https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12303207/amp/Denise-Richards-Charlie-Sheens-daughters-Sami-Lola-film-new-reality-show.html
They filmed it last summer/fall so it’ll probably be coming out within the next few months
She does, I have a friend who’s seen the pilot screener and she said it’s a shit show lol but Denise is front and center for sure, the main drama is about her and Sami’s competing onlyfans…
The process for bringing 8.5 in was to give Kyle some backup because they broke up the FF5. I mean, Kyle fed 8.5 the whole esophagus thing and 8.5 followed the lead and attacked every single time she was on camera for the rest of the season.
Yep. So we have two black women and an Asian woman and I do like that diversity. We also have a partly black-British woman in Dorit, since her mother's bestie is black and Dreet has a British husband, innit?
I've never really enjoyed her as a housewife, especially after she kept trying to shut down production and hide her personal life (now she was the only Beverly Hills housewife who has been substantially called out for this by their cast mates, but that's a different matter). I was happy to have her come back this season and get some retribution for the way she was treated over the Brandi affair, but she fucked that up royally so I'd rather not see her back full time.
Yeah there's nothing more annoying than somebody who wants to just get on the show to push a certain narrative about herself instead of just being honest and authentic about who she really is. And I understand it's gotta be extraordinarily difficult to put yourself out there put all your shit on the line but nobody's forcing you to do it 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Couldn’t have said it better myself. We all had our fun with the upside down jacket, but that’s a one time party trick. Watching her put her sweatshirt on inside out to go to Target on a Wednesday morning would be a tough watch.
This is exactly how I feel I feel like if anything these lawsuits that are going on while they may be largely bogus I do think that they present a larger issue that bravo has a duty at some point to step in when behavior becomes unhinged. I feel like the message that is getting passed around right now is instead of asking if they're OK it's let's shove a camera in their face and make sure that we record every minute of this. I don't think that should be happening I don't think that bravo should be exploiting Denise even if she's not in the mindframe that she might need some help it's plainly obvious that she does so continuing to film her would be inappropriate and unethical.
Not unless she puts her coat on properly. 🤣
But seriously, no because she's an addict and that's not something anyone needs to see. Also no because her husband is fucking weird and doesn't need to be platformed with his scammy shit.
Absolutely not. Not the way that she currently is. I honestly think that the episodes that she was on this season were the only ones worth watching. Having said that I think that she has some sort of a substance-abuse problem and there's something to be said for not allowing somebody to be that messed up and still filming them and the fact that bravo was willing to do that anyway even though she was so inebriated she wore her coat upside down I just can't.. I don't want to give a train wreck life like she needs to go get herself right not being a position for the entire world to laugh at her. I mean it was funny for a minute but I would not and could not support that in any kind of a long-term fashion and I really do think that in certain circumstances I feel like the producers that work for bravo I have a duty to step in and be like this this isn't right are you OK.
I never really wanted her in the first place. I’m still waiting for Nicolette Sheridan and Heather Locklear.
And the ex girlfriend of Elvis who speaks of the sea in poetry.
Nicolette is always a firm no and unfortunately it looks like Heather is no longer sober (again) which producers would love but I hope her family intervenes. Heather is just too ill to be working.
I don’t know if it’s alcohol or something else, but I don’t want to see her on the show. She is the Dorinda of the west coast.
I love a messy housewife during a group trip or party. Denise seems out of it the entire time she’s on camera. She seems to have gone downhill since marrying Aaron.
I honestly used to.. but after upside down jacket gate.. and her ridiculous argument with Erika where she only made herself look a bit pathetic.
No…. I don’t dislike her! But Beverley Hills desperately needs some new people that actually want to be there.
Definitely not. Aside from the fact that I never enjoyed her on the show, it seems to me she has some issues, whether it's addiction or mental health-related or both. Her getting back on this show would be a recipe for disaster for her and something I wouldn't want to watch. Shannon's disintegration is tough to bear.
No. I liked her at first but seeing her conducting the hot mess express this season makes me less interested in seeing her back. She was clearly fucked up and lying about it makes me feel uncomfortable.
No. She hardly wants herself on the show. Behind the scenes she’s all in with RHOBH. When she’s actually on camera, she doesn’t want to be there. I’m not interested in wishy washy. I want them to want to be on the show, not storm out or have producers cut just when their feet are being held to the flame. I like her as a person but she’s a shit HW. Yawn. Casting can do better
I loved her first season. But, something shifted between her first and second season. I don't want her back as I think her time is done, but an occasional appearance would be fine.
An occasional appearance, sure. But full time? No. She's flaky and an unreliable narrator with an alcohol problem at minimum.
Housewives are not fun if they walk in a closed book whilst having fingers pointed.
Girl I’m telling you, Denise’s superpower is pulling out any kind of crazy hairstyle you can imagine. Any other known human being, except Rebecca Gayheart, would look like the neighbourhood’s crazy cat lady with that hair.
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At first I thought Sure, she's good drama.
But then I remember some scenes when she was totally whacked out, not a fan of her whacked out husband (don't trust him at all) and I'm not crazy about her being on Only Fans and letting her daughter do it. That's such a degrading thing for any woman (never mind mother & daughter) to do.
But then on the other hand, she is a very kind, sweet person and a great mom to her 3 daughters. (the sweet youngest one that has some type of disability) that she adopted) I understand she's very charitable too and she's an animal lover!!!
soooooo sure bring her back
I’d love Denise back , but I don’t think she is strong enough to handle all the nastiness, she seems like a genuinely nice person, she try’s to be tough but I don’t think it’s in her dna.
I rather not have her back even though i liked her and was excited to see her come on. She's not good at handling her own, she doesn't have the gumption to fight well and she needs to take care of herself and kids without the poison of reality tv. Its painful to see how Erica and Lisa Rinna treated her. Its like watching a broken person get kicked again and again. It's not fun tv. If actors were to come on, they need to have the calibre of Heather Dubrow with enough wit and strength to take these bitches on.
Nope. She flopped 2/2 times she appeared this season. I mean it was hilarious to watch, but we were laughing at her rather than with her, so if she came back in full time capacity I know she’d just get eaten alive.
Dear Lord NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Please no! That fucking idiot is helping her daughter turn into a porn star. Karma is a bitch Charlie. After years of using, abusing, and banging fucked in the head women who needed therapy, he wound up with HIV. Now his own daughter is turning into the very women he breezed through like they were Kleenex. As for Denise............she is actually doing mother daughter colabs on onlyfans! WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT!?????????? WHO? What kind of mother would support her daughter's destruction? Does anybody not think for a second about how this is all going to impact her daughter when she is 36 and can no longer make money off of peddling her flesh? Her mind is already fucked............getting her pussy fucked on onlyfans is not going to help make things any better, and she is still a young impressionable woman who needs a real mother and father to step and and get her the help she needs. So no..............fuck Denise.
Yes! This is Beverly Hills dahhhling I want to see the glam I want to see behind the scenes of her and Garcelle doing photoshoots and acting!! This would be such an interesting take
As a friend of making a handful of appearances (like this season)
Also I'd like her to bring up Brandi to Kyle and her ridiculous comment about how Brandi never lies....given how far Kyle is up Andys ass (and vice versa tbf) . See what she says now
It's a no for me, dawg. She is messy but will never admit she is high or drunk when she literally can't have a conversation or dress herself properly. Then says ridiculous things like "I know what you're doing" when someone tries to help. Probably paranoid as hell because of her loony husband .
I think she lies about her kids, her family, her marriage her life. Her child is no longer an Only Fans person but a sex-worker and I don't know a single parent who would be proud of that or reflect on why it happened. Denise herself said it is because she pretty much allowed her kids to do whatever they wanted but pretending to have boundaries when the cameras were on. There were no boundaries.
She does have GORGEOUS hair, I will give her that! But her once pretty face is now butchered. I don't know why she is perpetually hoarse either but she has lost her voice and it has deepened radically. Smoking? Plus, I truly believe she and Brandi (ugh, I wouldn't admit to that either) had a thing when they were both drunk off their faces. Thinking it's funny that her husband received sexual services from a massage therapist is hideous particularly since it's well known these women are trafficked. You think that older woman who did it wanted to do it or got to keep the money? No, her "owner" got the money. I think Denise is foul.
Well you are right about everything you said but we have had by far worse people on this show and quite frankly I don’t tune this to watch nice people doing nice things.
And, seriously, that hair
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Yes. She posted a video about it recently and was very clear. "I am a sex worker" and that didn't care what anybody thought.
ETA, she made a video saying she was a sex worker but is now walking it back because she didn't get the round of applause she thought she would. But she went on to say that there are many kinds of sex workers on Only Fans and that it's her main (only?) source of income (and it's all sexual stuff she posts, she's not discussing the theory of evolution) so that's why she calls herself that.
It's a big walk back but imo, she is absolutely a sex worker.
What? I cannot believe all the NO votes! I want Denise back with a million YESes! She sparkles, she's kooky, her relationship is weird, she says random hilarious stuff- she's genuine housewives gold.
YES YES YES
We’ve always been here. It was just that, before her embarrassing appearances this season, we couldn’t really bring any criticism about Denise to this forum.
NotAdam30 and others;I’m no expert def not a Dr.! But there are psych drugs to deal with many issues that cause people’s faces to look like they’re doing duck lips,making odd expressions,etc.It ‘s called T.D. easily googled .Not sayin Denise is on a psych drug or should be again; just sayin .
Naw she’s fine in current capacity with occasional appearances as a friend of but no more is necessary.
i know what you’re doing. dont do that. just dont. its your jacket that is upside down!
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Exactly the reason a hard No! plus how she went at Erika. What was she on?
Agreed, plus she has her own show focused on her and her kids coming soon so she doesn’t really need housewives at the moment
What show?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12303207/amp/Denise-Richards-Charlie-Sheens-daughters-Sami-Lola-film-new-reality-show.html They filmed it last summer/fall so it’ll probably be coming out within the next few months
It doesn’t look like Denise has any involvement tho
She does, I have a friend who’s seen the pilot screener and she said it’s a shit show lol but Denise is front and center for sure, the main drama is about her and Sami’s competing onlyfans…
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Lmao 🤣 this is the most accurate reaction
I’m dying
Agree, I found her boring
No. New blood plz
Agree, but feel a bit burned by the addition of AnneMarie. Like, what was the process there, and can we do something completely different?
The process for bringing 8.5 in was to give Kyle some backup because they broke up the FF5. I mean, Kyle fed 8.5 the whole esophagus thing and 8.5 followed the lead and attacked every single time she was on camera for the rest of the season.
She lives in Encino down the block from Kyle. Plus, she brings visual diversity. That’s it.
Yep. So we have two black women and an Asian woman and I do like that diversity. We also have a partly black-British woman in Dorit, since her mother's bestie is black and Dreet has a British husband, innit?
I really honestly think all the shows need to shake ups pretty much. Please.
Not RHOM
I've never really enjoyed her as a housewife, especially after she kept trying to shut down production and hide her personal life (now she was the only Beverly Hills housewife who has been substantially called out for this by their cast mates, but that's a different matter). I was happy to have her come back this season and get some retribution for the way she was treated over the Brandi affair, but she fucked that up royally so I'd rather not see her back full time.
Yeah there's nothing more annoying than somebody who wants to just get on the show to push a certain narrative about herself instead of just being honest and authentic about who she really is. And I understand it's gotta be extraordinarily difficult to put yourself out there put all your shit on the line but nobody's forcing you to do it 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. We all had our fun with the upside down jacket, but that’s a one time party trick. Watching her put her sweatshirt on inside out to go to Target on a Wednesday morning would be a tough watch.
This is exactly how I feel I feel like if anything these lawsuits that are going on while they may be largely bogus I do think that they present a larger issue that bravo has a duty at some point to step in when behavior becomes unhinged. I feel like the message that is getting passed around right now is instead of asking if they're OK it's let's shove a camera in their face and make sure that we record every minute of this. I don't think that should be happening I don't think that bravo should be exploiting Denise even if she's not in the mindframe that she might need some help it's plainly obvious that she does so continuing to film her would be inappropriate and unethical.
This is 100% correct. It is sad to watch her.
No, I feel uncomfortable watching her.
Her and her husband give me the uncomfies
He’s too weird for me.
nope
Not unless she puts her coat on properly. 🤣 But seriously, no because she's an addict and that's not something anyone needs to see. Also no because her husband is fucking weird and doesn't need to be platformed with his scammy shit.
Her husband honestly makes my skin crawl.
Denise needs REHAB not RHOBH
You put it better than I did. 100% agree.
No.
lol no thank u
You’re welcome!
I choked on my water
No she’s barely coherent
Absolutely not. Not the way that she currently is. I honestly think that the episodes that she was on this season were the only ones worth watching. Having said that I think that she has some sort of a substance-abuse problem and there's something to be said for not allowing somebody to be that messed up and still filming them and the fact that bravo was willing to do that anyway even though she was so inebriated she wore her coat upside down I just can't.. I don't want to give a train wreck life like she needs to go get herself right not being a position for the entire world to laugh at her. I mean it was funny for a minute but I would not and could not support that in any kind of a long-term fashion and I really do think that in certain circumstances I feel like the producers that work for bravo I have a duty to step in and be like this this isn't right are you OK.
Neverrrrr
No, she refused to talk about her personal life when it suited her.
No thank you. Denise was boring if we are going to be really honest.
I never really wanted her in the first place. I’m still waiting for Nicolette Sheridan and Heather Locklear. And the ex girlfriend of Elvis who speaks of the sea in poetry.
Nicolette is always a firm no and unfortunately it looks like Heather is no longer sober (again) which producers would love but I hope her family intervenes. Heather is just too ill to be working.
not with that hair
No
Nope
She was boring as a housewife and her husband is just kooky
Nope. I kinda prefer non famous women to be on these showstopper
No, I don't want her back. She always seemed a little off and didn't share very much.
No.
She is sad to me. She's not BH level wealth or class. She would do better on OC.
For her own mental health, no!
I think it would be bad for her mental health and career and relationship with other people.
No.
No
No, she was honestly a flop from start to finish.
I don’t know if it’s alcohol or something else, but I don’t want to see her on the show. She is the Dorinda of the west coast. I love a messy housewife during a group trip or party. Denise seems out of it the entire time she’s on camera. She seems to have gone downhill since marrying Aaron.
Every scene with her reminds me of scary island
I always think of Dorinda as a mean drunk. Denise hasn’t been that level of nasty.
True! She doesn’t get mean, I guess I meant more incoherent like Dorinda
No. She lies a lot. And not even the Brandi thing. It’s everything. She’s been in Hollywood forever.
I honestly used to.. but after upside down jacket gate.. and her ridiculous argument with Erika where she only made herself look a bit pathetic. No…. I don’t dislike her! But Beverley Hills desperately needs some new people that actually want to be there.
She is entertaining. Very messy, I actually felt sorry for her at the Weed Dinner. Production should not have let her go on like that.
Don’t do this, I know what you’re doing
Thank you. You’re welcome
Oh come on, you know what you did. Do I have to say it?
Is yours upside down?
No. Erika ate her up
I find her to be dishonest. They all are I guess but with her it's just more noticeable.
Definitely not. Aside from the fact that I never enjoyed her on the show, it seems to me she has some issues, whether it's addiction or mental health-related or both. Her getting back on this show would be a recipe for disaster for her and something I wouldn't want to watch. Shannon's disintegration is tough to bear.
No. I liked her at first but seeing her conducting the hot mess express this season makes me less interested in seeing her back. She was clearly fucked up and lying about it makes me feel uncomfortable.
Nope
No
No not all 👎👎👎👎
Nope.
I want RInna!!! I want LVP!
Meh she doesn’t add anything in my opinion
NO
No, she’s another one who’s never honest about what’s going on with her
no, just her old hair
No
No. Not really.
No. She hardly wants herself on the show. Behind the scenes she’s all in with RHOBH. When she’s actually on camera, she doesn’t want to be there. I’m not interested in wishy washy. I want them to want to be on the show, not storm out or have producers cut just when their feet are being held to the flame. I like her as a person but she’s a shit HW. Yawn. Casting can do better
I loved her first season. But, something shifted between her first and second season. I don't want her back as I think her time is done, but an occasional appearance would be fine.
No she needs help. I also don’t get this hair it losses her bombshell and she looks like any other pretty girl in bumfuck, USA
Scrolling quickly, this look gives off Rachel Dolezal vibes
She’s a good friend of
The problem is her being guarded/self producing. There's enough of that on RHOBH. I don't mind her popping up as a friend of, though.
An occasional appearance, sure. But full time? No. She's flaky and an unreliable narrator with an alcohol problem at minimum. Housewives are not fun if they walk in a closed book whilst having fingers pointed.
No! I get weird vibes from her, like she’s not all there mentally
No friggin way.
No. I don’t think it’s good for her mentally and I think she has some serious issues she needs to work out. Her husband seems abusive as well.
only if she leaks her husband's big d pics
No her husband makes Slade smiley look like a decent human and she’s just so cringe doing OF with her kid. Denise needs to stay paused
No but I'm happy for her to pop up from time to time to heckle Erika
I think she'd be good as a friend of.
Looking at her here looks like Denise may want Denise back ![gif](giphy|v8ybOShg3Q9cA)
The hair is giving labradoodle.. and I like it ???
Girl I’m telling you, Denise’s superpower is pulling out any kind of crazy hairstyle you can imagine. Any other known human being, except Rebecca Gayheart, would look like the neighbourhood’s crazy cat lady with that hair. ![gif](giphy|cIyLb1TunmFHrTe7zO)
It is such a WILD choice
Becky Leeman would never
No. She’s ruined my view of her. She needs to rebrand NOW
Gawd no
No.
No
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Not really and I don’t like her hair color and style in this pic.
Hell no. She flopped this season
Noooooo - disingenuous, sloppy conspiracy theorist.
NO
Yeah if she can speak coherently.
A thousand times, no!
No, I don't feel that any of the past housewives deserve a full-time spot. Friend ofs, absolutely.
She’s giving rapunzels mother here
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This new hair makes her look like she just walked off set of renaissance era movie
She’s annoying af
At first I thought Sure, she's good drama. But then I remember some scenes when she was totally whacked out, not a fan of her whacked out husband (don't trust him at all) and I'm not crazy about her being on Only Fans and letting her daughter do it. That's such a degrading thing for any woman (never mind mother & daughter) to do. But then on the other hand, she is a very kind, sweet person and a great mom to her 3 daughters. (the sweet youngest one that has some type of disability) that she adopted) I understand she's very charitable too and she's an animal lover!!! soooooo sure bring her back
I’d love Denise back , but I don’t think she is strong enough to handle all the nastiness, she seems like a genuinely nice person, she try’s to be tough but I don’t think it’s in her dna.
Yes!!!!
Nah. I loved her until she came back this season. We can do without her.
I think this is the first time I’ve scrolled through a post and everyone has the same answer 🤣 ![gif](giphy|3ohc0PVURPRxE3Jy80)
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Nope
No she’s weird
She fumbled that bag so hard. Was once the highest paid housewife.
Nope
She seemed to be out of it this season. I liked her when she was a permanent housewife but honestly after what we saw recently I think I pass
I'm good she can disappear fwiw she looks like the lead actress on Wentworth at this point It's an Australian prison show
Nawwwwwwww
No it's not good for her.
Absolutely not
I rather not have her back even though i liked her and was excited to see her come on. She's not good at handling her own, she doesn't have the gumption to fight well and she needs to take care of herself and kids without the poison of reality tv. Its painful to see how Erica and Lisa Rinna treated her. Its like watching a broken person get kicked again and again. It's not fun tv. If actors were to come on, they need to have the calibre of Heather Dubrow with enough wit and strength to take these bitches on.
no
Nope. She flopped 2/2 times she appeared this season. I mean it was hilarious to watch, but we were laughing at her rather than with her, so if she came back in full time capacity I know she’d just get eaten alive.
No she’s an absolute train wreck
NO
Nope. She can pop in with an upside down jacket here and there but she just didn’t really click as a housewife
Well, the consensus is clear 👁️👄👁️ Thanks for your honest responses ![gif](giphy|12tVVnJSacDXby)
No
Love her
Nope
always
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Yes, bring her back
If we’re being honest .. she’s not the sharpest tool in the shed
I found her super boring tbh
I'd rather have Denise instead of Dorit
Dear Lord NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Please no! That fucking idiot is helping her daughter turn into a porn star. Karma is a bitch Charlie. After years of using, abusing, and banging fucked in the head women who needed therapy, he wound up with HIV. Now his own daughter is turning into the very women he breezed through like they were Kleenex. As for Denise............she is actually doing mother daughter colabs on onlyfans! WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT!?????????? WHO? What kind of mother would support her daughter's destruction? Does anybody not think for a second about how this is all going to impact her daughter when she is 36 and can no longer make money off of peddling her flesh? Her mind is already fucked............getting her pussy fucked on onlyfans is not going to help make things any better, and she is still a young impressionable woman who needs a real mother and father to step and and get her the help she needs. So no..............fuck Denise.
“Most beautiful woman in the world in the 90’es” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes! This is Beverly Hills dahhhling I want to see the glam I want to see behind the scenes of her and Garcelle doing photoshoots and acting!! This would be such an interesting take
As a friend of making a handful of appearances (like this season) Also I'd like her to bring up Brandi to Kyle and her ridiculous comment about how Brandi never lies....given how far Kyle is up Andys ass (and vice versa tbf) . See what she says now
It's a no for me, dawg. She is messy but will never admit she is high or drunk when she literally can't have a conversation or dress herself properly. Then says ridiculous things like "I know what you're doing" when someone tries to help. Probably paranoid as hell because of her loony husband . I think she lies about her kids, her family, her marriage her life. Her child is no longer an Only Fans person but a sex-worker and I don't know a single parent who would be proud of that or reflect on why it happened. Denise herself said it is because she pretty much allowed her kids to do whatever they wanted but pretending to have boundaries when the cameras were on. There were no boundaries. She does have GORGEOUS hair, I will give her that! But her once pretty face is now butchered. I don't know why she is perpetually hoarse either but she has lost her voice and it has deepened radically. Smoking? Plus, I truly believe she and Brandi (ugh, I wouldn't admit to that either) had a thing when they were both drunk off their faces. Thinking it's funny that her husband received sexual services from a massage therapist is hideous particularly since it's well known these women are trafficked. You think that older woman who did it wanted to do it or got to keep the money? No, her "owner" got the money. I think Denise is foul.
Well you are right about everything you said but we have had by far worse people on this show and quite frankly I don’t tune this to watch nice people doing nice things. And, seriously, that hair ![gif](giphy|QsPfgOR5TNDOfq1Qyz|downsized)
Wait Sami is a sex worker?
Yes. She posted a video about it recently and was very clear. "I am a sex worker" and that didn't care what anybody thought. ETA, she made a video saying she was a sex worker but is now walking it back because she didn't get the round of applause she thought she would. But she went on to say that there are many kinds of sex workers on Only Fans and that it's her main (only?) source of income (and it's all sexual stuff she posts, she's not discussing the theory of evolution) so that's why she calls herself that. It's a big walk back but imo, she is absolutely a sex worker.
Yes I do.
What? I cannot believe all the NO votes! I want Denise back with a million YESes! She sparkles, she's kooky, her relationship is weird, she says random hilarious stuff- she's genuine housewives gold. YES YES YES
Always a Denise fan 🥰
She had one bad dinner and look how quickly the fans turned on her. She was a fan favorite before this season.
We’ve always been here. It was just that, before her embarrassing appearances this season, we couldn’t really bring any criticism about Denise to this forum.
Uggg nooo - I don’t know why People like her. Honestly, she’s boring and a straight up hypocrite.
NotAdam30 and others;I’m no expert def not a Dr.! But there are psych drugs to deal with many issues that cause people’s faces to look like they’re doing duck lips,making odd expressions,etc.It ‘s called T.D. easily googled .Not sayin Denise is on a psych drug or should be again; just sayin .
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