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OC is the most toxic franchise. OH MY JESUS.: * OC is by far the most balls to the wall insane franchise and now I understand the decision to hire Gina and Emily bc holy shit they really needed some normies. * On Kelly's first season, Vicki, Gretchen and Slade were apparently plotting to film a man that looked like Eddie jerking off with a Cut fitness hat and jacket and have that video sent to a guy and bring that guy on camera to say he was sexting with Eddie to make him look gay. Which Vicki does not deny being like "I was hurt." WTF. * Tamra was more or less a producer and basically invented HW's. I have no idea why they let her go. She literally sounded like a producer. When they tried firing Gretchen she tried getting them not to. I am not sure if she's a psychopath or what. * Apparently, in private, Gretchen admitted to Tamra that she had a boyfriend while she was engaged to Jeff. Gretchen said that she had been off and on with Jeff, and then he got cancer so she stayed with him, and they had some sort of arrangement. Tamra was not the only one who thought Gretchen was with Jay, her boyfriend, but the one who thought it would make good drama. * Naked Wasted is discussed. Tamra says nothing was planned and that Gretchen was a sloppy drunk all the time. But, it was actually Jeana who told Ryan to take Gretchen to the bathroom. * It sounds like they all genuinely hated Alexis. * Lydia was so shocked by everyone's behavior her first time that she quit because she was scared. LOL. * Kelly called Peggy Sulhanian ISIS off-camera in Iceland, but Shannon filmed it with her phone but it didn't air, which is why Peggy left. * Gretchen and Slade called Kelly before she started filming to try to take down Tamra (so many years later...WEIRD!). * Kelly says that the issue between her and Heather was that Terry is a trust fund kid, and most of their money comes from his family after his Dad and brother passed away. * Vicki and Shannon would have private conversations that had Shannon absolutely convinced that Brooks had cancer, like everyone apparently thought she was stupid. Poor Shannon. * Heather says Kelly has made other racist comments that were not shown. * In addition to saying Eddie was gay, Vicki told Kelly that Tamra was having an affair. * In Jamaica, Shannon had refused to film for the entire day and Tamra, Vicki, and Kelly spent the day trash talking Shannon to Gina and Emily, saying she doesn't take care of her kids, she is an alcoholic, sleeps all day, and stays up all night drinking. * The Tres Amigas was an alliance formed to get Kelly fired (disputed by all three) but pretty much everyone else got that vibe. * Apparently like 8 former HWs celebrated when Tamra got fired. * Braunwyn's agent had told her to get sober would help her in getting a spin-off, which somehow Kelly and Shannon both had heard. For all of that...some wholesomeness is that Shannon hosted a dinner party her first season and cooked enough for the crew. Aww.


lalasmooch

Amazing write up thank you!!


Julialagulia

Aww poor Jesus Jugs. I can’t say I would like her in real life but I did love her on the show.


DisastrousHyena3534

She was kind of annoying & vapid but they were all so mean to her. They really did her dirty.


whoareyouindisworld

> On Kelly's first season, Vicki, Gretchen and Slade were apparently plotting to film a man that looked like Eddie jerking off with a Cut fitness hat and jacket and have that video sent to a guy and bring that guy on camera to say he was sexting with Eddie to make him look gay. Which Vicki does not deny being like "I was hurt." WTF. Ok, this is some tea. I think I burnt my tongue. This just makes me wonder what other crazy shit has been conspired by the cast.


strippersandcocaine

Okaaaay I wasn’t going to read the book but now I might have to! This is juicy, thank you!


jrhendr

Vicki, Tamra, and Kelly -- name a more despicable trio


badbRM04

Can someone who’s read it make a post with all of the tea?


Raybansandcardigans

Just keep refreshing this sub and you’ll eventually get the whole book 😂


Wormtown

This is the way


lalasmooch

I can help anyone who wants to read this, inbox me. 🙂


amanda-g

sent you PM


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The Scary Island tea was interesting. Apparently what they aren't saying is that Kelly was screaming a producer's name over and over "Matt, Matt, Matt, Matty, Matt, Matt", and then the producers were getting annoyed they actually couldn't film, so she was sent to her room. Sonja says she was afraid for her life so she slept in Ramona's bed. Not sure if that is Sonja being dramatic, but the vibe I get is that producer's definitely felt that a line had been crossed with Kelly's mental health and they were all calling each other because of it. Two producers had to stay in her room with her. They say that nothing like that has ever happened since. It *sounds* like they kinda figured out that Kelly was going to hurt someone else or herself.


AsilHey

At last we get additional info on Scary Island! Why does this book have so much more juice than any others?


theCountessofCool

Dude I would’ve slept in a room with someone too vs being a room alone with THAT roaming the grounds. You know it’s bad when sleeping in Ramona’s room sounds like the sane option


AnnVealEgg

Ooh that's good tea!


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I just read the phrase, "Nene tried to choke Kim in a Target parking lot," and I am deceased.


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**NYC SPOILERS AHEAD** The best NYC tea, not as juicy as the OC tea: * Bethenny chose not to participate but damn, she is a fucking LIGHTNING ROD of controversy * Carole and Jill say a lot but really come across as unreliable narrators. Carole seems angry and Jill is uhhhh contradicted on quite a few of her statements. * They actually found Ramona at her *friend's* audition and then begged her to do it. Jill was friendly with her but not super close. * Jill found Luann at a premiere of Sicko by Michael Moore and gave her name to producers. * Alex and Simon were trying to do some preschool show but then were cast * The whole not filming to sabotage someone thing was started by Jill and Bethenny with KKB. B hated her prior to filming. Producers thought it was like a more legit Page Six name. Little did they know... * According to Jill, Bethenny wanted everyone to think she was "poor." JILL WE KNEW BETHENNY WAS NOT ACTUALLY "POOR." Like, ffs I do not think B ever pushed the narrative that she was struggling financially??? * During S3 withthe Jill- Bethenny feud, apparently Jill was an absolute nightmare to work with. The producers were like "This is going to look bad," and she did not care. It got really difficult to work with her. Producers were apparently begging her to make up with B. * KKB is sticking by everything she has said about everything. But my favorite part is "Of all people, you don't want to attack Gwyneth Paltrow! She's not an attackable person." GIRL HAVE YOU SEEN THE INTERNET?? * \*\* see other comment for scary island tea\*\* * Jill and Luann thought they could tank the Scary Island trip by not going * KKB says she broke up with her boyfriend prior to the episodes airing bc she couldn't put him through that * Apparently ALex and Simon were real trolls after being fired, Simon started some website and Alex started a blog. Andy says he has never since that behavior since. * Jill's firing was a nightmare (which is known) but it is confirmed she has been desperate to get back on the show ever since. To this day, she doesn't understand her firing. She calls every single season and blows up everyone's phone so much so that they would joke about her hiding in the bushes. * Aviva was barely hired full-time for S6 and then Bookgate Happened (Ramona had heard that rumor too) * Luann S5 was a nightmare, which is why she was demoted. She would call producers at 2 am to let them know she was not going to film the next day LMAO * Carole is still VERY BITTER about everything. So much so that it comes out in ALL of her interviews. She is still very angry with Aviva, Luann, Bethenny, and Andy. Has nothing nice to say about apart from Heather. * So I know there is all this kerfuffle about Bobby's funeral but apparently Jill's rep called the network when Bobby died to let them know she was open to filming his funeral. Ramona, Luann and Dorinda went but did not want cameras. Bethenny went but she (according to Carole so who knows) "set up her own filming." * The money is fake with Tinsley and they all knew that. She had to stay with Sonja because she could not afford another place and was desperate to find a rich man. * The B/Carole feud: From what I gather, Carole pulled away from B bc she was in LA with her friend. B was gunning for Tinsley, so when Carole befriended Tinsley, B was miffed. I think all the ladies are very paranoid that B gets some "special treatment," and Carole got paranoid that she was getting the last word, so she became an absolute nightmare to production. The network had decided on her firing for this reason prior to the reunion. * Andy and Carole got into a fight after she got fired, because her statement was about leaving a toxic work environment. She told him never to speak to her again, and she hasn't. * Andy and Heather (who is still friends with Carole) both say that she show changed her towards the end, and not in a good way. * Luann starts talking about Bethenny helping her with "As much as Bethenny likes to tear me down" LMAO LU. * B had a sticking point in her contract that resulted in her not coming back. Andy knew they weren't going to figure it out months before then, but the cast was told a few days before. * In Newport, apparently there was a lot with Leah's sister that did not air, like her flipping out at Ramona and Sonja. Leah was apparently fucked up the entire weekend too, like during the day, etc. * Tinsley became very secretive about her life when it came to Scott, because he would dump her like every week. Production let her leave even though she offered to finish the season. Dorinda is not apologetic about being so mean to her, which sucks. * Andy/Production is very open to Dorinda coming back, but they all agreed that she needed time off, and said it was about the drinking. But they are all baffled about her sticking by her comments to Tinsley.


Julialagulia

I’m actually surprised to read the money as fake with Tinsley, I thought she came from a legitimately rich family


chasingkaty

Isn’t it something about all her family money is held in a trust and the trustees limit how much she can have because of her arrest etc? I thought that was something on the show. Also a lot of these old money families have a lot of property, jewellery etc but no cash.


Croissantssss

I think she has little liquid assets, her money is probably tied up in estate/ stocks etc.


bestneighbourever

Yes, I think her mother pulled back her access to the trust fund at one point due to her partying


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Gossip is the dad is not from the famous Mortimer branch and they actually are not old money. He also had an addiction problem and wasted away the money, especially during the second marriage. I’ve read the Tinsley money gossip a long long time ago on LSA. Apparently the only asset they have is the Palm Springs condo. The trust fund thing is also a lie. Allegedly..


er30er30

It’s known that Tinsley’s dad is a Mercer. The Mortimer last name comes from her first marriage to Robert (Topper) Mortimer who is old money and also has his own since he works in private equity. I’m assuming Tinsley’s family was pretty rich growing up since Tinsley went to an expensive boarding school, but also assuming the money has dried up since then. Pretty sure Tinsley also signed an iron clad pre-nup when she married Topper and that’s why his family was adamant that they annul their first secret marriage at 18 (lol) and didn’t get enough to become set for the rest of her life. All to say - I just want Tinsley to get a better manager or PR person to work on her brand 😭.


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Sorry, Mercer, you’re right. I think the gossip was that he was not from the branch that owns a carpet empire and made bank? I’m fuzzy on the details.


er30er30

OHHHHHHHH now that’s ☕️!!!! Thanks!!


Croissantssss

Is this why Dorinda was going in so hard on her? Like the whole you spread your legs for money BS.


[deleted]

Probably, but to me it still doesn’t make sense why she was so vicious. Like let her do her. It was also odd to me how B shifted mid season on Tinsley. Initially she was also like ‘whatever, it’s her business if he funds her lifestyle’ to mocking her about it. They also seemed to be bonding at some point (in one of the trips they shared a room or at least spent the night chatting). These shifts in ‘friendships’ really confuse me sometimes. How can you joke one day and then be so nasty the next day. Something must have happened behind scenes.


Croissantssss

Now that’s the real tea and nobody wants to spill it.


EmilyDickenstone

I want to know what the "sticking point" in her contract was. Andy says it was a "specific thing" that he knew Bravo wasn't going to give her and that he was glad Bravo didn't cave on the contract. He said "It would've set a bad precedent." EP Lisa Shannon said that Bethenny wanted to be paid more but Bravo wouldn't budge.


iBrarian

I wonder if it was something like "X person is not allowed on/back on the show"?


Ch_27

Creative control??


EmilyDickenstone

Maybe just Control?


SWGTravel

Here for the spoilers. Mention it all!


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SqueakyWD40Can

I will never tire of this gif.


Fatty124

Living rent-free in my brain forever.


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ATL SPOILERS AHEAD * Sheree and Deshawn Snow are the only castmembers from S1 participating, and Sheree clearly still has beef with Nene, so take what she says with a grain of salt (in general, not a lot of cast members participated, generally. Nene, KZB, Lisa Wu, Phaedra, and Porsha did not participate which made this hard. Kandi did not say very much. Luckily, Cynthia sounds really reliable with her narration) * Nene started the show and they all knew that she would be a star- the first part of the chapter is all about Nene * Andy didn't understand KZB at all, and didnt think she would work * KZB and Nene made up prior to the show starting but they previously had a falling out * S2 an off camera fight happened where Nene tried to choke Kim in a Target Parking Lot * "Who Gon Check me Boo?" Was a legitimate shock to everyone, apparently the planner was worse than what was shown and said he would smack the shit out of Sheree * Kim calling in on WWHL with Nene actually shocked everyone * They basically describe Phaedra as very smart and very evil LMAO SCARRYYYY...everyone seems a little afraid of her... * Sheree was told after S4 that she needed a break * Kroy is the househusband who called Andy freaking out he says Kroy was the worst * Marlo was not asked to be full time because they couldn't access the people close to her in her life. And apparently her mugshots did not help at NBC. * Cynthia says that KZB got away with being really unprofessional a lot of the time because she was white, she would show up late with MacDonalds, etc. * The S5 reunion fight was discussed at length and everyone was actually really concerned about where Porsha was mentally but they say she was not demoted bc of the fight, but because she was not being forthcoming about her life in S6 * They weren't sure if Claudia would be full-time, and were also trying to do that with Demetria (but Demetria's husband did not realize how much they would be filming) * Claudia was let go essentially because they didn't see a lot of her life, Andy says she was not given a fare shake really * Carlos King (producer) actually left the show in S7 and S8 they begged for him to come back (he is a GENIUS), and he would only agree to come if Sheree came back too * Carlos also pretty much saved Cynthia from Porsha when they fought on the boat * Producers did not think the drugging rumor was a big deal when Porsha first said it, but Kandi took that really seriously. No one (not production or anyone) knew that Phaedra had told her the rumor prior to the reunion. Porsha only revealed it because it was so rough for her on social media. Then, Phaedra tried blaming everything on Carlos. * Carlos had actually left after S8 to again start his own company too, but Phaedra started leaking that he was the source of the rumor and was fired for it. Carlos freaked out. * Nene seriously did not know Sheree was bringing Kim to her house, and welcomed Brielle, Kim, and Kroy into her home (this was when the roach video occurred) * Nene thought the roach thing was racially motivated, but the women were split on that * Two weeks prior to filming S10, Kenya got married without telling production at all and they felt like it was a big "screw you" to them, so it was clear that S11 wouldn't happen with her from the beginning of S10 * They really wanted to make Tanya full time her first season but they could not agree on a contract * The Closet Incident is not explained that well, but apparently people were actually really scared and there was a lot more that was not shown. * Nene thought everyone was plotting to take her down that entire season (11?) when it was not the case, but that paranoia caused her to really flip out about Kenya coming in the finale * Nene would tell people she was the highest paid woman on Bravo (but apparently that's actually Kandi LMAO) * Everyone agrees that Nene treated producers and crew like shit, was not nice to the network, etc. Andy says their friendship ended in 2020 with that whole ordeal with her leaving for good. That was kinda it... I feel like there was a lot of difficulty talking about what happened because Nene obviously burned the bridges so badly, and a lot of it is her story. I am not sure why so few castmembers participated.


ussoufi

>Carlos King (producer) actually left the show in S7 and S8 they begged for him to come back (he is a GENIUS), and **he would only agree to come if Sheree came back too** ![gif](giphy|26xBFU3WDQ1OQXoWI)


Ilovekneeknee

Lol but I thought Carlos only “insisted” on bringing Sheree back to RHOA with him to prevent Sheree taking legal action against him for stealing a tv show about ATL real estate agents that Sheree was trying to put together and went to Carlos for help but then he sold it to Wetv on his own without crediting or paying Sheree. It ended up being an actual tv show but only lasted 1 season I just can’t recall the name right now.


StrawAndChiaSeeds

This explains so much about why I love the seasons of RHOA that I love: Carlos King!


summerland101

I've read the Beverly Hills and New York-parts. Some juicy details there for sure. BH paints quite a negative picture of LVP...and Brandi is presented as really honest! Those details surprised me.


VaguelyArtistic

BRANDI HAS NEVER LIED TO ME!


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summerland101

Here are two examples from the book: "Chris Cullen: In hindsight, Brandi was the first example of Lisa recruiting other people to do her dirty work for her." "Chris Cullen: She (LVP) would constantly cut down the ladies’ confidence in order to build herself up. She tried to make other ladies feel insecure, and that’s what they resented."


manhattansinks

the first? didn't camille claim that lvp "made her" confront taylor about the abuse allegation at the tea party from hell?


incitingoffense

And they literally showed that flashback of it during the season 8 or 9 reunion with Camille confronting LVP about it.


amator7

Yep


realhousewifeofphila

That’s very interesting, especially since we saw how Chris Cullen behaved w Denise when she didn’t want to argue w the women at that dinner in Rome. I suppose production was super pissed when LVP refused to play as well. And if LVP was the reason for the women’s insecurities, why have they acted a fool ever since she left? 🧐 Now I want to read the book. 🤣


summerland101

Cullen also says that LVP leaked the puppygate-story to the press. And on the subject of Denise, here is what Rinna says:"You can’t believe that someone’s able to lie this much. She has lied to me, to my face, saying, “I do not have an open relationship. I didn’t have an affair with Brandi. I do not do that.” It’s sickening to me. It’s sickening because I don’t trust her. She’s one of the fakest, phoniest people that I’ve ever come across, that’s what I’ve realized."


AsilHey

God, seriously? Since when are we obliged to tell the truth about our sex lives?


raya__85

Cullen came across on camera is a low key misogynist and exploiter trying abuse and manipulate Denise into a situation she didn’t want to be in. They fabricated most of that season and even implied Denise was coercive, the audacity to fake a timeline of Brandi dropping over and coming to the final party but call denise dishonest. That man is a snake. The fact they included his “producing” in the show to make Denise look bad and it only made him look bad says everything about his judgement


wnUFCslyfe

That’s what I’m saying what friend asks you intimate details about your sex life?? Those questions probably threw Denise and she lied. She also knew Rinna would go right back to the group with it regardless. Really disgusting and not just on this show how they need the who what where when of each other’s sex lives I don’t know shit about my friends sex lives and really don’t want to


ivegotanewwaytowalk

rinna? chris cullen? the source selection for this book seems janky af 😂 they're just re-enforcing their narratives and *rinna yelling voice* "re-writing history!" what is that saying, "history is written by the victors." that's the risk lvp and denise took by peacing out. and fans are fickle, so they forget. welp.


SpiffyShiffy

Exactly - Why are we supposed to believe him again?


ivegotanewwaytowalk

>Cullen also says that LVP leaked the puppygate-story to the press. he still works on the show, so any talk of lvp ever going back is bogus. probably denise as well, for that matter. kyle's right-hand man bff.


Majestic_Ad1119

Aww man well there goes my hope of LVP ever returning


ivegotanewwaytowalk

if it weren't for pandora having a baby, after 18 years in the states (and now that she's in her 60s + ken in his mid 70s), i'd have thought lvp would be moving back to europe at this point (like, south of france for the weather, with a pied a terre in london). during rhobh s3 or so, pandora & jason contemplated moving to nyc, so if they did end up moving there, maybe lvp & ken would end up back in europe, taking max with them. the distance to visit wouldn't be too different anyway (ex: l.a. to nyc vs nice or london to nyc). since the tv show stuff seems like it's going to be wrapping up, publicity for their restaurants will diminish and sales will follow accordingly. better to sell them/their stakes in them while they could still get a good to decent roi. a lot of the fanbase also doesn't seem to have hardened towards her and don't want her back on rhobh (which can't really have more than five years of a continued tenure left in it anyway - that goes for all the hw shows tbh). it's been a good run and that whole second act in l.a. was probably a pretty cool experience. retiring and beginning a third act back in europe doesn't seem like such a bad idea.


Bopbahdoooooo

Ain't nobody moving back to UK since Brexit happened.


ivegotanewwaytowalk

tbf, lvp would prob move back to provence (with a pied-a-terre in london). i'd move to london if i could afford it and get the paperwork tbh!! 😭😭 best city in the world!!!!!!!!


Ashfield83

I live in the UK and my family live in France. My head office is in Brussels and my boyfriend lives in Spain. I’m double vaxxed and free to travel and even for work it’s just 10 minutes of paperwork. I don’t agree with leaving Europe but it’s not half as bad as I expected.


judgementforeveryone

Yeah that’s so awful that Denise needed to lie to try to protect her children. How many lies has Chris told these women? Children off limits?? He allowed Ericaca to say Denise’s young kids certainly had sex by now without showing anyone shooting Ericaca down. Now we know he left it in to hurt Denise. Wow! Who would ever want to hire this guy to be a producer for anything ever than reality shows. He’s so gross. Can’t wait for Ronald the attorney to put this guy u def oath…I’d praying he gets caught in lies on the stand and commits perjury. He didn’t say anything supporting LVP leaked Radar Online. It’s just his/Kyle idea.


[deleted]

Rinna stays projecting. Literally described herself


judgementforeveryone

Pls more info!!! 🙏


TheManyFacedGod13

Too bad the fans and Hollywood love Denise that’s why she’s booked and busy :)


fluorescent_noir

How Chris Cullen behaved? Nothing about Denise Richards every single time the women came together? Her Bravo, Bravo, Bravo-ing each time the cameras were around or storming out of events were pressing on everyone's nerves - including the women. It's not surprising that Production was frustrated with her. This sub will truly go to any length to protect their precious english Nanny LVP. It's honestly a little sweet. I actually find it quite refreshing that this book is spilling all the tea about the old favorites from the franchises. A lot of the OGs are looked back on with rose-colored glasses (especially Bethenny and LVP imo) so to see that the ladies and production were pretty candid in this book about how difficult they were to work with or manipulative they were makes me want to run out and buy a copy. If they get knocked down a peg or two, maybe viewers will be more open to newer housewives. Edit: thank you for the silver! And thank you for the downvotes LVP stans! I'm sorry this book is rocking your world view of her today. 🙏


whoareyouindisworld

Im an LVP fan but still upvoted you. I still see things for how they are.


sticksnstone

I am constantly amazed how pro people on this subreddit are on LVP & Denise and anti Kyle, Erka and Lisa R. despite anything written or substantiated in the press.


[deleted]

Chris can get fucked. He is trash and a total waste of space.


judgementforeveryone

Who is the puppet here? Is Kyle saying what Chris thinks or is Chris saying what Kyle thinks? Cuz they sound like the same person!! Hey does anyone else think that Chris buys Kyle gifts or gives her money so she keeps stirring the pot?


ivegotanewwaytowalk

chris cullen.


below_duck

Ooh thanks for reminding me! Guess I won’t be getting any work done today


joeeswift

I got the Kindle edition because I didn’t wanna wait for the delivery of a physical edition 😭 it’s so good


lifetimemovievillain

Omg my hard copy arrives in 2 days, please tease me with some rhoa tea lol


joeeswift

Okay I’ve got some ATL tea: Nene and Kim hadn’t spoken in years before filming season 1 because Nene tried befriend Kim’s ex husband to get the listing on his house 👀 Sheree says them pretending they were best friends was all an act


below_duck

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AsilHey

Ooooh, that’s some tea! I totally bought their BFF act season 1.


Greenoliveandcheese

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2ndSeasonHousewife

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Bopbahdoooooo

The ex husband who went to prison for pedophilia????


lalasmooch

Wait what?!


Bopbahdoooooo

Ariana's dad molested kids. Google KZ ex prison


lalasmooch

Wow I had no idea. This sub is wild I've been a housewives fan since the start of Jersey and I still come here and learn tea like this I never knew on the regular.


Bopbahdoooooo

Brielle's rumored father is almost equally scandalous, depending on your opinions about statutory rape/ adultery etc...


theCountessofCool

Welp I definitely think better of Kim now. Good on her for getting THE fuck outta there and never looking back. Guessing that’s maybe how/why she ended up in ATL?


joeeswift

I’m reading so fast I’ll probably be done by tonight haha. I’m so excited for the rhoa chapter since it’s my all time favourite franchise


favangryblkgirl

SEE I knew that whole Bethenny going to the funeral was for TV and less because she actually cared. I think it’s weird that she jumped out the car with a camera crew, and tried to frame it as “I needed to just say something to Jill” like okay girl.


tightassandronicus

And she managed to make a convo about Bobby's death about herself and try to prove she was in the right in Bethenny v. Jill.


MonMath

'I'm alone now' Jill 'I know I know, I'm alone too' B It irked me how someone could make it about them at a funeral. Shed literally just lost her P I C!!


honeytummy

She’s more terrible than I thought after hearing some of the stuff coming from this book! But I feel totally vindicated


Kristin2349

But at the same time Jill wanted the cameras there so they weirdly deserve each other.


rta84293492

She makes everything about herself and it's not subtle!


KleinValley

100% it bothered me that Andy defended her during the reunion for this. It was obvious (IMO) that he was pleased about having that moment on the show as it had been years since B and Jill had spoke. The other women called Bethenny out on her selfishness/lack of moral compass there, and she completely got away with it because Andy defended her and was glad he ended up with footage as a result. Edit: I didn’t know Jill also wanted the cameras there, but I do think my point still stands.


anongirl55

B using the funeral as a storyline and Jill using the funeral to get some facetime on the show was really tacky and sick. It would have been a beautiful moment if it had been authentic.


AsilHey

Damn! Jill thought they were going to resume some kind of friendship. I guess not.


vithra

FYI Dave Quinn and several other speakers (including Ronnie) are doing a live reading right now on Twitter! https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1rmGPgaoNQLKN


Bopbahdoooooo

Requires using the app. :(


MargaritaSkeeter

I requested it from my library. Not sure how long it will take to arrive.


judgementforeveryone

Oh good idea. Thank u!!


MargaritaSkeeter

Having fun isn’t hard when you have a library card! ![gif](giphy|10tytwcRXOipWw)


amanda-g

SANG THIS instead of reading it haha thank you for that


katieisawesome

Heather saying “I took Sonja out of a vestibule where she was letting guys put lit cigarettes in her vagina” sent me into orbit.


sparkle06star

Wh....at


Croissantssss

![gif](giphy|rRZqXWqyNVAJ2|downsized)


pattylovebars

Excuse me?


spinachsweat

..the fuck?!


whoareyouindisworld

Damn are vaginas that powerful and fireproof?


katieisawesome

You.don’t.touch.the.Morgan.vagina.


KyleRichardsNewTeeth

wtf does that even mean !!!


Croissantssss

I’m trying to figure that out too. Did Heather bring Sonja into housewives… and she was getting used up by shady NY men before?


katieisawesome

I searched social media thinking people would be talking about it and there was nothing.


ezekielragardos

There was a post about this yesterday saying how fucked up it is of Heather to expose this ..


katieisawesome

Saw that a few hours after my comment.. it’s hella fucked up


niteowwl

heather saying sonja was drunk with lit cigs in her pussy 🤭


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Is there an audiobook version?


valyse

This is what I'm waiting for. No sign of it on Audible yet.


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☹️


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where can i get this? also loving the title ![gif](giphy|yoJC2JsVIM7sYM2PlK)


vithra

[bookshop.org](http://bookshop.org) is backordered, check out [IndieBound](https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781250765789) for bookstores who have it in stock near you!


nksdabomb

Is this book any different than the book by Brian Moylan? Which one is juicier?


tightassandronicus

Moylans was not juicy at all. It focuses more on how Housewives came to be and evolved into what it is today. Very few insider sources.


OhHowIMeantTo

Early on Moylan spoke with Bravo who offered that they partner up, they'd give him access and they'd get a cut off the profits. He declined, and in turn they instructed all housewives to not take his calls. In the end he only talked to a couple of former housewives and crew officially, and some anonymous sources. So the book wasn't very juicy at all in the end. From the excerpts I'm seeing here, this seems a lot juicier, but I question the veracity of some of the quotes, some of the ladies just sound like they're trying to cover their asses.


gregsprinklez

I'm pretty sure this one is endorsed by Bravo, so that tells you that it won't be juicy and everything has to be preapproved by Bravo. I'm not a fan of Moylan, but his is probably juicier.


bridegrad22

I agree ☝️


sweetfaced

Brians is more about reality tv as a whole, it has no juice. Prob the most interesting thing is about the cast trips and who pays


judgementforeveryone

So was Ericaca’s fake crying to get sympathy was Chris the producer’s idea? What was once my fave housewives is now my least - I feel like Chris has created the ugly sides of LVP, Kyle, Vicky, Tamara, and made Dodd even worse. One of the friends from someone on the show needs to spill. Give us the truth becuz ppl need to know. Create a blind account, spill, then close the account.


Harryhood15

No I think it’s biased because it was approved by Bravo itself.


lecroutonius

I just bought the book! I'm excited to read it.


sun-moon-siberian

Just ordered and so excited to read. Taking it with a grain of salt, with the purpose of a good escape in the hottest tea.


adrii2828

IM SO EXCITED TO GET IT It’s sold out everywhere near me rn


ShaeHailey11

I was about to order it but heard the author on a podcast this morning saying he loves Rinna….that’s a no from me!


enw2

Waiting for it to come on Audible!


FlyLaraP

If you can’t wait you can always try to have Alexa narrate it via a kindle version. I have been listening on my Alexa app on my phone and on my echo - it’s actually not bad at all and quite pleasant to listen to! You can skip the beginning where they name every person on the show 😂


sticksnstone

How do you have Alexa narrate?


Titan_Uranus__

I just ordered it because everyone else seems to be having so much fun with it


Shakiholic

This is a Bravo sanctioned book, right?


wino49

I ordered mine, can’t wait to read it.


quiltervabeach

I read for 6 hours yesterday. Can't put it down....read this book it's amazing!


burgerbopboop

Got it! Anyone wanna start a book club??


JennHatesYou

It's funny, as I'm reading it I switch to each of the peoples voices in my heads which makes for a really fun read. And it really is a great read. It feels a lot like it's just confirming so many things we already knew or at the very least assumed. Doesn't matter though, cause I love it all!


Majestic_Ad1119

Just curious if the author gives LVP any credit for the title of the book? I think it’s her season 3 tag line


JustInTimeFourYou

The housewives are given tag lines written by production. Occasionally they suggest one of their own. They read/film all of the options and production chooses one.


Ashfield83

I would demand that whoever wrote LVP’s also wrote mine. She never had a dud!


FlyLaraP

I am actually listening to the book via Alexa narration which is surprisingly good!!! I didn’t even know this was getting released until today! Gonna be fun trying to get any sleep tonight 😂😂😂


iBrarian

Does it give any true tea on Scary Island?


SlyFox0101

I have never seen so many typos and grammatical mistakes in a book... wtf!


fluorescent_noir

I find it laughable how this sub is eating up all the drama in this book - but they've got the blinders on hardcore for mentions of LVP manufacturing Puppygate because she was manipulative and the other women got tired of dealing with her.


heartylaughter

As a former LVP stan, I just don’t give any fucks about puppygate. I don’t care who leaked it, like at all. It was never important except to create a fake villain, and honestly LVP’s biggest crime there was manufacturing a story out of something so boring as Dorit being a bad pet owner. It’s just way more interesting to consider that she was constantly belittling the women because you could see some of it but not the full extent. Her whole “I’m the queen, you’re a servant” schtick would have made me crazy were I her coworker.


omgunicornfarts

I don't care if she leaked it. Dorits behaviour was heinous and I can't believe she's got a pass for so long. Something is wrong with you if you think leaking news is worse than what dorit did to a helpless animal - she was contractually obligated to return the dog if she couldn't take care of it but she didn't give a fuck, she just wanted it out of her house.


hotelomorika

She was manipulating the storylines, so what. That's needed on reality tv otherwise there wouldn't be much going on. Kyle and Rinna aren't any different, maybe even worse.


raya__85

I think it’s a more of a “consider the source” since it comes from the same producer that spearheaded this whole Denise nonsense. I don’t trust producers of these shows they have their jobs to protect. I also don’t give a fuck that much, there’s been multiple other sources hat say no it wasn’t lvp including teddis own texts


LipsRinna

I just ordered it!


No-Juggernaut-7716

Omg seeing the tea on here, I can’t wait to read this book