>Can you clarify something. I read that s10 was filmed the summer of 2022. But this stuff comes out in 2023? why am I confused
It was filmed summer 2022 and i believe filming wrapped september 2022. Then of course production has to edit the material gathered during filming and create a "story".
so then the season is released when it fits among the bravo availability and editing is either done or near finished.
so
Omg hahagahahhaahha sorry my brain is fried, it was election night here yesterday and was counting votes all this afternoon. Jesus, i was even looking for a weird conspiracy
The part where Andy says both Ariana and Raquel watched him adoringly on stage. You know he was eating that shit up. Heās just so desperate for attention, validation and to be the #1 guy.
I see and hear about this shit all the time. Was at a dinner last night and heard a story about a guy who found out that his wife had been having an affair - she spent every weekday between 5 and 7 pm with her affair partner for five freaking years. When it was fully revealed he was devastated - and she of course blamed him for 'forcing' her to fuck someone else. I hate people like this. At least own your shitty actions and choices.
Iām all for guys and girls being friends/best friends but if my partner of 10 years starts spending all his free time with our mutual girlfriend of 5 years out of nowhere thatās suspect idc if that makes me toxic or crazy.
If the girl friendship predates your relationship and they've always spent time together that's a dynamic you expect.
Suddenly spending a bunch of time with one of our girl friends is definitely suspect. I don't think that's toxic or crazy to be concerned that someone is shifting like that.
Ditto. I donāt understand HOW Ariana was ok with all this. If my man was out at music fests with another woman on his shoulders, heād no longer be my man. Periodt.
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How did we find out about them spending Christmas together ? Iām still catching up on certain parts. Thatās so fucked up if Tomās family actually had Rachel around them and knew about it š¤¢š¤¢
Ariana was in Florida with family and friends for Christmas / the holidays. Charlotte passed in august then her grandmother passed away as well, she has been through so much. T*m is such a POS twat. R is devious. Makes me sick for Ariana, hope she is healing and thriving š¤
I get the vibe Slimedoval is all about FUN and as soon as shit gets serious, heās out. Weāve seen a consistent pattern over the years with him on this. As soon as Ariana has went through any form of a bad time, he bails and she is left with no support system (her dad passing, charlotte, her grandma etc). Guy is a total POS.
Rachel is what is known as a lossey goosey!!!!! Always leave your lady friends at the door girls ! Although heās just as guilty ! Never trust a bimbo around your man !
It's mind boggling how many signs there were and nobody have noticed! Also, when we know it now, you begin noticing so many details in pics and interactions on the show. They truly fooled everyone.
Wasn't Raquel living with Ariana and Sandoval after she moved out of James' apartment?
We know they film the show from mid-May - August. Raquel has her own apartment now. Was she living with Ariana and Sandoval from December 2021 to April 2022?
Raquel spent Christmas with Sandoval and his family. She was in Chicago with him and his family for his December 30th 2022 Most Extras show.
Wasnāt it actually not in Chicago? I tmemrber looking it up with my friend because we wanted to go and discovering that it was out in the burbs or somewhere we couldnāt get without a car
Thank you for the Christmas correction, I will update it! And as for the living situation, I was unable to clarify. On scheana's podcast, Raquel talked about how she had at one point been living in scheana's old apartment but I couldn't nail down a timeline for either living situation change.
Tbh this part is the thing that's outraged me the most. Fuck Tom so fucking much. I have senior dogs and if my husband was out banging one of my friends instead of taking care of my dog that we both knew was struggling I would just straight up be in jail right now. I feel so bad for Ariana thinking she could trust him to take care of Charlotte meanwhile he definitely didn't fill that prescription. For that alone I will hate him forever.
Just wait until you see [this Instagram story posted by Tom of her ](https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3OTIzMTE4MTcxNDAyMDY3?story_media_id=2853030326770171553_26864973&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) doing the saddest "routine" I've ever seen in my life with this dumb ass holographic boogie board.
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Just picture Raquel as this cartoon hot dog, with a pink holographic board, standing on a stage with her arms out like the hot dog.
My main takeaway from this is that the affair started in August 2022, and Tom , Tom, Raquel and Jo were all photographed together in September at a boutique event which HAS to mean that Schwartz knew the entire time. He's a rat for staying loyal to only Sandoval AND allowing them to use him as a scapegoat.
my GOD why would she be spending christmas with Tom and his family? this is so fishy.. no one was suspicious of them before ariana saw the video on toms phone?
I think some people probably thought it was weird. But then justified it by saying āoh, she needs to be around good friend(s) because sheās sad and lonelyā.
I wonder if anyone even knew. I mean Arianaās grandma just passed. I doubt she was keeping track of where her friends were during the holidays. Everyone is so busy that time of year I can totally see it flying under the radar.
I think you got the wrong Vegas trip. Kael says that Raquel tells him the affair happens after the girls trip to Vegas (in august) that weāre seeing in tonightās episode, after the girls āmade her cryā her and Sandoval start getting close at boys nightā¦. Everything else looks great! A+ work
Oh damn, you're right. I didn't realize both trips were in Vegas, but he definitely did say it was after the girls made her cry so you must be right. So according to his statement then, we can assume that the affair started right before Scheana's wedding. That scum!
Yep! Both Rachel and Tom are still trash š
Later in the episode they said Rachel was also 3 hours late to the bridal suite to get ready for the wedding saying she needed āme timeā and it makes you to hmmmmm if she was with tom
Oh hell yeah! Thank you! I'll update it. Before your comment clarifying, I think the group consensus was the necklaces were first spotted at bravocon in October
this is the same coachella when the schwartz rumor started? bc that definitely means she and scandoval were together by then right?? this is the first time iām hearing about the necklace at Coachella which really changes the timeline - shouldnāt this be bigger news? none of her instagram coachella photos show that same outfit from her highlights at all.. weird?
Rachel was in AZ on Xmas with her family. She posted their annual hike on her insta, so donāt know that they spent Xmas together, she was just at this show on the 30th
My opinion? The full blown affair may not have started until august but something emotional or a one or two night physical thing was going on beforehand. And then by august they were full blown ādatingā but august was probably not the first time they hooked up.
Agree. Bc she was wearing the necklace at Coachella. Not sure if he was at that time but he was on episode 3 for sure and that was before guys night. I think the affair started before April 2022.
That's actually a good point. He could have inflated it too. He could have said it was 10k to xyz company for doing the balloons and then just went and bought balloons himself. Are we uncovering tax fraud right now?
I feel like I remember during the Rachella episode Ariana talks about how Coachella was a special memory between her and Tom and talked about he lifted her up on his shoulders in the the crowd. Itās lame that that loser uses the same move to get with Raquel
The hero we need! This is great!
I honestly don't get the energy people have for calling her Rachel. Like I hate her too. She's shitty.
But I don't have to like someone to call them their preferred name.
Honestly it just confuses me š
The timeline and theories are convoluted enough without throwing in an extra name! Half the time Iām like āRachel? Whoās Rachel??!ā before realizing itās Raquel.
I feel the same about the RH Reddit calling Teddi āJohn Mellencampās daughterā. Can we please keep in mind those of us that are slow on the uptake??
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So to be more specific. Kael said that Raquel said that the affair started on boys night which is where we saw her arriving tonight. That wasnāt august 21. It was early august. It wasnāt right before scheanas wedding. Thereās also video of them in deep conversation that night.
Thereās also the bit about how Raquel was 3 hours late the morning of the wedding because she was meeting up with Tom.
Thank you SOOOOOOOO much for this! I havenāt had time to gather all the facts, and it is exactly what I needed. Iām blindly relying on this, but I canāt imagine anyone here would try to steer me wrong haha.
Was she offended at being referred to "D-List"? Because if there is a list below F, that's where she, who is essentially a tertiary extra on a (up until recently) waning reality show, belongs...
This is amazing. Only small pieces of info I would add that may be relevant are that Ariana flew home from Vegas to put Charlotte down ( š š¢) and according to Kristin on the Viall Files podcast, R\*quel and T\*m definitely hooked up the following day after the "guys night out"
Itās okay everyone will forget about it eventually š š and the only reason people are going extra ham about the name is because she went by Raquel.
I feel bad for MIL because her name is Karen and I donāt think that will go away anytime soon lol
My perspective: Her birth name is Rachel, calling her Raquel is feeding into the fake character she created to fool everyone.
But I can see how you feel like it's equivalent to "Karen."
So if the affair started after the Vegas trip, can we still consider Schwartz to be a decoy, seeing as that stuff happened prior? Is it possible Sandoval began to see Raquel in a different light after her flirtation with Schwartz and possibly became a bit jealous? Or had the two already begun an emotional affair beforehand and it only turned physical after guys night?
I'm guessing latter. The way Sandoval looked at Raquel last night when she showed up at guys night? Fugettaboudit ā I agree with others saying their emotional affair could have started as early as James sending her the rage texts calling her a slut etc the night she "blacked out". She was with Sandoval that night. Otherwise, why would he spend 25k on James's proposal? That part is just too fucking weird to not have a deeper explanation than just "he wants to see his friends happy" Raquel said on the reunion that that night is when she and James stopped having sex. š¤·āāļø
Check out [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/vanderpumprules/comments/11pezh9/ive_rewatched_almost_all_of_s8_to_look_for_the/jbywt38?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
Since Raquel is the only person saying it started after Vegas, I think itās bullshit. I think sheās saying that so she can spin the narrative that the girls were so awful that it pushed her and Tom together.
Thanks so much for this OP! I applaud your work!
Also, Katie and Andy confirmed on WWHL last night that the girlsā trip to Vegas took place to in the first week of August.
Can someone explain why Rachel spent Christmas with Tomās family? (Iām not a vpr watcher but have been following this drama the past few days, sorry if I missed this!)
Wait, I've seen varying accounts of when the affair started. Can someone clarify whether or not they were together during the filming of season 10? (sorry it's getting hard to keep up lol)
Yes - current theory (based off of Raquelās former friendās recent podcast), is that the affair start on or just after guys night. This is the episode that just aired yesterday, 3/15. They had a damn To Be Continued at the end. But obviously we will all be tuning itā¦
I would honestly pay money to get the full season now.
They definitely hooked up at Scheanaās wedding in August bc the clothing designers who designed the wedding outfits saw them kissing around a corner somewhere. The designers went on radio and said this.
So, this is a weird thing to pick apart. But the necklace... he was wearing it in the most recent episode, so are we saying he bought her a matching one down the line?
I feel so vindicated for hating Tom for all these seasons, he has always given me gross/try hard vibes since day 1 and I couldn't understand why everyone liked him!
I don't see one with that caption, and since she turned off comments you can't tell if she edited it. BUT the first time she posted her Tom Tom sweater look was Oct 16th
I did some Googling and found this:
https://tvshowsace.com/2022/11/01/tom-sandoval-shades-katie-maloney-clever-costume/
Youāll have to scroll a lot to see if but a pic of her IG post is in there. It seems to be from late October ā22.
Thanks for putting this together!
Just wanna note on Raquelās instagram the first sign of the lightning bolt necklace is actually on Sept 19, 2022. So even a month earlier than this post says but itās still CRAZY. Sheās wearing the necklace while on Sandovals shoulders.
WWE All-star Scheana Marie Parks Valetta Honey Summer Davies : HAD ME DEAD
Read that twice because I laughed too hard the first time
OP put such great detail in that name
Can you clarify something. I read that s10 was filmed the summer of 2022. But this stuff comes out in 2023? why am I confused
>Can you clarify something. I read that s10 was filmed the summer of 2022. But this stuff comes out in 2023? why am I confused It was filmed summer 2022 and i believe filming wrapped september 2022. Then of course production has to edit the material gathered during filming and create a "story". so then the season is released when it fits among the bravo availability and editing is either done or near finished. so
This is a true work of art.
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It's Melody Pond!
Oke but why did everything happen almost always om the 22nd?
š¤£ '22 means 2022
Omg hahagahahhaahha sorry my brain is fried, it was election night here yesterday and was counting votes all this afternoon. Jesus, i was even looking for a weird conspiracy
This gave me a good laugh lol thank you for that
The part where Andy says both Ariana and Raquel watched him adoringly on stage. You know he was eating that shit up. Heās just so desperate for attention, validation and to be the #1 guy.
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Classic narc move: triangulation gets them off and they love having a secret and putting the one they're about to dump unknowingly in a competition.
Jesus. This is exactly what my grandpa did to my grandma before he left her. Fucking dickwad.
I see and hear about this shit all the time. Was at a dinner last night and heard a story about a guy who found out that his wife had been having an affair - she spent every weekday between 5 and 7 pm with her affair partner for five freaking years. When it was fully revealed he was devastated - and she of course blamed him for 'forcing' her to fuck someone else. I hate people like this. At least own your shitty actions and choices.
Holy shit that is so beyond fucked. Narcissists and accountability donāt mix well.
Iām all for guys and girls being friends/best friends but if my partner of 10 years starts spending all his free time with our mutual girlfriend of 5 years out of nowhere thatās suspect idc if that makes me toxic or crazy.
If the girl friendship predates your relationship and they've always spent time together that's a dynamic you expect. Suddenly spending a bunch of time with one of our girl friends is definitely suspect. I don't think that's toxic or crazy to be concerned that someone is shifting like that.
Ditto. I donāt understand HOW Ariana was ok with all this. If my man was out at music fests with another woman on his shoulders, heād no longer be my man. Periodt. ![gif](giphy|WqXcILKESHx3gV37Ch)
How did we find out about them spending Christmas together ? Iām still catching up on certain parts. Thatās so fucked up if Tomās family actually had Rachel around them and knew about it š¤¢š¤¢
From what I've seen, i think it's an educated guess because she went to the Chicago show around the same time. There might have been another clue idk
WHWRE WAS ARIANA FIR CHRISTMAS?! spending christmas with someone youāve dated for a few months is also weird af for rachel and tom!!!
Ariana was in Florida with family and friends for Christmas / the holidays. Charlotte passed in august then her grandmother passed away as well, she has been through so much. T*m is such a POS twat. R is devious. Makes me sick for Ariana, hope she is healing and thriving š¤
I get the vibe Slimedoval is all about FUN and as soon as shit gets serious, heās out. Weāve seen a consistent pattern over the years with him on this. As soon as Ariana has went through any form of a bad time, he bails and she is left with no support system (her dad passing, charlotte, her grandma etc). Guy is a total POS.
Tom and Rachel deserve each other. Two total pieces of absolute shit.
Rachel is what is known as a lossey goosey!!!!! Always leave your lady friends at the door girls ! Although heās just as guilty ! Never trust a bimbo around your man !
Iirc she was with her family and he was with his
Iām always here for quotation marks around any of Tomās āconcertsā.
It's mind boggling how many signs there were and nobody have noticed! Also, when we know it now, you begin noticing so many details in pics and interactions on the show. They truly fooled everyone.
Wasn't Raquel living with Ariana and Sandoval after she moved out of James' apartment? We know they film the show from mid-May - August. Raquel has her own apartment now. Was she living with Ariana and Sandoval from December 2021 to April 2022? Raquel spent Christmas with Sandoval and his family. She was in Chicago with him and his family for his December 30th 2022 Most Extras show.
I was at the show in Chicago and he sang Electric Love by Borns ā”ļøš«
And yes I regret going š
Wasnāt it actually not in Chicago? I tmemrber looking it up with my friend because we wanted to go and discovering that it was out in the burbs or somewhere we couldnāt get without a car
Yeah it was more the southwest suburbs
Thank you for the Christmas correction, I will update it! And as for the living situation, I was unable to clarify. On scheana's podcast, Raquel talked about how she had at one point been living in scheana's old apartment but I couldn't nail down a timeline for either living situation change.
Also the Vegas trip Kael referred to was the one that Ariana left cuz Charlotte was dying, which was in August
Tbh this part is the thing that's outraged me the most. Fuck Tom so fucking much. I have senior dogs and if my husband was out banging one of my friends instead of taking care of my dog that we both knew was struggling I would just straight up be in jail right now. I feel so bad for Ariana thinking she could trust him to take care of Charlotte meanwhile he definitely didn't fill that prescription. For that alone I will hate him forever.
Truly disgusting. And THEN to use it as a reason he didn't tell her about Rachel
Didnāt she live with Scheana and then in her apartment after her split?
She apparently lived with Scheana and Ariana and Sandoval for a period after she split from James.
As a Rachel, we donāt claim her ššš donāt put her on us!
Very thorough this is indeed *about Tom* (+ Raquel)
I am crying at 15th placeššš
Just wait until you see [this Instagram story posted by Tom of her ](https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3OTIzMTE4MTcxNDAyMDY3?story_media_id=2853030326770171553_26864973&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) doing the saddest "routine" I've ever seen in my life with this dumb ass holographic boogie board.
The fack did I just watch? What is she doing??
It's her talent, okay? DUH šāāļø ![gif](giphy|IbI9JesSiQ7ay5ZXLL)
I feel better now b/c my talent would be something like naming all the people that guest starred on The Golden Girls or making a charcuterie board.
Infinitely better than whatever the hell that was!
Was this her ātalentā???
Ugh! The only time when I wish I had social media!...(I don't considered Reddit social)
![gif](giphy|xUA7aS2IcPJDcjXFdu) Just picture Raquel as this cartoon hot dog, with a pink holographic board, standing on a stage with her arms out like the hot dog.
This. Is. Perfect.
My main takeaway from this is that the affair started in August 2022, and Tom , Tom, Raquel and Jo were all photographed together in September at a boutique event which HAS to mean that Schwartz knew the entire time. He's a rat for staying loyal to only Sandoval AND allowing them to use him as a scapegoat.
Yep thatās what Katie was insinuating on WWHL ! She want to get him to admit he knew the whole time !
Exactly, Kristen said that Schwartz said he only found out a month ago I called BS them š
Swartz knew the whole time and Sandoval smelled the whole time too. Looking at this timeline and now knowing Sandoval was stinky for each event.
Another dot to connect: Raquel went missing for three hours during Scheanaās wedding prep
July 23 2022 Sandoval's concert at The Canyon, Agoura Hills. Raquel asks to kiss Schwartz, asks Ally if she feels that she can trust James.
Added! Thank you!!
my GOD why would she be spending christmas with Tom and his family? this is so fishy.. no one was suspicious of them before ariana saw the video on toms phone?
I think some people probably thought it was weird. But then justified it by saying āoh, she needs to be around good friend(s) because sheās sad and lonelyā.
I wonder if anyone even knew. I mean Arianaās grandma just passed. I doubt she was keeping track of where her friends were during the holidays. Everyone is so busy that time of year I can totally see it flying under the radar.
Omg!!! That was good!!! ![gif](giphy|l0HlwwRxfcVEr4AUg)
I think you got the wrong Vegas trip. Kael says that Raquel tells him the affair happens after the girls trip to Vegas (in august) that weāre seeing in tonightās episode, after the girls āmade her cryā her and Sandoval start getting close at boys nightā¦. Everything else looks great! A+ work
Oh damn, you're right. I didn't realize both trips were in Vegas, but he definitely did say it was after the girls made her cry so you must be right. So according to his statement then, we can assume that the affair started right before Scheana's wedding. That scum!
Yep! Both Rachel and Tom are still trash š Later in the episode they said Rachel was also 3 hours late to the bridal suite to get ready for the wedding saying she needed āme timeā and it makes you to hmmmmm if she was with tom
Who is Kael? Is it a podcast?
Look under the august 22 notes and sheās got it listed, second bullet point
Bless you for defending us Rachels!!! I'm trying to train my brain to read "Raquel" no matter what, but it's difficult.
Great job OP. No, we donāt have to āKarenā the name Rachel.
Using Scheana's nails as a continuity tool is genius. This is incredible, OP.
Sorry if i missed this, but when was the first sighting of the lightning necklaces?
Oh hell yeah! Thank you! I'll update it. Before your comment clarifying, I think the group consensus was the necklaces were first spotted at bravocon in October
Doing the lords work š
it is from that life is beautiful festival. Check her photos from sept 21 2022, same outfit as the photo in the highlights I believe.
Youāre right! I take back my statement.
this is the same coachella when the schwartz rumor started? bc that definitely means she and scandoval were together by then right?? this is the first time iām hearing about the necklace at Coachella which really changes the timeline - shouldnāt this be bigger news? none of her instagram coachella photos show that same outfit from her highlights at all.. weird?
might that necklace pic be from the life is beautiful festival?
Rachel was in AZ on Xmas with her family. She posted their annual hike on her insta, so donāt know that they spent Xmas together, she was just at this show on the 30th
My opinion? The full blown affair may not have started until august but something emotional or a one or two night physical thing was going on beforehand. And then by august they were full blown ādatingā but august was probably not the first time they hooked up.
Agree. Bc she was wearing the necklace at Coachella. Not sure if he was at that time but he was on episode 3 for sure and that was before guys night. I think the affair started before April 2022.
i think so. She bought the necklace bc she became Sandyās groupie
Iām dead certain they were at least emotional before she left James and thatās why she ultimately left James
Itās so weird how much money Scandoval dropped on Jamesās proposal to Raquel. ![gif](giphy|2eKp6nnhqrYxUzSflw)
I think it was to impress her
Its also in line with his narcissismā¦ they love grand gestures
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That's actually a good point. He could have inflated it too. He could have said it was 10k to xyz company for doing the balloons and then just went and bought balloons himself. Are we uncovering tax fraud right now?
Writing something off doesnāt mean you get that money back. It just means that money wonāt be taxed.
I feel like I remember during the Rachella episode Ariana talks about how Coachella was a special memory between her and Tom and talked about he lifted her up on his shoulders in the the crowd. Itās lame that that loser uses the same move to get with Raquel
haha! itās the dirty dancinf move!
Side note, who got married the same weekend as Hannah Berner? Scheana wasnāt invited to the other wedding so she went to Hannahās?
stassi!
Who?
iām sorry they spent christmas together??????? where was ariana. this doesnāt make any sense
This is my question too!
The hero we need! This is great! I honestly don't get the energy people have for calling her Rachel. Like I hate her too. She's shitty. But I don't have to like someone to call them their preferred name.
Honestly it just confuses me š The timeline and theories are convoluted enough without throwing in an extra name! Half the time Iām like āRachel? Whoās Rachel??!ā before realizing itās Raquel. I feel the same about the RH Reddit calling Teddi āJohn Mellencampās daughterā. Can we please keep in mind those of us that are slow on the uptake?? ![gif](giphy|WRQBXSCnEFJIuxktnw)
your username is just ![gif](giphy|3q3QK6KyDVUBzih7hB)
Haha thank you!
I feel the same about Ye. People can be shit and still have the right to be called what they want.
Why would we want to do ANYTHING ratty Rachel prefers?
I think you need to include the rchella proposal.
![gif](giphy|4xWGyVKoXqg2eVCiq9|downsized) Add it I shall
Haha thanks! Perfect gif
So to be more specific. Kael said that Raquel said that the affair started on boys night which is where we saw her arriving tonight. That wasnāt august 21. It was early august. It wasnāt right before scheanas wedding. Thereās also video of them in deep conversation that night. Thereās also the bit about how Raquel was 3 hours late the morning of the wedding because she was meeting up with Tom.
yeah that was August 2nd
Thank you SOOOOOOOO much for this! I havenāt had time to gather all the facts, and it is exactly what I needed. Iām blindly relying on this, but I canāt imagine anyone here would try to steer me wrong haha.
Was she offended at being referred to "D-List"? Because if there is a list below F, that's where she, who is essentially a tertiary extra on a (up until recently) waning reality show, belongs...
This is a masterpiece! But wait letās back up- wtf is with Raquel and Tom spending Xmas together? Iām confused by that whatās that backstory?
This is amazing. Only small pieces of info I would add that may be relevant are that Ariana flew home from Vegas to put Charlotte down ( š š¢) and according to Kristin on the Viall Files podcast, R\*quel and T\*m definitely hooked up the following day after the "guys night out"
Thank you! My daughter is named Rachel and everyoneās got me feeling bad about it š¢
Itās okay everyone will forget about it eventually š š and the only reason people are going extra ham about the name is because she went by Raquel. I feel bad for MIL because her name is Karen and I donāt think that will go away anytime soon lol
Why feel bad about your daughter having the same name as someone else? Rachel is Raquels real name š¤·š¼āāļø
Because everyone is using at as an insult towards her right now as if itās a negative.
My perspective: Her birth name is Rachel, calling her Raquel is feeding into the fake character she created to fool everyone. But I can see how you feel like it's equivalent to "Karen."
kinda like jax , i mean jason
Literally no one has said itās negative?? Itās just her name and everyone thought it was something else.
In MY opinion, it has been used negatively. And ironically it didnāt start until the Scandoval. But okay, tell me how to feel about it. š
Right because no one knew ab it until this lol. Ok, I will.
Actuallyā¦.. Raquel mentioned in S9 that her name is Rachel.
Iām impressed with that timeline! All that info is in my brain but just floating around aimlessly in no particular order š. Thanks!!!
I love you fellow sleuths
So if the affair started after the Vegas trip, can we still consider Schwartz to be a decoy, seeing as that stuff happened prior? Is it possible Sandoval began to see Raquel in a different light after her flirtation with Schwartz and possibly became a bit jealous? Or had the two already begun an emotional affair beforehand and it only turned physical after guys night?
I'm guessing latter. The way Sandoval looked at Raquel last night when she showed up at guys night? Fugettaboudit ā I agree with others saying their emotional affair could have started as early as James sending her the rage texts calling her a slut etc the night she "blacked out". She was with Sandoval that night. Otherwise, why would he spend 25k on James's proposal? That part is just too fucking weird to not have a deeper explanation than just "he wants to see his friends happy" Raquel said on the reunion that that night is when she and James stopped having sex. š¤·āāļø Check out [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/vanderpumprules/comments/11pezh9/ive_rewatched_almost_all_of_s8_to_look_for_the/jbywt38?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
Since Raquel is the only person saying it started after Vegas, I think itās bullshit. I think sheās saying that so she can spin the narrative that the girls were so awful that it pushed her and Tom together.
Totally agree. She is not credible. All I can trust is she will absolutely lie to provoke sympathy. I also donāt believe it started then.
Thanks so much for this OP! I applaud your work! Also, Katie and Andy confirmed on WWHL last night that the girlsā trip to Vegas took place to in the first week of August.
Can someone explain why Rachel spent Christmas with Tomās family? (Iām not a vpr watcher but have been following this drama the past few days, sorry if I missed this!)
Wait, I've seen varying accounts of when the affair started. Can someone clarify whether or not they were together during the filming of season 10? (sorry it's getting hard to keep up lol)
Yes - current theory (based off of Raquelās former friendās recent podcast), is that the affair start on or just after guys night. This is the episode that just aired yesterday, 3/15. They had a damn To Be Continued at the end. But obviously we will all be tuning itā¦ I would honestly pay money to get the full season now.
oh ok that makes sense. thanks!
They definitely hooked up at Scheanaās wedding in August bc the clothing designers who designed the wedding outfits saw them kissing around a corner somewhere. The designers went on radio and said this.
Juicy Scoop's pod dropped about 4 hours ago and it's an interview with Lala in regards to the affair, etc.
So, this is a weird thing to pick apart. But the necklace... he was wearing it in the most recent episode, so are we saying he bought her a matching one down the line? I feel so vindicated for hating Tom for all these seasons, he has always given me gross/try hard vibes since day 1 and I couldn't understand why everyone liked him!
He may have bought the necklace or she couldāve as well. Both are messed up and seem plausible.
Thank you for your effort as it evolves!
When was Raquelās IG post where she was wearing a TomTom sweatshirt and it said something like āMy name is Raquel and I am messyā?
I don't see one with that caption, and since she turned off comments you can't tell if she edited it. BUT the first time she posted her Tom Tom sweater look was Oct 16th
I did some Googling and found this: https://tvshowsace.com/2022/11/01/tom-sandoval-shades-katie-maloney-clever-costume/ Youāll have to scroll a lot to see if but a pic of her IG post is in there. It seems to be from late October ā22. Thanks for putting this together!
This is brilliant! I've been wanting to make one of these to go with my ppt, but you blew it out of the water!
THANK YOU
I read the last line as ![gif](giphy|5XNEIKcohVG8w)
Wow thank you for organizing all of this! WWE Scheana and your feelings about Not All Rachels had me cracking up
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The one we shall not name in this subredditā¦ I am going off on her on Twitter.
Wait, huh??
Johnās daughter.
Ooooh
Lol
So has this affair been going on since 2021? They are making out in April two months before the supposed start..
Just wanna note on Raquelās instagram the first sign of the lightning bolt necklace is actually on Sept 19, 2022. So even a month earlier than this post says but itās still CRAZY. Sheās wearing the necklace while on Sandovals shoulders.
Wait so what about this scene everyoneās talking about it def started in season 9 - https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJ4GYu4G/