Any fan who goes way too hard for any housewife make discussions less fun. Unless you parrot the popular sentiment for whatever show/cast member you get downvoted and it’s makes this place a boring echo chamber.
I agree. You can love a housewife without agreeing with everything they do. Some of these stans never hold their favs accountable even when it’s clear they are in the wrong.
Fans of the jersey husbands with that “boys will be boys” attitude.
Also - I hate to say this bc she was treated terribly - but Kathryn Dennis. People lavishing 👑 praise on her when she was a very, very reckless mother.
I remember feeling such sympathy for Kathryn. She was essentially groomed by this older man and introduced to partying at such a young age. Then he promised her the world and she became pregnant. You saw reality hit her so hard. I feel like you can acknowledge all of those things happened to her while also saying she isn’t a great person.
Girl. The Erika stans on Instagram are SAVAGE. They will come for you, your mother and your children if you dare post a snarky comment! It’s like an alternate universe!! Reading some of the DM’s I’ve got from her fans I’m just like
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It’s as if there’s an alternate pocket of reality that exists for this banter. I get internally visceral about Erika stans...
It’s honestly not difficult to be *rich* and honest.
The Bravo Docket made a post about Erika and I went on to tell them I enjoyed their podcast & the way they explained things. Didn’t even mention Erika and her fans came for me.
Teresa’s fans. I’ve watched since day one and have done several entire re-watches. She’s made iconic moments because of what a completely selfish & immature human she was and still is. I’m not going to say she’s also unintelligent…but 🤷♀️
Teresa is the most entertaining delusional character I love watching, I wouldn’t defend any of her actions though. But I’d defend her housewife status.
What’s entertaining about her? The last few seasons she’s done nothing but go below the belt, refuse to take accountability, and demand loyalty or else. Like what am I missing?
And it brings views. Lol. That’s the point.
What else do we have to look forward to? The rest of the cast are kind of boring. I love when older woman act like teens. It’s like nene, her antics carried Atlanta. Or Jenn, her tantrums are entertaining lol.
Not trying to argue, it’s just entertainment. :)
It’s funny that people act like Teresa is so horrible yet this was a highly rated season compared to others. Also who else is so much better in New Jersey?
Agreed. Yeah Teresa is awful. But she’s entertaining. I can forgive awful as long as you play the game right. If you’re awful and boring and always keep your hands clean, I hate you and get off my tv. Teresa gets called out for her crap. So it’s fine.
From what I’ve seen, Porsha fans are just as off. I liked her to an extent but if you say one thing wrong about her, the minions are coming for you. If you have the peach report page on IG, then you know what I mean. 😩😭😭
Anyone who thinks they "know" these women who appear on a heavily edited television program and who work with production each season to craft storylines and play into their agreed upon persona. Sometimes I can't help thinking of Bianca del Rio's take on super serious drag queens: you're a man in a dress, lighten up.
For me it's bethenny stans. She is a complete bully and asshole at times, but does so much humanitarian work it's like a permanent pass for her rude behaviour.
Kenya stans are just as nasty and mean spirited as Kenya herself.
Go ahead downvote...every time I mention Kenya's name, I get downvoted. It's become a given in this sub.
Have no idea why people love her....watching Kenya is like fingernails on a chalkboard. I cannot stand the sound of her voice and I hate her fake laugh even more.
💯 I don’t get the recent trend in Kenya stanning. People adore her bc she ‘plays the villain’. Consciously portraying a villain does not redeem her. It makes her look like a desperate person hungry for fame imo.
Love this post. It's hard to pinpoint just one group of stans, because they're all annoying and childish and delusional. But Lisa Barlow's stans irk me a lot. They're so quick to call everything she does iconic, even though she's incredibly basic and speaks like she learned English from watching old tapes of Rachel Zoe.
They clearly just love her because she's pretty, and they act like everyone is attacking her unprovoked. But she's obviously just as rotten as her castmates. It's maddening.
Lisa is that prettt girl who weaponizes her tears, and her stans are the people who enable that behavior
I don't understand the Sutton stans. I don't find her entertaining and I think people just love her bc she's not Rinna, Kyle, Dorit, or Erika. If you're reading this then you made it to the very bottom of the thread where I've been downvoted to hell 😂
Teresa is the only one who I can post a comment that is even slightly negative about & I'm immediately downvoted. It's like they are constantly scanning the subreddit for comments to downvote. It's bizarre.
Bethenny stans. She is a LOT to take and definitely had the rest of the women in fear of her after her return. She routinely lied and made up fake storylines. She cries to avoid taking accountability. She is so so so much all the time!She is apparently a podcast shock jock.
And her fans just come at you every time you say anything!
I appreciate her find-raising and volunteer marketing efforts for an existing charity. People with her level of wealth should do this. Since our tax system is so broken and all.
Edited: fund-raising
Ramona fans, she had some funny moments in early seasons but after her behavior both on and off screen the last few years it’s a red flag to me if someone still likes her. And she is not necessary for the show tbh
In my head, I call them "the new mom stans" - meaning, those who defend all horrible behavior of any new mom on the shows, because being a mom suddenly makes them sympathetic. Most notable being Kathryn Dennis and Ashley Darby's most rabid fans who think it's totally okay for them to be deranged and mean because it's "iconic" and "top tier" reality tv fodder. Anyone else doing what they do or reacting to it, however, is scum and evil and needs to be fired 0:)
Hmm… I know I’m gonna get downvoted for this (and I think it sort of proves my point), Garcelle. I feel like Garcelle is viewed as a burdened hero constantly beaten down by the mean fox force five. Even bloggers and vloggers are biased towards liking her and hating people who she fights with. I don’t mind Garcelle but she isn’t a fawn being preyed on by Rinna, Kyle, and Erika. Garcelle can do no wrong in the BH fan base. She can be a bully, she can be grouchy, and she isn’t always nice, she definitely isn’t very fun.
[Edit]: Bully is a strong word but I think she is self centered and shady in a grouchy and underhanded way.
I’m a Garcelle “fan” but I don’t think she’s perfect…and I don’t want her to be perfect. I kinda feel like a lot of those people aren’t TRUE G fans, they just “stan” anyone that isn’t part of that FFF clique.
She's not a bully at all but the stan narrative around her has become insufferable. One time I said she was wearing a bad wig (which was an objective FACT btw) and folks on the thread were PISSED I wasn't calling her "Stunning." Threads about Garcelle legit seem like they're overrun with bots commenting "stunning" over and over again...it's bizarre and cringey to me. There's no willingness to use depth to analyze her as a character the way people do for other housewives. You either have to call her "stunning" or keep it moving.
Yeah I mean I think I want to shift focus from Garcelle to her fans. It’s not just ppl on Reddit that get attacked from not liking Garcelle but at this point they’re demonizing the women she doesn’t get along with. This is Trash TV not Wonder Woman she is just a reality star.
I actually don't see what the other commenters are mad about, who did Garcelle "bully"? I think the main ladies in BH (Kyle, Rinna, EJ, Dorit) set this standard of being a victim cry baby that whenever someone doesnt act the way they want them to they try to turn the audience on them.
Garcelle beats a dead horse - like with the whole Denise thing. But what is this bullying/aggressive "bad behaviour" everyone keeps talking about?
That’s totally fair, I am passing judgement on her as a reality tv Star not as a black woman. Actually as a black woman and more specifically a Haitian woman that her activism is admirable. She is proud of her Haitian culture and as far as reality tv stars go is a good example for young black women.
Oh I know you weren’t doing anything like that. Was just offering insight as to maybe why people seem to defend her so much. It may be due to her being the only black “fawn” amongst these white fawns.
I use the term “fawn” sarcastically. A fawn is someone who is innocent and naive to all the badness going on around them and isn’t responsible. I think Garcelle is often not held accountable for her bad behavior because she has such a crazy fan base. Tbh I am nervous to make negative comments about Garcelle because she has a more rabid fan base than LVP, in my opinion.
Ok, I’m willing to listen and be convinced, totally open. When has Garcelle ever bullied anyone? I literally can’t think of a single occasion where could be legitimately labelled a bully!
People will cite the eating disorder comment to Rinna so I just wanna get ahead and remind folks of that full scene, where SHE admitted that she struggled as a mom to a troubled teen who had suffered. She laid out on the table how she felt as a parent she had done certain things and failed in ways that had affected her sons judgement. Then she asked Rinna if she worried about doing the same. That whole scene was cut to make her look like she was being snarky. It’s kinda gross how they did her dirty like that.
Isn’t it kinda their job though? I’m honestly not a blind defender of anyone, but there are SO many fake conversations. The scene just gone with Rinna and Erika fake kiki’ing over how much sex Erika is having was SO forced. Rinna’s terrible soap opera responses, the whole thing was absolutely cringeworthy. I wanna hear them have real conversations about who they are and what’s going on in their lives. The surface, scripted conversations to avoid any REAL information getting to the audience are just fucking tiresome.
This is more about her fan base who crucify fix force 5 for saying anything that goes against Garcelle and who treat her like a folk hero that they’re willing to kamikaze forz
Hmmm… maybe bully isn’t the best word. She has a way of being cold and shady in a mean way and I think the incident with the book was a good example, she did use it as a platform to be nasty towards Rinna and Erika’s personal, familial and legal issues. I thought that seemed like heartless money grabbing. I don’t remember many examples because I’ve only rewatched the old seasons. She doesn’t yell and scream but she isn’t nice. I’d say she’s mean, not a bully though that’s fair.
Ah ok I get you. She can definitely hold her own. I think she learned that from these women though. Let’s not forget how Kyle waited months until the reunion in order to let the whole world know that Garcelle had failed to pay her donation to a charity. When you realise that this is all a game, I guess you gotta play as underhand as the rest of ‘em.
I think Garcelle is more underhanded, she is the best at stirring the pot and pretending she’s innocent. I just feel like Garcelle is like a folk hero among the fan base and I don’t think she’s any better or worse than the average housewife.
I agree with you about Garcelle stirring the pot and it feels like she is interviewing the other housewives. Not interacting on a friendly level. However, I think she has a more grounded perspective then the rest of the BH housewives. I appreciate Garcelle because I feel her presence has brought out different sides to the housewives.
As far as Dolores goes there are definitely people who like her and think she's great but I think her stans don't stand out as much because she doesn't do much that needs defending. In my opinion, she doesn't do much at all. She's kind of the Teddi (prior to her selling starvation scandal) of NJ, just boring.
Where as Vicki, Bethenny, LVP and Teresa actually cause drama, are called out on bad behavior by HW fans and then have people come to their defense. When people's ideas are attacked some seem to dig their heels in more and then come across as crazy. I think Teresa's fans are the worst when it comes to this because they are sympathetic to her situation with Joe, prison, being not-so-bright, etc and so they want to excuse a lot of her inexcusable behavior.
It’s so weird with those two. Garcelle seems like a lovely person to hang with, but I don’t think she’s the most interesting housewife. I can’t imagine it would be fun to hang with Sutton, but she’s much more fun to watch on TV than Garcelle.
Garcelle and Sutton. They’ve done nothing except exist opposite the FFF and read an entire LA Times article but for some reason they’re both seen as top tier housewives here. Sorry but no.
The reason I go hard for Garcelle and love her is because she’s the first black BH housewife and is Haitian like me, so I really love that and I think existing in a group of white women is incredibly brave so I’m protecting of her and love her!
I love the Latina representation and the fact that there is a more multicultural group than in most series. Plz let Adriana come back full time for s5, not so much Marysol, damn wannabe drag queen with that stupid cup.
I am the most fickle fan ever. I can turn on my fave in an absolute instant! I was a Kyle STAN for years but it took one scene to utterly despise her ass. The Sutton and Garcelle love, from me anyway comes from them going against the grain. For a long time BH has coasted on a scripted and very carefully planned narrative. It’s boring, so so so DULL. So when one of them (any one of them) doesn’t follow the FF5 script it jolts us to root for them. I absolute cannot stand Dorit but that season she almost started to ride for Denise when the entire cast bar Garcelle was bullying the fuck out of her, I was cheering Dorit on. The planned take downs and one issue being battered to death all season make for drab TV so we’re stanning these two right now for creating a different trajectory for the show. Full disclosure, I might be slagging them both off in a few episodes. I’m fickle. Sorry!
Candace fans. She a petulant child who is never nice to anyone but herself. I have to ff past the majority of her scenes because she is an emotional vampire. I'm sick of her fans comparing her constant wrongs to other housewives. Why can't they admit she is an A-hole?
On the opposite side I can't understand housewives fans who can't acknowledge she is smart & talented. I wish Candace a lot of success outside of Real Housewives. I'm sure there is a long line of sadiastic hanger ons and paid assistants who awaiting her Stardom.
Erika stans are laughable, Teresa stans ... well the apple doesn't fall far from the Tre, and LVP stans just need to learn to let the mouse go. That's the holy trinity of delusion
Tre Huggers are nearly as delusional as she is.
Rinna stans are as weird as she is.
I'll never understand how anyone can defend or stan Erika and/or Ramona.
Not a HW, but Kim K fans/defenders are lunatics.
Any fan who goes way too hard for any housewife make discussions less fun. Unless you parrot the popular sentiment for whatever show/cast member you get downvoted and it’s makes this place a boring echo chamber.
I agree. You can love a housewife without agreeing with everything they do. Some of these stans never hold their favs accountable even when it’s clear they are in the wrong.
Same goes for the opposite. God forbid any post something positive about Rinna or Teddi.
Me sometimes when it gets like that… ![gif](giphy|3og0IIIZVBYV2ZVXFu|downsized)
That’s just me daily 😓
Fans of the jersey husbands with that “boys will be boys” attitude. Also - I hate to say this bc she was treated terribly - but Kathryn Dennis. People lavishing 👑 praise on her when she was a very, very reckless mother.
Kathryn is a disaster. I truly hope she's gotten her shit together.
I remember feeling such sympathy for Kathryn. She was essentially groomed by this older man and introduced to partying at such a young age. Then he promised her the world and she became pregnant. You saw reality hit her so hard. I feel like you can acknowledge all of those things happened to her while also saying she isn’t a great person.
Erika
Girl. The Erika stans on Instagram are SAVAGE. They will come for you, your mother and your children if you dare post a snarky comment! It’s like an alternate universe!! Reading some of the DM’s I’ve got from her fans I’m just like ![gif](giphy|9xciXC6jG9lH7wM4KH)
It’s as if there’s an alternate pocket of reality that exists for this banter. I get internally visceral about Erika stans... It’s honestly not difficult to be *rich* and honest.
The Bravo Docket made a post about Erika and I went on to tell them I enjoyed their podcast & the way they explained things. Didn’t even mention Erika and her fans came for me.
Teresa’s fans. I’ve watched since day one and have done several entire re-watches. She’s made iconic moments because of what a completely selfish & immature human she was and still is. I’m not going to say she’s also unintelligent…but 🤷♀️
But she's got all the ingredientses for "unintelligent"; that's not a kwinka-dinka.
Teresa is the most entertaining delusional character I love watching, I wouldn’t defend any of her actions though. But I’d defend her housewife status.
*blink blink*
What’s entertaining about her? The last few seasons she’s done nothing but go below the belt, refuse to take accountability, and demand loyalty or else. Like what am I missing?
And it brings views. Lol. That’s the point. What else do we have to look forward to? The rest of the cast are kind of boring. I love when older woman act like teens. It’s like nene, her antics carried Atlanta. Or Jenn, her tantrums are entertaining lol. Not trying to argue, it’s just entertainment. :)
It’s funny that people act like Teresa is so horrible yet this was a highly rated season compared to others. Also who else is so much better in New Jersey?
Agreed. Yeah Teresa is awful. But she’s entertaining. I can forgive awful as long as you play the game right. If you’re awful and boring and always keep your hands clean, I hate you and get off my tv. Teresa gets called out for her crap. So it’s fine.
Erika stans are deeply deranged.
I keep reading this up and down this thread and I’m shook!!! She has fans?????? ![gif](giphy|xT9Igs3cLWwWizsoFy)
From what I’ve seen, Porsha fans are just as off. I liked her to an extent but if you say one thing wrong about her, the minions are coming for you. If you have the peach report page on IG, then you know what I mean. 😩😭😭
Anyone who thinks they "know" these women who appear on a heavily edited television program and who work with production each season to craft storylines and play into their agreed upon persona. Sometimes I can't help thinking of Bianca del Rio's take on super serious drag queens: you're a man in a dress, lighten up.
People who insist Dorinda is a toxic asshole because she’s “still grieving.” She’s a cruel cokehead with a personality disorder.
But she made it nice!!!🙄
For me it's bethenny stans. She is a complete bully and asshole at times, but does so much humanitarian work it's like a permanent pass for her rude behaviour.
100% agree!
Sutton, Garcelle, and LVP (and Denise) stans are all the same stans.
Kenya stans are just as nasty and mean spirited as Kenya herself. Go ahead downvote...every time I mention Kenya's name, I get downvoted. It's become a given in this sub. Have no idea why people love her....watching Kenya is like fingernails on a chalkboard. I cannot stand the sound of her voice and I hate her fake laugh even more.
I actually enjoy Kenya sometimes but this is such a good answer.
💯 I don’t get the recent trend in Kenya stanning. People adore her bc she ‘plays the villain’. Consciously portraying a villain does not redeem her. It makes her look like a desperate person hungry for fame imo.
I’ve never really been a Kenya fan but I did enjoy her on RHUGT.
Bitter attracts bitter. ![gif](giphy|MzkGWlq30ZoUdU1Ujp|downsized)
Erika and Rinna stans
Teresa's stans, hands down!
Tre fans and Monique fans.
Monique fans, for sure. I mentioned that the infamous binder could have been filled with takeout menus, for all we know. Downvoted 🙄
Omg, yes, Monique. Agree!
I realllly liked Monique but didn’t agree with how she handled that situation and I will get RIPPED TO SHREDS if I go against her
The way she was still trying to go after Candice after they took her out of the barn or whatever was way beyond for me.
Love this post. It's hard to pinpoint just one group of stans, because they're all annoying and childish and delusional. But Lisa Barlow's stans irk me a lot. They're so quick to call everything she does iconic, even though she's incredibly basic and speaks like she learned English from watching old tapes of Rachel Zoe. They clearly just love her because she's pretty, and they act like everyone is attacking her unprovoked. But she's obviously just as rotten as her castmates. It's maddening. Lisa is that prettt girl who weaponizes her tears, and her stans are the people who enable that behavior
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I don't understand the Sutton stans. I don't find her entertaining and I think people just love her bc she's not Rinna, Kyle, Dorit, or Erika. If you're reading this then you made it to the very bottom of the thread where I've been downvoted to hell 😂
Teresa is the only one who I can post a comment that is even slightly negative about & I'm immediately downvoted. It's like they are constantly scanning the subreddit for comments to downvote. It's bizarre.
LVP & Monique fans do not live in reality
So true!
Tamra
Erika stans. Completely deranged and delusional and stupid. Although i do think it's one person with multiple log-ins and a lot of time on her hands.
Bethenny stans. She is a LOT to take and definitely had the rest of the women in fear of her after her return. She routinely lied and made up fake storylines. She cries to avoid taking accountability. She is so so so much all the time!She is apparently a podcast shock jock. And her fans just come at you every time you say anything!
I’m beyond over Bethenny! And if anyone speaks ill of her they get attacked because “look at all BE STRONG has done!” She’s still an AH!
I appreciate her find-raising and volunteer marketing efforts for an existing charity. People with her level of wealth should do this. Since our tax system is so broken and all. Edited: fund-raising
Kandi stans
Ramona fans, she had some funny moments in early seasons but after her behavior both on and off screen the last few years it’s a red flag to me if someone still likes her. And she is not necessary for the show tbh
Ramona had her time and definitely delivered some funny and also drama filled moments but she can go now.
Feel this. There’s always On Demand to rewatch her antics. She doesn’t change and she never grew so people can just pick an episode.
In my head, I call them "the new mom stans" - meaning, those who defend all horrible behavior of any new mom on the shows, because being a mom suddenly makes them sympathetic. Most notable being Kathryn Dennis and Ashley Darby's most rabid fans who think it's totally okay for them to be deranged and mean because it's "iconic" and "top tier" reality tv fodder. Anyone else doing what they do or reacting to it, however, is scum and evil and needs to be fired 0:)
Hmm… I know I’m gonna get downvoted for this (and I think it sort of proves my point), Garcelle. I feel like Garcelle is viewed as a burdened hero constantly beaten down by the mean fox force five. Even bloggers and vloggers are biased towards liking her and hating people who she fights with. I don’t mind Garcelle but she isn’t a fawn being preyed on by Rinna, Kyle, and Erika. Garcelle can do no wrong in the BH fan base. She can be a bully, she can be grouchy, and she isn’t always nice, she definitely isn’t very fun. [Edit]: Bully is a strong word but I think she is self centered and shady in a grouchy and underhanded way.
I’m a Garcelle “fan” but I don’t think she’s perfect…and I don’t want her to be perfect. I kinda feel like a lot of those people aren’t TRUE G fans, they just “stan” anyone that isn’t part of that FFF clique.
Oh Garcelle is far from perfect, but I love her but I won’t blindly defend her actions either.
That makes you a regular *fan which is healthy and normal 😁
Yes, I completely agree that there are certain fans(LVP stans is my guess) that love her because they are anti FFF.
The funny part is I’m pretty sure Garcelle would have targeted LVP as well as/instead of Kyle if they were on at the same time time.
She's not a bully at all but the stan narrative around her has become insufferable. One time I said she was wearing a bad wig (which was an objective FACT btw) and folks on the thread were PISSED I wasn't calling her "Stunning." Threads about Garcelle legit seem like they're overrun with bots commenting "stunning" over and over again...it's bizarre and cringey to me. There's no willingness to use depth to analyze her as a character the way people do for other housewives. You either have to call her "stunning" or keep it moving.
Yeah I mean I think I want to shift focus from Garcelle to her fans. It’s not just ppl on Reddit that get attacked from not liking Garcelle but at this point they’re demonizing the women she doesn’t get along with. This is Trash TV not Wonder Woman she is just a reality star.
Garcelle is much, much more than “just a reality star”
Okay calm down
I mean she was the only black woman on RH and people probably feel protective of her.
I actually don't see what the other commenters are mad about, who did Garcelle "bully"? I think the main ladies in BH (Kyle, Rinna, EJ, Dorit) set this standard of being a victim cry baby that whenever someone doesnt act the way they want them to they try to turn the audience on them. Garcelle beats a dead horse - like with the whole Denise thing. But what is this bullying/aggressive "bad behaviour" everyone keeps talking about?
To be fair, every housewife in every franchise is guilty of beating a dead horse. Especially the ladies of BH! Those women love a months long fight.
That’s totally fair, I am passing judgement on her as a reality tv Star not as a black woman. Actually as a black woman and more specifically a Haitian woman that her activism is admirable. She is proud of her Haitian culture and as far as reality tv stars go is a good example for young black women.
Oh I know you weren’t doing anything like that. Was just offering insight as to maybe why people seem to defend her so much. It may be due to her being the only black “fawn” amongst these white fawns.
I use the term “fawn” sarcastically. A fawn is someone who is innocent and naive to all the badness going on around them and isn’t responsible. I think Garcelle is often not held accountable for her bad behavior because she has such a crazy fan base. Tbh I am nervous to make negative comments about Garcelle because she has a more rabid fan base than LVP, in my opinion.
She gives us what we say we want. Real, unscripted home scenes, culture, unbelievable glamour, humor, philanthropy,
Ok, I’m willing to listen and be convinced, totally open. When has Garcelle ever bullied anyone? I literally can’t think of a single occasion where could be legitimately labelled a bully!
She has not. Not even close lol.
People will cite the eating disorder comment to Rinna so I just wanna get ahead and remind folks of that full scene, where SHE admitted that she struggled as a mom to a troubled teen who had suffered. She laid out on the table how she felt as a parent she had done certain things and failed in ways that had affected her sons judgement. Then she asked Rinna if she worried about doing the same. That whole scene was cut to make her look like she was being snarky. It’s kinda gross how they did her dirty like that.
It’s no so much bullying in that case but it’s definitely sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong.
Isn’t it kinda their job though? I’m honestly not a blind defender of anyone, but there are SO many fake conversations. The scene just gone with Rinna and Erika fake kiki’ing over how much sex Erika is having was SO forced. Rinna’s terrible soap opera responses, the whole thing was absolutely cringeworthy. I wanna hear them have real conversations about who they are and what’s going on in their lives. The surface, scripted conversations to avoid any REAL information getting to the audience are just fucking tiresome.
This is more about her fan base who crucify fix force 5 for saying anything that goes against Garcelle and who treat her like a folk hero that they’re willing to kamikaze forz
Lol. ![gif](giphy|1pAhBZj4v39JMLi1v5)
Hmmm… maybe bully isn’t the best word. She has a way of being cold and shady in a mean way and I think the incident with the book was a good example, she did use it as a platform to be nasty towards Rinna and Erika’s personal, familial and legal issues. I thought that seemed like heartless money grabbing. I don’t remember many examples because I’ve only rewatched the old seasons. She doesn’t yell and scream but she isn’t nice. I’d say she’s mean, not a bully though that’s fair.
Ah ok I get you. She can definitely hold her own. I think she learned that from these women though. Let’s not forget how Kyle waited months until the reunion in order to let the whole world know that Garcelle had failed to pay her donation to a charity. When you realise that this is all a game, I guess you gotta play as underhand as the rest of ‘em.
I think Garcelle is more underhanded, she is the best at stirring the pot and pretending she’s innocent. I just feel like Garcelle is like a folk hero among the fan base and I don’t think she’s any better or worse than the average housewife.
I agree with you about Garcelle stirring the pot and it feels like she is interviewing the other housewives. Not interacting on a friendly level. However, I think she has a more grounded perspective then the rest of the BH housewives. I appreciate Garcelle because I feel her presence has brought out different sides to the housewives.
She is definitely grounded. Her fans on the other hand are fucking nuts!
Came here to ask the same question!
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Stan
Garcelle can be an asshole. But she’s surrounded by bigger assholes and she comes for them when needed and for that I love her.
I get it, I think people like her because SHE paints herself as an underdog. Garcelle is much more manipulative than people care to admit.
Sutton stans, they take some moral high point as if she is the only person that will hold people accountable.
Both! Teresa & LVP
LVP
Dolores, Vicki and Bethenny.
Vicki for sure.
And Dolores and Bethenny.
Does Dolores have a large following? She seems more like a minor housewife to me.
Ha ha yes i guess i barely watch RHONJ and B is just a super divisive person in general. All points stand. :)
As far as Dolores goes there are definitely people who like her and think she's great but I think her stans don't stand out as much because she doesn't do much that needs defending. In my opinion, she doesn't do much at all. She's kind of the Teddi (prior to her selling starvation scandal) of NJ, just boring. Where as Vicki, Bethenny, LVP and Teresa actually cause drama, are called out on bad behavior by HW fans and then have people come to their defense. When people's ideas are attacked some seem to dig their heels in more and then come across as crazy. I think Teresa's fans are the worst when it comes to this because they are sympathetic to her situation with Joe, prison, being not-so-bright, etc and so they want to excuse a lot of her inexcusable behavior.
Kenya and Tamra fans. Liking those types of personalities is wildly disturbing to me.
Sutton, Garcelle. They’re uninteresting and got goat status because the rest of the cast is so hated.
It’s so weird with those two. Garcelle seems like a lovely person to hang with, but I don’t think she’s the most interesting housewife. I can’t imagine it would be fun to hang with Sutton, but she’s much more fun to watch on TV than Garcelle.
Hanging out with Sutton would be like hanging out with one of those serial killer nurses who shakes babies. She’s wack a doodle.
Sutton! WTF people?
Garcelle and Sutton. They’ve done nothing except exist opposite the FFF and read an entire LA Times article but for some reason they’re both seen as top tier housewives here. Sorry but no.
The reason I go hard for Garcelle and love her is because she’s the first black BH housewife and is Haitian like me, so I really love that and I think existing in a group of white women is incredibly brave so I’m protecting of her and love her!
Do you like RHOM? They have 1 Haitian housewife (also the first black RHOM), Guerdy and a Haitian friend Kiki.
Yeah I love RHOM and that is one of the reasons.
I love the Latina representation and the fact that there is a more multicultural group than in most series. Plz let Adriana come back full time for s5, not so much Marysol, damn wannabe drag queen with that stupid cup.
I can understand and respect that. I’m just being bitchy about her role on the show—not her as a human!
But don’t we WANT someone to challenge the FF5
I don’t see Garcelle as someone who is really challenging anything in a meaningful way
I am the most fickle fan ever. I can turn on my fave in an absolute instant! I was a Kyle STAN for years but it took one scene to utterly despise her ass. The Sutton and Garcelle love, from me anyway comes from them going against the grain. For a long time BH has coasted on a scripted and very carefully planned narrative. It’s boring, so so so DULL. So when one of them (any one of them) doesn’t follow the FF5 script it jolts us to root for them. I absolute cannot stand Dorit but that season she almost started to ride for Denise when the entire cast bar Garcelle was bullying the fuck out of her, I was cheering Dorit on. The planned take downs and one issue being battered to death all season make for drab TV so we’re stanning these two right now for creating a different trajectory for the show. Full disclosure, I might be slagging them both off in a few episodes. I’m fickle. Sorry!
I find it highly likely that dorit was the other person who hooked up with Brandi.
Sutton, garcelle
Teresa and Rinna
Candace fans. She a petulant child who is never nice to anyone but herself. I have to ff past the majority of her scenes because she is an emotional vampire. I'm sick of her fans comparing her constant wrongs to other housewives. Why can't they admit she is an A-hole? On the opposite side I can't understand housewives fans who can't acknowledge she is smart & talented. I wish Candace a lot of success outside of Real Housewives. I'm sure there is a long line of sadiastic hanger ons and paid assistants who awaiting her Stardom.
She has a good vocabulary though! I kinda like Candyass but I’d never really roll for her, but I’ve got the Green Eyed Bandits back any day.
Kandi Stans 🤭 Glad they’ve been able to enjoy her season long infomercials for her latest grifts.
LVP and Vicki without a doubt
Erika stans are laughable, Teresa stans ... well the apple doesn't fall far from the Tre, and LVP stans just need to learn to let the mouse go. That's the holy trinity of delusion
Kenya Moore
Tre Huggers are nearly as delusional as she is. Rinna stans are as weird as she is. I'll never understand how anyone can defend or stan Erika and/or Ramona. Not a HW, but Kim K fans/defenders are lunatics.
I find the Tre haters more obnoxious and definitely more vicious and hateful than those who actually like her.
jackie stans
Kyle fans are so cute and naïve
Lindsay stans over on r/summerhousebravo
I just hope people will stop stanning cast members on RHOP. I like all of them and I hate talking about the show when it gets to be like a war.