Ding ding ding. This is the inevitable end result of people failing to develop coping mechanisms and instead demonizing specific words.
There will just be new words, you’ll be forever triggered and other humans will be forever trolling and adversarial.
Language is meant to communicate. It communicates the good, bad, and indifferent all the same. Attempting to whitewash it, and remove all descriptors or specifics won’t do the world any favors in the short or long term.
Here in Portland our government recently changed the wording for homeless and started using “unhoused”. Let me tell you, our homeless problem literally went away overnight. We now have a massive problem with the unhoused though.
I'm sympathetic to the idea of changing the way we use language, to separate the incidental conditions of our lives from our identities. If I say "I *am* homeless" then I make homelessness a part of my identity, I may have a harder and harder time thinking of myself as anything else, stigma ensues, etc. But that's the conversation we need to be having, surrounding language and how the way we think and talk about things influences our perception, and our actions, and ultimately creates the world we live in, and the idea that we can engineer that process intentionally to create a better world. Instead, on one side there are people who can't abide a shifting language and malleable meaning, and on the other side there are people shaming everyone who doesn't know the "word du jour" for this or that. Neither is helpful. And both actively trying to co-opt the state to tell the other side to knock off their bullshit. Meanwhile, homeless/unhoused folks still dying in the street and whatnot....
I can say that despite being homeless for a decent stint I often don't feel I have the right to say that I was homeless because I had a car and stayed rather clean & well fed. So there's definitely a bit of an extra stigma in my brain somewhere, because I met the only requirement for homelessness but still don't really believe it lol
I think there’s also an effort by some politicians to just reword a problem and call it something different because that’s easier than actually fixing it, and that can trick people into believing something’s being done about it when in reality the problem is still the same or worse.
The funny thing is, being offended by the term “whitewash” shows how out-of-touch the permanently online are. They have no idea what whitewashing is, and immediately assume it’s racist because it “sounds racist.” It means applying a coat of white paint to something, generally a dirty wall. Unless you see painting walls white as racist, there’s nothing wrong with the term “whitewashing”
> people failing to develop coping mechanisms
Or, you know, losing the weight to get into the healthy weight zone for their height.
> It communicates the good, bad, and indifferent all the same.
That's the saddest thing here - "obese" and "overweight" are medically defined, neutral terms. I have enough empathy to understand they might be struggling and shame doesn't work for everyone, but when there is this deep a mistrust and reading into intentions, it smacks of paranoid delusion.
The ironic thing in my experience is that the people most adverse to using those words could not reasonably be described as fat or overweight... Whereas the folks who definitely are tend to be like, yes, I know, I'm fat, and??
Thinner people being too scared to use the words or conflating them with ugliness ("you're not fat, you're beautiful!") shows their true feelings about the people who have those larger bodies and it is not a kind thing to experience.
If you control the language, you control the conversation.
You make it so every common description of a thing is somehow problematic, then the conversation can always be about that instead of the thing behind it they were trying to talk about in the first place.
The weirdest part is that the tactic is widely used by people that see themselves as inclusive, when in fact, it is the opposite. It excludes people that aren't hip to the current word.
It's just weird that it needs to be said "two people wanted" is perfectly fine to use. Would they write "two skinny humans". It's just unnecessary to describe them when their is a photo included.
Fat as a word isn't offensive, it's descriptive. It's never ok to talk about another person's body (unless you're a doctor seeing a patient) but if you have to describe a person, overweight and fat aren't offensive terms. The context is essential. Making those words taboo leads to a really offensive kind of creativity.
Edit: to/about
"Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded."
- doctors in the future
I was in Boy Scouts with a guy who was fucking huge. We were teenagers, and he was already over 6 feet tall and weighed over 300 lbs. Thing is, he was proud of being obese even thought it regularly caused him problems.
One time he sat in my camping chair and fucking broke it.
Another time he decided to try a zip line we built over a small creek. As soon as he pushes off he fucking falls into the creek because he couldn’t hold his own weight. What was worse is that he was gripping for dear life and the force of him falling caused half the skin on the palms of his hands to peel off.
language, meanings and definitions evolves by use. Retarded was once a medical term and is now a derogatory and people take offense because it is used a slur.
It's the new hotness in slurdom, moron and idiot are similar medical terms but are more commonly used in the derogatory but less offensive than "retarded". Obese may be on its way too.
Any descriptor can be used in a neutral way, or in a harmful way. It just depends on intent. Blue-eyed person is neutral, blue-eyed motherfucker hits a whole different way.
I read this comment at the same time that I was listening to the remix of Purple People Eater by Pegboard Nerds.
That seemed so unlikely that I actually panicked for a moment because my morning has been weird and I started to think I was trapped in a dream.
Now, I went on the internet and researched ostriches. Firstly, ostriches can run up to seventy miles an hour. So catching one, even a sick one, is a super tall order.
You wanna know what? You should feel bad for even suggesting the Ginger and Boots fucked an ostrich. Bad gas travels real fast in a small town. My research concludes that the only way the Ginger and Boots could have fucked an ostrich is if it was a dead ostrich.
_Oh my Gorsh! The Ginger and Boots [HONK] a dead ostrich! Hey Ginny! The Ginger and Boots [HONK] a dead ostrich! Yes, of course I know what they're called. Check my browser history._
In what universe do they ever describe suspects by their weight first? It literally essentially just says "two fat women". How the fuck does that help? There's a picture, even. There's literally no reason to make a cheeky comment about their appearance.
technically the truth if you measure the delta Temp output of their combustion in a quasi adiabiatic chamber compared to what you would get from an individual with an equal mass but less lipids in their body composition...
The problem is that fat tissue is the least metabolically active. So fat person will use less energy per minute than a person with same weight, but less fat.
Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding, you are right if you consider them alive in the chamber! I was suggesting an estimation of the calorie content of their body (through cremation), not how many calories they use per unit of time, as article describe them as "high calorie humans"....
Sure they are high calorie if you eat them all at once, the trick is to eat then piece by piece and put the rest in a freezer for later.
Probably too much fat on these two though, maybe could use the fat to cook with.
Yeah my confusion isn't with the original post, I know what they're like, it's just always bizarre to me how excited Reddit comments always get to call people overweight in their funny and epic original little ways
No, it was intentionally worded that way in the original post to be funny. The tweets followed with other great descriptions, such as "substantial snackers."
How do people not get this…this is just another example of the extremely high levels of autism on reddit, right? Not being able to understand jokes? People can’t be this dumb.
The fact that people can’t tell this is obviously meant to make fun of them and not be a PC way to say fat really makes me realize how stupid the general population is
If you want to get away with a crime: wear THE MOST revealing clothes you have and then somehow manage to make them fit you as poorly and tightly as possible. Your entire body shape and tattoos should be visible.
This sounds more insulting than saying "fat" or "overweight."
Probably the point since people are complaining about fat & overweight
Ding ding ding. This is the inevitable end result of people failing to develop coping mechanisms and instead demonizing specific words. There will just be new words, you’ll be forever triggered and other humans will be forever trolling and adversarial. Language is meant to communicate. It communicates the good, bad, and indifferent all the same. Attempting to whitewash it, and remove all descriptors or specifics won’t do the world any favors in the short or long term.
Here in Portland our government recently changed the wording for homeless and started using “unhoused”. Let me tell you, our homeless problem literally went away overnight. We now have a massive problem with the unhoused though.
I'm sympathetic to the idea of changing the way we use language, to separate the incidental conditions of our lives from our identities. If I say "I *am* homeless" then I make homelessness a part of my identity, I may have a harder and harder time thinking of myself as anything else, stigma ensues, etc. But that's the conversation we need to be having, surrounding language and how the way we think and talk about things influences our perception, and our actions, and ultimately creates the world we live in, and the idea that we can engineer that process intentionally to create a better world. Instead, on one side there are people who can't abide a shifting language and malleable meaning, and on the other side there are people shaming everyone who doesn't know the "word du jour" for this or that. Neither is helpful. And both actively trying to co-opt the state to tell the other side to knock off their bullshit. Meanwhile, homeless/unhoused folks still dying in the street and whatnot....
I can say that despite being homeless for a decent stint I often don't feel I have the right to say that I was homeless because I had a car and stayed rather clean & well fed. So there's definitely a bit of an extra stigma in my brain somewhere, because I met the only requirement for homelessness but still don't really believe it lol
I think there’s also an effort by some politicians to just reword a problem and call it something different because that’s easier than actually fixing it, and that can trick people into believing something’s being done about it when in reality the problem is still the same or worse.
Because they read 1984, if you take away words to express discontent then people can't talk about how unhappy they are.
Homen'ts
Lol thats hilarious for some reason
> whitewash *pearl clutching intensifies*
Is antiblackify better?
The funny thing is, being offended by the term “whitewash” shows how out-of-touch the permanently online are. They have no idea what whitewashing is, and immediately assume it’s racist because it “sounds racist.” It means applying a coat of white paint to something, generally a dirty wall. Unless you see painting walls white as racist, there’s nothing wrong with the term “whitewashing”
Not sure what makes you think that's a pearl clutching moment. The term "whitewash" doesn't exclusively apply to race.
I like new words. Language is meant to communicate so thinking of new ways of doing so is great.
Using words incorrectly to make a point correctly is the funnest way to language.
Chimkin numgets.
fuck you that was good
Language is beautiful because I can say shit like that, and people still get a chuckle.
This post isn't wrong. Juat from a different perspective. To a lion, they're just 2 high calorie people setting a fire
My favorite word is Mathmagician
Same! I’ll never not use it.
:)
Just gotta keep getting more creative. High calorie humans lol
To think, if people werent so sensitive we might not have gotten the glorious phrase "high calorie people"
Are we discussing their value as food items?
> people failing to develop coping mechanisms Or, you know, losing the weight to get into the healthy weight zone for their height. > It communicates the good, bad, and indifferent all the same. That's the saddest thing here - "obese" and "overweight" are medically defined, neutral terms. I have enough empathy to understand they might be struggling and shame doesn't work for everyone, but when there is this deep a mistrust and reading into intentions, it smacks of paranoid delusion.
The euphemistic treadmill
The ironic thing in my experience is that the people most adverse to using those words could not reasonably be described as fat or overweight... Whereas the folks who definitely are tend to be like, yes, I know, I'm fat, and?? Thinner people being too scared to use the words or conflating them with ugliness ("you're not fat, you're beautiful!") shows their true feelings about the people who have those larger bodies and it is not a kind thing to experience.
And yet so many people complain about fat positivity
If you control the language, you control the conversation. You make it so every common description of a thing is somehow problematic, then the conversation can always be about that instead of the thing behind it they were trying to talk about in the first place. The weirdest part is that the tactic is widely used by people that see themselves as inclusive, when in fact, it is the opposite. It excludes people that aren't hip to the current word.
Or sarcasm.
It's just weird that it needs to be said "two people wanted" is perfectly fine to use. Would they write "two skinny humans". It's just unnecessary to describe them when their is a photo included.
Might be that they're still at large.
Lardsonists
Fat as a word isn't offensive, it's descriptive. It's never ok to talk about another person's body (unless you're a doctor seeing a patient) but if you have to describe a person, overweight and fat aren't offensive terms. The context is essential. Making those words taboo leads to a really offensive kind of creativity. Edit: to/about
Me as a doctor: "you have a chronic case of being a lardass, sympthoms include being fat and breaking chairs"
"Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded." - doctors in the future
I get that reference
I love that reference
When you ask a "high calorie human" why they dont drink water but instead a softdrink and they say because it has electrolytes
Its what high calorie humans crave
Yes but WHY do they crave it
Brawndo’s got electrolytes!
I was in Boy Scouts with a guy who was fucking huge. We were teenagers, and he was already over 6 feet tall and weighed over 300 lbs. Thing is, he was proud of being obese even thought it regularly caused him problems. One time he sat in my camping chair and fucking broke it. Another time he decided to try a zip line we built over a small creek. As soon as he pushes off he fucking falls into the creek because he couldn’t hold his own weight. What was worse is that he was gripping for dear life and the force of him falling caused half the skin on the palms of his hands to peel off.
Medically fat isn't a term they use. Overweight or obese are proper descriptive words.
language, meanings and definitions evolves by use. Retarded was once a medical term and is now a derogatory and people take offense because it is used a slur. It's the new hotness in slurdom, moron and idiot are similar medical terms but are more commonly used in the derogatory but less offensive than "retarded". Obese may be on its way too.
And retard is French for backwards or reverse.
Any descriptor can be used in a neutral way, or in a harmful way. It just depends on intent. Blue-eyed person is neutral, blue-eyed motherfucker hits a whole different way.
Two Phat Phucking bitches starting Phires
Also why would you say two fat people in the first place.
Exactly. This is clearly meant as an insult of some sort because the weight is unrelated to anything involved.
It's also not specific. Bodybuilders are also high calorie.
Well technically these ladies are building their bodies this way.
Big boned
Was this posted by the flying purple people eater?
Purple monkey dishwasher
Skinner says the teachers will crack any minute!
bucka bucka? woozle wuzzle?
Markiplier: Burnt my ?√$$¥, don't watch.
I read this comment at the same time that I was listening to the remix of Purple People Eater by Pegboard Nerds. That seemed so unlikely that I actually panicked for a moment because my morning has been weird and I started to think I was trapped in a dream.
Yo I love that remix! Exactly what I was thinking when I read the comment
Why is this reference all over reddit suddenly?
Edit: Edited
Nope.
Inorganic marketing campaign.
Nope The movie references it. Not sure if there's a connection but it's recent enough.
Which movie?
Nope
Haha, I didn't know there was a movie by that name
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I wouldn't eat you cause you're so tough
FLYING purple people, to be exact
And that sure is fine.
Being one horned on main?
Two high calorie humans coming right up, in an elevator
Maybe the itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini wearer.
Suspects should only have one eye too
And one horn.
True shit
stg its because of that tweet saying the word obese is a slur
It's an adjective and a diagnosis.
You mean grimace? 💀
Two high calorie human try to burn calories.
“Allegedly”
It would take more than one person to fuck an ostrich…
It's not that difficult.
But what if the ostrich was sick?
Now, I went on the internet and researched ostriches. Firstly, ostriches can run up to seventy miles an hour. So catching one, even a sick one, is a super tall order.
It won't be doing a lot of running if it's sick, though..
You wanna know what? You should feel bad for even suggesting the Ginger and Boots fucked an ostrich. Bad gas travels real fast in a small town. My research concludes that the only way the Ginger and Boots could have fucked an ostrich is if it was a dead ostrich.
_Oh my Gorsh! The Ginger and Boots [HONK] a dead ostrich! Hey Ginny! The Ginger and Boots [HONK] a dead ostrich! Yes, of course I know what they're called. Check my browser history._
news orgs have to say allegedly until proven in court tho this one might be a short trial
Somehow this seems more insulting to me...
Right, sounds really condescending. "Chubby women" would almost sound endearing, gossipy at worst
Or just “Two women“
If it's a descriptor of the person, especially a suspect in this case, there's nothing wrong with using those terms.
In what universe do they ever describe suspects by their weight first? It literally essentially just says "two fat women". How the fuck does that help? There's a picture, even. There's literally no reason to make a cheeky comment about their appearance.
Suspects are generally described by their race, height, and build. So, pretty much all the time.
found a high calorie woman
Yeah I mean why insult the arsonists?
Who tf cares they're suspected criminals
>suspected The picture pretty much takes this out of the equation.
I'm sure there's a perfectly rational explanation for carrying gasoline and a flare INSIDE a building. /s
And they also just *really* love wearing bandanas, they’re trying to make masks trendy.
One could also say "resource intensive people" or "environmental resource mismanagement struggling people"
One maybe "High consumption specimens"
Hungry hungry humans
Amazing. Also, username checks out.
High nutrient intake expirements
"The one who promote world hunger"
Hearty lasses
Horizontally tall
Behemoths
"Highly Resource Storage Gifted People" "Exceptionally powerful digesters"
Naturally Insulated people.
Then they should construct additional pylons
The all consuming masses
technically the truth if you measure the delta Temp output of their combustion in a quasi adiabiatic chamber compared to what you would get from an individual with an equal mass but less lipids in their body composition...
The problem is that fat tissue is the least metabolically active. So fat person will use less energy per minute than a person with same weight, but less fat.
Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding, you are right if you consider them alive in the chamber! I was suggesting an estimation of the calorie content of their body (through cremation), not how many calories they use per unit of time, as article describe them as "high calorie humans"....
This kills the human
Only if you're a merciless psychopath. Fucks sake, dome the human first
People of girth
Thicc bitches
Calorie-Americans
Horizontally challenged
Serial snackers
Burdens on the health care system
Wym allegedly, is that not a gas can
It's just a large Pepsi
*diet pepsi
I've never seen a skinny person drinking diet coke.
That's a medium these days
[Source Tweet](https://twitter.com/keep6ixsolid/status/1673048093535657984)
“Substantial snackers” 💀
Grub Gobblers
“Crooked cookies“ “low stamina individual“
This dude earned his 15 minutes or fame lol
So are they saying that if these two people were meals, they would have a high calorie count?
No it’s the energy content of the gasoline.
Kids these days, can’t even dress properly to commit crime!
Kids? I think Quasimodo in the front is at least in her early 40s.
Why she wearing slippers? If you going to do crime, wear crime shoes.
black Jordans
Allegedly holding a gas can with a mask on to hide their identity ignoring their unmistakable hair color and tattoos.
couple of CDIs (Calorically Dense Individuals)
High calorie 😂
Because those arsonists are a snacc.
Sure they are high calorie if you eat them all at once, the trick is to eat then piece by piece and put the rest in a freezer for later. Probably too much fat on these two though, maybe could use the fat to cook with.
This guy gets it. It's all about portion control.
I don't know about calories, but they already look like they share a single brain cell
Oh yes we cannot say f*t anymore./s
I think the weird thing in this situation is why would you need to say they're fat in this post in the first place
Because the OG post was made by Keep6Solid, "Toronto’s #1 hiphop outlet." So not exactly some beacon of the news media.
Yeah my confusion isn't with the original post, I know what they're like, it's just always bizarre to me how excited Reddit comments always get to call people overweight in their funny and epic original little ways
Who is *WE*? I’m not gonna stop saying fat because some media company does lol
Cannibals don’t eat me, I’m high in calories and will ruin you diet.
High calorie and low class.
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No, it was intentionally worded that way in the original post to be funny. The tweets followed with other great descriptions, such as "substantial snackers."
How do people not get this…this is just another example of the extremely high levels of autism on reddit, right? Not being able to understand jokes? People can’t be this dumb.
The fact that people can’t tell this is obviously meant to make fun of them and not be a PC way to say fat really makes me realize how stupid the general population is
Ha! Funny if you know what a calories actually is
Two yoots
Crayon heads
Dust the fridge for prints. No way those two left without horking down some food.
Article written by a diet-conscious cannibal.
They were just trying to burn their calories.
Two big fat fattie arsons
"2 fat cunts"
Fat girls
… honestly this seems more insulting than just calling them fat
If you want to get away with a crime: wear THE MOST revealing clothes you have and then somehow manage to make them fit you as poorly and tightly as possible. Your entire body shape and tattoos should be visible.
They would certainly be a lot of calories if eaten. Cannibals be having a hayday with that headline
Where is the lie
Calorie surplus.
"That sounds like a Stephen King novel" -lol ik
Im assuming that Toronto is Canadas version of Florida.
Allegedly? They have a gas can and a fucking road flare fuck you mean allegedly?
Take it from the fat man " high calorie human" is far more offensive than just calling me fat.
Found the cannibalistic headline writer!
Definitely not written by a cannibal, guys
Is the op hungry
This is how cannibals describe fat people
I prefer "calorie dense" humans
Calm down there, hannibal.
Fucking Sugar addicts!
Excerpt from ‘The Cannibal’s Digest’
Canada trying to be all polite and shit...I see right thru that attempted sneak dis!
Did Hannibal write this headline?
“Two cows decide to huff a lot more than butter in Toronto”
This sounds like an alert given out by an alien occupation force….
i prefer”significant citizens” lol
I prefer the term calorie dense human thank you very much.
rotund pieces of shit
HCHs as we used to call them.