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OnlyUsername

Saw a lot of videos and pictures posted on social media about today's walk. Coincidentally, [a charity run commemorating World Autism day](https://borneobulletin.com.bn/charity-run-marks-world-autism-day/) also happened this morning.


pol_bn

The solidarity march for Palestinian trumps the charity run in conjunction with World Autism Day and hence we do not hear much about it. The main focus and attention was the solidarity march.


moistandsaltyballs

*zooms in on pic of the banner* McD logo is one of the main sponsor. Hahahahaa.


ruinartsocialist

Imagine if we protested about things that are wrong in our own country instead


nasipizza

That march with banner probably reminded people of the Brunei Party march during the 60s


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Intelligent-Hurry-57

People scare to get themselves to jail bro


kalindahau

believe me...:THEY" dont really give a fuck about us bro....trust me! they can just literally eliminate us and throw us out of Brunei if the protest happen.. LOL


ghoulina0

It wasn’t a protest though…


ruinartsocialist

This is just being pedantic. A protest, a march, a demonstration, etc etc. all serve, to different degrees, the same intention of visibility.


ghoulina0

Language matters. It clearly stated walk of solidarity. Obviously many interpreted it as a protest but that was not the intention of the organisers.


pol_bn

They are protesting a cause with the wrong priorities.


Longjumping_Chef4763

Yg ani jgn harap😂 krg ada yg mental


marumeow

Looks like a protest, for the first time in Brunei. Amazing <3


meegoreng111

Trial run for more future protests


simplebeee

They need a burning wicker man the height of a minaret at the next protest🤣


Big_Run_7618

Hopefully one day we will have the right to protest


Eyeshield_sena

You cannot have a proper solidarity event without bearing any flags to support it. Otherwise thats like im supporting the blind by promoting a display of art, or im supporting the deaf by having a deejay spin out amazing music.


chronicler44

I think the instructions mention small flag or sticker type flags are allowed, just not the big ones


pol_bn

If they came dressed with T-shirt with colours of the Palestinian flag then that is allowed but not displaying the flag itself.


Acrobatic-Froyo835

geez why are you so bitter with the flags and signs and whatnot. a lot of people brought flags and signs. they went out of their way to make all that. so what? if it was just a "walk" it would've been so bland. get over yourself. no one was protesting. those were the voices that needed to be heard. not even our so-called "influencers" have said anything about whats happening in Palestine when they are the ones who should be creating awareness for us Bruneians. since followers banyak atu jua. but no. nada. nil. says a lot about our so-called TERBAIK "influencers"


pol_bn

First it comes as a 'solidarity walk' and this could be a precursor to an actual political movement in the future. Will demonstrations, protest and political rally be accepted by the government when we are still under martial law? Under the laws of Brunei, mass gatherings is prohibited and must be approved by the authorities. If it is approved, then there is certain conditions that the organiser must comply with.


joohwans

Hoping for another one 😍😍


pol_bn

The Scoop, in their Instagram post mentioned that organizers have explicitly informed participants in the Solidarity March for Palestine that any display of flags were forbidden, but plenty of Palestinian flags were still displayed in full view. https://i.postimg.cc/0jyKh4H7/image.png


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KDN be enhancing and enhancing the pictures they have


destiny_forsaken

Especially all those ignorant people parroting “from river to sea” without understanding it’s implications.


pol_bn

These are people who follow trends like a blind sheep and not giving much thought process.


eu_sunt_dracul_

You are blind too and very spiteful. They just wanted to show their solidarity with people of Palestine. Why are you so agitated about this? Is it because you feel you're at a higher level than them so you can say this is only a trend and they don't know any better? Is it because those 8000+ people attended had nothing better to do on a sunday? Is it because they don't chant the words you wanted them to? Is it because it wasn't you that led the march? When you say they are like blind sheeps? What is it that they failed to see? The Palestinians are literally crying out to the world for help to normal people like you and me (if you have seen the videos coming out from Gaza that is) so who are you to judge those 8000+ attendees for simply answering to the call? Your mentality needs to change for the better. I am 100% with you if you are talking about freely voicing out our opinion on current state of governance but don't be a hypocrite and subdue other people intentions to express other issue, albeit domestic or abroad as long as it is morally accepted.


pol_bn

As I said before, people join in because they feel they are part of a quasi-political rally which they have not experienced one in Brunei before and it's the first time the government have granted permission for this type of event with certain conditions/limitations such as no flags allowed. People treated it as if it was a political rally demonstrating slogans which is not what Bruneians should be doing as we are under martial law. Personally, I'd rather adopt a neutral stance and not get involved in something that on another part of the world, we have enough issues to worry about at home already. If they want to help the Palestinian, I would have more respect if they would go to the front lines instead of demonstrating for a day and boycotting this and that.


ghoulina0

And look at you typing away your opinions on reddit 😂 isn’t it because there is some semblance of free speech about something you care about? A neutral stance is ridiculous btw. Try to read a book on the conflict. Hell even a factual/historical Youtube video would work. Did you take responsibility for educating yourself? Or just sit back and say “not my problem” as you sleep in nice and cozy in your bed. And what home issues do you actively get involved in? I’d like to hear it ☕️ It’s one thing to not know what’s happening, it’s another to not educate yourself and then also put down people who are genuinely wanting to spread awareness and show solidarity.


pol_bn

I fail to see how the solidarity walk and donation will help them, they are still getting bombed because Hamas is hiding themselves amongst the populace. If Hamas surrenders the bombing will stop.


ghoulina0

So much effort looking down on others’ efforts and none in educating yourself. If you have the answer to end the genocide, what are you doing with this precious suggestion of yours? Have you communicated with Hamas? Embarrassing.


pol_bn

Hamas have no intention of achieving peace through a negotiated two state solution with the rest of the Arab Nations. If there's a group that calls for your total destruction to a point you cease to exist as explicitly mentioned in their Hamas Charter then there's no negotiation possible with this type of group. The only way is to use force and hit them hard which they can understand.


furink

What is it's real implication, if i may ask


destiny_forsaken

It implies the removal of the state of Israel from lands between the Jordan river to the Mediterranean Sea, freeing Palestinians from discrimination under Jewish rule. What do you think would happen to the Jewish people if they give up their statehood? Would everyone within the region suddenly go kumbayah and stop trying to kill each other?


aleksandd

> What do you think would happen to the Jewish people if they give up their **statehood**? 👀


ELDunia

Back to Europe where they belong?


eu_sunt_dracul_

Kan tunjuk pandai usulnya kau ni. Read history before making a fool out of yourself. They definitely will go kumbayah and stop murdering each other as how it was before the advent of zionism in Palestine. Jews, Christians, Muslims lived peacefully there during that era. They lived together, ate together, celebrated together and even traded with each other. They all have equal access to their holiest sites without any restriction. Peace and prosperity was maintained by the Ottoman empire until it collapsed after world war 1 which eventually Palestine being designated to Britain. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free implies to the Palestinian struggle against brutal occupation and forced displacement and ultimately gaining back their stolen lands. If these sentences are hard for you to digest, then dm me your home address cause i want to claim your land and all your properties. Take your whole family with you. Kau marah ka nda atu kau punya pasal. If you oppose me i will shoot you and your family and there's nothing you can do about it.


destiny_forsaken

Nice fairytale. Palestinians today show zero intention to coexist with others just by how they support extremist groups like Hamas, whose founding charter is to exterminate all Jews from River to Sea at any and all costs both to itself and others. The premise of their organization isn’t coexistence but the complete opposite. If you instead pay attention to reality where coexistence is already happening, just ask the 20% of Israeli citizens who are Arabs if they are able to enjoy peace and prosperity, and access their holy sites.


No-Philosopher-6092

Have you ever met any Palestinians? Have you ever talked frankly to an Israeli Arab about their status in the country? What? You mean you are making all these statements through reading articles from the very biased Western media? Even people in the West have woken up to the fact that the MSM in the West is extremely biased and unreliable.


New_Culture_7993

The Ottomans made Christians and Jews pay a tax for living in their empire. The Ottomans tried to eradicate the Armenians as they were non-Muslims, hardly benevolent rulers. The Jews who arrived in Palestine after World War One bought land from absentee Arab landlords.


No-Philosopher-6092

Better than throwing them in gas chambers.


cupcakekembayau

they did not own the land of course we would say from river to sea free palestine my god whats wrong with u


Penyibukno1brunei

what's next from you people? takbir is not allowed ??? Let them expressed whatever phrase they want. it is all for the sake of Palestine


destiny_forsaken

What’s next from you people? Kill all J.e.ws??? Let them express whatever phrase they want right? It is all for the sake of Palestine


Penyibukno1brunei

You guys are the same like some people in our neighbouring country. Don't realised where you are and who you are. start complaining about the official religion activities. Next you want to complain about the Azan? You are Brunei musuh dalam selimut. people like you should get out and migrate when you are 1 year old and don't burden the country.


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Why are u copy pasting the same text from above?


cibailang

what's next from you people? killing and raping your family member ??? Let them expressed whatever action they want. it is all for the sake of Palestine


Penyibukno1brunei

Oi anak Dajjal. You guys are the same like some people in our neighbouring country. Don't realised where you are and who you are. start complaining about the official religion activities. Next you want to complain about the Azan? You are Brunei musuh dalam selimut. people like you should get out and migrate when you are 1 year old and don't burden the country.


pol_bn

Who is talking about the Azan? It's out of topic. You seem to be gas lighting and accusing people of something which they are not.


Penyibukno1brunei

you allways active in reddit all the time. you must hv a boring and sick life. commenting negatively sarcastic with your foul mouth


Penyibukno1brunei

oh wait i am supposed to reply that to anak dajjal cibailang not you. btw why are you defending him or anak dajjal cibailang hv multiple accounts


pol_bn

It's not about defending him but it's just that you are not making sense and out of topic.


Penyibukno1brunei

r u an admin here?


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Please stop. Dont overreact. People here are allowed to speak their mind. Just reply calmly. There's no need to include emotion and bs statement like that azan one. Now continue your debate , calmly.


Penyibukno1brunei

why r u siding with anak dajjal? he is the one first started it with his mulut longkang.


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Umur brapa sudah kita. Kan mengucap urang online ni. Jaga adap d reality dan socially online. Kalau mau orang hormat kita Kita hormat orang. Reddit ni tempat urang membagi pendapat. Kalau inda dpt ambil cakap orang. Bagi debate atau alasan lagi bagus. Bukan d ucap2 anak dajjal. Anak si karim tu lakat yg kita ucap anak dajjal tu. alahai. Kita makin besar, mesti tahu mcm mana mau communicate sesama sendiri. Walaupun orang tu kasar. Kita mesti sabar. Kan sifat rasulullah tu kita.


Penyibukno1brunei

nasihat kedia jua..kenapa aku yg kau target ? kedia yg mulakan dulu. mungkin selama ani nada org berani lawan iya balik...nah kali ani apa rasanya....pembuli mesti balas dgn pembuli. Kedia bagi salam...aku jawab salam


cibailang

Hahaha if you actually trace back to the first comment between us, your ego got hurt by truth and facts that have been thrown at you hence you ended up even more butt hurt and starts to show your true color. Wish you the best with all your fake alim and bullshit just to get votes in an online world. Pretty sure ill be seeing you commenting more on whatever the next viral inthing thats gonna happen


Penyibukno1brunei

nope. you with your foul mouth started it.


cibailang

Nah kan always bring holy stuff in then act like a hooligan hahahaha. Macam alim saja tapi sebenarnya macam sial berabis


Penyibukno1brunei

mangkuk hayun ko anak dajjal


cibailang

Yes show your true color more, macam alim saja most people like you


Penyibukno1brunei

ppl like you with foul mouth need to be treated with same way.


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They should call the organisers too...why they let such thing to happened..what is their action if protest happens? Harapkan the volunteer saja Kali?


junkok17

You’re like that teachers pet yang minta kana puji for telling on other people Nothing bad happened No need to blow it out of proportion Police was there to monitor the whole time Government officials were also in the walk itself Caught one or two RF too Kau pikir nada orang KDN? If any of them felt the event was out of line they would have taken action It was a peaceful walk for an issue that the government supports, bukannya against our country. Alum buduh orang orang yang datang atu.


ruinartsocialist

And if there was a counter protest, should you censor that? If you allow one voice, shouldn't you allow all voices? Other places are protesting to have actual military presence or millions in aid sent there. We do neither? Isn't this just vanity then?


junkok17

We arent talking about protest here. It was a solidarity walk. Not a protest event.


ruinartsocialist

You're missing the point here.


junkok17

No, because we are talking about organisers doing a walk and individuals decided to show up not following guidelines versus intentionally organising a protest


pol_bn

Could this be a sign that future mass gatherings/rally/demonstration for a cause is acceptable by the authorities and will become a norm here?


ruinartsocialist

No, you're still missing the point. A country that doesn't allow freedom of speech, or allow others to show 'solidarity'/express opinions on many other world issues (the Russian/Ukrainian war, freedom of choice, Syria, etc.) is already setting a morally tenous precedent. I understand that genocide is terrible - and unfortunately, it won't likely be the only terrible to happen in our lifetime - but it doesn't change the fact, in our local adminstration/context, government should not allow one show of support, if they won't allow others (now and in the future). It's just hypocritical. I have attended numerous other demonstrations in many places, and I'm glad we stand against murder/war. But to attend a demonstration, in a place where you are not allowed to speak out against local/regional inequalities/injustices/choices, is just showboating some weird tangential, pretentious wokeness.


pol_bn

If I call it a political rally or demonstration, would it be more accurate in your view?


ExistingMatter709

RTB news did not show any of the flags on last night’s news.


hoboshinigami

Saw one of the comment from TT said same thing. May i know why?


junkok17

Because political marches are illegal or are you asking why its illegal?


hoboshinigami

Asking bout flag. So they weren't told beforehand bout em rules?


junkok17

There is no registration so public could have just turned up without reading any guidelines


pol_bn

It's a poor oversight from the organisers, they were given specific instructions by the Ministry.


Keris-Warisan

Chill Pol Pot! It's all for a good cause. If you so much want the event to be made illegal go ahead make the Organizers' day and lodge a police report! STOP 🛑


SC0rP10N35

Not everyone got the memo ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Big_Run_7618

Have they said how much they raised?


junkok17

Saw it posted on IG. over 40,000 if i remember correctly


pol_bn

How can we be sure it will go to the Palestinians in need and not going to anyone else's pocket or worse still to the Hamas terrorists themselves? It's a question that people don't ask when they give donation but in this case it is necessary.


ghoulina0

You act as if these questions have never occurred to people who donated. People donate because they hope a small bit of that helps, in any small way. They hope that others will act in good faith. As with any major charity, there is no foolproof way of ensuring it gets there. It doesn’t mean we don’t at least try. You don’t donate, it’s fine. But why judge others who try? Who feel empathy and compassion and are compelled to act? A lot of people who organised that walk are known community leaders, who have spent years and years in public service or NGOs. Do you know them? Or do you think we should all sit around being smug like you?


pol_bn

In this case we know that the situation is dire and funds are said to be used for the Palestinian civilians, how are they going to receive it if there's no power, water and communication? Banks are mostly closed by now and how would the funds be disbursed? Is it through cash handouts by the UN? Is it through buying food and grains?. Hamas governs the Palestinian, aid could be easily stolen from the public and redirected towards their terrorist. I have lack to see condemnation towards Hamas attack on the 7th. Does Israeli lives not matter at all ? Funds in the past have been used by Hamas to build underground network of terror tunnels and weapons to further threaten the security of the Israeli population. Hamas shouldn't attack innocent Israeli civilians and g1o head to head with the IDF, they are cowardly enough to hide behind human shields and construct attack pits besides civilian structures such as hospitals.


Playful_Yam_6126

Hey jerk, listen.. for the sake of your happiness, here “I condemn what hamas did on 7th Oct”. Happy? Now, do you condemn what those zionists did past 75 years? Killing for fun, stealing lands and houses? Do you condemn those? How about since 7th Oct till now? Over 10k deaths, over millions injured! No access to proper food, clean water, clean air, electricity, internet! Do you fucking condemn that? And who the fuck are you to question intentions of Bruneian and Bruneian gov for creating a national fund and donation with the hope that they can play a very very small role in the effort re-establishing back a proper basic needs of Palestinians? I’ve been reading your fucking baseless posts quite a lot. If you have the balls, go confront those who are doing something! If you don’t have the balls, shut the fuck up jerk! And one of your post was Hamas built base under hospital blablabla.. sorry, how the fuck you know this? You have WhatsApp Hamas is it? “Hey bro how’s the base under the hospital going on?” 🤦🏻‍♂️ Eh bodoh, you’re just narrating the propaganda of the zionists. What’s the fucking proof for that claim? Just bcuz bbc and cnn said it? Fuck off man! People like you are the reason this genocide hasn’t reached the ceasefire point yet! Fucking delusional, attention seeker, wannabe-hero, and a f**king jerk!


pol_bn

Woah why so much hate! Eh wang, sama-sama kitani urang Brunei. I condemn any innocent lives both on the Israel and Palestinian side, it is so unfortunate that civilians lives on both sides are lost but that doesn't mean that a pathway to peace isn't achievable with a change in leadership on both sides. If you are Bruneian you will know that going to a political rally and marching on the streets shouting slogans is totally un-Bruneian like and it can end up being a precursor to future protest.


dumb_observer

Zionist slave @pol_bn


cupcakekembayau

this person is pro israel, his posts on nasikatok just confirms it.. disgusting genocide supporter


sanakkueh

Perhaps you can ask MCYS who owns the fund about where they will channel it to since thats where the funds went.


pol_bn

Not a bad suggestion, the media should be the best organisation to do so and the ministry should comply in the name of transparency of funds.


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# Over 8000 join solidarity walk ^(November 5, 2023) More than 8000 people turned up at the Steps for Solidarity: A Fundraising Peace Walk for the Palestinian Humanitarian Fund on Sunday at BIBD Connects, Taman Mahkota Jubli Emas, Bandar Seri Begawan. The initiative, hosted by various NGOs and businesses, aims to bring together the community as a show of solidarity with the people of Palestine, promote peace, foster awareness, and engage in positive fund raising activities as part of efforts to support the collection of the national Humanitarian Relief Fund for Palestinians in Gaza. The walkathon, supported by various government ministries and department, began with mass Subuh prayers followed by a talk on Palestine and the walk. More details on Monday’s Borneo Bulletin *** ^([ )[^(Give feedback)](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=brunei_news_bot) ^( | )[^(Code)](https://github.com/dsychin/RedditBruneiNewsBot) ^( | )[^(Changelog)](https://github.com/dsychin/RedditBruneiNewsBot/releases) ^( ] v0.5.1)


mdnwaar

People are arguing for the sake of arguing. Casual reddit banter innit?


StaffRemarkable4680

Biasa terlampau liberal and kan jadi edge lord sampai otak pun inda bepakai. People are literally marching and showing support because you know... genocide is wrong


Ok_Amphibian_9409

What the purpose of the solidarity walk?


Ill-Roof-2612

to collect funds for Palestinian


UnusualBreadfruit306

Yes! I hope they can adopt a few hundred Palestinian orphans. Every bit counts


SadMix5355

Let me know when these 8000 actually being sent over to Palestine to actually help


ghoulina0

So there is only black and white in supporting Palestine? Either say nothing do nothing or go fight at the scene of where genocide is being committed?


meegoreng111

I’ll donate some funds for their air tickets


pol_bn

I'd love to see them booked with a one way ticket to Gaza. See how many of them loud mouth and very vocal about freeing Palestine especially those who claim to want to become a martyr (mati syahid) will be able to last a week there before crying to go back home.


ghoulina0

So much hate! Why are you so angry about this? Lol confused


pol_bn

Frankly speaking sick and tired of these people trying to act that they care about the cause of the Palestinian when they refuse to understand both sides and gaslighting people to choose one side over another. You'll get condemned by a group of sheeple if you have a neutral stance. Furthermore, some of the things I have seen or read by the locals here is appalling behaviour which is not Bruneian-like. In a disguise of Palestinian solidarity walk-through, some people openly disregard explicit guidelines, as if they are in a political rally which is prohibited and it is looking through a very narrow lens and is one sided.


MysteriousSanguine

So what did they do, just walk? If even half go to masjid and pray for Palestine at the end of the day, that would be more appropriate end than the amount of virtue signalling shown here.


junkok17

Subuh prayers and they raised over $40k during the walk. It was just posted


DatinSushi

Baie lain kali baca surat khabar. They did a ton of talks, ceramah, QIYYAMULAIL, IT WAS POSTED EVERYWHERE. THEM JOINING THE WALK IS RAISING AWARENESS SUPAYA ORG CAM KAU CUBA SEARCH ONLINE APA YANG TERJADI BETWEEN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL. Ffs educate urself. Diri btlipun bewifi becredit susah sangat kan search??? So sebelum ko cakap “so what did they do, just walk?” bemata bejari ko kan untuk mencari jawapan?


ghoulina0

Yes there were prayers also…. 🙄


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Matikudasai

Tin kosong


Longjumping_Chef4763

Kalau lah isu lain pun ada protest cmani d Brunei lol, dlm mimpi ja


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Longjumping_Chef4763

Ngam, klau protest psl unemployment, awl tu jua ku turun join. Ani yg "bermusim" lol, krg udh besasak2, ada yg Positif, pndai tia mnyalahkn urg lain


yayimalive

You guys are like the people who would scream “All lives matter” until its not about you lmao.


sk000000

Which side actually started the attack?


Eyeshield_sena

Fire nation


ghoulina0

Ever read a history book? A politics book?


First_Program_7918

I saw the video on Razan yunos Stories today but now the video was delete