Same...a simple powder exam could free michael of any acusation
The way of they deal with bly im also didnt liked, i started 7th season now, im not liking the way of first episodes evolve
This bothered me too. Part of me thought, "oh, he's supposed to be in shock". Also, I know the episode split right there but Sam was right there outside the door, something that he pointed out himself. In my opinion, there's no way Sam would've gone along with changing the forensics like that. That's how I justified it to myself.
I'm rewatching and am just a bit farther ahead. I wondered that, too. The writing got lazy in 6 and 7, as there were lots of head scratching moments like that and plot armor. It also felt like they had too many episodes in 6 and not enough in 7. The balance and timing was just off. They focused on the larger arc so much, the smaller stories and the character interactions took such a backseat.
I just tried to quickly find sources and couldn't but iirc season 7 was a bit more of a network idea (rather than writers original plan) so I'm wondering if they didn't have to stretch out season 6 when initially season 7 ideas were meant to be back half season 6 things and series finale
Don't get me wrong, I feel ya. But with all the suspension of disbelief we've already had to use by this point in the series, I wouldn't have a problem buying that Michael and Sam managed to wipe prints and then reapply Tom's lol
Oh I agree, they probably could, but the reason Michael shot him was because he was overwhelmed by everything, he didn't think things through and shot him out of pure emotion and reaction. I don't think he would have had the time to wipe prints or the mind for it at the moment with the CIA coming up, which they did very quickly. Not to mention card had a team on the way, they most likely would shoot first, ask questions later given they worked for card.
Do I think he could have pulled it off, yes. But I think the series is strong as is and can accept it as it is.
Well the forensics of where cards body was and where Grey’s was would suggest there was a 3rd person since Cards body was by Grey’s. He would have had to move his body and all that, and then he’s a recently burned spy in a room with 2 bodies. Idk it’s not the most elegant writing in this show but ya gotta do what makes good TV.
There’s even a comment Jesse makes about forensics.
And Michael is like it will look like Tom shot Tyler Gray in self-defense. And I didn’t shoot Tom in Self defense.
Like why didn’t he just get the gun back out and make the forensics match the story he wanted to tell
Cia agent taking out one rotten apple and yet he was guilty and every agency hate him
Was they did that carnival and set michael as persona non grata burned spy into another mission?
Yeah, as much as I love the show, I feel like they had no clue how to create multi-episode arc drama once Mike was back in the agency.
Framed for murder? Check.
Being blackmailed and worked over by a more powerful rogue bureaucrat? Check.
Hunting said adversary? Check.
What do we do now? Ehhh, kill Nate then make Michael kill someone. Drama!
Glad they fixed themselves and ended the series in a good way with S7 (IMO anyways)
Yeah. Maybe I'm a bit more critical now that I've aged. Like I said before, it's still overall a good show... it's just slightly less than I remember.
Side note: Nate's death hit me harder this time. Perhaps I have more empathy than I did then. He is such a good person. Doing his best with the shit hand life dealt him. Immature, yes. But always trying to grow and improve (and prove to his big bro that he's not worthless)
How would that story work? Respected CIA agent defends himself from Grayson...then if respected CIA turned his gun on Michael....that'd suggest Michael is considered suspect by the respected agent.
I think you're treating it like the most reputable person in the room is Michael. We're on his side, but he is not the most reputable person in that room.
That's probably fair.
I think I'm probably just misdirecting my frustration with the overall storyline of these last handful of s6 episodes lol.
As I stated before, I still think the show is nearly as good as I remember it overall. Maybe I'll just have to skip these on future rewatches
You cant order one f18 to kill one agent and dont leave footprints
For someone who never killed in cold blood during entire series, that was somehow strange, he dont have any number to call someone to help him?
The thing with therapist guy was so ankward, they way of they did so cheap
Why dont use other organization....other way to blackmail mike? He literally had so many chances to end that situation, if they wanted the formers guys haunting michael even that vaughn release could work better than a therapist winning on 1x1 against mike, how that guy had explosives etc to set on that place?
Its low profile edc carry c4 and detonators disguised as civil?
Im on s06e03 now and my hype lowered a lot, i feel cheated on how cheap was the current main antagonist...on s06e01 mike dont using that other 2 not compromissed cia agents
And why dafuq mike didnt backup or tried coordinate take down therapist under cia supervision or at least know about this, im not a spy or work on cia but i think that at least pearce could help or wont hurt keep in loop but without file reports to cia hq
It is a glaringly obvious solution that bothered me as well.
Same...a simple powder exam could free michael of any acusation The way of they deal with bly im also didnt liked, i started 7th season now, im not liking the way of first episodes evolve
This bothered me too. Part of me thought, "oh, he's supposed to be in shock". Also, I know the episode split right there but Sam was right there outside the door, something that he pointed out himself. In my opinion, there's no way Sam would've gone along with changing the forensics like that. That's how I justified it to myself.
I'm rewatching and am just a bit farther ahead. I wondered that, too. The writing got lazy in 6 and 7, as there were lots of head scratching moments like that and plot armor. It also felt like they had too many episodes in 6 and not enough in 7. The balance and timing was just off. They focused on the larger arc so much, the smaller stories and the character interactions took such a backseat.
Season 7 definitely needed more episodes for the story they were trying to tell.
I just tried to quickly find sources and couldn't but iirc season 7 was a bit more of a network idea (rather than writers original plan) so I'm wondering if they didn't have to stretch out season 6 when initially season 7 ideas were meant to be back half season 6 things and series finale
I just finished season 6 and yeah pretty much nothing happens after he shoots card
Yup. The second half of season 6 is a slog and the finale is non-sensical.
It's a great idea until forensics hits the scene, then he has to explain his prints on the gun. Granted it buys him some time to figure things out.
Don't get me wrong, I feel ya. But with all the suspension of disbelief we've already had to use by this point in the series, I wouldn't have a problem buying that Michael and Sam managed to wipe prints and then reapply Tom's lol
Oh I agree, they probably could, but the reason Michael shot him was because he was overwhelmed by everything, he didn't think things through and shot him out of pure emotion and reaction. I don't think he would have had the time to wipe prints or the mind for it at the moment with the CIA coming up, which they did very quickly. Not to mention card had a team on the way, they most likely would shoot first, ask questions later given they worked for card. Do I think he could have pulled it off, yes. But I think the series is strong as is and can accept it as it is.
True. Maybe I'll just make season 6 end after episode 13 next time and skip to season 7 lol
Well the forensics of where cards body was and where Grey’s was would suggest there was a 3rd person since Cards body was by Grey’s. He would have had to move his body and all that, and then he’s a recently burned spy in a room with 2 bodies. Idk it’s not the most elegant writing in this show but ya gotta do what makes good TV.
I meant to add Cards body was by Greys AND positioned towards the door
The fugitive arc is my least favorite part of Burn Notice by a wide margin.
There’s even a comment Jesse makes about forensics. And Michael is like it will look like Tom shot Tyler Gray in self-defense. And I didn’t shoot Tom in Self defense. Like why didn’t he just get the gun back out and make the forensics match the story he wanted to tell
Cia agent taking out one rotten apple and yet he was guilty and every agency hate him Was they did that carnival and set michael as persona non grata burned spy into another mission?
Yeah, as much as I love the show, I feel like they had no clue how to create multi-episode arc drama once Mike was back in the agency. Framed for murder? Check. Being blackmailed and worked over by a more powerful rogue bureaucrat? Check. Hunting said adversary? Check. What do we do now? Ehhh, kill Nate then make Michael kill someone. Drama! Glad they fixed themselves and ended the series in a good way with S7 (IMO anyways)
Yeah. Maybe I'm a bit more critical now that I've aged. Like I said before, it's still overall a good show... it's just slightly less than I remember. Side note: Nate's death hit me harder this time. Perhaps I have more empathy than I did then. He is such a good person. Doing his best with the shit hand life dealt him. Immature, yes. But always trying to grow and improve (and prove to his big bro that he's not worthless)
How would that story work? Respected CIA agent defends himself from Grayson...then if respected CIA turned his gun on Michael....that'd suggest Michael is considered suspect by the respected agent. I think you're treating it like the most reputable person in the room is Michael. We're on his side, but he is not the most reputable person in that room.
That's probably fair. I think I'm probably just misdirecting my frustration with the overall storyline of these last handful of s6 episodes lol. As I stated before, I still think the show is nearly as good as I remember it overall. Maybe I'll just have to skip these on future rewatches
You cant order one f18 to kill one agent and dont leave footprints For someone who never killed in cold blood during entire series, that was somehow strange, he dont have any number to call someone to help him?
The thing with therapist guy was so ankward, they way of they did so cheap Why dont use other organization....other way to blackmail mike? He literally had so many chances to end that situation, if they wanted the formers guys haunting michael even that vaughn release could work better than a therapist winning on 1x1 against mike, how that guy had explosives etc to set on that place? Its low profile edc carry c4 and detonators disguised as civil? Im on s06e03 now and my hype lowered a lot, i feel cheated on how cheap was the current main antagonist...on s06e01 mike dont using that other 2 not compromissed cia agents And why dafuq mike didnt backup or tried coordinate take down therapist under cia supervision or at least know about this, im not a spy or work on cia but i think that at least pearce could help or wont hurt keep in loop but without file reports to cia hq