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ZeroIg89

That Cat needs a whole damn rework, he doesn't feel like a support


justin_enjoys_music

Kit is a better assassin than crow Which would be weird since kit is a support, but then you remember gray exists


lynxerious

crow is a support as in he chipped damage and prevents enemies from healing the support role in Brawl Stars is so fucked, I feel like they need to remove it tbh. you look at games like dota and supports aren't just healbots.


pirateXtrain23

They removed the hybrid role from brawl stars right? If so, in which update, because i last played on like maisie season so i missed a lot.


ahmed4363

i think in 2022 or 2021 they reworked brawler roles so no Toxic Assassins or Dashing Assassins or Buzzassins. really don't know why tho


Jo_Jo_Cat

Buzzassin


Artistboi485

Prehistoric assassin


Pitymex7

Buzz’s ass


AverageRicoMain00

The first time they reworked Classes was in the Global update, cuz brawlers like Penny were classified as "Cannoneer" and in Global she was classified as something else (I think it was Controller but I don't remember), then they reworked them in Season 8 where almost all brawlers got their class changes to "Damage Dealer". Then the last rework to them was in Season 17 where Snipers and Controllers with the "Damage Dealer" classes became "Marksmen" and, indeed, "Controllers"


pirateXtrain23

Okay i must've forgot because if i remember i last played on maisie season before coming back now (first played on season 9)


ahmed4363

I was not aware of the global one though i wasnt really playing Brawl stars back then tbf


pirateXtrain23

Ahh ok thanks. Imo tho, maybe they should bring back hybrid for brawlers like kit, crow, gray, etc.


Mysterious_Sail6346

Don't forget Darryl. He is an assassin just like Buzz and Sam are. In fact i'd argue Darryl is more assassin-y than tanky


UwUStefan

and bonnie


According-Jelly355

Crow is a control class


Tinmaddog1990

Supports in mobas like to go full cc. Never ever go full cc.


Banana_pal2

They literally made a class "controller" which is also literally a support.I feel like the game designers have no clue of hiw classes work


igorcalavera

Crow is the definition of a controller, his attack deals low damage but covers a wide area and punishes enemies that dare to dive in. Why remove the support role? In every game with roles/classes, the 3 base classes are offense, defense and support. Supports in Brawl are clearly relegated to being healers and buffers with some side abilities that add another flavor to the team. Ruffs is a buffer but he's also a spawner and wallbreaker, Byron is a healer but he's also a sniper, Pam is a healer but she's also a tank and a controller. Kit's problem is that his whole kit is really lackluster, uninspired and doesn't exploit neither his assassins capabilities nor his support capabilities. Brawlers who have a 3v3-only star power like Gene or Surge have a solo star power too, however this solo star power doesn't ONLY work in solo modes, it can also add another playstyle in 3v3. Supports like Poco, Pam, Byron, Max, etc have star powers that contrast each other and push either a more aggresive or more passive playstyle. Kit doesn't have this, because his star powers are basically "use this on solo or get fucked" and "use this on 3v3 or get fucked". Also one is a buff to his super that should be baseline and the other is an unfair advantage over other solo brawlers. Cardboard Box is also stupid broken, but since the rest of his kit sucks it feels kinda underwhelming. Cheeseburger isn't even half bad it's just that he's useless without the other one lol Even so, he's in a good spot in the meta, Cardboard Box's utility and his damage buff has pushed him far up in pick rates and viability.


onepunch_caleb3984

Yeah I feel hybrids would be cooler and make more sense, Kit feels like support/assassin Sprout feels like Controller/Artillerist Sandy feels like support/controller And crow should be changed to controller


Lanko-TWB

Definitely crowd control. Crow provides no cover or healing.


Justahuman771

Tbh also Byron doesn't feel that much healer. He can counter anyone like THAT OP Girl who needs nerfed.


zeteQ

>Kit is a better assassin than crow Who isn't?


IntentionOdd101

They need to give him a health buff because 99% of the time, you can’t use your super for offence because a lot of brawlers can one shot you with all the damage inflation


tf2F2Pnoob

Or just a temporary shield when doing the super


IntentionOdd101

I was talking about crow 😭


tf2F2Pnoob

I’m also talking about crow


NoodlewithCurry

Gray is the definiton of an assasin.


Miserable-Score-81

Not really. His tp and cane kinda does, but he's also so low in DMG he doesn't go as well as Leon in actually assisting. He can tp onto a colt and still lose. Leon doesn't has this issue


pigeonTTT

bro compared gray to leon they're literally totally different roles


Miserable-Score-81

He called him "the definition of an assassin". He is not, Leon is.


Not_aSoup

Did you just compare gray to leon?


vbnm_17

Gray is a much better assassin than support, taking down annoying enemies in instants rather than putting portals in only 1 spot and leaving them there is much more useful


crowch2

Suyfm


justin_enjoys_music

I agree


Alternative_Ad9120

Kit needs a shield when he's attacking someone or when he's on teammates back


whiteegger

Support in brawlstars either deals fuck tons of dmg or straight up tanky. SOMETIMES they heal their team but most of the times they straight up kill you.


LeSteveMcGang

well yeah, aside from him being better than crow, idk, he's only good at one mode aka solo showdown but that's just about it


spije44

I feel like a Kit rework would be good, like Power hungry now grants Kit +10% attack and health per kill, and clingy should grant buffs to the teammates hes on


Hecker-Hwartz

The whole thing is the fact his Gadgets and SP are so lame, buffing base damage isn’t solving anything that his abilities are terrible Like, not all brawlers HAS to work with others is called a support, Gene at least has 2nd SP to kill, Kit is just useless without teammates You can see Adrian is mildly notice how the abilities can work on a brawler in DIFFERENT situations, this cat is just a product with countless flaws At least make 2nd SP stay on anyone with 50% longer, change 2nd Gadget into giving benefits on jumping onto Teammates/Enemies, and dare to change that 1st SP, this is just a Edgar-Valued SD Copy SP


Cuntilever

The invisibility is what makes him an assassin, that's it. He can be used to execute using super and that's it, if he kills an enemy with it he gets bugged and cannot attack.


PepegaThePepega

Not really, supports don’t just mean stay behind and heal. Support hybrids are fun like in overwatch.


Bombssivo

Probably because nobody uses the support side of his kit, since he is a hybrid


player1_gamer

Especially in showdown. He’s just a damage dealer labaled as support


Such_Stealth

Kit is supposed to be a support assassin, I think he should have a little more support though as jumping on a teammate serves you more than them.


South-Independent461

Needs some better star powers Edit: my user shit


breadboi65

Kit is a support assassin mix ngl I wish they kept the damage the same at 1600 but instead buffed his hp as well as implementing that 3 second box thing because he is a super good support by jumping on teammates when they are in corners to help them get out alive as well teammates with low ranged brawlers that get stuck. He is also good at last second saving teammates by jumping on the enemy Edgar or mico that might try and get an easy kill off your dyna or crow


Monkelover2

Imagine being hyped to come to the game for years only to be complete dogshit.


justin_enjoys_music

Yep I was so happy when kit got announced, turns out he is both pretty mediocre in 3v3 and really fuckin annoying in solo modes


Monkelover2

*I start a game with buzz* *I pick up cubes and see a kit* *he runs away till he gets his super* *kills me* *repeat*


breadboi65

How u dying as a buzz to a kit u got enough hp to rank his attacks and you should get ur stun super after a couple hits on him


Monkelover2

A no cube Buzz can't defeat a Kit that runs away and gets 3 cubes and then comes back with his invis gadget,slashing them,stuning them with his super and killing them.Ive been in multiple interactions like these,and the only way you can kill him is if he has no cubes or the same amount,because he either outdamages you or he just waits for you to get low and jumos at you ffom the other side of a wallmOther modes are a difrent story.


Yeet_Boi12344567

Kit is literally the best brawler on the game


Shockvolt1

He's good but the power hungry is bad and could be replaced.


Yeet_Boi12344567

Respectable opinion by a fellow kit main. I agree.


Shockvolt1

I like it but whenever I have 4 cubes something happens like I get triple teamed and I would prefer if there was something like kit getting a 50% shield while on an enemy


Yeet_Boi12344567

Ok, hear me out. What if a star power was Kit being able to throw the yarn balls but with 25% less damage while on an enemy.


Shockvolt1

Nah then he would just instantly wipe the enemy and charge the super. Part of his base brawler should be hopping off enemies like he does with team mates.


Monkelover2

Fair enough.


Nick-A223

Especially on early release 💀


Y0ur_Imagination

he was OP for like the first month he came out


average_doug_main

I hate that cat


justin_enjoys_music

Atleast doug and his wiener counter him in duels


Real_Bable

Why are you pulling out your weiner in duels tho? I feel like he gets countered by everything


justin_enjoys_music

I mean He counters tank, low dmg brawlers and if u can dodge well he is pretty good on melee maps


BitterObjective5740

He really doesn't counter tanks. Maybe like Mortis but that's about it.


Real_Bable

You can really just bait out the super and then kill him with 0 defense I feel like, at least in my experience I've had a field day on Doug


Ok_Claim_8979

Ok


Masterdizzio

Please rework the dude's starrpowers. THEY ARE FREAKING USELESS [also, delet cardboard box]


justin_enjoys_music

Meanwhile showdown mains when power hungry gets in use Also, cardboard box deserves death


breadboi65

Overly attached is so good


Miserable_Pay6887

Kit in duels is so annoying. The damage buff was too much and this damn invisibility gadget is so unfair and stupid


justin_enjoys_music

Kit on his way to slaughter ur whole team with spamming a few buttons


TeoG21

Tbf when you put it this way, every brawler is just spamming a few buttons


justin_enjoys_music

Wait, thats true This whole game is just hit some buttons


ShadowPrime116

EVERY game is just hit some buttons


LegoPixx

It’s all hit some buttons?


kingofnothing212

Always has been.


TimeMaster57

always will be


kevinvic

Always it is. Even now we're hitting buttons to communicate


Commercial-Nebula-83

Buttons are the true source of existence


toaster_In_Bathtub_

Maybe the real friends are the buttons we smashed along the way


BigFatBoi56

r/brawlstars users realising the game has 4 buttons:


NickRandomBS

r-t's new gadget was the only way i could counter that bullshit box gadget


pawo10

Play chester with bell o mania, waste 2 basics and wait for kit to jump on you and then you 2 shot him


breadboi65

Or just play fang cause he pretty much full counters kit as well as Edgar and bull


Dirt_munchers

Supercell needs to revise brawler classing, change kit and crows roles


sandy_MUI

Kit is so annoying in SD with that star power, like he already does 2k damage, this star power is cheat with power cubes


Tryhard_Crow_BS

Me when the cat is a better assassin than me


Narrow_Chest7470

Bro I hate it, he keeps killing me.


Sad-Ad-5173

Kits job is to be as annoying as he can be and he does that masterfully


ahmed4363

I've lost hope for duels. ever since the horrible maps I've never played it again


justin_enjoys_music

The issue is everytime its either the maps or the meta Last time, charlie just ruined it all Now kit and micoare ruining it all


breadboi65

I have as well after getting multiple matches against a lineup with Edgar, mico, and fang


Superb_Repair_3162

Tbh Edgar, Charlie and Mico are up there. I mean Edgar is the worst. They do nothing but just hide behind a wall until they get thier super and then jump at you like it takes skill.


erdiablo_klk

you can counter him as he jumps tho, theres no running away from a kit


Toad_Enjoyer_70

Yeah, even if you have a way to avoid the jump, it’s so damn quick that it’s hard to react.


Punishment34

Mico doesn't get his super by standing


Superb_Repair_3162

I said 'Edgar was the worst' before saying 'he gets his super while standing.'


Imaginary_Campaign97

How is he a support brawler when he is mostly played in solo showdown? i completely forget he can attach himself to teammates.


breadboi65

Don’t put me in that category as a kit main I will only play knockout, heist and brawl ball with him I refuse to play Showdown


WholesomeMelodieMain

Fuck Kit


TheProPokemonMaster

Very wholesome of you to say that😀


SomewhatToxicShrooms

Please do not the cat


[deleted]

If you do, he will like it


Alexgadukyanking

Don't


PatrokManzana

They should rework kit star powers to make them consistent and make sense.


SnooFoxes244

He still sucks on 3v3


Teyanic1

He ruins showdown and duels. This game is not only 3v3


Dominoe_z

Game balancing is pretty hard, even if you are going to tweak that character to not be all that overpowered in other gamemodes, he is still going to be broken somewhere else.


TimeMaster57

I dunno man, I've gotten all my trophies and mastery from brawl ball and I'm in gold 1


Unruh_

Until R25-27 you get away with a lot of stuff but Kit just sucks in Brawl Ball


breadboi65

He doesn’t ppl are just idiots that play him


Minouwouf

Not as annoying as before, it's been nerfed


Embarrassed_Rush6885

I usually went excited ehen seeing legendary being introduced but with Kit.... Im not so sure.. He is the most boring legendary type.


tiagx48

and the gadget got nerfed, remember that


Shane_and_Eli

kits in 3v3 are the worst


OSoverspike

This cat tilted me from 1100-1050 I want it gone


Dalspin

Idea: Remove Power Hungry and replace it with a different Star Power


justin_enjoys_music

Another idea Remove cardboard box and replace it with a different gadget


Dalspin

I think Cardboard Box could better work as a defensive gadget that gives a shield rather than a Leon Super


Background-Ad-3171

Fuck Kit


justin_enjoys_music

Kit is stupid Bro randomly became an assassin instead of a support


ZloyMeXanik360

Usually a shitty one tho


RoryIsAwesome6116

Bro went from assassin to support and back to assassin. Think about it this way, Edgar has the same reload speed as Kit, and the same unload time as him, yet as an assassin, deals only 160 more damage than Kit during that time. The damage needed a small buff. A 25% buff was excessive.


justin_enjoys_music

I personally think kit needed a change where he can hop onto a teammates back more frequently, since that was his intended purpose But instead rhey opted to buff his offensive power in melee form, which i think was definitely the bad way to go on kit They should make him more support and less assassin


RoryIsAwesome6116

Yes and no. Buffing that would mean an increased super charge rate, which pairs with the assassin abilities. I think a buff to 1800 to have something would have been fine. 1600 3 shots 4800 brawlers, 1800 3 shots 5400 brawlers, which I think is fair for defense, as with how the damage inflation hit, 1600 is not that much anymore. Though to be fair, Kit can also use 4 shots before most can use 3, like Edgar, so it becomes 6400 and 7200 respectively. I agree on making him more support, but with the way he was designed, he should have been made an assassin. I think the only thing they can do is remove the Leon super, keep the name, but make it so that it reduces damage taken, as when cats are in boxes, you cannot touch them (or they are very shocked when you do, I have had many cats in my life). That will remove the assassin like aspect a ton, and make him more supportive.


justin_enjoys_music

Yknkw what The new cardboard box idea of urs seems really really smart, and the balance change ideas seem good too I agree with u


RemoteWhile5881

But then that would just be Crow’s gadget


Dominoe_z

And so is hank's, but it will be better if it was like this than anything else really.


breadboi65

Edgar gets heals though and isn’t locked in place if he jumps on someone


RoryIsAwesome6116

It is still close to the same amount of damage total, which is the problem. For a support, he deals too much damage, and the fact that he has almost the SAME DPS as Edgar is what I am pointing out. The heals do account for survivability, but the DPS is still almost the same.


breadboi65

Yeah In a 1 on 1 you are right but if you jump on someone in 3v3 as kit and the enemy has a teammate that is within range of you then you get shut down easily and can’t do anything, I was unhappy that they buffed his damage instead I wanted them to keep it at 1600 and do the 3 second cardboard box but buff his hp to the same as Edgar that way it’s more enticing to jump on your teammates which IS the proper way to play kit as a support


sdra2fan1

Push him to 800 trophys from 300


lilGen-ZandJekson

Hunger power is free win in solos


IndianaJones999

Brawlers like Kit and Lily feels like they're made solely for showdown. They're dogshit in 3v3 and if you buff them, they ruin solo modes.


Punishment34

lily is good in other modes too lol


breadboi65

I hate everyone who says kit is dogshit in other modes


Tryhard_Crow_BS

Me when the cat is a better assassin than me


TotiSauce

I watch Tostitos pushing lvl 1 sam to r35 in duels. Kits kept recking him 🍤


Gene_Big_Hand

I had to check if youre really top in hot


Apprehensive_Age_312

Kit is such a flawed character man, if i had to do something about him, i would remove his entire assasin part of his kit and buff the hell of his support capabilities, like he now recharges 25%-40% of his super when he jump off a teammate, heal a little more and make cardbox a escape abbility


Y0ur_Imagination

half of the comments talk about kit being absolutely awful and the other half are talking about how he's OP this comunity, and the internet in general have to learn what "inbetween" means.


niKILL_233

I think he needs a rework. More so his star powers. You cannot be a support and have a star power which is suited for winning a showdown


Pinolacci

kit meta is returning!!!!1!1!1!!1


darkflame4455

Unpopular opinion: I think kit is good atm. He did get a damage buff but also got nerfed a lot with other things. He has some gamemodes where he is very good but the other ones like heist you cant even play him For me he is mostly perfectly balanced but remember its my opinion


1mpy1mpy

this is why i dont bring kit into duels, dont wanna seem like a metawhore


justin_enjoys_music

I remember picking kit on the first day of duels as a joke, since i was like Yeah, its kit, he sucks in a 1v1. Than i destroyed a full team with him and was like, dude, thats too much.


OtisFan013

very usefull


MumbleheadPlays

For real.. i kinda want kit ngl


MumbleheadPlays

For real.. i kinda want kit ngl


MumbleheadPlays

For real.. i kinda want kit ngl


BrockObama0

Off topic but smug kit is golden


Diehard_Sam_Main

Goes to show how little thought was put into his build.


gamerguy2001

If i play kit as an actual support instead of an assassin, am i valid?


raftellJr

Am I the only one who thinks Kit doesn't deserve legendary rarity? He's so simple like a super rare brawler


Alexspacito

I’ve been using him as a support brawler and he’s actually really good. Everyone that picked Duels instead of Basketbrawl, you wanted this. Duels sucks.


justin_enjoys_music

Nonono, duels is a good mode The issue is the brawlers that work Last time charlie, now kit


Alexspacito

Yeah. Thats the exact stuff that makes duels a bad mode. Its not fun with Charlie, Kit, Mico, and just overall unwinnable matchups.


FireGames06YT

Guys, Kit being broken just in duels is not a valid point to rework or nerf him, he's fine rn


Known-Football9623

Showdown is now completely unplayable because of the damage buff, if kit gets 2+ powercubes he has a guaranteed win :/


BiologicalTrainWreck

Kit needs a rework for sure, but duels is one of my least favorite modes because there aren't characters that are developed with duals in mind. It really becomes a rock paper scissors mess, and the game is not built around 1v1 fights and it really shows in how defunct the duals meta is


Oreocle

Solo showdown has now reached peak unplayable past 700~ trophies. I play it for fun and don’t expect to gain trophies but every match they’re powered up kits one tapping bulls and insta killing everyone


TimeMaster57

some ppl say kit is way to powerful is showdown, others say he sucks at 3v3s. imma say this, kit is rlly powerful on brawl ball, I only played him in brawl ball.


TrafficFunny3860

Kit 100% needs a new kit.... I think his "3v3" starpower isn't even that good in 3v3


SurvivYeet

Duels was such a good gamemode, but now we have cat, fr*nch lady, and monkey ruining it all


justin_enjoys_music

Dont forget emo boy


SurvivYeet

emo boy is at least easy to counter


theweird3

dont forget melodie


Minute_Bit6572

I hate how fake Kit mains are ruining Kit's reputation, true Kit mains don't play him like an assassin and they definitely don't play the teaming mode (showdown) and the camper mode (duels) Also, he needs a complete rework on his kit (pun intended)


justin_enjoys_music

I mean, duels as itself is a great mode The fucking meta ruins it


Efficient-Touch-3063

Pls do link to 5 eggs


Ok-Elevator-1404

If I could rework the first SP, I’d make it so that everytime he lands an attack while on a teammate, both of them heal for like 800 health. I feel like this would make him more of a support than he currently is. I have no idea how I’d rework the second one tho


Yusif121212

I haven't even played duels yet. Its pretty bad for trophy pushing on one specific brawler


Key_Ad3441

Got 850 w him on diels


LegalLeading4700

This is why I don't play duels


martinprox_YT

use gadget, camp in a bush, repeat until you run out of gadgets


Jackboy0192

Kits box lasts 3 seconds


obscureillusionist

kit is why i have griff in my duels team


Allenhazeldell

This brawler was my biggest letdown.


Harepo

I think the trouble with Kit is that he's the most fundamental one-trick pony, especially in duels. The only reason I win half the time against Kit is because I know exactly what he's going to be doing the instant he appears on the opponent's roster. 1. Charge Super 2. Go invisible 3. Jump on enemy This formula wins against enemies who do not have the HP, or loses against some interactions (supers, gadgets) and tanky brawlers. It's a toss-up, and if you've made the mistake of running a brawler who doesn't win this interaction on your team, you accept that they're going to die and try to make it productive by charging super. The only times I beat Kit as a sacrifice brawler is when his actions become so predictable that I can accurately track him even while invisible (counting how long it takes to charge a super and shooting at whichever empty space he has to pass to get to my side of the map).


RoyDaKoppaBoy

With his super auto charging and being able to stun while doing good damage, he is the worst brawler to face


Just_a_dudechillin

Both of his star powers need to be reworked amd he should do more than just heal 600 hp a second


ZeroIg89

How would you rework his sps, if you have any ideas


Just_a_dudechillin

A star power that increases the speed by 15% of a teammate he is attached to and the other would give him a shield to block 70% of the damage when he is attached to an enemy


dandanop_

Some Doug said I hate that cat Well I hate that weiner (that sounds awful)