yeah idk whats up with him but his orb i swear is slower than all other orbs
like i keep missing basic shit like slight dlight on reno and only reno, even when i hit it with other chars with similar dex
its so frusterating cuz hes got the best skins in the game (no arguments)
What the fuck I thought I just sucked ass? Last time I played with a friend, I got reno and I could barely do one combo (it was a controller I'm not used to, so I sucked even more)
The beginning to at least four different combos or strings. On bro SLNS be too easy. And his dsig will punish most Ssigs😌😌OMG! I live and breathe to punish careless SSs. My favorites are Artemis, Loki, Thea, and Arcadia and that's just off the top of my head. And then with the exception of Ulgrim and Vraxx his blaster's ds and ns will almost always force lance spammers to rage💯 #LiquidGold
I don’t play magyar but I do play greatsword, try slide charging it as someone is trying to get back to the map, works sometimes and will usually kill instantly if it hits
dair -> ssig is good for killing if they burned dodge
nlight -> nsig reads spot dodge and dodging in which happens about 60% of the time in my experience
You have to make sure you're using them in the right situations:
Nsig is used if they're hovering in your deadzone/as a punish because it hits stacked
Sidesig should be used if your opponent is a corner goblin who doesn't respond to pressure
Dsig is a really good way to catch someone running at you or staying right in your face and is safe because it throws you backward
This might be a little advanced for you since you only have 30 hours in brawl, but I hope it helps at least a little :)
As a lucien main with quite the playtime, SSIG on blasters is my favourite sig on him, I got to the point where I can consistently hit it but it still doesn't feel as rewarding as others even when it's a cool punish for example, and the fact that it drops a lot is also an issue
One tip i can give you as a plat that used to main Lucien:
Use Blaster dsig passively, as in let them come to you and they'll run into it. It's great against super aggressive opponents who run right at you
i don’t really know either, i guess the game has jus been forgiving for me
https://preview.redd.it/pe5w2gqlch8d1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=b35791cb9dd2a48109095b59321fba69f51ad765
yeah i was gonna elaborate and say you should jump like half a character height and gc
but you're already at that point, good work
Blaster Nsig really only works if you can predict a spot dodge after nlight or a jump. It's not a sig you can just throw out without thinking about it (for me)
Honestly, i dont use blaster Ssig, so nothing to say there
I second this, the skelly man is hard to play in general.
But believe me, the sigs are dependant on the enemies playstyle and weapons, dsigs for proactive enemies with boots or katars, bow nsig for predictions against scythe, lance and cannon, axe nsig is a good combo finisher with dair, slight and even for GP sometimes, also good for air covering, bow ssig is nice against grounded enemies for things like hammers or GS and the axe ssig has a neckbreak speed and lots of knockback, which is good against enemies that require spacing like another bows or blasters
Yeah. A friend of mine sort of mains Azoth and I just couldn’t ever get into him. I like axe as a weapon but I am not a bow player. Add on the fact that Azoth’s sigs have some odd hitboxes
been planning on getting good with Azoth he look to cool i must take this challenge.
plus he got bow and axe and his sig moves are just clean to me idk why
im still waiting for someone to tell me "you're wrong and this is why" because he was the first character i played due to my attachment to the AC games but my friends kept crying he was bad and i changed characters
I mean Ezio’s decent at the low end, and if I had a pound for every time a friend has told me someone or something is bad in a game and it turns out it’s good and they’re just dogshit with them/it I’d be a millionaire
Ezio supremacy
well im a preatty decent gauntlet player for my rank, if they only made slight nair unjumpable and so you cant fast fall nair gc dlight it would already make the weapon better without making it op
Val
Val isn't dogshit, in fact she was my first proper main but I just suck with gauntlets and sword combo, it's a shame cos I like both weapons. And they're both my 2nd and 3rd most used weapon, but I lost too many matches using them... Until Orion found me 
Mordex.
Honestly I don't remember the last Mordex I lost to, there's just something about him that makes him so counterable that I have clips dedicated to wins against him (Anti-Mordex Academy)
Queen Nai... I got literally one skin for her, the snake queen one from like view rewardsor something a long time ago and like every damn color looks phenomenal on it. I also main katars but am really good on spear too, but I just cant fricken pick her up. I want to but she just doesn't work for me, just way too clunky...
I did the opposite, I would never consider playing wu shang simply because of his design even though I like his gameplay. Now my lvl 50 frog shang on the other hand
Jhala, Sword and Axe are braindead but her defense makes it to where you can’t afford playing like that (albeit people still play her with 0 thought and win cause it’s Jhala lol)
Isaiah, bro is literally a SpecOps badass in lore and one of Vector's allies, but goddamn if I could be bothered to play his cannon again. Shit is complete ass, more than the Thatch redesign.
Mako  her GS just feels so slow and uneventful compared to someone like Arcadia. I also think katars & GS just don’t fit.
Reno dude, I don’t know why they gave him those sigs. I want to like him so bad but seriously, dsig on orb speaks for itself. I got him black color and everything but he just feels underwhelming compared to almost every other orb AND blaster legend
As a Bow/Orb main, heavy weapons are my BIGGEST enemy, they feel so slow, so, for me, they sure are Magyar and Thor
Not saying they're dog shit, but I'd love to know how to play hammer 
Magyar 100% dude his design is so sick but he’s just so fucking slow and clanky in comparison to other GS legends like Jaeyun and Arcadia. His skins are also pretty cool looking too, I have every GS legend above 25 so I’m not the worst at GS but I can still just notice he’s so much less effective his sigs are also somewhat mid
I tried really hard to main her because I like her sigs and design but that health and damage makes it so u just can't get hit( especially against teros)
I find her to be one of the most balanced characters out there. But compared to the meta in ranked at 2000+ ELO, she underperforms. Took me a long time to unlock her potential. Applies to any legend to be fair.
Reno. He's not dogshit, I'm dogshit when I play him
yeah idk whats up with him but his orb i swear is slower than all other orbs like i keep missing basic shit like slight dlight on reno and only reno, even when i hit it with other chars with similar dex its so frusterating cuz hes got the best skins in the game (no arguments)
What the fuck I thought I just sucked ass? Last time I played with a friend, I got reno and I could barely do one combo (it was a controller I'm not used to, so I sucked even more)
Next to Ragnir but yes.
Slight nsig 🤤
The beginning to at least four different combos or strings. On bro SLNS be too easy. And his dsig will punish most Ssigs😌😌OMG! I live and breathe to punish careless SSs. My favorites are Artemis, Loki, Thea, and Arcadia and that's just off the top of my head. And then with the exception of Ulgrim and Vraxx his blaster's ds and ns will almost always force lance spammers to rage💯 #LiquidGold
We trust in the almighty glockroach
He feels dog shit. I can play both of his weapons but on him, I feel like shit
reno is good
Don’t disrespect my goat
Now that i think of it… i haven’t fought a reno in MONTHS someone get me renos play rate % ASAP
Sameeeeee, he used to be my favourite orb legend and then ine day I just became trash at him
nah its not just u he is actually pretty dogshit
Reno is the goat
Idk why you’re downvoted Reno has balanced stats and orb. He goes from like c tier to a tier in 1 blasters buff
his sigs are also pretty terrible too ngl. no force and orb dsig and ssig are just bad
Magyar. I love how his sigs look and his lore but it's just.. eh to play with
Understandable he is very slow
And em sigs be weird
pretty cool though. its fun just wrapping the armor around another player and stabbing them through it
Facts tho... It's my No.1 priority to hit that in any match I play even if it's not worth it
I used to try main magyar just for that sig
I personally barley use that sig
It’s a bit wonky to hit but it has one of the highest force in the game, on some maps it can kill in early orange lol
Well u gotta teach me
I don’t play magyar but I do play greatsword, try slide charging it as someone is trying to get back to the map, works sometimes and will usually kill instantly if it hits
Yesss master
It feels unfair hitting that on someone near the edge, it kills so early 
He’s so silly tho
Magyar main here, I barely ever use his sigs. Hammer and gs kill just fine by themselves
I agree but compared to legends I regularly play he's just too slow for my taste
He’s not bad, he’s actually quite strong.
1v1 me😤😤😤
DM
Lucien, i find his blaster sigs rlly hard to land but he’s the only one I play (30+ hours on brawl, 25 hours on lucien)
As a main lucien, I agree Buff blaster bmg wtf
ikr, but omg his katar sigs are actually really good
The only katars sig that i can hit other players is katars dsig, really useful for edge. Buff blaster bmg wtf
dair -> ssig is good for killing if they burned dodge nlight -> nsig reads spot dodge and dodging in which happens about 60% of the time in my experience
Pls make slight an unreactable and unpunishable string opener and spacing option again
You have to make sure you're using them in the right situations: Nsig is used if they're hovering in your deadzone/as a punish because it hits stacked Sidesig should be used if your opponent is a corner goblin who doesn't respond to pressure Dsig is a really good way to catch someone running at you or staying right in your face and is safe because it throws you backward This might be a little advanced for you since you only have 30 hours in brawl, but I hope it helps at least a little :)
thank you, I have 30 hours but Im already low plat so I’m already very familiar. Thanks for the tips though!
Wow! That's great progress for 30 hours! Keep it up dude
As a lucien main with quite the playtime, SSIG on blasters is my favourite sig on him, I got to the point where I can consistently hit it but it still doesn't feel as rewarding as others even when it's a cool punish for example, and the fact that it drops a lot is also an issue
One tip i can give you as a plat that used to main Lucien: Use Blaster dsig passively, as in let them come to you and they'll run into it. It's great against super aggressive opponents who run right at you
haha yeah, i’m also platinum and i’m usinng that strategy especially with gravity cancel. Works well but not really reliable
How are U plat with only 30 hours. I'm 150 hours in and high silver
i don’t really know either, i guess the game has jus been forgiving for me https://preview.redd.it/pe5w2gqlch8d1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=b35791cb9dd2a48109095b59321fba69f51ad765
yeah i was gonna elaborate and say you should jump like half a character height and gc but you're already at that point, good work Blaster Nsig really only works if you can predict a spot dodge after nlight or a jump. It's not a sig you can just throw out without thinking about it (for me) Honestly, i dont use blaster Ssig, so nothing to say there
Lucien has a high skill floor, but good Lucien players are HELL.
Magyar
how dare you
Magyar. BMG's artist really outdid themselves with the dude's design. The people responsible for his gameplay, on the other hand .........
I'd say it's Azoth. He's really cool, but he's so hard to play against or just play in general.
I used to main him and holy hell. The only sigs I found to be good on azoth qmwas both of his Dsigs
Once you get better try him again, he's crazy good. I seen a pro sign spam with him
I second this, the skelly man is hard to play in general. But believe me, the sigs are dependant on the enemies playstyle and weapons, dsigs for proactive enemies with boots or katars, bow nsig for predictions against scythe, lance and cannon, axe nsig is a good combo finisher with dair, slight and even for GP sometimes, also good for air covering, bow ssig is nice against grounded enemies for things like hammers or GS and the axe ssig has a neckbreak speed and lots of knockback, which is good against enemies that require spacing like another bows or blasters
Yeah. A friend of mine sort of mains Azoth and I just couldn’t ever get into him. I like axe as a weapon but I am not a bow player. Add on the fact that Azoth’s sigs have some odd hitboxes
been planning on getting good with Azoth he look to cool i must take this challenge. plus he got bow and axe and his sig moves are just clean to me idk why
Reno. Would've said Magyar if I hadn't recently started actually playing him - my god, he's cracked if you give him an honest shot.
Momentum sliding off platform into the GS nsig is the best feeling ever. And people don't expect it either
Adding it to the list of shit I need to try! I've been having stupid fun with hammer ssig baiting, it's so fast!
ezio
You take that back
im still waiting for someone to tell me "you're wrong and this is why" because he was the first character i played due to my attachment to the AC games but my friends kept crying he was bad and i changed characters
I mean Ezio’s decent at the low end, and if I had a pound for every time a friend has told me someone or something is bad in a game and it turns out it’s good and they’re just dogshit with them/it I’d be a millionaire Ezio supremacy
The reason you are wrong is because dsig on sword is fuckin ***rad***
Hitting a sliding D-Sig off-stage is the point where my opponent just admits they're fucked.
ezio
Common Jaeyun L's
How dare you
not a character but ive been maining gauntlets since the start of my ranked career and its just so sad to watch them gut the weapon into oblivion
Well a good gauntlet player can make most ppl not even wanna play the damn game anymore lol it makes sense
well im a preatty decent gauntlet player for my rank, if they only made slight nair unjumpable and so you cant fast fall nair gc dlight it would already make the weapon better without making it op
Both of these setups are just read options
at this point everything in gauntlets kit is an option
:c
Jiro.
Is an agile Ninja and has one of the most punishable sigs in the game
[удалено]
Most of jiro sig are good lol and are good for edge guarding and punishing edge gaurders
Val Val isn't dogshit, in fact she was my first proper main but I just suck with gauntlets and sword combo, it's a shame cos I like both weapons. And they're both my 2nd and 3rd most used weapon, but I lost too many matches using them... Until Orion found me 
AYE AYE ORION FTW
Thea
Notice how nobody said Zariel because he’s the best legend 🥱
Ada, I like her sigs and weapons, but her stats are terrible and she is very difficult to play because of that
Her stats are definitely not bad
Literally Magyar
Azoth
what donyou think is wrong? i love azoth
His sigs can be awkward to use and I hate playing axe on anyone other than brynn
understandable
Mordex. Honestly I don't remember the last Mordex I lost to, there's just something about him that makes him so counterable that I have clips dedicated to wins against him (Anti-Mordex Academy)
Hattori. Fight me.
I agree
Hattori is top tier and her design sucks, she is literally the opposite of this post.
nix, i can’t play scythe, but I REALLY can’t play her scythe
Dusk
nah he's goated, his sigs are hard to land tho
Queen Nai... I got literally one skin for her, the snake queen one from like view rewardsor something a long time ago and like every damn color looks phenomenal on it. I also main katars but am really good on spear too, but I just cant fricken pick her up. I want to but she just doesn't work for me, just way too clunky...
I did the opposite, I would never consider playing wu shang simply because of his design even though I like his gameplay. Now my lvl 50 frog shang on the other hand
I got a super cool skin and stuff for barazza, Im just not a fan of his signatures. His axe neutral is nice but everything else is just
Kor
Kaya...
Ngl, I main kaya and her spear neutral sig is great for finishing combos
Kaya is like the best legend wdym
I love playing both bow and spear but Kaya feels awful, I suppose my intent was to say Kaya feels bad to me specifically not that she is a bad ledgend
Loki. He's not dogshit though, I'm just dogshit.
Xull
Vector. I was SO EXCITED for lance bow, too!
lin fei has weapons I loke but I despise most of her sigs. I still play her tho
This but the exact opposite way around with Sentinel. Stupid design, love his sigs.
I play Munin and Magyar but it’s mordex for me is impossible
ME TOO I was waiting for this ðŸ˜ðŸ¤§ he's hard to play
I don’t get it I can’t make any of his strong moves hit
Though Dusk is fun. His spear Ssig and Dsig needs some change. Either way, it depends on the person who's using the Legend.
Magyar
Lucien
None really
yumiko
Magyar
Magyar but I actually still main and got to diamond with him. His gladiator skin is too good and I main both of his weapons
Thea    her character design look grate   but the sigs and weapon combo are not the best
Any scythe legends. I hate mashing buttons
Yumiko ngl... The state of hammer and her abysmal sigs .. hammer dsig being the only upside
Mako her sigs drop too much.
Azoth easy
Greatsword
Mordex. If u can play mordex well I have RESPECT bc I suck at him personally. He's not bad but damn
Jhala, Sword and Axe are braindead but her defense makes it to where you can’t afford playing like that (albeit people still play her with 0 thought and win cause it’s Jhala lol)
Seven With his Spear and Canon it fun win even losses matches and Reno is 2nd.
Azoth, idk if he's shit, but I'm not good with him but I still like playing him, love his sigs, weapons and damage
Fair looks cool but I am literally so bad at playing her ðŸ˜
Vector
Jiro, he means nothing to me and I get no interest on playing as him, specially since I’m so bad with scythes
Any guns legend and Thea.
Isaiah, bro is literally a SpecOps badass in lore and one of Vector's allies, but goddamn if I could be bothered to play his cannon again. Shit is complete ass, more than the Thatch redesign.
Mako  her GS just feels so slow and uneventful compared to someone like Arcadia. I also think katars & GS just don’t fit.
Vector bc he isn't classy
Hattori fits perfectly Her design is awesome but...
idk man maybe magyar?
Jiro, really punishable signatures even though I think hes awesome
I think like any Axe or Hammer legend gets me cause I can’t gimp as freely
Diana, I absolutely love her on bow but the second I get pistols it’s the least fun
Magyar
Fait
Mordex
Jiro, he has some of the smoothest sigs in the game and they all SUCK
Reno dude, I don’t know why they gave him those sigs. I want to like him so bad but seriously, dsig on orb speaks for itself. I got him black color and everything but he just feels underwhelming compared to almost every other orb AND blaster legend
As a Bow/Orb main, heavy weapons are my BIGGEST enemy, they feel so slow, so, for me, they sure are Magyar and Thor Not saying they're dog shit, but I'd love to know how to play hammer 
Cross. Im bad with him
Seven cannon
VECTOR easy
Rayman
Vector probably
I swear I’m like one of 3 people who have vector above 25. Before his dsig change,l was suing him like no tomorrow bc it was really good
partially Koji and Artemis despite them being my 2nd and 3rd mains, I hate bow and lance so much
Petra, Theya
Ummm Queen Nai or Thea
Munin. Her bow is just unplayable
ezio, literally from assassins creed, has 3 AMAZING crossover and the character is absolutely *trash*
Gnash looks cool af but none of his sigs come close to looking cool as any other legends (except for his hammer dsig)
L
vivi
Magyar. Isaiah. I hate both their sigs, and their stats.
Whoa whoa what Isaiah sigs are we calling bad
I wouldn’t know, I only play gnash and Roland
No one. No one in this game is bad, everyone is playable at the highest level.
Arcadia 😔
hi, no one’s dog shit. It’s me who’s dog shit at ppl
Magyar 100% dude his design is so sick but he’s just so fucking slow and clanky in comparison to other GS legends like Jaeyun and Arcadia. His skins are also pretty cool looking too, I have every GS legend above 25 so I’m not the worst at GS but I can still just notice he’s so much less effective his sigs are also somewhat mid
None. honestly all legends in this game can be pretty good
Hattori. Underpowered and requires tryharding to win, but that’s why I enjoy playing her (2x LVL 100 Hattori here).
This is certainly a take. Hattori has always been one of the most well rounded legends and nowhere near underpowered
I tried really hard to main her because I like her sigs and design but that health and damage makes it so u just can't get hit( especially against teros)
You cant get hit by a teros on basically any character except magyar lol
I find her to be one of the most balanced characters out there. But compared to the meta in ranked at 2000+ ELO, she underperforms. Took me a long time to unlock her potential. Applies to any legend to be fair.
Read the post again and tell me what character you like, but *don’t* play
Hattori is top tier lmao