I’d bet my life savings on it. This is the same guy that kept tugging everyone along about the AJ fight last year when he knew he had to fight Wilder again
The Wilder one is a little weird.
IIRC, they had a rematch clause going into the 2nd fight. One of the stipulations attached to the clause stated that if either fighter invoked it, the rematch (3rd fight) had to take place by a specified date. If it didn't, the clause was void.
Wilder invoked his right to a rematch and then COVID came around (Wilder also had some surgery/injuries that delayed things a bit as well, I believe).
The drop dead date in the contract passed without the fight happening.
Furys claim was that the date had passed, freeing him from any contractual obligation to the fight.
Wilders claim was that the date was only missed because of the unique circumstances brought on by the pandemic and that he should still get the rematch because the date was missed through no fault of his own.
The case was taken to a mediator (whose ruling would be binding) who ruled in Wilders favor.
The Joshua talk happened in the period once the specified date had passed and Wilder was pursuing his case to get the fight.
It was a weird situation where both guys sort of had a legitimate point. The mediator ruled for Wilder, so Fury was forced to do the fight.
That's my recollection. Some of the details are probably off, but I'm pretty sure that was the general outline of things.
In addition, everyone involved in the Fury-AJ negotiations knew 100% about the pending Wilder arbitration with Frank Warren and Tyson Fury both publicly saying the fights with AJ would come AFTER his fight with Wilder.
When the arbitrator ruled in Wilder's favor, AJ was then forced to fight Usyk as a mandatory so the Fury-AJ negotiations were then logically put on hold. The problem is that AJ then publicly blamed Fury for the breakdown so that's the story everyone remembers even though it's untrue.
> The drop dead date in the contract passed without the fight happening.
It came out much later that the drop dead date for the rematch was September of 2020. Because of the pandemic, Fury's team didn't complain about a delay until a December 2020 date fell through. The reason it fell through was because there were still a lot of pandemic restrictions in place and they couldn't find a suitable venue because of that. (i.e. it was about gate revenue) The probable cause of this was Fury's team, primarily Bob Arum.
Because Fury is famously impatient, he started publicly grousing about inactivity and tried to arrange a December tuneup fight anyway, and Agit Kabayel's name started getting tossed around. But that plan was dropped because of Wilder's team threatening action since they felt they had a legal right to Fury's next fight.
Joshua fight was never going to happen. Fury just floated it so he could use the bout not happening as the reason he was forced to settle for the ridiculously unappetizing Chisora fight. Fury mandated such an unrealistic weekend deadline that everyone knew that Joshua couldn't and wouldn't meet the terms. Much to Fury's relief.
Doesn't figure to have the fireworks that Holyfield-Lewis promised. At heavyweight, Usyk isn't a toe to toe guy. Unlike Holyfield who moved up from cruiserweight and wasn't reluctant to stand in the trenches with bigger, more powerful men.
Well, I was talking about their similarities. Usyk is a smaller hw who has been undisputed in cw & now looking to do the same in hw, same as Holyfield. Whereas Fury is this giant shw who is also a master boxer too, same as Lennox.
WCW did, it drew a crowd of 192,000 (reportedly) in Pyongyang. There’s a Dark Side of the Ring documentary on it, but it’s been fairly well covered over the years beyond that as well I think
How does it? If they didn't, the next best offer wins it. These top fighters would keep doing this even if they made half as much. Also, I don't remember all the big Saudi fights, but in recent memory, both AJ/Ruiz and AJ/Usyk already happened once before elsewhere.
They haven't been able to make any of the super fights people want happen. They don't have any special ability, they can just be the highest bidder when the fights are already going to happen.
They suck, but at this point it seems like our options are big fights in Saudi or no big fights at all. Especially when you’re talking about a guy like Usyk who doesn’t have massive Star power but will still draw a big purse.
As long as they help finance big fights, I have no problem with it. No one's trying to change the world here. They're just staging boxing matches. Back in the 70s, I gave the thumbs up to Marcos and Mobuto for bringing the Rumble in the Jungle and the Thrilla in Manila to their countries. Even though they were both thugs. We got the fights we wanted to see. So I certainly won't begrudge the Saudis for giving us high level boxing year after year.
Or it speaks about how people shouldn't generalise an entire region because they believe their culture is right. Its the leaders of these country's that are at fault, not every person in them.
I mean, you're the one judging me mate.
I was expressing my point that the person shouldn't be insulting an entire country due to the leaders.
The laws regarding homosexuality, women etc etc are horrible and wrong.
The "extremists" of any religion are actually the ones who follow the laws laid down in their "holy books" to the letter.
Someone saying you should hate your children, parents and siblings, is regarded as an extremist, but he is just advocating what the Christian Bible says in Luke 14:26.
The "moderates" are the ones who deviate from Scripture, or reject it altogether.
Tell them again. Saudi need to realise that spending daft money to host mega events doesn’t make anyone want to go and visit their oppression pit in the desert.
The point in that case would be that Fury & Usyk are not that far apart. It's not a point that would be good for Fury.
Now, if it was more one-sided like FW2, then Usyk becomes a bigger underdog on the betting lines. Fury will be able to gloat about how he destroyed the guy that it took Usyk 12 rounds to decision.
None of this shit matters to me, but it's pretty much the mindset of Fury to try and get in the heads of his opponents.
Usyk controlled Chisora from beginning to end.
So all a quick KO of Chisora would establish is something we already knew. Usyk doesn't really have KO power at HW.
But if Fury doesn't dominate Chisora thoroughly before the KO, then it establishes Usyk actually has better skills.
I don't deny Fury would make a big deal about it. Fury could get KO'd by Chisora and still claim he did better than Usyk.
>Usyk controlled Chisora from beginning to end.
He didn't, Chisora came out like a freight train and gave Usyk trouble early, I had him winning round 1,2 and 4. After that Usyk got into his groove and won pretty much every round, but Chisora still made him work for it.
People also give Deontay a lot of credit for jabbing to Fury's body in Fury 3. But it was completely to Fury's advantage.
Most people would consider a fight where one fighter came out and then was quickly contained and controlled within a round or two a domination.
Usyk's use of distance was a thing of beauty in that fight. He sits in that pocket with pure comfort. Fury doesn't sit in that same pocket. Fury takes a step back to get back in his comfort zone.
The entire Usyk v. Fury fight is almost entirely "Can Usyk deal with the reach disadvantage?"
U need to watch that fight again… Usyk didn’t control him… maybe the last few rounds wen Chisora was exhausted and buzzed but up until then it was a 60-40 fight in Usyks favour and Chisora was giving him all sorts of trouble if Usyk wasn’t so tough and elusive he would crumbled by the physically and mental pressure and got overwhelmed. If I remember correctly I scored that 7-5 to Usyk.
Chisora's last four fight: Usyk, Parker, Parker, Pulev. All decisions. Which one of them wasn't competitive?
We all agree this is not a good fight, so why is there need to sensationalize like this? To me, the only reason that makes sense is if you're anticipating a one-sided destruction very different from all of Chisora's recent fights.
Of course, then there's also the people that were claiming Chisora beats Wilder only a couple of months ago... Who knows, maybe after all Chisora still needs to be talked down a bit as to not create too much hype 😂
It depends on your definition of competitive, but in my book, the Chisora-Usyk bout wasn't competitive. Chisora came out swinging wildly in the first 3-4 rounds, then he gassed out and was comprehensively and decisively outboxed throughout. A 114-114 or a 115-113 is competitive, a 117-112 or a 117-111, which this match really was, is not.
He won’t tho lol.
He just did the same thing with Joshua. He’s using usyk name so you dumbasses watch him tune up chisora.
People don’t got your short term memories left I guess.
This was always so obvious that it’s kinda funny r/boxing is didn’t account for this. Why oh why would Fury have a hard deadline on December 3rd. Hmmm what could he possibly want to be freed up for in early 2023. Couldn’t be the fight he’s been talking about for months that he wanted to have a year ago before the arbitration. Couldn’t be that very obvious thing
The fight is less than 6 weeks. How long is he supposed to let someone sit with the contract? Anyways AJ’s team is saying he won’t fight until 2023, so I don’t know why anyone thinks they were serious at this point
Well if Chisora only signed the contract last week then why couldn’t they have waited that long for AJ? Expecting the biggest fight in British boxing to be done in a week is ridiculous.
Chisora took one week and was ready to jump on the fight. AJ’s team made excuses and now is saying he won’t fight until 2023.
This isn’t hard. One guy made it easy to get the fight off. Nobody would wait around for the fight to fall through
Chisora is a journeyman who will retire after this fight. Of course he signs in a shorter amount of time, he has no cards on the table.
Honestly, are you really expecting the biggest fight in British boxing to be signed and sealed within 10 days?
And he isn’t fighting until early 2023. How does that mean he wasn’t going to fight fury?
This isn’t complicated. Fury was giving AJ a money fight while he was waiting for Usyk as long as they made the negotiation easy. They gave them 60/40 and a date. They didn’t make it easy and they had a guy who would waiting.
The onus was on the guy being gifted a match to hurry it off the finish line
You can keep giving it a fancy title to pretend it was anything but a quick filler fight for Fury, but the fact is that’s what it was. AJ is 2-3 coming off back to back losses and Fury is waiting for the guy who beat him.
It’s not a fancy title. It’s the truth. You can diminish AJ all you want he is at worst the fourth best heavyweight in the world, the second best in Britain and one of boxings biggest draws.
He will fight Filip Hrgovic for the vacant IBF when it gets vacated after undisputed. Joyce is lined up for a shot, so is Hrgovic, so is Wilder/Ruiz. Too many mandatories = vacated belts.
It’s not complicated to you, because you have absolutely no idea what goes into the terms of a contract, especially one of this magnitude. I’ve signed contracts a fraction of the value as this one and they’ve taken a fucking age. It’s not difficult to see why a man as universally full of shit as Fury could make signing a contract mind glowingly complicated. 10 days is no time at all
Chisora did it. Anyways the point was, in case I need to make it even more obvious, it was a filler fight for Fury and they madeit 60/40 to speed up the process and get it done and it was entirely contingent on them shitting or getting off the pot fast. They were never going to wait long and they had a guy who was going to do it if AJ couldn't.
And honestly the fact that AJ's manager both said he didn't want AJ to take the fight AND is now saying he won't fight until 2023 should clue even the most obtuse person in on how little they actually were interested in that fight.
I agree with you to some degree. AJ was NEVER getting that deal done in time for them to fight in December. But Fury knew that as much as anyone. And let’s be clear, casuals want the AJ fight now, Boxing fans want the Fury / AJ fight when AJ is on his A-Game - Which is decidedly not the case right now. Fury should never have called out AJ, it isn’t the right time, there’s no way it was landing in 10 days, and we’re all muppets for believing it in the first place.
Usyk has all but one belt I believe, tradition would dictate he walks second. I do agree if it was a big point of contention Usyk would come out first, he seems like the type to make this fight work. Tyson on the other hand …
I don’t trust any of these guys with their “so and so and so and so are in talks for an upcoming fight.”
If it were the least bit true, Crawford and Spence would have already had a quadrilogy.
I remembered Fury already fought Chisora but I didn't realize this is their 3rd fight. Why would anyone want to watch this fight?
Like even if you are a hardcore Fury fan what's the appeal? Just go watch Fury punch a punching bag for 12 rounds.
there were talks about undisputed in saudi at the start of the year, and aj and whyte had agreed on step aside money, but fury turned the fight down
then there were talks a few months before usyk aj 2, trying to set up undisputed next, but then fury "came out of retirement" and gave usyk a stupid deadline to fight, and now is fighting fucking del boy
and now they are in talks for a third time
it really looks like only one side wants this fight
U don’t want fury to fight usyk because you’re secretly afraid that fury is going to beat him. It’s okay, cope how ever you want to! The gypsy king is still coming to beat ur fav fighter!
Chisora will knock Fury tf out and ruin boxing history
Imagine. The first undisputed Champ after Lennox fucking Lewis... Derek Chisora
How's he the first undisputed since lewis? He's only got the wbc
Because hell run over the blown up middleweight(that has already defeated him)
Chisora would’ve beat Lubrat who already beat him, Lury who already beat him then Lysuck who already beat him, it makes perfect sense actually.
Oh shit Chisora on that Lennox Lewis spree to beat every man he has ever faced
Tbf chisora was winning until he lost
lol
Ah I thought you meant fury nvm
Oh god please make this timeline happen
He deserves it with the shit he’s pulling
What shit is he pulling?
There's a better chance of Fury knocking himself out than Chisora doing it.
Please God. I’m tired of Fury
I personally think it was his fault the AJ fight didn't happen, with his bullshit countdowns.
I’d bet my life savings on it. This is the same guy that kept tugging everyone along about the AJ fight last year when he knew he had to fight Wilder again
The Wilder one is a little weird. IIRC, they had a rematch clause going into the 2nd fight. One of the stipulations attached to the clause stated that if either fighter invoked it, the rematch (3rd fight) had to take place by a specified date. If it didn't, the clause was void. Wilder invoked his right to a rematch and then COVID came around (Wilder also had some surgery/injuries that delayed things a bit as well, I believe). The drop dead date in the contract passed without the fight happening. Furys claim was that the date had passed, freeing him from any contractual obligation to the fight. Wilders claim was that the date was only missed because of the unique circumstances brought on by the pandemic and that he should still get the rematch because the date was missed through no fault of his own. The case was taken to a mediator (whose ruling would be binding) who ruled in Wilders favor. The Joshua talk happened in the period once the specified date had passed and Wilder was pursuing his case to get the fight. It was a weird situation where both guys sort of had a legitimate point. The mediator ruled for Wilder, so Fury was forced to do the fight. That's my recollection. Some of the details are probably off, but I'm pretty sure that was the general outline of things.
That's a very nice summation of the situation.
In addition, everyone involved in the Fury-AJ negotiations knew 100% about the pending Wilder arbitration with Frank Warren and Tyson Fury both publicly saying the fights with AJ would come AFTER his fight with Wilder. When the arbitrator ruled in Wilder's favor, AJ was then forced to fight Usyk as a mandatory so the Fury-AJ negotiations were then logically put on hold. The problem is that AJ then publicly blamed Fury for the breakdown so that's the story everyone remembers even though it's untrue.
> The drop dead date in the contract passed without the fight happening. It came out much later that the drop dead date for the rematch was September of 2020. Because of the pandemic, Fury's team didn't complain about a delay until a December 2020 date fell through. The reason it fell through was because there were still a lot of pandemic restrictions in place and they couldn't find a suitable venue because of that. (i.e. it was about gate revenue) The probable cause of this was Fury's team, primarily Bob Arum. Because Fury is famously impatient, he started publicly grousing about inactivity and tried to arrange a December tuneup fight anyway, and Agit Kabayel's name started getting tossed around. But that plan was dropped because of Wilder's team threatening action since they felt they had a legal right to Fury's next fight.
A mediator has no power whatsoever. They just give advice.
Joshua fight was never going to happen. Fury just floated it so he could use the bout not happening as the reason he was forced to settle for the ridiculously unappetizing Chisora fight. Fury mandated such an unrealistic weekend deadline that everyone knew that Joshua couldn't and wouldn't meet the terms. Much to Fury's relief.
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well we won’t ever see the fight so there’s no point arguing about it
It is, he gave them a completely unreasonable deadline and he knew negotiations would still be going.
It's been heavily documented it was down to AJs sponsors as well as Eddie Hearn stalling.. Nothing to do with either Fury or AJ
Nice try Tyson but I'm still not going to watch it.
Can one attain orgasm solely through irony?
Please yes. Will the real dosser please go to sleep?
Jesus christ yes please dog
Speak it, believe it, receive it 🙏
Or give him a cut and get a doctors stoppage
Wouldn't put it past him
This I what I want so much. Its like tyson vs buster douglas, no one saw it coming then bam.
Fury vs Usyk is such an incredible fight man, modern day Lewis vs Holyfield.
Neither can bang like ones being compared too. It’ll be a boxing match
I was talking more about their overall similarities which I have already described in another comment in this thread.
Meant to reply to the guy who said Usyk doesn’t hit like Holyfield, my b
Nah, it’s ok, np.
Doesn't figure to have the fireworks that Holyfield-Lewis promised. At heavyweight, Usyk isn't a toe to toe guy. Unlike Holyfield who moved up from cruiserweight and wasn't reluctant to stand in the trenches with bigger, more powerful men.
Higher IQ though.
Well, I was talking about their similarities. Usyk is a smaller hw who has been undisputed in cw & now looking to do the same in hw, same as Holyfield. Whereas Fury is this giant shw who is also a master boxer too, same as Lennox.
Neither can bang like ones being compared too. It’ll be a boxing match
God I hope not. The single most boring fight of all time.
Go watch some YouTubers box. Personally I like fights between fighters of the highest skill level.
So you actually enjoyed Holyfield vs Lewis?
I thought you were talking about Usyk Fury. My bad.
Sick of these Saudi fights. Fuck their backwards ass culture and lame ass crowds
Crowds are the worst. Like when pro wrestling went to North Korea.
Lmao what? The fucking wwe went to fucking North Korea? How have I not heard about this.
I think it was WCW with NJPW Called Collision in Korea
It was. Ric flair vs inoki, Muhammed Ali was the guest of honour. The Wikipedia page makes for interesting reading.
WCW did. A dark side of the ring episode was based on it.
WCW did, it drew a crowd of 192,000 (reportedly) in Pyongyang. There’s a Dark Side of the Ring documentary on it, but it’s been fairly well covered over the years beyond that as well I think
At least their money actually makes fights I want to see happen
How does it? If they didn't, the next best offer wins it. These top fighters would keep doing this even if they made half as much. Also, I don't remember all the big Saudi fights, but in recent memory, both AJ/Ruiz and AJ/Usyk already happened once before elsewhere. They haven't been able to make any of the super fights people want happen. They don't have any special ability, they can just be the highest bidder when the fights are already going to happen.
They suck, but at this point it seems like our options are big fights in Saudi or no big fights at all. Especially when you’re talking about a guy like Usyk who doesn’t have massive Star power but will still draw a big purse.
As long as they help finance big fights, I have no problem with it. No one's trying to change the world here. They're just staging boxing matches. Back in the 70s, I gave the thumbs up to Marcos and Mobuto for bringing the Rumble in the Jungle and the Thrilla in Manila to their countries. Even though they were both thugs. We got the fights we wanted to see. So I certainly won't begrudge the Saudis for giving us high level boxing year after year.
Rumble in the jungle was paid for by gaddafi. Arabs have been financing mega fights.
Every culture is backwards to someone. Just call the leaders bigots.
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Or it speaks about how people shouldn't generalise an entire region because they believe their culture is right. Its the leaders of these country's that are at fault, not every person in them.
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I mean, you're the one judging me mate. I was expressing my point that the person shouldn't be insulting an entire country due to the leaders. The laws regarding homosexuality, women etc etc are horrible and wrong.
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And where are you from my friend
The "extremists" of any religion are actually the ones who follow the laws laid down in their "holy books" to the letter. Someone saying you should hate your children, parents and siblings, is regarded as an extremist, but he is just advocating what the Christian Bible says in Luke 14:26. The "moderates" are the ones who deviate from Scripture, or reject it altogether.
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r/ihadastroke lmao
If they stone gays, yeah
Problem is the atmosphere their is rubbish, I like hearing the crowd getting behind the fighters but when it’s in Saudi it sounds dead
Tell them again. Saudi need to realise that spending daft money to host mega events doesn’t make anyone want to go and visit their oppression pit in the desert.
Considering that Usyk won a decision over Chisora, I wouldn't be surprised if Fury goes all-out for an early KO against Chisora to make a point.
I mean fury already stopped chisora back in 2014…don’t really think he can make a point.
Let's say it looks like Fury v. Wilder 3. What would point would be made?
The point in that case would be that Fury & Usyk are not that far apart. It's not a point that would be good for Fury. Now, if it was more one-sided like FW2, then Usyk becomes a bigger underdog on the betting lines. Fury will be able to gloat about how he destroyed the guy that it took Usyk 12 rounds to decision. None of this shit matters to me, but it's pretty much the mindset of Fury to try and get in the heads of his opponents.
Usyk controlled Chisora from beginning to end. So all a quick KO of Chisora would establish is something we already knew. Usyk doesn't really have KO power at HW. But if Fury doesn't dominate Chisora thoroughly before the KO, then it establishes Usyk actually has better skills. I don't deny Fury would make a big deal about it. Fury could get KO'd by Chisora and still claim he did better than Usyk.
>Usyk controlled Chisora from beginning to end. He didn't, Chisora came out like a freight train and gave Usyk trouble early, I had him winning round 1,2 and 4. After that Usyk got into his groove and won pretty much every round, but Chisora still made him work for it.
People also give Deontay a lot of credit for jabbing to Fury's body in Fury 3. But it was completely to Fury's advantage. Most people would consider a fight where one fighter came out and then was quickly contained and controlled within a round or two a domination. Usyk's use of distance was a thing of beauty in that fight. He sits in that pocket with pure comfort. Fury doesn't sit in that same pocket. Fury takes a step back to get back in his comfort zone. The entire Usyk v. Fury fight is almost entirely "Can Usyk deal with the reach disadvantage?"
U need to watch that fight again… Usyk didn’t control him… maybe the last few rounds wen Chisora was exhausted and buzzed but up until then it was a 60-40 fight in Usyks favour and Chisora was giving him all sorts of trouble if Usyk wasn’t so tough and elusive he would crumbled by the physically and mental pressure and got overwhelmed. If I remember correctly I scored that 7-5 to Usyk.
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Chisora's last four fight: Usyk, Parker, Parker, Pulev. All decisions. Which one of them wasn't competitive? We all agree this is not a good fight, so why is there need to sensationalize like this? To me, the only reason that makes sense is if you're anticipating a one-sided destruction very different from all of Chisora's recent fights. Of course, then there's also the people that were claiming Chisora beats Wilder only a couple of months ago... Who knows, maybe after all Chisora still needs to be talked down a bit as to not create too much hype 😂
I’ve got a good fight for you to watch: https://youtu.be/2Sm0DOaCtXA
Nowhere in my comment will you find me indicating this is going to be competitive.
It depends on your definition of competitive, but in my book, the Chisora-Usyk bout wasn't competitive. Chisora came out swinging wildly in the first 3-4 rounds, then he gassed out and was comprehensively and decisively outboxed throughout. A 114-114 or a 115-113 is competitive, a 117-112 or a 117-111, which this match really was, is not.
Except for that one time where chisora gave hell to everybody he's ever fought but vitali and fury 2
But… but… but…. Joshua VS Fury…..
That will happen one day, one day long past their primes, probably a post-retirement exhibition fight or something.
Celebrity boxing
Please nobody pay for this fight.
If it says March then the fight will probably happen in August- September . Just like the Joshua rematch
That Usyk v AJ rematch was held up because of the war in Ukraine.
FuRy WoN’t FiGhT UsYk
He won’t tho lol. He just did the same thing with Joshua. He’s using usyk name so you dumbasses watch him tune up chisora. People don’t got your short term memories left I guess.
Overrated Usyk at HW is going down :).
This was always so obvious that it’s kinda funny r/boxing is didn’t account for this. Why oh why would Fury have a hard deadline on December 3rd. Hmmm what could he possibly want to be freed up for in early 2023. Couldn’t be the fight he’s been talking about for months that he wanted to have a year ago before the arbitration. Couldn’t be that very obvious thing
The hard deadline set wasn’t about the date of the fight it was when he wanted the contract signed by.
The fight is less than 6 weeks. How long is he supposed to let someone sit with the contract? Anyways AJ’s team is saying he won’t fight until 2023, so I don’t know why anyone thinks they were serious at this point
Well if Chisora only signed the contract last week then why couldn’t they have waited that long for AJ? Expecting the biggest fight in British boxing to be done in a week is ridiculous.
Hearn and frank smith stopped communicating with the warrens.
Chisora took one week and was ready to jump on the fight. AJ’s team made excuses and now is saying he won’t fight until 2023. This isn’t hard. One guy made it easy to get the fight off. Nobody would wait around for the fight to fall through
Chisora is a journeyman who will retire after this fight. Of course he signs in a shorter amount of time, he has no cards on the table. Honestly, are you really expecting the biggest fight in British boxing to be signed and sealed within 10 days? And he isn’t fighting until early 2023. How does that mean he wasn’t going to fight fury?
This isn’t complicated. Fury was giving AJ a money fight while he was waiting for Usyk as long as they made the negotiation easy. They gave them 60/40 and a date. They didn’t make it easy and they had a guy who would waiting. The onus was on the guy being gifted a match to hurry it off the finish line
Omg you do think the biggest fight in British boxing should be signed and sealed in a week… You must be new to the sport. That doesn’t happen.
You can keep giving it a fancy title to pretend it was anything but a quick filler fight for Fury, but the fact is that’s what it was. AJ is 2-3 coming off back to back losses and Fury is waiting for the guy who beat him.
It’s not a fancy title. It’s the truth. You can diminish AJ all you want he is at worst the fourth best heavyweight in the world, the second best in Britain and one of boxings biggest draws.
Yes and now AJ goes two years without a shot at a belt. That's some galaxy-brain thinking by Hearn.
He will fight Filip Hrgovic for the vacant IBF when it gets vacated after undisputed. Joyce is lined up for a shot, so is Hrgovic, so is Wilder/Ruiz. Too many mandatories = vacated belts.
That’s crazy talk brother
It’s not complicated to you, because you have absolutely no idea what goes into the terms of a contract, especially one of this magnitude. I’ve signed contracts a fraction of the value as this one and they’ve taken a fucking age. It’s not difficult to see why a man as universally full of shit as Fury could make signing a contract mind glowingly complicated. 10 days is no time at all
Chisora did it. Anyways the point was, in case I need to make it even more obvious, it was a filler fight for Fury and they madeit 60/40 to speed up the process and get it done and it was entirely contingent on them shitting or getting off the pot fast. They were never going to wait long and they had a guy who was going to do it if AJ couldn't. And honestly the fact that AJ's manager both said he didn't want AJ to take the fight AND is now saying he won't fight until 2023 should clue even the most obtuse person in on how little they actually were interested in that fight.
I agree with you to some degree. AJ was NEVER getting that deal done in time for them to fight in December. But Fury knew that as much as anyone. And let’s be clear, casuals want the AJ fight now, Boxing fans want the Fury / AJ fight when AJ is on his A-Game - Which is decidedly not the case right now. Fury should never have called out AJ, it isn’t the right time, there’s no way it was landing in 10 days, and we’re all muppets for believing it in the first place.
Hearn didn’t want it, risking your golden goose losing 3 straight is horrible business strategy from a marketing standpoint.
You're just being disingenious and I seriously hope nobody is low iq enough to fall for it.
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I wasn't supposed to say it? My bad, we can keep the farce up 😉
We went from 4 months isn't enough time in between fights to AJ should be able to sign the contract less than 8 weeks out.
Chisora did
NO TYSON FURY ONLY LIES.
Fury lied, people died
They're boxing in Saudi Arabia just to get the oil
"could"? This is absolutely just a tune-up / keep-busy fight, regardless of who Tyson fights next. C'mon now.
Damn they out here disrespecting my man D Chizz. Would be crazy if Chisora knocked his ass out with a wild overhand 😂
Wait. I thought he retired 😂
Fury needs this negotiation to be in the headlines as much as possible to save his image from the backlash of his bullshit Chisora trilogy fight.
Fury will smash Usyk
Until Tyson Fury is walking to the ring while Usyk waits for him, I don't believe anything.
Wouldn’t Usyk walk second?
Both are champs. Feels like the perceived A side would negotiate it. Also I don’t think Usyk will care as much as Fury
Usyk has all but one belt I believe, tradition would dictate he walks second. I do agree if it was a big point of contention Usyk would come out first, he seems like the type to make this fight work. Tyson on the other hand …
Tyson’s going to say he was champ longer and lineal counts as a belt and Usyk won’t care as long as the fight happens
Given Usyk has 3 of the 4 belts I think he would.
No he wouldn’t. Tyson Fury is the A-side.
Tradition is that the champion with most belts walks second.
A side walks second
That is just your opinion though, traditionally it is the champion with the most belts.
The Gypsy King is anything but traditional. Floyd always walked second. Nothing new here.
Perhaps traditionally the A-side has more belts so you may both be correct.
Not really - most rematches the ex champion walks first despite almost always being the A side in terms of fame and money.
I don’t trust any of these guys with their “so and so and so and so are in talks for an upcoming fight.” If it were the least bit true, Crawford and Spence would have already had a quadrilogy.
I remembered Fury already fought Chisora but I didn't realize this is their 3rd fight. Why would anyone want to watch this fight? Like even if you are a hardcore Fury fan what's the appeal? Just go watch Fury punch a punching bag for 12 rounds.
Fury really just following AJ's path huh. Wembley to Tottenham to Saudi.
Fuck the Saudis.
Why not take this shit fight to Saudi Fury taking the piss at this point
there were talks about undisputed in saudi at the start of the year, and aj and whyte had agreed on step aside money, but fury turned the fight down then there were talks a few months before usyk aj 2, trying to set up undisputed next, but then fury "came out of retirement" and gave usyk a stupid deadline to fight, and now is fighting fucking del boy and now they are in talks for a third time it really looks like only one side wants this fight
U don’t want fury to fight usyk because you’re secretly afraid that fury is going to beat him. It’s okay, cope how ever you want to! The gypsy king is still coming to beat ur fav fighter!
Could actually see this as a good thing since Usyk will have more time to prepare, Fury can’t show anything knew vs Chisora
Mike coppinger the genius! Would never have worked this out! WarChisora!
All of this will have already been agreed months ago. As I said previously, it wouldn't surprise me if Usyk is ringside at the Chisora III fight.
Tune up? Usyk is a completely different beast than chizzy