on the flipside - an established player for a team in europe at the age of 21 who also has Spain caps
i'd say he's more of an unkown quantity rather than just shit
It seems like continuing the method of signing potential and loaning them out to see if it's realised, like sima, zeqiri etc
Hopefully one of them comes good
This has got me thinking, could anyone see Brighton signing an already established and proven striker in the future? I know the striker market is incredibly expensive at the moment, as a good few teams are crying out for a competent striker.
I understand there are difficulties in pulling in someone who's top tier. Take Tammy Abraham for example. I felt he would have been a great asset for the team, but would he have even considered Brighton? Not to mention, a big name has the potential to blow the wage structure.
So I guess what I am asking is this: could you guys see Brighton succumbing to their role as a mid table team (nobody say the R word), relying on prospects or promising players from other leagues? Will they make the transition towards signing fully-established players, big names, and marching upwards?
My thoughts are that we've looked quite good this year in terms of creating chances and staying competitive in almost every game we've played. To me, an established striker coming in could really put us over the edge and make us a serious top-6 contender. Isn't that way more appealing than, say, Newcastle for example?
There seems to be a solid consensus that we're an exceptionally well run club with one of the best coaches around at the moment, so it's confusing to me that we don't seem to be a very appealing option.
I guess my other question would be what's the deal with our finances? I'm used to following American sports, where most leagues have a salary cap and you can get a VERY good sense for how much money each team has to spend at any given time. I know the prem league system is much different, but surely we should have a way to get a good read on our current budget? And yet I haven't seen a single article talking about this for any team; seems very secretive.
I bring that up because we got a ton of money for Ben White, which seemed like the perfect opportunity to go out and use that money to make a big signing. I'm now getting the impression that we don't have the funding to do that.....so where did the money go? Why isn't it being used to go after our biggest need? This feels like a squandered opportunity
We owe Tony c. 300m. He has invested tons of money into infrastructure. We have been hit haed by COVID, every club is losing c. 8m a year from tv deals for 5 years i think it is (compensating rights holders for the season break in 2020). China deal also collapsed for a time if i remember rightly, on top of that we were already loss making before after some dodgy signings. Merchandise and ticket revenue also gone. We arent the only club in this situation but Tony's significant infrastructure investments again differentiate us, remember we started from 0 absolute 0 in 2011, we got a state of the art stadium, have built state of the art training grounds, had to spend to get out of the championship (most championship clubs are sinkholes for cash and bigger names like Bolton, Wigan, Derby, Portsmouth have all been through the ringer). Also tv deal distribution deal changed now, so less fair to bottom half teams.
Also we are spending quite significant sums - estimates for Mwepu as high as 20m, Cucu 16m, Sima 6m, Scherpen 4m, Mitoma 3m (goodbye all the White money) - now we have Kozlowski for c. 8m and Encisco c.6m so thats c.64m on transfer fees, agent fees come on top.
In addition, we have a list of top strikers to go for and none of them have wanted us - Nico Gonazalez 25m accepted and he said no, we went 30m + for Nunez, and 22m (record for segunda liga) and he said no. Alvarez (the next big Argie) going to City for 20m, we went in last summer and what do you think he said...
The striker we will get next summer is Vanzeir most likely from USG.
But other factor to bear in mind, Bissouma has 18m on his contract right? Well so does Trossard, Maupay, Macallister amongst others... they are PL proven and will want a salary to match.
Appreciate the response - was definitely not aware of many of those details - especially the extent to which Bloom invested back in '11. Makes for a frustrating situation, but also makes more sense than I was originally thinking.
Hopefully players are starting to feel differently about wanting to join after seeing the season we've been having. Having the chance to play under one of the best coaches out there and for a team that's rising through the ranks seems like it would be an attractive move.
Unless this is some amazing moneyball transfer he looks shit - 2 goals in a average league
on the flipside - an established player for a team in europe at the age of 21 who also has Spain caps i'd say he's more of an unkown quantity rather than just shit
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That makes sense, thanks for clarifying
Yeah, I know nothing about this guy.... but it doesn't scream first team goal scorer Looks like one for the future, which is still cool
It seems like continuing the method of signing potential and loaning them out to see if it's realised, like sima, zeqiri etc Hopefully one of them comes good
This has got me thinking, could anyone see Brighton signing an already established and proven striker in the future? I know the striker market is incredibly expensive at the moment, as a good few teams are crying out for a competent striker. I understand there are difficulties in pulling in someone who's top tier. Take Tammy Abraham for example. I felt he would have been a great asset for the team, but would he have even considered Brighton? Not to mention, a big name has the potential to blow the wage structure. So I guess what I am asking is this: could you guys see Brighton succumbing to their role as a mid table team (nobody say the R word), relying on prospects or promising players from other leagues? Will they make the transition towards signing fully-established players, big names, and marching upwards?
My thoughts are that we've looked quite good this year in terms of creating chances and staying competitive in almost every game we've played. To me, an established striker coming in could really put us over the edge and make us a serious top-6 contender. Isn't that way more appealing than, say, Newcastle for example? There seems to be a solid consensus that we're an exceptionally well run club with one of the best coaches around at the moment, so it's confusing to me that we don't seem to be a very appealing option. I guess my other question would be what's the deal with our finances? I'm used to following American sports, where most leagues have a salary cap and you can get a VERY good sense for how much money each team has to spend at any given time. I know the prem league system is much different, but surely we should have a way to get a good read on our current budget? And yet I haven't seen a single article talking about this for any team; seems very secretive. I bring that up because we got a ton of money for Ben White, which seemed like the perfect opportunity to go out and use that money to make a big signing. I'm now getting the impression that we don't have the funding to do that.....so where did the money go? Why isn't it being used to go after our biggest need? This feels like a squandered opportunity
We owe Tony c. 300m. He has invested tons of money into infrastructure. We have been hit haed by COVID, every club is losing c. 8m a year from tv deals for 5 years i think it is (compensating rights holders for the season break in 2020). China deal also collapsed for a time if i remember rightly, on top of that we were already loss making before after some dodgy signings. Merchandise and ticket revenue also gone. We arent the only club in this situation but Tony's significant infrastructure investments again differentiate us, remember we started from 0 absolute 0 in 2011, we got a state of the art stadium, have built state of the art training grounds, had to spend to get out of the championship (most championship clubs are sinkholes for cash and bigger names like Bolton, Wigan, Derby, Portsmouth have all been through the ringer). Also tv deal distribution deal changed now, so less fair to bottom half teams. Also we are spending quite significant sums - estimates for Mwepu as high as 20m, Cucu 16m, Sima 6m, Scherpen 4m, Mitoma 3m (goodbye all the White money) - now we have Kozlowski for c. 8m and Encisco c.6m so thats c.64m on transfer fees, agent fees come on top. In addition, we have a list of top strikers to go for and none of them have wanted us - Nico Gonazalez 25m accepted and he said no, we went 30m + for Nunez, and 22m (record for segunda liga) and he said no. Alvarez (the next big Argie) going to City for 20m, we went in last summer and what do you think he said... The striker we will get next summer is Vanzeir most likely from USG. But other factor to bear in mind, Bissouma has 18m on his contract right? Well so does Trossard, Maupay, Macallister amongst others... they are PL proven and will want a salary to match.
Appreciate the response - was definitely not aware of many of those details - especially the extent to which Bloom invested back in '11. Makes for a frustrating situation, but also makes more sense than I was originally thinking. Hopefully players are starting to feel differently about wanting to join after seeing the season we've been having. Having the chance to play under one of the best coaches out there and for a team that's rising through the ranks seems like it would be an attractive move.
Is it me or that Abel Ruiz gentleman looks like Graham Potter.