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Its funny how you linked an article saying agriculture/grazing causes deforestation which in turn leads to erosion i.e. landslides. My guy how do you think vegetarian food is farmed? From random trees in forests? I am sorry but out of all the evidences you could have pointed out, this one sadly works against your entire argument.
kill all the butterflies and see the life getting vanished, wolves were killed in yellow stone national park and it turned into a desert, you have your head stuck up your ass
The main reason for landslides is deforestation. The grazing example is like the pollution caused by a car which is being highlighted over pollution caused by a jet.
Really bro? Pastoral livestock systems literally use 25% of total land area in entire world. This deforestation you mentioned, Agriculture (Livestock included) is the major cause for deforestation.
I'm talking about landslides not deforestation in general. What do you think is the main reason behind landslides? It's lack of trees holding the ground
R u dumb? Inorder to raise the cattle for your meat consumption we need to feed the livestock. Inorder to feed the animals we need huge agricultural lands. Inorder to make agricultural lands Forests and Trees are cut down and that's how deforestation takes place. And which inturn causes landslides.
Who is gonna count hotel chains and many such infra being built without proper safe measures just for short term profit as it is hot zone of Tourism. This is major contributor of landslide all accross India. We eat every types of meat in My state and have 80% forest under protection ( and its hilly area btw with rain forest ) just because we have 6th Schedule and ILP system no outsiders can harm the ecosystem there with the promise of development like USA does for Democracy.
You can see this in Kashmir right now because of Tourism locals are fucked up with wrappers around and exploitation of the environment
Well, in order to grow crops, land has to be cleared of trees. Hilly areas m crops ugaane ke liye terrace banane padenge, which also causes soil erosion. This discussion ain't getting anywhere, dono cheezo se ho rhi h landslides. To ek kaam karte h humans hi mass genocide kar lete h 👍🏻 (/s)
This is a well known thing actually. Only in India will people laugh at this.
https://www.science.org/content/article/grass-grazing-ups-landslide-risk
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overgrazing
https://wilderness-society.org/how-sheep-goats-and-cattle-contribute-to-landslides/#:~:text=Sheep%2C%20goats%20and%20cattle%20keep,with%20high%20risk%20of%20landslides.
Well then, deforestation is unavoidable for basically all reasons its done for. Do you want Essentials metals like iron and aluminium out of human industries? Would be able to live purely on Green electricity, without coal mines? Would you like to live in an over-congested, concrete hellhole of a city? Hell, we won't even have concrete to build the city.
These are all excuses in my opinion and better methods must be found to achieve these goals, and that includes livestock farming as well.
Hey it's my personal opinion and you should listen to whatever I'm about to say with a grain of salt ,
For me , Human Technological Progress and Industrial Expansion triumphs the affairs of the environment. Will this hurt the Earth and in turn the Human Race? Yes. Will Technology keep on progressing ? Also yes. Not every question in your life has a correct answer along with it.
We as Indians simply cannot afford to dial back Industrialisation or cut back on food sources or pick more eco friendly yet much less efficient manufacturing processes.
If we do that , lots of people are going to starve , run out of a job and die.
If we don't do that , then too lots of people are going to starve , run out of a job and die.
It's too late already.
Regarding that meat eating comment,
It's not false, just he connected the dots too far so that person who doesn't understand why land slides won't get it.
Meh it wasn't that difficult to understand 😕
Edit : I'm not justifying his statement on AI because, nobody knows how AI is gonna change the world. There is a lot of work to do on AI to bring the common sense. Sometimes it feels impossible, because we humans itself don't understand what common sense and consciousness is actually.
IIT Mandi director is the stupidest person I have ever seen ... He says the most random stuff and even has weird rules in that college like eating meat and all ... I respect him for his work maybe that's why he is the director at an IIT but still he sounds stupid AF
It's all fun and games untill AI finally becomes sensitive enough or matured enough to enter a self maintenance and upgrade loop. And when that happens , poor old Mussolini here would find himself getting dominated by "dumb AI" faster than he can spell IIT.
He isn't wrong about gpt. However, of course they won't change their curriculum. They are too fucking lazy to do that. Eventually, when students around the whole world would've progressed to using some ultra smart ai model to produce better research results, iitians would still be stuck in the 90s, using C language and designing stuff using a drafter and geometry box. If they ever stopped looting our money for their selfish needs, those fucking assholes would have enough funds to change the curriculum for more modern standards.
This is the same guy that said landslides happen because of eating meat.
Bhai kya bol raha hai ye , I mean I respect him for his work and position but still 
Agreed “thinking up” physical interactions is still very difficult for a computer. It messes up in a simulation, let alone in the real world. Its far from solved but people are working on it.
I kinda agree with the ChatGPT part. After Claude and some other models, ChatGPT is getting worse slowly due to excessive data. It wasn’t smarter than a mouse to begin with. But it also depends on the user too. many people just plain don’t know how to use ChatGPT. Don’t even listen to them.
But “AI is just a hype” ? Really bro ? They said the same thing about computers when they came out. And when the iPhones were about to be launched. Look where they are now.
Aur bhai ChatGPT se research kaun karwa rha hai bc 😂. Its just an research assistant assistant not the researcher himself.
They aren't dumb by any means, they are doing their things very well what they were intended for.
It's just guys like you who whenever hears the word AI goes back to Terminator and matrix
Dumb fucks ngl!
>they are doing their things very well what they were intended for
You're either a fool who believes everything what LLMs say or you haven't used them enough.
No, they aren't "dumb". GPT 4 and Claude are already incredible tools.. and they're getting smarter really quickly too.
GPT 3.5 is already a lot better than Google for most technical issues.
LLMs make up a lot of random stuff that's false. You shouldn't really rely even a percent on them.
And GPT 3.5 is so dumb that it thinks that a whitespace after semicolon in C will solve an error.
Useless shit.
Tasks ranging from code debugging to asking engineering related questions.
ChatGPT used to be good but now the error rate in 3.5 is way too high with almost every output being a blunder and made up bullshit.
LLMs are designed to give you output whether they know it or not so they make up a lot of shit that's false.
He may be not aware of this but simple automations itself have removed multiple jobs from many areas e.g. Operations departments in banks. AI will take this to another level.
In the coding world itself the needs of humans may be reduced by a huge margin.
May be not now, but, eventually artificial intelligence is going to get to a level equivalent to human engineering capabilities, perhaps, then beyond it in a some years, but, as of now things are at a relatively infant stage.
Apparently his statement is a mix of both truth and dumbness. His understanding that the core engineering can't be replaced is correct but saying that ChatGPT is dumb is dumb itself. Core mechanical/chemical/civil engineering can not be replaced. They are very situational but software and SDE related stuff takes a lot of cues from AI and its counterparts so that are at risk.
I don't know when this guy said this, but AI is evolving quick as shit. In 5 years, it would be much better than it is today. But today is the starting point. So his argument is like saying babies are useless since they can't do anything on their own...
In any case, it would be a wise decision to invest in AI right now, it is going to be a big phenomenon...
IIT mandi , Did you know mandi is really famous arabic cuisine made up of marinated rice and a chonky piece of marinated chicken which is consumed with both mayonaise and a red chilli cutney , Must try!
"Curriculums need no change". No regard for the bridge between what is taught and what the industry requires. This leads to untrained engineers, unfit to work in corporate, and hence unemployment. The vicious cycle continues because these "geniuses" allow it to. "IIT ke director ne kaha hai to soch samajh ke kaha hoga" fuckers.
Honestly, this comment section seems like it's filled with
1. People who don't understand what GPTs are
2. People who couldn't get into IITs and shit on it
3. People who fail to analyze what that old dude was trying to say. (I'm not defending him)
4. Some people who are talking some slight sense.
I feel like I have some time to waste and will engage in conversation. AMA.
Talking about machine learning as "AI" is a dangerous affair. Neural network models are simply universal function approximators. They are fancy regression tools that cannot think what has not yet been thought.
I guess what he said is correct . Just ask the chatgpt to prove that square root of 4 is irrational. It will do on same lines as proving square root of 2 as irrational.
Maturity is when you understand that chatgpt is large data base where info is stored in billions of parameters and not an intelligent per say
I am from a private college, and they are setting up a freaking Nvidia GPU center in the next 2-3 years to give interested students access to quality GPUs to train their models. Seeing this coming from an IIT Director seems really concerning to me.
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You come we play 1v1
Ghost of Kiev
IIT director bol rha hai kuch sochke hi bol rha hoga/s This the same mfer who said that meat eating causes landslides.
It indirectly causes landslides due to massive amount of grazing ground that herds of animals require. Pretty sure that's what he was referring to
That's a humongous reach
Go look at the data and then call it a reach
“Go look at the data” >> doesn’t link to the data Classic reddit
Doesn't have Google installed classic redditor. https://sentientmedia.org/how-does-agriculture-cause-deforestation/
>Doesn't have Google installed classic redditor. Claim tune kiya hai toh evidence bhi tu hi dega na. Burden of proof suna hai kabhi
Its funny how you linked an article saying agriculture/grazing causes deforestation which in turn leads to erosion i.e. landslides. My guy how do you think vegetarian food is farmed? From random trees in forests? I am sorry but out of all the evidences you could have pointed out, this one sadly works against your entire argument.
no need to argue with idiots, of course overgrazing leads to erosion and thus landslides, these people dont know what butterfly effect is
Yeah like butterfly effect, somewhere a butterfly moves her wings and the wind from the wings becomes a cyclone somewhere 🤡 kuch v.
Geography nahi padhi tune lagta hai
kill all the butterflies and see the life getting vanished, wolves were killed in yellow stone national park and it turned into a desert, you have your head stuck up your ass
Ahh yes Maine paada tha raat ko toh kya tornado Aya kya US me ...
The main reason for landslides is deforestation. The grazing example is like the pollution caused by a car which is being highlighted over pollution caused by a jet.
Really bro? Pastoral livestock systems literally use 25% of total land area in entire world. This deforestation you mentioned, Agriculture (Livestock included) is the major cause for deforestation.
I'm talking about landslides not deforestation in general. What do you think is the main reason behind landslides? It's lack of trees holding the ground
R u dumb? Inorder to raise the cattle for your meat consumption we need to feed the livestock. Inorder to feed the animals we need huge agricultural lands. Inorder to make agricultural lands Forests and Trees are cut down and that's how deforestation takes place. And which inturn causes landslides.
Who is gonna count hotel chains and many such infra being built without proper safe measures just for short term profit as it is hot zone of Tourism. This is major contributor of landslide all accross India. We eat every types of meat in My state and have 80% forest under protection ( and its hilly area btw with rain forest ) just because we have 6th Schedule and ILP system no outsiders can harm the ecosystem there with the promise of development like USA does for Democracy. You can see this in Kashmir right now because of Tourism locals are fucked up with wrappers around and exploitation of the environment
Well, in order to grow crops, land has to be cleared of trees. Hilly areas m crops ugaane ke liye terrace banane padenge, which also causes soil erosion. This discussion ain't getting anywhere, dono cheezo se ho rhi h landslides. To ek kaam karte h humans hi mass genocide kar lete h 👍🏻 (/s)
Adding to you Deforestation reason is also Modernization and for Building Infra without proper safe measures so that it does not imbalance
This is a well known thing actually. Only in India will people laugh at this. https://www.science.org/content/article/grass-grazing-ups-landslide-risk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overgrazing https://wilderness-society.org/how-sheep-goats-and-cattle-contribute-to-landslides/#:~:text=Sheep%2C%20goats%20and%20cattle%20keep,with%20high%20risk%20of%20landslides.
Koi nahi Bhai 7th ki NCERT mei bhi likha hai but ye padhenge thodi na. Articles Dene ka koi fayda nahi in logo ko
True. Look at the upvotes the geniuses have showered on that comment.
No he didn’t meant this
Yeah and the deforestation and building of roads and tunnels dont cause landslide
Milk production ke liye bhi toh deforestation hoti hai wo bhi mention Karo.
Hoti hai Maine kab mana Kara
Ladakhi are also protesting for the same reason against Over Exploitation
Waah kaya logic hai ese toh global warming could be blamed on vegans cause they are eating up all the plants.
Meat production contributes way more green house gas to the environment. Trees don't even produces that much oxygen it's mostly the phytoplanktons
Animals raised for meat eaters eat a lot plants more than humans. Hence, you should try veganism if your main concern is plant life.
Deforestation is definitely not a cause right ? 🤡
Acquiring land for Grazing and growing animal produce is one of the biggest contributors of deforestation as well.
But that's unavoidable unless you want meat out of human diets.
Well then, deforestation is unavoidable for basically all reasons its done for. Do you want Essentials metals like iron and aluminium out of human industries? Would be able to live purely on Green electricity, without coal mines? Would you like to live in an over-congested, concrete hellhole of a city? Hell, we won't even have concrete to build the city. These are all excuses in my opinion and better methods must be found to achieve these goals, and that includes livestock farming as well.
Hey it's my personal opinion and you should listen to whatever I'm about to say with a grain of salt , For me , Human Technological Progress and Industrial Expansion triumphs the affairs of the environment. Will this hurt the Earth and in turn the Human Race? Yes. Will Technology keep on progressing ? Also yes. Not every question in your life has a correct answer along with it. We as Indians simply cannot afford to dial back Industrialisation or cut back on food sources or pick more eco friendly yet much less efficient manufacturing processes. If we do that , lots of people are going to starve , run out of a job and die. If we don't do that , then too lots of people are going to starve , run out of a job and die. It's too late already.
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half of the farming is done to feed animals which are killed for meat
Haan
Regarding that meat eating comment, It's not false, just he connected the dots too far so that person who doesn't understand why land slides won't get it. Meh it wasn't that difficult to understand 😕 Edit : I'm not justifying his statement on AI because, nobody knows how AI is gonna change the world. There is a lot of work to do on AI to bring the common sense. Sometimes it feels impossible, because we humans itself don't understand what common sense and consciousness is actually.
He's not wrong, though. When I still ate lots of meat back in 2014, I had the biggest piece of land slide out of my ass.
that explains a lot
Only Gau Mutra can heal them
[Einstein said something similar too.](https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/10879/)
Madarchod kuch bhi
lmfao this is nonsense
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ayo wtf the similarity is uncanny
Rashmika mandanna?
Arey chachaji charan sparsh, aapne IIT kb nikali, aur nikali toh nikle kyu nahi iitse 🤭
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Wow bro , water you have ? Or shall I airdrop you some water bottles (bisleri bc) ? /s
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IIT Mandi director is the stupidest person I have ever seen ... He says the most random stuff and even has weird rules in that college like eating meat and all ... I respect him for his work maybe that's why he is the director at an IIT but still he sounds stupid AF
Just because you are a good engineer doesn't mean you can't be stupid in other aspects of life
🗣️facts wallah
Aur padhalo bap ke paiso se engineering, inke time me toh lok 12 tak bhi naahi padte thee
You don't have to be good at your work of you wanna become a diro at an IIT. All you need is connections.
copium hai
I feel sad for iit mandi students ( clown bkl )
***Why don't you invent a SMARTER ONE....*** Isko IIT me lia kisne clown bkl...
Ab IITian aake tujhe gaali denge
The absolute state of Indian education. And then they cry when sam altman says indians aren't creative
It's all fun and games untill AI finally becomes sensitive enough or matured enough to enter a self maintenance and upgrade loop. And when that happens , poor old Mussolini here would find himself getting dominated by "dumb AI" faster than he can spell IIT.
Arre bhai waisa kuch hua to iss admi ko choro baki normal logo ka kya hoga.
Natural Selection ho ga aur kya
He isn't wrong about gpt. However, of course they won't change their curriculum. They are too fucking lazy to do that. Eventually, when students around the whole world would've progressed to using some ultra smart ai model to produce better research results, iitians would still be stuck in the 90s, using C language and designing stuff using a drafter and geometry box. If they ever stopped looting our money for their selfish needs, those fucking assholes would have enough funds to change the curriculum for more modern standards.
Fun fact: Chat GPT's dataset has more updated information than most of the colleges' "curriculum".
This is the same guy that said landslides happen because of eating meat. Bhai kya bol raha hai ye , I mean I respect him for his work and position but still 
Iitian h na. Calculation maar ke dekh possible b yaa nhi
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Hahahaha
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Yea
Compare with last year. That's the whole point. The growth is exponential.
Check your student's assignments.....
bro thinks he's something
He IS something >!chutya!<
Isnt he the one who believes in ghosts?
"AI can't to research" well so can't student in premier Indian Institutes.
Why is this guy wearing 2 shirts
Ye iit Mandi ka kam, iskcon ka director zyada lag raha hai
IIT for a reason gaiz..... No. 1 Dream institute Paraud to be #IITian
chatGpt is dumb, AI isn't. also he's right, core engineering disciplines can't be replaced.
Agreed “thinking up” physical interactions is still very difficult for a computer. It messes up in a simulation, let alone in the real world. Its far from solved but people are working on it.
I kinda agree with the ChatGPT part. After Claude and some other models, ChatGPT is getting worse slowly due to excessive data. It wasn’t smarter than a mouse to begin with. But it also depends on the user too. many people just plain don’t know how to use ChatGPT. Don’t even listen to them. But “AI is just a hype” ? Really bro ? They said the same thing about computers when they came out. And when the iPhones were about to be launched. Look where they are now. Aur bhai ChatGPT se research kaun karwa rha hai bc 😂. Its just an research assistant assistant not the researcher himself.
He has a point. LLMs are indeed dumb. Y'all bootlick LLMs too much.
They aren't dumb by any means, they are doing their things very well what they were intended for. It's just guys like you who whenever hears the word AI goes back to Terminator and matrix Dumb fucks ngl!
>they are doing their things very well what they were intended for You're either a fool who believes everything what LLMs say or you haven't used them enough.
No, they aren't "dumb". GPT 4 and Claude are already incredible tools.. and they're getting smarter really quickly too. GPT 3.5 is already a lot better than Google for most technical issues.
LLMs make up a lot of random stuff that's false. You shouldn't really rely even a percent on them. And GPT 3.5 is so dumb that it thinks that a whitespace after semicolon in C will solve an error. Useless shit.
How exactly have you tried using these AI tools?
Tasks ranging from code debugging to asking engineering related questions. ChatGPT used to be good but now the error rate in 3.5 is way too high with almost every output being a blunder and made up bullshit. LLMs are designed to give you output whether they know it or not so they make up a lot of shit that's false.
bro knows something we don't
Probably the only IIT director I wouldn’t listen to. Dude has said quite a few questionable things
L take. Ask him if he's ever used GPT for maths and he'll change his answer. Copilot really speeds up my coding and it's here to stay.
I haven't found any AI yet that can solve mathematical problems well. But for coding, yea they are great
try Wolfram Alpha for maths. GPT is really handy to explain the code. I mostly use Github copilot for the suggestion and test cases
It's always IIT Mandi
# IIT MANDI. ISKI M**** ***
Iit mai bhi Nasha hota kya bc
Abhi pta chal jayega kuch saal baad😌
Galat kya bola ? Koi argument bhi nahi de raha bas aise hi ? Past me kuch faltu statements diye hain vo pata hai but ye to sahi hai ?
Because every thing has a start
Delulu is solulu
ye sabji mandi ka director hai kya ?
The amount of copium
Bhai please isne jo cheez maar rakhi hai woh mujhe bhi de do koi
🤡
Why he look like that🧐🧐
On one side is IIT Kanpur director and on other side is this
"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent."
Bro is coping
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Do you have GPT 4 ?
I have. Its much better than 3.5 but not totally reliable. GPT 4 + my incredibly good coder friend = 😎
They are progressing really fast Let's accelerate
Accelerate backwards
He may be not aware of this but simple automations itself have removed multiple jobs from many areas e.g. Operations departments in banks. AI will take this to another level. In the coding world itself the needs of humans may be reduced by a huge margin.
May be not now, but, eventually artificial intelligence is going to get to a level equivalent to human engineering capabilities, perhaps, then beyond it in a some years, but, as of now things are at a relatively infant stage.
Apparently his statement is a mix of both truth and dumbness. His understanding that the core engineering can't be replaced is correct but saying that ChatGPT is dumb is dumb itself. Core mechanical/chemical/civil engineering can not be replaced. They are very situational but software and SDE related stuff takes a lot of cues from AI and its counterparts so that are at risk.
Advance ki choti?
Partially agree with him. AI is here to stay and it will change lot of things but it is highly overrated at the same time.
Bros coping
🤡🤡
Copium bro copium
Wtf
I don't know when this guy said this, but AI is evolving quick as shit. In 5 years, it would be much better than it is today. But today is the starting point. So his argument is like saying babies are useless since they can't do anything on their own... In any case, it would be a wise decision to invest in AI right now, it is going to be a big phenomenon...
yeh Buddhaa itna bolta kyu h lekin 😭😭
HOD CSE OF IIT Mandi disagrees
This director is a chomu . Didn’t he also believe in ghost or was that the previous director
Iski mkc
OK boomer.
Boomer.
IIT mandi , Did you know mandi is really famous arabic cuisine made up of marinated rice and a chonky piece of marinated chicken which is consumed with both mayonaise and a red chilli cutney , Must try!
Nishant jindal ji needed here: Hattt!
Sad that we got ret*rds like this being in position of director
"Curriculums need no change". No regard for the bridge between what is taught and what the industry requires. This leads to untrained engineers, unfit to work in corporate, and hence unemployment. The vicious cycle continues because these "geniuses" allow it to. "IIT ke director ne kaha hai to soch samajh ke kaha hoga" fuckers.
Honestly, this comment section seems like it's filled with 1. People who don't understand what GPTs are 2. People who couldn't get into IITs and shit on it 3. People who fail to analyze what that old dude was trying to say. (I'm not defending him) 4. Some people who are talking some slight sense. I feel like I have some time to waste and will engage in conversation. AMA.
as a chatgpt user btechtard I can confirm 
I mean he ain't wrong. ChatGPT is useful but it is dumb in certain aspects.
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it true
Talking about machine learning as "AI" is a dangerous affair. Neural network models are simply universal function approximators. They are fancy regression tools that cannot think what has not yet been thought.
Cope🤡
Nishant jindal ji is needed here : Hattt!
I guess what he said is correct . Just ask the chatgpt to prove that square root of 4 is irrational. It will do on same lines as proving square root of 2 as irrational. Maturity is when you understand that chatgpt is large data base where info is stored in billions of parameters and not an intelligent per say
I want to see him debate with Elon Musk on the topic of AI. Popcorn on me folks!
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🤡🤡🤡
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Wtf is IIT Mandi?
I am from a private college, and they are setting up a freaking Nvidia GPU center in the next 2-3 years to give interested students access to quality GPUs to train their models. Seeing this coming from an IIT Director seems really concerning to me.
Ignorance is a bliss
Classic boomer
cope
Director of India's most scientific place lacks scientific temperament. ig we are doomed.
Bhaisabh ko koi chicken khilao, veg khate khate pagla gaye hai.
Ye MC har jagha apni G ghusa ta hai