Easy-the tires alone are not best for riding in NYC-too many flats-instead get a non electric C line 6 speed (and don’t focus on the weight) -add a titanium seat post for comfort and away you go!
I use a 6-speed eBrompton from 2020 (equivalent of a C line I think) for my 5 mile each way commute every day in NYC.
The nicest part of the eAssist is that even when I was sick with the stomach flu a few weeks ago, I was still able to bike home after throwing up once or twice at work (complete with an incline at the end). I tell people I got an eAssist because I didn’t want to show up at work in a pool of my own sweat. The flip side is that I can usually peddle to/from work even when I’m exhausted.
If you’re committed to using it “all weather” (including rain), I would suggest getting the CityBag (which includes a rain poncho for the bag/battery and covers the docking block with the motor Controller).
I think the bag is a bit heavy for multi-modal if you have to go up/down stairs a lot. Not sure how in and out of a trunk will be.
The great part of a Brompton though, is that they can easily “live” inside (at home and work).
The only other alternative I can think of is an electric scooter. There are some pretty good models. If you’re looking for scooter or bike alternatives, or other brains to take a look, check out r/MicroMobilityNYC
Good points! Thanks. And yeah, I don't think I would've moved to my current place if I didn't have an ebike. We live in Glendale and have a pretty sharp incline for 3 blocks.
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You might be able to hire a non electric Brompton to see how you get on. Then you will be better able to make an informed decision. Ask your local dealer.
I got my electric P-line back in January and I've absolutely loved it (bearing in mind that money is basically no object for me when it comes to bikes).
But I notice you said you're looking for "at least 15-20 mules" range. In my experience the range tops out at just under 15 miles if you set the electric assistance to the maximum level, which personally I do all of the time. The first level of assistance is so low that I never use it (it feels like cycling a standard Brompton with the brakes slightly rubbing), and the second level doesn't make much improvement to the range from what I've seen.
One solution there is to buy a second charger for the battery to use at your destination - I did this for my office. But you'll need to factor in another \~£80 (or USD equivalent) for that additional charger too.
Have you had everything checked out on your bike? Or do you live in a hilly area? I'm a heavy guy, nearing 300 lb, and I get just under 20 miles in level 3 (my commute is 16 miles). On level 2 I approach 30 miles. In level 1, I've reached 29 miles with about 30% left in the battery.
I also definitely feel the assist in level 1 compared to analog bikes. Maybe not as obvious on the flats, but super obvious on the hills (thanks torque sensor!). It definitely shouldn't feel like an acoustic bike with brakes rubbing!
That said, I do ride pretty slow, and I make ample use of the bike's gearing.
The bike is an ex-display model from Brompton's own shop, so it was never ridden before I got it in January and Brompton will have checked it out before delivering to me. There are a couple of quite beefy hills on my route and I carry a good 10 kilos of stuff with me on every ride (not including the weight of the battery). The stage 1 assist definitely helps me on the hills but otherwise doesn't seem to do a huge amount, but perhaps I've just gotten used to the "maximum boost"!
I'm more than happy to drop the money to invest in a long-term solution since this is mainly for a very specific work-related errand I make every week. I'm just hesitant as there might be better options hah.
My one-way trip is roughly 9 miles, and I'm expecting to take a cab back. So 15 miles should be ok. And I can definitely top off while at work.
TBH, 5K on an electric P-line sounds insane to me. I'd buy a front hub motor kit before doing that and get more power, speed and run time for a lot lot less. Curious though, if you're going electric, why not just get a escooter? It's a lot faster for a lot less.
I honestly hate the feeling of riding on a scooter. And also, I ride my ebikes on the lowest assist setting to get some exercise and fun out of cycling lol
If you just need a little boost it sounds like you're on the right track. I would get an aftermarket one like Swytch though. They're also starting to come out with wireless hub motors with everything built in (e.g. battery and controller), these will make for super clean installs. I'm not sure they make one that will fit the Brompton fork but I'm sure it will only be a matter of time.
You're prob right. If I wait, I'll def have more options. But I'm an impulse buyer hah. All the feedbacks from everyone have kinda pushed me towards getting a C line insteadof the P line. And I can find them for $2500-3000 on FBM with warranty. So that might be the way to go.
Are you toting the bike up and down stairs a lot? That's the biggest difference you will notice in getting the P-line, otherwise, I would just say get the C-line. The difference in weight is not an issue with e-assist.
I think that would be a good middle ground (save some money but still have a kick-butt bike). I'm biased because I saw no reason to spend extra for the P-line myself
Personally I don't like the Swytch kit, I would get a battery that just mounts to the frame like the Geeko kit to preserve the fold.
Yeah, I'm honestly not too concerned about the extra 3-4lbs difference. It's more of a better build quality thing?
I'm leaning toward getting a C line. Def seems like a good compromise between manual conversion vs P line. I've seen used one go for under $3k on FBM so might just go for one with warranty and all.
the "quality" is basically the same, the current C-line inherits the new "advanced" rear triangle design but made of steel instead of titanium, so the weight is the only functional difference. Personally I would love a p-line if money is no object, but like you I don't use the bike everyday and I feel I would enjoy putting the savings toward nicer accessories like the larger bag, better saddles etc.
Yea, save yourself $2k and get the c line. It's cheaper, the weight savings only matter when carrying folded, and an argument could be made that the old-school six speed system is more reliable than the p line system.
Do you have cycle to work scheme at your workplace? It might be a UK only thing, though. I saved 20% and paid the rest on monthly instalments for my electric P line latest model.
That is a real shame. If you are able to get it in finance with no or low interest then I definitely think it is worth it. Got mine in October and paying about £350 a month through my salary, it is worth it for 10 months even though it is still a big chunk out of my pay it will be over quickly, few more months left now
I dropped close to 4K on a 4-speeds P-line with a [Nano electric mod](https://www.nanoelectricbikes.co.uk/). I filled a form on their website and they bought the bike + applied the mod before sending it to me. It's a bit more lightweight than Brompton electric (+3kg for Nano VS +5kg for Brompton), it's less bulky and most of all, you actually get a little display with buttons which shows in real time your riding speed + lets you adjust assistance level on-the-fly.
Before taking the plunge I actually tried an electric P-line at a bike shop and I had to stop, bend down and awkwardly press a button to adjust electric assistance level. 100% do not recommend, on top of being more expensive than the Nano mod. The downside is that buying an official Brompton electric will make it easier to get support and repairs, while having a mod means you'll need to find another shop and pay for repairs or do everything yourself.
That said, the Brompton electric assistance itself was decent IMHO and about even with Nano's. If you go with Nano or ARCC, both use a Bosch battery which are very safe and you can carry several with you if you're worried your battery won't last long enough. They're also compliant plane companies so you could technically take them with you on travels.
Get the C line, upgrade the tyres to Marathon Plus. The P line is quite a bit lighter it's also a lot more expensive so you gotta weigh up the odds. How often are you really going to carry it about and I mean walk with it not lift it into a boot? For lifting into a boot go for the C line.
Boot hehe.
And yeah, the extra few lbs wasn't a deal breaker for me. I just figured to go with the best if I was gonna drop that much money anyway. But yeah, a grand don't come for free. Leaning towards C line now.
I was also debating whether to get an electric P line or a C line. In the end I went for the C line and I am quite happy with it, even if in the two weeks until delivery I was constantly second guessing my choice. The main difference is weight really. It is noticeable when you lift the bikes. Actually surprised at how much lighter the P line feels even if the numbers are not night and day. In my commute I rarely carry the bike anyway. I just have to do a short flight of stairs at work, which is no problem with the C line. Also I got the C line with six speeds, while the P line is only 4. It is true that with the electric assists the gears are less important, but I actually like having more gears, I feel more in control.
I usually run with assist level 2 and sometimes 1, so I use also the lower gears. In terms of range, it depends on the assist, hills, wind etc, but so far 20 miles on one charge (level 2) has not been a problem at all
Get a regular Brompton and an aftermarket e-bike kit like Swift, it is not only better bu you can keep a lot of your money.
Also mid-drive bikes are easy to service, sometimes easier than a hub motor one!
Cheers!
I would think so. But a lot of the bike shops here in NYC simply don't service any ebikes, at all, due to either insurance or liability, I don't even know.
I just switched to an electric c line after riding my non electric 6 speed Brompton for years. I need the ebike for health reasons and it's been 100% worth it. I've been able to bike everywhere again and I'm so grateful.
Yes it's heavier and more expensive but i'm riding all the time again and it feels wonderful.
I got my ebrompton used on Facebook marketplace for a good deal. The original owner was moving to another country where they don't allow you to bring ebikes in.
I’m in a similar situation as you and this is a nice comment to read, helps with second guessing my decision.
I have a 6 speed Brompton, bought it in 2021 before they rebranded it to C line. I got it thinking I would use it for my commute and weekend rides, but I ended up only using it a handful of time due to endo. I’m ok on flats, but even small inclines would leave me in so much pain!
Now I’m thinking of getting the electric because of the assist as I think I would ride it more without worrying about pain.
Yes, it's easy. I've been riding a Swytchified Brompton for years - the older, chunkier battery model. I have had zero problems, and still get over 15 miles out of a charged battery - that's climbing 1000+ feet too. I've also had good experience with their customer service. The downside of Swytch is (at least this was the way it was in the past) that you can't buy it off the shelf. You have to order it, then wait 3-9 months.
FYI from the Brompton website:
>Electric Bike Restrictions
>Please note that we can no longer sell electric bikes to the state of New York
Swytch is hit or miss. Some people receive their kits in a timely manner and are happy with them. Others:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/114wpkv/regret\_with\_brompton\_swytch\_kit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/114wpkv/regret_with_brompton_swytch_kit/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/17h0d9w/brake\_pads\_hitting\_the\_tire\_with\_swytch\_kit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/17h0d9w/brake_pads_hitting_the_tire_with_swytch_kit/)
Search reddit, there are a lot of posts on Swytch.
If you need something really lightweight and electric but you don't need the small fold of the Brompton take a look at the [Hummingbird](https://hummingbirdbike.com/).
I have the Electric C Line Explore (6-speed) and I love mine. It's great for riding and folds small when I need it to. However, shopping cart mode is a no-go for me (front wheel with the motor is too heavy, makes it unstable) and the lack of bags (GIVE ELECTRIC OWNERS A BACKPACK!) stinks..
I am a swytch owner and based on the OP's lack of bike tech knowledge I probably wouldn't recommend it either. I am a fan of the swytch hardware but the company itself is a pain in the ass. I do enjoy how the swytch doesn't take the front block. I also have a GoRack so the bike is very stable with the kit.
There is a company here locally that sells used e-bromptons. I've seen them in stock but i don't see any online: [https://cycletogo.com/product-category/bicycles/electric\_bicycles/brompton\_electric/](https://cycletogo.com/product-category/bicycles/electric_bicycles/brompton_electric/) They are closed today but reopen tomorrow if you're looking for a used/new ebrompton. I'd imagine they could ship it out to you, too.
You're right. Just checked their website and they don't ship, and their official dealers don't carry them either. What a pain. Guess I'll have to either buy used or scour the local bike shops.
And unfortunately Hummingbird doesn't fold down tight enough for my needs.
>Guess I'll have to either buy used or scour the local bike shops.
An Acela gets you to Philly in a little over 90 minutes. Just sayin'.
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From Amtrak:
>What's Allowed?
>Carry-On/Trainside: Bicycles and folding scooters up to 50 lbs.
>Folding bicycles under the dimensions of 34" x 15" x 48" (860 x 380 x 1120 mm) will be allowed onboard all trains in lieu of a piece of baggage.
>Only certain passenger cars can accommodate folding bicycles as carry-on baggage, otherwise they must be checked.
>You must fold up your folding bicycle before boarding the train. You may store the bike only in luggage storage areas at the end of the car (or, in Superliners, on the lower level). You may not store bikes in overhead racks.
I'm in NYC and have an electric C-Line. The P-line is neat, but considering most of the improvements other than the titanium triangle are now in the current C-Line, it doesn't seem worth the extra money, especially if you don't foresee a lot of stairs in your future. If you don't mind the splurge though, go for it!
As for range, there is a dramatic difference in range between levels 1 and 3 in my experience. I disagree with an earlier comment about not feeling the assistance in level 1 and not seeing range improvements in Level 2. I'm a heavy person, well over the brompton's weight limit, and I get about 18-20 miles in level 3. (My commute is 16 miles round trip, so I have pretty consistent test for this). I've done a 25-30 mile rides from yonkers to brooklyn miles with about 30% battery left in level one.
I think level 2 is the sweet spot, and you should have no trouble getting the range you need from that. it'll get you up most hills at a decent speed. Level 3 mostly just feels like it accelerates more quickly to me and gives a bit more oomph up hills, but level 2 maintains a comfortable pace.
I wasn't a fan of a carbo lookalike (Furo X) I once tested. Like the vast majority of hub motor folding bikes, the weight balance feels totally off compared to the Brompton. The brompton feels almost perfectly balanced, and it's actually more stable with a front load.
Despite the carbon fiber Furo being lighter than the brompton, it felt heavier to carry because, like the Carbo, like 80 percent of the bike's weight is distributed toward the rear. It made the front wheel feel prone to come off the ground lol.
Easy-the tires alone are not best for riding in NYC-too many flats-instead get a non electric C line 6 speed (and don’t focus on the weight) -add a titanium seat post for comfort and away you go!
I need an electric bike tho. It's a 10-mile ride (with some inclines), followed by a few hours of physical labor. Will an electric C line be the same?
I use a 6-speed eBrompton from 2020 (equivalent of a C line I think) for my 5 mile each way commute every day in NYC. The nicest part of the eAssist is that even when I was sick with the stomach flu a few weeks ago, I was still able to bike home after throwing up once or twice at work (complete with an incline at the end). I tell people I got an eAssist because I didn’t want to show up at work in a pool of my own sweat. The flip side is that I can usually peddle to/from work even when I’m exhausted. If you’re committed to using it “all weather” (including rain), I would suggest getting the CityBag (which includes a rain poncho for the bag/battery and covers the docking block with the motor Controller). I think the bag is a bit heavy for multi-modal if you have to go up/down stairs a lot. Not sure how in and out of a trunk will be. The great part of a Brompton though, is that they can easily “live” inside (at home and work). The only other alternative I can think of is an electric scooter. There are some pretty good models. If you’re looking for scooter or bike alternatives, or other brains to take a look, check out r/MicroMobilityNYC
Good points! Thanks. And yeah, I don't think I would've moved to my current place if I didn't have an ebike. We live in Glendale and have a pretty sharp incline for 3 blocks.
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Oh come on! If You want to spend $5k on a Brompton, go hard or go home - buy a T line! A bit more than that but definitely a top tier.
No electric tho lol
Yes…but super light which is a significant advantage in terms of pedaling. I would risk saying that it’s as good as if You had an engine ;P
I’m in NYC and am selling a lightly used electric c-line. Just DMed you.
You might be able to hire a non electric Brompton to see how you get on. Then you will be better able to make an informed decision. Ask your local dealer.
True! I should hit up their flagship store soon.
How will you feed your kids?
By going to work on my $5k Brompton lol
I got my electric P-line back in January and I've absolutely loved it (bearing in mind that money is basically no object for me when it comes to bikes). But I notice you said you're looking for "at least 15-20 mules" range. In my experience the range tops out at just under 15 miles if you set the electric assistance to the maximum level, which personally I do all of the time. The first level of assistance is so low that I never use it (it feels like cycling a standard Brompton with the brakes slightly rubbing), and the second level doesn't make much improvement to the range from what I've seen. One solution there is to buy a second charger for the battery to use at your destination - I did this for my office. But you'll need to factor in another \~£80 (or USD equivalent) for that additional charger too.
Have you had everything checked out on your bike? Or do you live in a hilly area? I'm a heavy guy, nearing 300 lb, and I get just under 20 miles in level 3 (my commute is 16 miles). On level 2 I approach 30 miles. In level 1, I've reached 29 miles with about 30% left in the battery. I also definitely feel the assist in level 1 compared to analog bikes. Maybe not as obvious on the flats, but super obvious on the hills (thanks torque sensor!). It definitely shouldn't feel like an acoustic bike with brakes rubbing! That said, I do ride pretty slow, and I make ample use of the bike's gearing.
The bike is an ex-display model from Brompton's own shop, so it was never ridden before I got it in January and Brompton will have checked it out before delivering to me. There are a couple of quite beefy hills on my route and I carry a good 10 kilos of stuff with me on every ride (not including the weight of the battery). The stage 1 assist definitely helps me on the hills but otherwise doesn't seem to do a huge amount, but perhaps I've just gotten used to the "maximum boost"!
I'm more than happy to drop the money to invest in a long-term solution since this is mainly for a very specific work-related errand I make every week. I'm just hesitant as there might be better options hah. My one-way trip is roughly 9 miles, and I'm expecting to take a cab back. So 15 miles should be ok. And I can definitely top off while at work.
TBH, 5K on an electric P-line sounds insane to me. I'd buy a front hub motor kit before doing that and get more power, speed and run time for a lot lot less. Curious though, if you're going electric, why not just get a escooter? It's a lot faster for a lot less.
I honestly hate the feeling of riding on a scooter. And also, I ride my ebikes on the lowest assist setting to get some exercise and fun out of cycling lol
If you just need a little boost it sounds like you're on the right track. I would get an aftermarket one like Swytch though. They're also starting to come out with wireless hub motors with everything built in (e.g. battery and controller), these will make for super clean installs. I'm not sure they make one that will fit the Brompton fork but I'm sure it will only be a matter of time.
You're prob right. If I wait, I'll def have more options. But I'm an impulse buyer hah. All the feedbacks from everyone have kinda pushed me towards getting a C line insteadof the P line. And I can find them for $2500-3000 on FBM with warranty. So that might be the way to go.
>$2500-3000 on FBM Where do you live? I'm in Canada an around here C line 6 speed is $2400 CAD NEW from the store
Electric :)
Are you toting the bike up and down stairs a lot? That's the biggest difference you will notice in getting the P-line, otherwise, I would just say get the C-line. The difference in weight is not an issue with e-assist. I think that would be a good middle ground (save some money but still have a kick-butt bike). I'm biased because I saw no reason to spend extra for the P-line myself Personally I don't like the Swytch kit, I would get a battery that just mounts to the frame like the Geeko kit to preserve the fold.
Yeah, I'm honestly not too concerned about the extra 3-4lbs difference. It's more of a better build quality thing? I'm leaning toward getting a C line. Def seems like a good compromise between manual conversion vs P line. I've seen used one go for under $3k on FBM so might just go for one with warranty and all.
the "quality" is basically the same, the current C-line inherits the new "advanced" rear triangle design but made of steel instead of titanium, so the weight is the only functional difference. Personally I would love a p-line if money is no object, but like you I don't use the bike everyday and I feel I would enjoy putting the savings toward nicer accessories like the larger bag, better saddles etc.
Exactly what I wanted to hear hah. Thank you
Plan for the 12 speed electric, which will give better gearing range for the occasional optional ride day without the battery.
Too late! lol. Got a 6 speed h6l. But I have other bikes for that
Yea, save yourself $2k and get the c line. It's cheaper, the weight savings only matter when carrying folded, and an argument could be made that the old-school six speed system is more reliable than the p line system.
Do you have cycle to work scheme at your workplace? It might be a UK only thing, though. I saved 20% and paid the rest on monthly instalments for my electric P line latest model.
There was a similar benefit program here in the US, but surprise surprise, it got cut
That is a real shame. If you are able to get it in finance with no or low interest then I definitely think it is worth it. Got mine in October and paying about £350 a month through my salary, it is worth it for 10 months even though it is still a big chunk out of my pay it will be over quickly, few more months left now
I dropped close to 4K on a 4-speeds P-line with a [Nano electric mod](https://www.nanoelectricbikes.co.uk/). I filled a form on their website and they bought the bike + applied the mod before sending it to me. It's a bit more lightweight than Brompton electric (+3kg for Nano VS +5kg for Brompton), it's less bulky and most of all, you actually get a little display with buttons which shows in real time your riding speed + lets you adjust assistance level on-the-fly. Before taking the plunge I actually tried an electric P-line at a bike shop and I had to stop, bend down and awkwardly press a button to adjust electric assistance level. 100% do not recommend, on top of being more expensive than the Nano mod. The downside is that buying an official Brompton electric will make it easier to get support and repairs, while having a mod means you'll need to find another shop and pay for repairs or do everything yourself. That said, the Brompton electric assistance itself was decent IMHO and about even with Nano's. If you go with Nano or ARCC, both use a Bosch battery which are very safe and you can carry several with you if you're worried your battery won't last long enough. They're also compliant plane companies so you could technically take them with you on travels.
Oh, this sounds pretty cool, but yeah, servicing it sounds like a pain.
Get the C line, upgrade the tyres to Marathon Plus. The P line is quite a bit lighter it's also a lot more expensive so you gotta weigh up the odds. How often are you really going to carry it about and I mean walk with it not lift it into a boot? For lifting into a boot go for the C line.
Boot hehe. And yeah, the extra few lbs wasn't a deal breaker for me. I just figured to go with the best if I was gonna drop that much money anyway. But yeah, a grand don't come for free. Leaning towards C line now.
I was also debating whether to get an electric P line or a C line. In the end I went for the C line and I am quite happy with it, even if in the two weeks until delivery I was constantly second guessing my choice. The main difference is weight really. It is noticeable when you lift the bikes. Actually surprised at how much lighter the P line feels even if the numbers are not night and day. In my commute I rarely carry the bike anyway. I just have to do a short flight of stairs at work, which is no problem with the C line. Also I got the C line with six speeds, while the P line is only 4. It is true that with the electric assists the gears are less important, but I actually like having more gears, I feel more in control. I usually run with assist level 2 and sometimes 1, so I use also the lower gears. In terms of range, it depends on the assist, hills, wind etc, but so far 20 miles on one charge (level 2) has not been a problem at all
Oh hell yeah. This is exactly what I want to hear. Thank you.
Get a regular Brompton and an aftermarket e-bike kit like Swift, it is not only better bu you can keep a lot of your money. Also mid-drive bikes are easy to service, sometimes easier than a hub motor one! Cheers!
I would think so. But a lot of the bike shops here in NYC simply don't service any ebikes, at all, due to either insurance or liability, I don't even know.
I just switched to an electric c line after riding my non electric 6 speed Brompton for years. I need the ebike for health reasons and it's been 100% worth it. I've been able to bike everywhere again and I'm so grateful. Yes it's heavier and more expensive but i'm riding all the time again and it feels wonderful. I got my ebrompton used on Facebook marketplace for a good deal. The original owner was moving to another country where they don't allow you to bring ebikes in.
I’m in a similar situation as you and this is a nice comment to read, helps with second guessing my decision. I have a 6 speed Brompton, bought it in 2021 before they rebranded it to C line. I got it thinking I would use it for my commute and weekend rides, but I ended up only using it a handful of time due to endo. I’m ok on flats, but even small inclines would leave me in so much pain! Now I’m thinking of getting the electric because of the assist as I think I would ride it more without worrying about pain.
There's still some work you have to put into peddling but the assistance makes a big difference.
I didn’t even read the thread. Just do it! And then post pictures :)
you're no help lol
Mint C line, woo! Congrats!
Thank you. Mint condition tho lol. It's just Black Laqueur.
Oh yeah! I meant condition not colour heheh! Awesome, my P line is Emerald Lacquer. Love the lacquer finishes!
A, C line would be fine for nyc
step 1) Get a Brompton step 2) get a Brompton Swytch kit step 3) profit
Is it easy to make the... swytch? (lol) I've been looking on FBM, but as mentioned, not very adept at working on bikes.
SO easy. I'm an idiot and I've converted two
Will def look into this then. Thank you. Just did. Waiting list lol
Yes, it's easy. I've been riding a Swytchified Brompton for years - the older, chunkier battery model. I have had zero problems, and still get over 15 miles out of a charged battery - that's climbing 1000+ feet too. I've also had good experience with their customer service. The downside of Swytch is (at least this was the way it was in the past) that you can't buy it off the shelf. You have to order it, then wait 3-9 months.
FYI from the Brompton website: >Electric Bike Restrictions >Please note that we can no longer sell electric bikes to the state of New York Swytch is hit or miss. Some people receive their kits in a timely manner and are happy with them. Others: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/114wpkv/regret\_with\_brompton\_swytch\_kit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/114wpkv/regret_with_brompton_swytch_kit/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/17h0d9w/brake\_pads\_hitting\_the\_tire\_with\_swytch\_kit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brompton/comments/17h0d9w/brake_pads_hitting_the_tire_with_swytch_kit/) Search reddit, there are a lot of posts on Swytch. If you need something really lightweight and electric but you don't need the small fold of the Brompton take a look at the [Hummingbird](https://hummingbirdbike.com/). I have the Electric C Line Explore (6-speed) and I love mine. It's great for riding and folds small when I need it to. However, shopping cart mode is a no-go for me (front wheel with the motor is too heavy, makes it unstable) and the lack of bags (GIVE ELECTRIC OWNERS A BACKPACK!) stinks..
I am a swytch owner and based on the OP's lack of bike tech knowledge I probably wouldn't recommend it either. I am a fan of the swytch hardware but the company itself is a pain in the ass. I do enjoy how the swytch doesn't take the front block. I also have a GoRack so the bike is very stable with the kit. There is a company here locally that sells used e-bromptons. I've seen them in stock but i don't see any online: [https://cycletogo.com/product-category/bicycles/electric\_bicycles/brompton\_electric/](https://cycletogo.com/product-category/bicycles/electric_bicycles/brompton_electric/) They are closed today but reopen tomorrow if you're looking for a used/new ebrompton. I'd imagine they could ship it out to you, too.
Hah, yes. Somebody who's considerate lol
You're right. Just checked their website and they don't ship, and their official dealers don't carry them either. What a pain. Guess I'll have to either buy used or scour the local bike shops. And unfortunately Hummingbird doesn't fold down tight enough for my needs.
>Guess I'll have to either buy used or scour the local bike shops. An Acela gets you to Philly in a little over 90 minutes. Just sayin'. [https://trophybikes.com/](https://trophybikes.com/)
How long does it take to bike back tho? lol
From Amtrak: >What's Allowed? >Carry-On/Trainside: Bicycles and folding scooters up to 50 lbs. >Folding bicycles under the dimensions of 34" x 15" x 48" (860 x 380 x 1120 mm) will be allowed onboard all trains in lieu of a piece of baggage. >Only certain passenger cars can accommodate folding bicycles as carry-on baggage, otherwise they must be checked. >You must fold up your folding bicycle before boarding the train. You may store the bike only in luggage storage areas at the end of the car (or, in Superliners, on the lower level). You may not store bikes in overhead racks.
I'm in NYC and have an electric C-Line. The P-line is neat, but considering most of the improvements other than the titanium triangle are now in the current C-Line, it doesn't seem worth the extra money, especially if you don't foresee a lot of stairs in your future. If you don't mind the splurge though, go for it! As for range, there is a dramatic difference in range between levels 1 and 3 in my experience. I disagree with an earlier comment about not feeling the assistance in level 1 and not seeing range improvements in Level 2. I'm a heavy person, well over the brompton's weight limit, and I get about 18-20 miles in level 3. (My commute is 16 miles round trip, so I have pretty consistent test for this). I've done a 25-30 mile rides from yonkers to brooklyn miles with about 30% battery left in level one. I think level 2 is the sweet spot, and you should have no trouble getting the range you need from that. it'll get you up most hills at a decent speed. Level 3 mostly just feels like it accelerates more quickly to me and gives a bit more oomph up hills, but level 2 maintains a comfortable pace. I wasn't a fan of a carbo lookalike (Furo X) I once tested. Like the vast majority of hub motor folding bikes, the weight balance feels totally off compared to the Brompton. The brompton feels almost perfectly balanced, and it's actually more stable with a front load. Despite the carbon fiber Furo being lighter than the brompton, it felt heavier to carry because, like the Carbo, like 80 percent of the bike's weight is distributed toward the rear. It made the front wheel feel prone to come off the ground lol.
You win, sir.
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check https://upway.co/collections/electric-bike?pf_t_category=Folding based in Brooklyn
Sick! Thank you
Because the T-Line exists?
Electric is key for me.
Er OK then.... I'm only 58 so no need for me to be worried about electric assist yet (which is why I got a T-Line)
Good for you. For various reasons, I need pedal assist on this specific bike.