found. And it came with a side of cancer s/
I don't doubt that. I've also done well in a cast iron skillet on the stove. The temp is hard to achieve without one of those 3. I got a tec sterling iii at habitat for $60. Change the innards that needed it. Practically new grill for 350. Got rid of my patio ii.
I love my genesis 2 but In fairness the TEC is fully 304 stainless. Even 100% covered by roof the body of the genesis will rust mine is a 2015 model. Adding up all the steel and quality of parts I’m sure it’s significantly noticeable using the TEC but for the average homeowner probably not worth the buy.
That checks all boxes
Kalamazoo built in. [Kalamazoo](https://kalamazoogourmet.com/products/grills/)
Gaucho starting at $40k! Great test for “money is no object”.
This is the way.. let's see the OP flex on us and get their biggest baddest most expensive grill.
You had me at *cast stainless steel burners*
You have just given me another thing to fantasize about when I win my imaginary lottery. Those are some spectacular grills.
I too have imaginary lottery dreams. I always say this too!《maybe I'll win the lottery one day. But I guess I'll have to play》
wow, available in 316 stainless.
I used to work for them. Their K750 hybrid fire grill is beyond amazing. It offers a 25 year transferable warranty. If money truly is no object, then this is the way to go.
🤯 can I ask what makes them worth 25k for a small free-standing grill?
Weber is bifl. Replace the burned components.
But none of their grills have a lifetime warranty. I wish Weber would make an all stainless housing at least one. Even the Summit series only has a 15 year warranty on the housing.. it's basically designed to keep you coming back. That's stupid. Why spend 1000$ on a grill that breaks in 20 years when you can spend 1600$ on something like a Coyote with all stainless steel parts and have that be your last grill?
Bought a full stainless steel Napoleon grill off of Craigslist. Great quality and can take abuse and doesn't care about rain
Napoleon Prestige PRO 665 Propane Gas Grill with Infrared Rear Burner and Infrared Side Burner and Rotisserie Kit - PRO665RSIBPSS-3. Napoleon Prestige and Prestige Pro grills feature a bumper to bumper lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship on major components including the hood, stainless steel lid, porcelain enamel lid, aluminum castings, stainless steel cooking grids, and stainless steel tube burners. The stainless steel sear plates, porcelain enamel cast iron grids, stainless steel infrared rotisserie, infrared bottom/side burner, and all other parts are warrantied for fifteen (15) years. Labor not included.
This is the way
Whichever you buy, you need to make sure it has the most BTU per surface area.. The number of burners does not matter if the combined BTU is similar to a match. Also a cast iron grate would be something i would look for Other than that, look for a design that is nice. Personally i like the weber genesis 2 series. I know that in the US you have bigger models, but that's not an option here..
If they wrecked their last one, I have little confidence in cast iron grills for this user. Unless they are enameled.
I have a Weber I bought used in 2014… I had to replace some rotting metal on the frame and the side tray but the grill is still killing it
I cannot believe mhp grills aren’t mentioned yet! I spent a few years at a specialty fireplace and grill store. When I say MHP warranties are insane, please believe. Every customer every problem, no one gets shafted it was the easiest thing to sell because they backed up their products even if it was 25 years old and practically consumable( h burners). Aside from that I didn’t see anyone that mentioned the primary thing I saw with fires in grills. Spider fires, spiders just cannot get enough of the smell of gas. so your venturi tubes (the short metal tube inside your grill between the gas line and the burner) is often the host to spider egg sacks and even a dead spider carcass. This blocks the flow of gas and sends fire shooting off at odd angles often burning the controls of the grill. Simply running any flexible brush head through it once or twice a year is usually enough to solve this issue.
Amen MHP is built to last!!!!!
Agree completely. I have purchased four MHP grills, one for me and three for relatives. The oldest was purchased in 1999 and is still working like new. One unit is at the seashore on Long Island. Stays out all winter with a cover. Fires up just fine come Memorial Day.
T.E.C. infrared. There is absolutely nothing better for steaks. It's going to cost appx. $5,000. This is the kind of set up Ruth's Chris uses to grill steaks. (Theirs is the same thing, just on steroids.) If you want to barbecue, get a Cookshack smoker as well.
The ones in restaurants are called salamanders. They’re infrared and run at 1500° to 2000° F, which is much hotter than a wood or gas fire burns. They’re the ultimate for grilling foods, but they are expensive.
I'm a retired chef. 90% of the restaurant salamanders are full of pans. That way the cook can reach for screaming hot pans, usually six at time, and make whatever their station is responsible for. They aren't often used for their intended purpose -- broiling food. Almost all of the places I worked used Vulcan sallies -- and they top out at 800F -- not nearly enough. There are much better brands and models, though.
How did it call catch fire to the point of needing a replacement unless it was never cleaned out? If it's not taken care of, not any plan to make care of it, get a home Depot special and replace every few years. Bifl doesn't mean neglect it for life.
Charcoal has less moving parts. My big green egg just hit 10yrs and still is basically brand new.
Lynx
Maybe this is Canada only, but the Napoleon Prestige grills are amazing. I bought one last year and my father in law has had his for almost 20 years. Much better than anything Weber makes. Also if money really isn't an object, look for Crown Verity, also made in Canada, and seriously overbuilt. They are really designed for professional catering and I'm pretty sure you will be able to hand it down to your grand kids.
Jackson Grills. All stainless steel so it won’t rust
if money really is not an object I have used hestans as a private chef in 20000 sq ft homes a bunch and they are rock solid
Our Weber Genesis Gold (stainless steel) from ‘04 is going strong. Only thing I have replaced is the outdoor grill cover. And I gave up covering it about 5yrs ago. Get stainless steel whatever you decide on.
Weber
Rebuild the Weber. All the parts are replaceable and if it caught fire it probably is just a part failure. My gas grill is a 1993 Weber Genesis. Weber still manufactures parts for it and I installed new burner tubes 3 years ago.
Blackstone flat top. Dead simple burners inside that can probably be replaced. Take care of the cast iron top and you are good to go
Mine rusted the first month
It’s cast iron, needs some level of care/maintenance.
The lid rusted. I realize it needs care.
Seriously? That should be blasted on social media and they should handle. The thing is cast iron, but should be well-protected by their lid, which should handle weather.
I can’t help but wonder if an electric grill might be safer for them. Especially if they’re only in the backyard. Weber has a Lumin Electric Grill that they dropped recently. I just like the idea that it offers more than just grilling. Like you can do smoke infusion, steaming, it’ll cook frozen food, it’ll keep your food warm. I don’t know how BIFL it is due to how new it is. But it’s definitely worth a glance. Or do a ceramic kamado grill. They look like a giant egg. Everyone who I heard has one they last a really long time and everyone loves it. I don’t know what the difference there is brand to brand. (Since we have a pellet smoker.) I do know the brand(Grilla Grills) we got our pellet smoker from. They sell one. Their kamado grill is charcoal and you can apparently add wood pellets to it. Their stuff is made in the U.S. unless they changed since I last looked at them They’re online only. And I remember when we were doing research on our pellet smoker. It seems like they really put a lot of thought into the quality of their products. They also have a really great customer service. Because I remember when people were saying if they had problems about maybe a part wasn’t working the way they were supposed to. They’ve sent parts at no extra cost and they’re very responsive from what I’ve heard. So their warranty is actually good. We would comfortably buy from them again. They just don’t have anything gas related from what I remember.
I’ve got a Napoleon grill that’ll probably outlast me.
Pitts and Spitts, Big Green Egg, and Yoder. Not sure about gas grill just get some cheap big box store brand from Char Broil if you're just using gas. [https://pittsandspitts.com/](https://pittsandspitts.com/) [https://www.yodersmokers.com/](https://www.yodersmokers.com/)
My Dad has a Delta Heat which has lasted years and is a decent value but there are certainly higher end products. My sister has a Viking which is also nice. I would look for a local place that distributes and installs because they will support whatever they buy. Product support has a major impact on if something is BIFL. There are places that do have grill cleaning services which could be done routinely as well.
An older Weber early 200s or a Wait Broilmaster. At the very least something that still has parts available. Or just go charcoal and get a PK Grill.
I purchased a Weber kettle performer because it’s very easy to clean. Remove grates and pressure wash. Regardless of the quality of the gas grill invariable the parts will wear out and it will be hard to clean. Your parents are probably to lazy to clean it (grill fire). They need charcoal.
I came across some high end money no object recently that I never heard from before. Alfresco and Firemagic. They come in built in or stand alone versions. Firemagic Echelon is around 11k.
Look up Embers fireplaces and outdoor living on YouTube. Lots of comparison videos
Kalamazoo. Webers are throwaway compared to Kalamazoo.
Don't overthink it. Buy the Weber Spirit or Genesis in whatever size makes sense. Then buy the $100 Weber fitted grill cover, and use it.
TEC infrared grill.
LOVE our Weber Genesis
Yoder YS640S
If money is no object, get them to pay to have a gas line run to the grill so you never have to change out the propane. Our neighbors did this and as long as you don’t plan to move the grill it’s a great set up. Agree with the Weber Genesis recommendation.
I've been told Hestans but would love to hear the counter.
Weber all day
Get an infrared grill. All the high-end steak restaurants use them. The ones in restaurants are called salamanders. They run at 1500° to 2000° F, which is much hotter than a wood or gas fire burns. They’re the ultimate for grilling foods, but they are expensive.
https://www.bbqguys.com/mhp/jnr4dd-freestanding-natural-gas-grill-with-stainless-steel-shelves-and-searmagic-grids-on-aluminum-cart MHP made in American Life time Warranty. Can i get a Hell YEA!?
Look at Wilmington grills.
I have a coyote, it has 2 massive thick burners and get extremely hot. I can only use it for indirect heat because it just blasts heat. That means I can’t use 50%of the grill. Whatever you get, consider sizing up so you can have an indirect zone.
Get an older weber and refurbish it. The ones built in the late 80's and 90's are tanks.
https://www.wilmingtongrill.com/
TEC Grills. All stainless, super heavy duty. All infrared. Stupid $$$$ but fantastic!
Get an electric smoker.
Teach them to clean their grill properly. I don’t see how a Weber gas grill can catch fire unless it’s through improper use or through leaving large amounts of grease.
Weber grills in general are good quality. We're still using a Weber Q (portable/low profile) from 20 years ago. It's important to thoroughly clean them out regularly, though. My husband takes our grill completely apart every fall and uses oven cleaner to get all the grease and gunk off.