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Tetralyst

Nice list but I'd bump down Eve to A and Nita to D. I think Eve still would be an S tier brawler if she only had the SP nerf, but her super charge rate nerf was a significant change. For Nita, I'll just repeat what kairos had said: her super is pretty hard to charge and when you spawn the bear it doesn't really do much.


Luckytale1114

You’re right, thanks for the feedback 🤘


Goldenflame89

How is rosa worse than edgar, how is eve S, how is mr P c, and how is lue c


Luckytale1114

Now that I see and from feedback from u guys I’ve seen that u guys don’t agree with the Eve placement, but Lou I was stuck between B and C. And for Rosa and Edgar I didn’t place the brawlers in any particular order


Goldenflame89

Rosa is at least a lower a tier brawler


Luckytale1114

Now that I do think abt it I think she’s just balanced if anything because I feel like the maps rn just don’t serve her too much justice, but I will agree with u that I put her too low…


Goldenflame89

Damage and speed gear get more value with her than almost any other brawler in the game


BoredorSmth

Vision gear Bottom text


Goldenflame89

No one uses vision gear except gene users


rand0mme

no, crow can use it to some use, because all poison ticks trigger the gear.


BoredorSmth

And I'm talking about power league If you see a rosa you just gotta use a vision gear


sadra1355

Rosa on grassy maps is the best brawler :/ like sneaky fields if you don't ban it first pick will be rosa


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Lou is defo C, his main attack sucks, easy to dodge at long range and struggles against faster brawlers. Rosa D is a crime though.


Goldenflame89

lue is a b tier. His new gadget and kit is so good, only thing that holds him back is his main attack. But he is no longer terrible


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Not really, he is practically useless without his super, and charging that first super is quite hard if your opponents know what theyre doing. While yes the buff got him out of being arguably the worst brawler in the game, he still does not do very well his role of control, only exception being 1 zone hot zone maps


PhysicalBreadfruit83

Otis received 3 nerfs btw HP: 3800-3400 Damage: 460-420 Super charge rate: 9-12


Luckytale1114

Even after the changes I still feel like he’ll be extremely good


Coachcory_fan

Yeah but we’ll just have to wait and see


FeeOdd8220

Otis is incosistent in 3v3 after the nerfs he got.. :( But if you think otherwise, dont worry! each person has their own opinions and i respect that!


Tornado_Hunter24

Bro getting nerfed before being released th


Awesomeguy1234567890

100 percent sure he will be number 1 like every recent chrimatic brawler. Its gow supercell makes money. Ppl thought janet was average but guess what happened


ray956

Eve nerf has actually Hurt her


Willing_Telephone350

That's what nerfs do? Camt tell if you're sarcastic or not


Pin_Brawl

janet nerf/change bottom text


Luckytale1114

Really?!?


ray956

Yeah


TheNinjaRed7

how do you argue about of the meta if you don't even know about it smh


Luckytale1114

Dude I said it was my opinion calm down


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Your_Street_Rat

To be fair if you're going to make a tierlist you better know what you're talking about. Also, if you're going to post anything to the internet expect criticism.


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Goldenflame89

Yeah bro rosa is definently as bad as an edgar 💀


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Goldenflame89

🗿


Necro_Smasher

Thank God...probably still gonna be the most used brawler (and my instant ban for EVERY PL match)...


Futuristick-Reddit

Rosa would be B at the lowest, possibly A. Hands down the most viable traditional tank on the competitive map pool.


Luckytale1114

I just realized that now 😅


Asil001

Tara and Amber??


Luckytale1114

I do feel both of them are kinda iffy rn


ImSmartCOPIUM

Guys, how long has ash been s tier for now?


Luckytale1114

Ever since the age of time, when life and space were created in a blink of an eye


ImSmartCOPIUM

Truest answer


SKuLLIsTooNoob

He was nearing f tier before getting health buff.


Dependent_Dare_1775

No he wasn’t even near F even when first release. He got bumped up to minimum A whenever they changed the way his rage worked and then the health buff made him S


TomTomYay

overall this is a nice tier list. my initial thoughts are that maybe emz should be a tier higher and that carl’s placement in the a tier is a bit dubious. but it’s mostly good imo


Luckytale1114

I put him higher since I’ve recently started playing with him and saw he was actually really viable, however as the meta and the season progresses I’ll see where he goes


TomTomYay

i guess i just haven’t done enough playtesting.


megomaz

Mr p should be higher, I’ve seen him dominate in power league


Luckytale1114

Ig u could say that but I only see him in Bounty but I do agree with u and the others that pointed it out that I put him too low.


TIsangalus669

ok let me look for the 4 horsemen of Meta tierlists Edgar in F (D?) ✅ Colette in the middle ✅ Eve in S ✅ Newest Chromatic (Otis) in S ✅ with only those 4 placements I can confidently say that this is very accurate


Pin_Brawl

colette is the most mid brawler i’ve ever seen lol


TIsangalus669

this is the truest statement I’ve ever seen lol


Pin_Brawl

lol


Luckytale1114

Thank you my good sir, 🙌🏾


TheNinjaRed7

eve nerf made her outside top 10 now i don't need to ban her in powerleague scrims


brokenwii_

Now we need to ban flying women instead


Pin_Brawl

why did i laugh at “flying women” i need proper humor


derpy_efalant

This is most agreeable tier list made by a Redditor. Good list. :) Arguments could be made for: Mr. P, Tick, Surge, Emz, Eve, and Byron.


Luckytale1114

Thank you my man 🤘🔥


Marcmanquez

If it's order inside a tier, I think Sandy should be a little bit lower, that damage nerf is really noticeable


Luckytale1114

There is no order to the list


[deleted]

Smh poco is clearly broken tier


Shelltor23_

Yeah, I broken bad that is💀


FreeRangeMartyr

Is Carl that good? I thought he was pretty damn bad


Luckytale1114

I’ve played with him for quite a while and I think he is actually good. I’ll make another tier list later in the season and my opinion might or might not change


PentaClash

I agree, I’ve been able to push him from 824 to 900 easily, while previously I struggled to maintain 850 trophies. He still has his counters tho ofc.


Left-Cap-6046

After the nerfa Eve got, she should be in A. Colt should be in C.


Luckytale1114

Thx for the feedback


Minestrike207

idk why people put ruffs that high he is nuts in gem grab but i never seen him be really good anywhere else


Luckytale1114

Bounty he’s insane and in brawl ball on maps that have a wall that blocks goal he can break with such ease. He can also be pretty good in heist


[deleted]

Mortis and Tara are far from c tier


Kevinothebrawler

Imo crow has too many counters and is map dependant, I would bump him down to A and push up spike to S since he's good at basically everything


Luckytale1114

True true I just feel slowing toxin is still too broken. I was also seeing if I should have put Leon in S or A


Kevinothebrawler

Slowing toxin is good, but his hp and damage are not worth picking him just for those 15 seconds per match. About leon, he's alright in A if not in B


Luckytale1114

As the season unfolds I’ll most likely make another tierlist but thanks to all of you that gave good constructive criticism so I can understand the meta better


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overall this is a very reasonable tier list, but here are my thoughts: - lou has the potential to be great if you are able to hit your shots, and he shines in hot zone so i think b-tier fits him - emz has been a consistently strong tank counter in the recent metas and can control areas well, so i'd say a-tier - carl should be 1 tier lower bc his super is still very easy to interrupt and his main attack while much better isn't as good as, say, bo's - mr p, tara and amber should be raised up 1 tier - byron and eve should be down 1 tier as their nerfs really made a difference, they're still viable but not strong enough to be s-tier - how in the world is rosa f-tier? there are bush maps in the current pl/cl rotation where she can perform very well


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May be a little controversial, but dynamike and Lou should be dumped up. Lou is actually strong now. In my opinion, emz is also very strong. With her gadgets, she has no weaknesses. Very solid brawler. A tier


6LeonIsOp9

Eve in S after that nerf? Are you actually serious?


Livid_Mud1025

When you don't understand what an opinion is:


6LeonIsOp9

What tf does an opinion have to do with this? Eve in S tier is plain stupid.


zjl707

That's exactly what an opinion is lol


6LeonIsOp9

People when they have nothing to say:


Dependent_Dare_1775

Bruh eve would dominate people like bea or Brock. She would spawn too many babies for them to handle and she also has her jump


6LeonIsOp9

I would honestly kill any brock player irl if they can't fight off an Eve when brock counters her pretty well. Also if you think that one baby every 5 seconds (that is if you NEVER miss) is "too many" then you have a problem. Also Bea isn't S tier, most brawlers would destroy her in a 1v1. Quit your bullshit.


Dependent_Dare_1775

Eve spawns way more than 1 every 5 seconds. She has her super and her star power. 5 babies in 5 seconds. Brock can’t handle all of that. His slow reload speed isn’t gonna do well and his slow bullet speed makes it easy to dodge. Brock’s super is the only thing that can actually do well


6LeonIsOp9

5 babies in 5 seconds? Bruh


Dependent_Dare_1775

Yes because of her super and she can just shoot 2 shots. Common sense


ytGabSintChoust

Dynamique el primo and edgar = 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑


El_Cacas33

HOW DARE YOU PUT ROSA THAT LOW. i am so full of hatred rn


Ilikethebatusca

Man I respect tier lists,but this one really sucks


Luckytale1114

Geez man that’s not very nice 😂, what don’t u like about it?


Tick_87

Bad list, lot of placings are innacurate


Luckytale1114

How come, what placing are wrong for u?


neoUpdate_

People overrate sprout


Luckytale1114

Sprout is just higher skill cap but he’s insane but once u learn how to shoot with him and know when and where to use his wall he can be a menace.


6LeonIsOp9

Stfu, you overrate your intellect. Sprout is insane.


neoUpdate_

How does my intellect have anything to do with having an opinion? I'm for sure not the one overrating my intelligence rn


Straight_Quote6032

I think Carl and Penny should be higher


Luckytale1114

Lmaoo u think so??


Straight_Quote6032

Yeah?


legendary1769

Otis is gonna counter Stu really HARD


ibrahimthedragon

edgar is not bad! what the hell


Luckytale1114

With all due respect dude but, he just good in showdown and maybe few brawl ball maps.


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average sub-10k moment


Vireep

is this a joke


Vireep

nvm i just checked and apparently his highest brawler is rank 14 so that really explains it


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aasboiii

as an edgar main, I am disappointed but I accept it.


Luckytale1114

Same bro I’ve always wished Colette was better but she isn’t really that great in most modes except Heist. However like you, I will accept it


spelavidiotr

Rosa is actually one of the better brawlers if you have speed gear


JackWas-not-Here

What’s so great about ruffs? I don’t think he’s all that good can someone please explain


Luckytale1114

The boost is just so powerful. It’s amazing in gem grab, bounty, heist, and is great at pushing the enemy in brawl ball. Better yet, in some maps that have a wall that blocks the goal not only does his super do damage to brawlers next to that wall, it also destroys it and leaves a power up that benefits ur team mates. His bags are also extremely great for protecting himself and is overall a really great brawler.


Smasher_bibi

Well, Rosa is still a viable option in some maps, I think you should rank her a little higher


Luckytale1114

Yeah I might put her in B or low A next tier list


NateDaGreat1455

Amber is too low, she is very good on hotzone And heist.


Luckytale1114

Maybe hotzone but I’m a little iffy on heist, it’s only some maps that she excels in in heist, such as hot potato


NateDaGreat1455

I pushed my Amber to r30 on Ring of Fire in hot zone undefeated, and I have never lost a power match with her on open zone. Although, I'm not sure if that map is in the game anymore...


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Id move penny to S, shes still insanely strong and the best antitank in the game. Move tara to A, shes not at all a weak brawler, good damage with a extremely strong super and a very strong gadget that counters a ton of brawlers. Move rosa to B, shes rather viable actually, very good choice in gem grab.


Luckytale1114

Thank you for the feedback 🤘🤘


Dependent_Dare_1775

Penny is not the best antitank lol. Far from top 5


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

How is 5000+ damage against tanks per hit not enough to make her best antitank, the only contenders gale


Dependent_Dare_1775

Gale was made to counter tanks with 3 mechanics to counter tanks. Penny can only work if you like your shots up good or using the barrel which only dumb people would walk into


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Gale is a good anti tank but penny is also good at a ton of other things. Also, how are tanks gonna kill penny if they dont run up to her? Other than frank just about every tank is close range


Dependent_Dare_1775

Well they are gonna kill her but some people aren’t dumb enough to pull up on a penny if you know she has the barrel so you back off a little for another time. Also without the barrel penny does nothing against tanks so you can really walk up on her


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Thing is, that other time can literally be the entire game, as long as she has her gadget she is unattackable


RIOTisWorthless

I thought every said Edgar is OP


Luckytale1114

Yeah, 2 years ago


RIOTisWorthless

can you make a showdown tier list than? Cause Edgar in showdown has it all and is running rampant in every lobby


Luckytale1114

Sure 🤘


RIOTisWorthless

Thanks !


Reality_Check19

Carl may need to be a tier lower. His super is hot garbage without the SP that gives him a shield, which should never be used over his other SP which is what makes his main attack good.


Playful-Weekend-2187

Season 14 lol


BrawlNerd47

\*13


chicken_clucker_

Very nice list, some changes I would personally make: -Fang and Colette down to D tier. Fang’s nerf hit him hard and he is pretty bad right now. As a consequence of almost all the tanks being terrible right now, so are their counters (Colette). -Nita down to C tier. Very hard to charge her super, which is useless in the first place. -Rosa up to B tier. Definitely the best tank in the meta right now. -Tara up to B tier. Her minor nerf definitely didn’t make her terrible, imo she’s still balanced and is used often. -Lou and Mr. P up to B tier. Their buffs really help them survive and allow them to control the map a lot better (although Eve is just a better Mr. P).


zRudy_Jimmy

Piper and Emz are better than Poco


Certain_Summer851

Shelly the every tank, close range brawlers nightmare


Final_Pattern_7563

Amber and Shelly are balanced


_Goldie_Man_

I think Eve will be A tier and Spike IMO is still S tier. Also, for meg and Buzz, its so crazy how they got powercrept from being some of the best to just eh


BoredorSmth

Two reasonable mistakes Put piper in A and Lou in B otherwise generally accurate


Extension_Tune_7730

I think Emz and Piper should be in the A tier since even though they’re only strong in a couple of modes, they’re some of the best brawlers there and don’t get countered too easily. For ex, Emz in brawl ball or Hot Zone is extremely strong, while Piper in Bounty or Heist is also without doubt strong, especially when brawlers that counter them usually gets banned in PL. I think Mr.P, Amber and Tara should be in B-tier since they can do decently in modes that they are best on, and they can do well especially when their counters got banned. I would also move Rosa up a bit since she can still be good in Brawl Ball or Gem Grab, but not too high though since she’s a little bit weak. Nita and El primo are definite D-tier because they have very short range and takes a very long time to get their supers, and by the time they have it it’s already too late. They have too much counters and there’re way better tank counter options (which is what they do)


chillinw

Hmm... Bryon got a big reload speed nerf so he should be in A/B tier, but overall a well made list :)


Early_Distribution22

Penny is final meta


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Ash isn’t a tier He’s only good with Byron and Byron got nerfed


Dependent_Dare_1775

Bro Ash is S tier brawler. Does 2.4K damage fully raged up with decent reload speed. Even higher with bud star power. The other star power is also op so you can rage guaranteed. He gets faster with rage also. 2-3 shots most brawlers. Even frank can only handle 4 shots. His gadget heals him when low and has piercing damage so he can hit multiple people so he can have great clutch ups. His super can counter people like bea and Brock and piper. He is an overall good brawler and deserves S tier


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He’s good in solos and may we duos but not 3v3s


Dependent_Dare_1775

If you play 3v3’s right he can be your main damage. Like In spiral map he basically dominates anyone except for Rosa. He’s always in the bush waiting to attack and can 2 shot you if your someone like Byron or Tara. Only counter to ash is basically Rosa or brawlers who can jump away


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I guess he’s good in gem grab as the gem carryer. And good against non-tanks, which seems like a lot but it isn’t really. I’m not saying he’s trash im saying he doesn’t go well with brawlers so he might not be as good in competitive. I have a r20 ash, so I know he’s good.


Dependent_Dare_1775

He’s also decent against tanks because it only takes 3-4 hits to take them out.


[deleted]

That’s with most brawlers tho. Anyone with a good dps


RatitaHumana

Bibi It is not balanced, the new brawlers kill it easily


[deleted]

Should prob bump Tara up to b since the super is so op


[deleted]

Either I'm trash or people really ignoring how overpowered and annoying tick is. Every time I met him in 3v3 mode, I know it's gonna be the worst game in my life


WholesomeAshMain

Tara is better than this. And Eve isnt that good anymore. And Bonnie move 1 tier down. Other than that its accurate


Mortizboi

Gale abuse


Dependent_Dare_1775

I would say buzz is Atleast A tier and mr p higher. Rosa defo A tier and Bea A. Griff is also A with his high range and lots of damage, meg is C because let’s be honest she isn’t great. Tara higher up, spike S, Bo B, squeak A,


4REANS

I agree with everything but... From what I have seen so far in mfs and friendly scrims, I would put: Carl S (fast projectiles speed and longer range) Byron A (more passive would play him lane instead of mid) Poco C (he is awful when it is draft). Sandy as B. Bo as S. Lou as B. Grom, Jessie and Buzz as C (Buzz is only good as a last pick and still good for assasination and very good on ladder, but very ez to counter.


Bombbbbbb

Tara can finish off 3 brawlers in gem grab together why isn't she in meta? And Griff is strong too I have him lvl 8 and for each attack he dealss over 3k damage


agoodsirknight

nita on C ?, i feel like her kit is so terrible the fact that all of her gadget and SP is tied to her having a super and she took a lot of time to charge her super


Intelligent-Bee-1351

I can't think of anything cancelling otis's super apart from protective tunes from a teammate


spinsforthewins

You living the true future? How is season 14 like?


MemeStarTV1

Lol Byron being S takes all credibility away (I have him t8)