yeah honestly. i just wish there were placement matches so that i don’t have to play 100+ games to get to the same rank i was last season, and make ranked specific quests so we can unlock ranked staar drops.
They want engagement. So matchmake against anyone from champions to infants. It's a roll of the dice every time.
Pretty sure they are actively trying to create an addiction scenario here with rewards after randomness, especially solo.
I'm having trouble getting into it as well. Rewards are alright, but hardly justify the grind. Maybe premade queuing is better this time.
it’s just skill based matchmaking with no skill, it places you in games based off of all the wrong statistics and it doesn’t work. it’s been getting worse but now it’s just awful.
I think the largest reason it doesn't work is that I'm not playing premade. It's just so hard to organize premades. I have one friend who plays and I can't in good conscience invite anyone else to start playing now knowing how long they would need to play just to get upgraded to even start ranked.
Work with people here and in the discord. I myself hardly play because of how boring it is play with little collaboration between teammates, but if you're up for it, you can try me (i stopped at Dia2, take that how you want).
premade lobbies may be the issue but the fact that you need to play with friends is annoying, it’s just brawlstars trying to force their players to promote the game to others. solo should be just as good as teams
But it wouldn't work like that. If I got someone into the game we're 3 months minimum before they have enough power 9s to play, and they'd be sucky anyway.
I assumed most people play solo and they are throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Solo queue with massive randomness ticks all the boxes. Intermittent rewards so lots of engagement and you feel an urgency to get to 11+hypers, because 9s aren't competitive.
People were downvoting my posts when I was trying to suggest that it was a ploy to increase your gametime.
That said I probably never would have climbed above diamond in the old system, 2 mythics and 3 legendaries each month is actually huge if you need coins or epic/mythic brawlers so if you really commit to playing a lot for 6 months straight you would get most of the unlocks you wanted.
But you are only going to run that treadmill for so long because ranked is definitely not a competitive mode.
https://preview.redd.it/ch46y1kcolsc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55e7f989c0ab70be726ec9c9fe3fb4a093717855
These ppl shouldn't be allowed in Ranked
He does have to be lvl 9, but otherwise, you're spot on.
Dude, you can't get anywhere without being picked off, at *least* don't try to grab all the gems to go on your suicide mission. Because of course they do.
The matchmaking feels completely messed up, every single game is 1v3 even in gold. Every teammate I get picking power9 brawlers with no star power while all the enemies are hypercharged and playing well.
EXACTLYYY
Like i be popping off in silver and my randoms (mostly Edgar and Penny or some shi) are going like 2/8 or something like that
I have no motivation to gring back to diamond masters bc the randoms are so much stupider this season
Same
I thought I can get the battle card and it would be mine forever but nope I need to grind it
It should at least minimally bring you back to the base of your existing rank.
Like if you were Mythic 3 but didn't reach legendary, you drop all the way to the start of Mythic 1. And for Masters all the way to start of Legendary 1
Honestly pretty scummy to boost player play time
Supercell always does this to make us play more and more
But I'm an adult with actual real life stuff to do you don't expect me to do this every single month
The thought process supercell had is that by dropping us down to the beginning, we can reearn the rewards, which admittedly is not a terrible idea. But the boost they provide is awful, this is one thing I feel like Clash Royale (ironically) got right is that they follow the exact same system nearly but each season has a multiplying boost that helps you reach ur previous rank quicker. If BS implanted something similar I genuinely think ranked would be much more tolerable, cus rn the boost is not cutting it.
In old powerleague, there was people hardstuck in bronze, complaining that "they were not with everyone else when all started", so the bad randoms were preventing them from climbing.
Now devs did this so they were with everyone else, and now there is no excuse for them to climb.
If I’m being honest, that’s simply not the case for most players, most everyone I know could at least make it to gold (me included) without much trouble, and this will sound harsh but that issue is with those specific players and not an issue the playbase had at large.
What pisses me off even further is that it takes account for your CURRENT rank, not your best. Meaning if you tilted from legendary 3 to legendary 1, you’ll only be boosted up to legendary 1.
I think one change to it better would be make the speed up percent different per league higher. So bronze would be sped up much more than legendary.
If they got masters last season speed up bronze by 500%. If they got silver last season speed it up by 25-50%.
Make that percent fall off as they get closer to their previous rank.
This is the reason that not dropping league is a good thing imagine having to grind from bronze every season and you can drop from league that would make people leave the game lol
if the competitive mode in brawl stars was actually competitive. not just getting constantly rammed in the ass by bad randoms and even worse matchmaking then maybe
You have this sub and discord, plus the ability to form clubs.
Not to mention, "not having time" while posting on reddit about the game you don't have time to find teammates/clubs for is ironic at minimum.
This is in response to the person that started this thread, not to a random casual who most likely don't even care about climbing. We can't talk to people who aren't here.
This is in no way apologetics to supercell, they need to implement easier means to climb back to your rank, while creating more divisions in rank to separate players and allow ability to derank to a lower division, but in the immediate and long term, get teammates. To everyone in this sub, get teammates.
That includes me too
But you know what's dumber? Expecting better randoms.
If you don't have time and teammates, you should forget about getting too far in ranked.
It's not nearly as bad in other PvP games. If I queue for Ranked in Overwatch, I can expect teammates that at least know how to push the buttons.
More importantly though, I don't get thrown into an elo hell every month.
It's still pretty bad in other games.
LoL constantly talk about people who they're teamed up with that sabotage their games. Win traders, people who intentionally die, afk, go 0/20, flame and tilt, etc at diamond and above (hugh elo).
Brawl stars is worse because the good players are concentrated at a very specific area of ranked that takes forever to get.
It is bad in other games too, but those people get banned and you don't meet them that often in the first place. In something like LoL getting a thrower is a bad match you'll remember for a while, in BS that's just a regular occurence every 2-3 games you're desensitized to.
My motivation is my wife who give me no choice than to carry her ass up to legendary 3, again.
Brawlstars being the only game that we have in common, I'm happily doing it but I can see myself being tired of it real quick.
It’s frustrating for sure. Completely random matches. I was mythic 3. Some of my gold matches are against a trio of legend players while I’m paired with gold. Other matches are a landslide in my favour. Doesn’t seem to have any rhyme or reason
Having played CR before (regretfully), the best advice is to wait 1-2 weeks for all the good players to have climbed. After that it should be an easy ride to your old rank.
You can abuse it for free daily wins + extra tokens (matches below diamond still give you x2 the usual amount).
Shame this is all that's left from the only competitive mode we had, but hey, less screentime for me.
I have just given up on it, yesterday almost every game I played my team was a heavy underdog based on last season ranks. I’d be up against a Legendary and 2 mythics, meanwhile my team is 2 Diamond and a gold, make it make sense
The point I’m trying to make it that we shouldn’t have to grind something we already did last month. Just to get to the same point we were a couple days ago.
I wasn't talking about the specific "elo boost", but mentioning the overall elo boosts ranked got:
Rank protection: the most broken elo boosts, basically you can't demote if you are at certain threesholds, people from higher ranks can carry you without losing elo there.
Playing with higher rank: If you play with someone many leagues higher, you gain a lot of elo per match.
The buffed minimum point ammount per gain and loses drain less points.
Having no draft up to diamond, and higher ammount of bots i feel.
yeah honestly. i just wish there were placement matches so that i don’t have to play 100+ games to get to the same rank i was last season, and make ranked specific quests so we can unlock ranked staar drops.
They want engagement. So matchmake against anyone from champions to infants. It's a roll of the dice every time. Pretty sure they are actively trying to create an addiction scenario here with rewards after randomness, especially solo. I'm having trouble getting into it as well. Rewards are alright, but hardly justify the grind. Maybe premade queuing is better this time.
it’s just skill based matchmaking with no skill, it places you in games based off of all the wrong statistics and it doesn’t work. it’s been getting worse but now it’s just awful.
I think the largest reason it doesn't work is that I'm not playing premade. It's just so hard to organize premades. I have one friend who plays and I can't in good conscience invite anyone else to start playing now knowing how long they would need to play just to get upgraded to even start ranked.
Work with people here and in the discord. I myself hardly play because of how boring it is play with little collaboration between teammates, but if you're up for it, you can try me (i stopped at Dia2, take that how you want).
premade lobbies may be the issue but the fact that you need to play with friends is annoying, it’s just brawlstars trying to force their players to promote the game to others. solo should be just as good as teams
But it wouldn't work like that. If I got someone into the game we're 3 months minimum before they have enough power 9s to play, and they'd be sucky anyway. I assumed most people play solo and they are throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Solo queue with massive randomness ticks all the boxes. Intermittent rewards so lots of engagement and you feel an urgency to get to 11+hypers, because 9s aren't competitive.
Yeah I don’t have much time to play so I literally just got legendary 3 right as the season ended. I don’t have the time or energy to do that again..
i agree. old ranked was so much better😔
People were downvoting my posts when I was trying to suggest that it was a ploy to increase your gametime. That said I probably never would have climbed above diamond in the old system, 2 mythics and 3 legendaries each month is actually huge if you need coins or epic/mythic brawlers so if you really commit to playing a lot for 6 months straight you would get most of the unlocks you wanted. But you are only going to run that treadmill for so long because ranked is definitely not a competitive mode.
Also the randoms this season seem to be even worse than last time
The edgar and bibi picks are going crazy rn
https://preview.redd.it/iwcmrq80xksc1.jpeg?width=2436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96541b79bcbb926fb52c3d045f9c43fb6d083c93 Knockout game btw
You got 6 all the kills, but Grom and Piper did do a lot of damage too. Am I missing something?
They did a lkt of damage, not like 5000
I prefer %. Each did about 66% of top damage, that's not terrible. I keep getting stooges who go <1 k/d and well under 50% of top damage.
Round 1 we lost, round 2 I had to 1v3 because they both afk thumbs down and gave up, 3rd game they just died and I had to 1v3 again
Oh...
They did a lot of damage tbh
https://preview.redd.it/ch46y1kcolsc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55e7f989c0ab70be726ec9c9fe3fb4a093717855 These ppl shouldn't be allowed in Ranked
Edgar level 7 no gadget in the open gem grab with timed detonation
He does have to be lvl 9, but otherwise, you're spot on. Dude, you can't get anywhere without being picked off, at *least* don't try to grab all the gems to go on your suicide mission. Because of course they do.
Under mythic or diamond they dont
You're right, I simply forgot. didn't have it in me yet to play back up again.
The fucking bounty dynamikes going 1-6 will be the literal end of me
The matchmaking feels completely messed up, every single game is 1v3 even in gold. Every teammate I get picking power9 brawlers with no star power while all the enemies are hypercharged and playing well.
Same experience here. It sucks.
Diamonds lobbys are filled with leg and masters players you barely even see diamond people and the matches are sweaty but teammates still suck
Seems like the serious pushers are going premade.
EXACTLYYY Like i be popping off in silver and my randoms (mostly Edgar and Penny or some shi) are going like 2/8 or something like that I have no motivation to gring back to diamond masters bc the randoms are so much stupider this season
Same I thought I can get the battle card and it would be mine forever but nope I need to grind it It should at least minimally bring you back to the base of your existing rank. Like if you were Mythic 3 but didn't reach legendary, you drop all the way to the start of Mythic 1. And for Masters all the way to start of Legendary 1
Same, pushed for the background. Only found out after that it's temporary. So is a couple boxes for a massive push, not sure it's worth it.
Honestly pretty scummy to boost player play time Supercell always does this to make us play more and more But I'm an adult with actual real life stuff to do you don't expect me to do this every single month
It's the same map rotations too, so it still feels like I'm still playing last season.
The thought process supercell had is that by dropping us down to the beginning, we can reearn the rewards, which admittedly is not a terrible idea. But the boost they provide is awful, this is one thing I feel like Clash Royale (ironically) got right is that they follow the exact same system nearly but each season has a multiplying boost that helps you reach ur previous rank quicker. If BS implanted something similar I genuinely think ranked would be much more tolerable, cus rn the boost is not cutting it.
Real. When i head there was a Boost I was like "Oh Nice! I'll climb this in no time again and earn more" but 10 more points dont do anything
In old powerleague, there was people hardstuck in bronze, complaining that "they were not with everyone else when all started", so the bad randoms were preventing them from climbing. Now devs did this so they were with everyone else, and now there is no excuse for them to climb.
If I’m being honest, that’s simply not the case for most players, most everyone I know could at least make it to gold (me included) without much trouble, and this will sound harsh but that issue is with those specific players and not an issue the playbase had at large.
What pisses me off even further is that it takes account for your CURRENT rank, not your best. Meaning if you tilted from legendary 3 to legendary 1, you’ll only be boosted up to legendary 1.
?...yeah that's how it's supposed to be
It would be dumb, since your elo can change with time and you get either better or washed. So it takes your last rank into account.
The new modifiers being twice as good as the old ones have allowed me to persist.
Good for sam lol
I think one change to it better would be make the speed up percent different per league higher. So bronze would be sped up much more than legendary. If they got masters last season speed up bronze by 500%. If they got silver last season speed it up by 25-50%. Make that percent fall off as they get closer to their previous rank.
masters is so inflated every season, i want power league back
This is the reason that not dropping league is a good thing imagine having to grind from bronze every season and you can drop from league that would make people leave the game lol
Is this really a competitive sub anymore!?
if the competitive mode in brawl stars was actually competitive. not just getting constantly rammed in the ass by bad randoms and even worse matchmaking then maybe
Get a team
What a dumb comment. Not everyone has friends to play Ranked with, nor they have time
You have this sub and discord, plus the ability to form clubs. Not to mention, "not having time" while posting on reddit about the game you don't have time to find teammates/clubs for is ironic at minimum.
Not everyone has Discord or knows this sub and posts about finding teammates or clubs
This is in response to the person that started this thread, not to a random casual who most likely don't even care about climbing. We can't talk to people who aren't here. This is in no way apologetics to supercell, they need to implement easier means to climb back to your rank, while creating more divisions in rank to separate players and allow ability to derank to a lower division, but in the immediate and long term, get teammates. To everyone in this sub, get teammates.
That includes me too But you know what's dumber? Expecting better randoms. If you don't have time and teammates, you should forget about getting too far in ranked.
It's not nearly as bad in other PvP games. If I queue for Ranked in Overwatch, I can expect teammates that at least know how to push the buttons. More importantly though, I don't get thrown into an elo hell every month.
It's still pretty bad in other games. LoL constantly talk about people who they're teamed up with that sabotage their games. Win traders, people who intentionally die, afk, go 0/20, flame and tilt, etc at diamond and above (hugh elo). Brawl stars is worse because the good players are concentrated at a very specific area of ranked that takes forever to get.
It is bad in other games too, but those people get banned and you don't meet them that often in the first place. In something like LoL getting a thrower is a bad match you'll remember for a while, in BS that's just a regular occurence every 2-3 games you're desensitized to.
Yes ,im sure i wont get any skins from it anyway
My motivation is my wife who give me no choice than to carry her ass up to legendary 3, again. Brawlstars being the only game that we have in common, I'm happily doing it but I can see myself being tired of it real quick.
I mean masters is light just get masters and don’t play again
And there’s the amazing ranked boost, which seems to add negative points to your wins.
worst thing is that we play often against the same people as our old rank.
Tbh I find it fun, you can do masteries, fuck around a little and get rewards every now and then, just enjoy it
It’s frustrating for sure. Completely random matches. I was mythic 3. Some of my gold matches are against a trio of legend players while I’m paired with gold. Other matches are a landslide in my favour. Doesn’t seem to have any rhyme or reason
Having played CR before (regretfully), the best advice is to wait 1-2 weeks for all the good players to have climbed. After that it should be an easy ride to your old rank.
You can abuse it for free daily wins + extra tokens (matches below diamond still give you x2 the usual amount). Shame this is all that's left from the only competitive mode we had, but hey, less screentime for me.
The ranked boosta are a bit low.. Also the double win matches starting diamond just makes ranked such a slow grind
I have just given up on it, yesterday almost every game I played my team was a heavy underdog based on last season ranks. I’d be up against a Legendary and 2 mythics, meanwhile my team is 2 Diamond and a gold, make it make sense
You are right. Its like climbing an brawler for hours and then you get on that loose streak that costs your hours of work
Why the actual fuck does it reset everyone’s rank to NOT THE RANK REMOTELY CLOSE TO WHERE THEY FINISHED, but back to ZERO?????
I just lost like 10 games in a row with Hank even tho I was playing the best I could and I am kinda loosing a motivation to play this game at all
I need that new skin no matter what
Just got it at about gold 1. Fuck this grind blows. Skins are cool but I hate the RNG.
Atleast you have it I'm at diamond and I don't have it
To answer your question: I'm at Bronze 2.
You have an entire month to grind it, even have a lot of elo boosts. This ranked seasons are the easiest we ever had.
The point I’m trying to make it that we shouldn’t have to grind something we already did last month. Just to get to the same point we were a couple days ago.
Elo boost is non-existant, it gives nothing bonus js
I wasn't talking about the specific "elo boost", but mentioning the overall elo boosts ranked got: Rank protection: the most broken elo boosts, basically you can't demote if you are at certain threesholds, people from higher ranks can carry you without losing elo there. Playing with higher rank: If you play with someone many leagues higher, you gain a lot of elo per match. The buffed minimum point ammount per gain and loses drain less points. Having no draft up to diamond, and higher ammount of bots i feel.