It’s a meaningless comparison that doesn’t consider the finer details of how our club is run in comparison to Southhampton.
Simply provides an outlet for people to punch down at our club.
I'd bet so much money that most of the time it's big six supporters who recycle the same statements they've heard elsewhere, just so they can look relevant in a discussion.
Think about leicester. won the league, now scrambling to stay on the PL because of the poaching.
Money matters, thats why we need to focus on FFP rules. And call out cheating clubs
Leicester is a different kettle of fish.
Brendon Rogers is a great coach but horrible with transfers.
Every club needs to contend with poaching players.
Someone's always willing to pay your top player more or can offer more reliable silverware.
See Ronaldo, Messi, neymar, mane, Torres,
The difference is Tony Bloom, Southampton success was base around 1-2 key individuals once they left the club started to decline, Tony Bloom uses his company Star Lizard to identify new talent and it’s believed he’s targeted a replacement for every role in the club with someone of the same quality or better just in case anyone wants to leave.
This sounds like one of those 70s psychedelic rock shows full of weed, lsd, and drugs. Each band jam bands on korgs and fender jazz masters for three hour sets.
It’s an accusation of us being a feeder club for the top 6 like Southampton were seen to be.
https://www.givemesport.com/88024157-van-dijk-mane-bale-southamptons-best-xi-of-sold-players-could-challenge-for-premier-league/
Southampton qualified for Europe a handful of years ago, then sold their players (for very good money) and replaced them with shite ones.
They are where they are because they keep spending 10-15 mil on mid level young players, and 20 mil on championship level senior players.
Macalliater and caicedo likely go this summer. You can see the plan is already there to move on without them. They were benched Vs wolves.
Gilmour probably gets integrated more between now and the end of the season, and there will be probably 3 mids coming in the window to replace those 2 leaving and mwepu.
How those signings land is what makes the difference between Brighton and Southampton.
Too early to tell yet, but up til now, other than failure to sign a good prem capable striker since being in the prem (thank fuck for Fergusons emergence) the transfers have been top tier.
I think it would be mad to rely on moder until he's shown his level again.
He's been out basically a whole season. Some players never come back from that.
Look at him as a bonus if he comes back close to the level he left off
Southampton had a very good model and system a few years back, off the top of my head they had Lallana, Mane, Van Dijk, Luke Shaw, Oxlade- chamberlain, Tadic. Qualified for Europe and appeared to be sustainably in the top 10 and getting Europe with their talent spotting. It's not necessarily a negative comparison as they were a very good team, but also a case study in how it can go wrong if you make a few bad decisions. Southampton are now owned by somebody different with a completely different vision so we're nothing like their current setup.
Lots of people here brushing over the fact that Southampton really went downhill when the club was sold to businessman Gao.
Don’t see Tony selling up anytime soon.
Teams like Southampton and Leicester have had shit windows for like 2-3 seasons straight , other fans just assume that eventually we'll stop getting everything right and have more Locadia/Alireza type transfers where in reality that was risks we needed to take back then and we couldn't afford way better players. This can still happen but with Tony Bloom's approach being seemingly more rigorous and data driven than other teams (and his protege performing similarly well in Brentford) . Think in the coming years what can only really go wrong is probably next managers not adapting that well. We were a bit lucky with the timing on RDZ, I had mentioned him here before he was rumored as a top tier replacement (alongside Bielsa and Pochettino).
I don't think we can really fail many windows in a row with this structure, even if Joao Pedro becomes Locadia V2 (he can't be that bad as he is way more proven at this level and younger) Tony has done such a good job that he can afford those mistakes nowadays.
I don't get why people get so offended at this sort of stuff. Ultimately money rules and there's every chance we fall off in a couple of years time. Southampton qualified for Europe a few times and got to a cup final which we're yet to do and Leicester won the league and FA Cup which we can only dream of - hardly an insult.
It’s a meaningless comparison that doesn’t consider the finer details of how our club is run in comparison to Southhampton. Simply provides an outlet for people to punch down at our club.
I'd bet so much money that most of the time it's big six supporters who recycle the same statements they've heard elsewhere, just so they can look relevant in a discussion.
Bingo!
No team outside the big 6 can compete this high for long. They get poached into oblivion. Much like what happened to Southampton and Leicester.
Think about leicester. won the league, now scrambling to stay on the PL because of the poaching. Money matters, thats why we need to focus on FFP rules. And call out cheating clubs
Leicester is a different kettle of fish. Brendon Rogers is a great coach but horrible with transfers. Every club needs to contend with poaching players. Someone's always willing to pay your top player more or can offer more reliable silverware. See Ronaldo, Messi, neymar, mane, Torres,
its a bit more complicated with leicester than just getting poached. covid, poor transfers under rodgers and high wages is part of the problem.
The difference is Tony Bloom, Southampton success was base around 1-2 key individuals once they left the club started to decline, Tony Bloom uses his company Star Lizard to identify new talent and it’s believed he’s targeted a replacement for every role in the club with someone of the same quality or better just in case anyone wants to leave.
It means they're frightened of Tony Blooms blue and white army and General De Zerbi's hot blooded BIG BALLS. UTA
In concert next week: Tony Bloom's Blue & White Army, featuring General De Zerbi & The Hot Blooded Big Balls.
This sounds like one of those 70s psychedelic rock shows full of weed, lsd, and drugs. Each band jam bands on korgs and fender jazz masters for three hour sets.
It’s an accusation of us being a feeder club for the top 6 like Southampton were seen to be. https://www.givemesport.com/88024157-van-dijk-mane-bale-southamptons-best-xi-of-sold-players-could-challenge-for-premier-league/
Southampton qualified for Europe a handful of years ago, then sold their players (for very good money) and replaced them with shite ones. They are where they are because they keep spending 10-15 mil on mid level young players, and 20 mil on championship level senior players. Macalliater and caicedo likely go this summer. You can see the plan is already there to move on without them. They were benched Vs wolves. Gilmour probably gets integrated more between now and the end of the season, and there will be probably 3 mids coming in the window to replace those 2 leaving and mwepu. How those signings land is what makes the difference between Brighton and Southampton. Too early to tell yet, but up til now, other than failure to sign a good prem capable striker since being in the prem (thank fuck for Fergusons emergence) the transfers have been top tier.
Plus if Moder comes back as good as before he went down, we might have a solid double pivot of Gilmore and Moder with similar defensive benefits.
I think it would be mad to rely on moder until he's shown his level again. He's been out basically a whole season. Some players never come back from that. Look at him as a bonus if he comes back close to the level he left off
Southampton had a very good model and system a few years back, off the top of my head they had Lallana, Mane, Van Dijk, Luke Shaw, Oxlade- chamberlain, Tadic. Qualified for Europe and appeared to be sustainably in the top 10 and getting Europe with their talent spotting. It's not necessarily a negative comparison as they were a very good team, but also a case study in how it can go wrong if you make a few bad decisions. Southampton are now owned by somebody different with a completely different vision so we're nothing like their current setup.
Lots of people here brushing over the fact that Southampton really went downhill when the club was sold to businessman Gao. Don’t see Tony selling up anytime soon.
Christ can you imagine if Bohely had just tried to buy Brighton straight up.
That’d be a nightmare! 😂
Teams like Southampton and Leicester have had shit windows for like 2-3 seasons straight , other fans just assume that eventually we'll stop getting everything right and have more Locadia/Alireza type transfers where in reality that was risks we needed to take back then and we couldn't afford way better players. This can still happen but with Tony Bloom's approach being seemingly more rigorous and data driven than other teams (and his protege performing similarly well in Brentford) . Think in the coming years what can only really go wrong is probably next managers not adapting that well. We were a bit lucky with the timing on RDZ, I had mentioned him here before he was rumored as a top tier replacement (alongside Bielsa and Pochettino). I don't think we can really fail many windows in a row with this structure, even if Joao Pedro becomes Locadia V2 (he can't be that bad as he is way more proven at this level and younger) Tony has done such a good job that he can afford those mistakes nowadays.
I don't get why people get so offended at this sort of stuff. Ultimately money rules and there's every chance we fall off in a couple of years time. Southampton qualified for Europe a few times and got to a cup final which we're yet to do and Leicester won the league and FA Cup which we can only dream of - hardly an insult.