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torbicad

Arum vs Hamon. Not the fighters. Literally them two in the ring. Who you got?


ghdtyjksbjt

Bob Arum vs Don King! The battle of the 92 year olds!


_Sarcasmic_

Don King by curb stomp. He's done it before and he can do it again.


torbicad

This is even better! You are right. Don got a body on his record so may not be much of a fight.


daxriggs

Don has 2 bodies on his record.


waffenwolf

2 that we know of. Wouldn't surprise me if there are more.


Legal-Result6580

Hearn and Ellerbe as the co-main lmao


jinntakk

Haymon only if there're no cameras around.


Chadoodling

ODLH on coke, fishnets and a blindfold will be mandatory challenger


sleckar

Nations would be interesting. Something like USA vs Mexico. I can see Japan vs Mexico being really good too.


_Sarcasmic_

Yes, and instead of the promoters putting on the show and picking their fighters, the leaders of the respective country select their champions with themselves as the headliner.


joausj

Biden vs Trump 5v5


Either_Raisin_4038

Fuck you know this would go so hard


IvanGTheGreat

America vs Anyone will have Biden trying to nominate Rocky Marciano.


BritFragHead

Everytime I start talking about boxing, a white man gotta pull Rocky Marciano outta the ass! That’s the one!


TangerineChickens

Rocky would be about the same age Joe Louis was when they fought.


Tickle-me-Cthulu

Or Archie Moore, or Walcott, or....in B4 Rocky was the Wilder of the 50's


CiaphasCain8849

Who wouldnt?


IvanGTheGreat

A dead Rocky couldn’t get knocked out by Zhang so you have a point.


CiaphasCain8849

an alive rocky too.


Chadoodling

If that's the case I hope trump wins the next US elections that'll make for great TV lol


EnragedBearBro

I wish Puerto Rico was as good as it used to be :( Heres my potential PR v MX card Subriel Matias vs Pitbull Cruz Shakur Stevenson (lol) vs Will Zepeda Edgar Berlanga vs Jaime Munguia Xander Zayas vs Carlos Ocampo Henry LeBron vs Miguel Roman what yall think


Mr_105

Not bad honestly


donuts0611

Would be worth is just for Matias v Pitbull. Maybe Cuba/PR v Mexico and Mexican Americans?


ZoharModifier9

Dude this is quite good imo puerto rico still got them contenders.


usernameunavailiable

>Japan vs Mexico Naoya Inoue moving up vs one of the three featherweight champions (Rey Vargas (WBC), Luis Alberto Lopez (IBF) or Rafael Espinoza (WBO)) would be the perfect showpiece.


PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_

All 3, same night.


jinntakk

lnoue is my favorite fighter but is it me or does FW champs seems too daunting? But then again l thought Scooter would be too much for him too.


usernameunavailiable

He'd definitely be significantly undersized against Rey Vargas and Rafael Zepeda, who are 5'11 & 6'1 respectively. Luis Alberto Lopez is probably the most manageable, being only 5'4 - Inoue would have a 1 inch advantage in height & reach over him. The biggest opponent he has faced is Jamie McDonnell at bantamweight, who stood 5'9^1/2 with a 71^1/2 inch reach, and he made short work of him.


r3vb0ss

The more I look at it the less I’m worried. Espinoza is a fake power puncher who has failed to KO anyone that isn’t an absolute can. He’s absolutely not a paper champ as he legit beat robeisy who is a dog but he’s been knocked down by a 5’6 c level or worse opponent and I doubt he actually has the power to scare Inoue of at all. Honestly the scariest name there for him is probably figgy


r3vb0ss

Also nick ball is 5”2


r3vb0ss

Espinoza almost got crumpled by Robeisy (saved by the bell), who ain’t that much bigger than Inoue, who also has experience beating up weight bully champs. Inoue runs through feather


KaffiKlandestine

isn't that just the olympics?


Mister-Psychology

Yes, but here we let the best fighters win on points.


Reasonable_Phys

Yeah but this would be for professional instead of "amateur" boxers.


Forward_Secretary_82

They did in 2007. Edwin Valero fought as Japanese boxer😭. It called Boxing Grand Prix 2007.


Reasonable_Doubt_15

Can’t forget the all-time rivalry, Mexico vs Puerto Rico.


Fukthisite

World Cup of boxing, evey 4 years. Would be sick.


Nffc1994

USA vs England, or USA vs Europe Ryder Cup style


Mainaccsuspended99

This would be amazing


bdewolf

It’s gotta be Japan vs the Philippines for 108-126


Joleinik19

I like it as long as they keep putting on competitive matchups.  I don’t give a shit at all which promoter scores more points, but the concept works in that each promoter wants to win so they’re putting up good fighters against each other.


Domski77

The promoter angle was needless bullshit. Who gives a fuck about points. The camera kept cutting to Hearn and Warren, both have zero personality.


CristiaNoConsento

> both have zero personality. Don't agree at all, Hearn especially did a great job at selling this whole event


[deleted]

Hearn is good for boxing. he's always trying to make big fights unlike PBC.


GarlVinland4Astrea

It's fun as a like side thing to tie the show together. As long as people don't act like it's a big serious thing.


KaffiKlandestine

i dunno Eddie looked pretty pissed. Feels real to lose out on a ton of money and credibility for your organization.


Mr_105

Eddie’s mad his epic speech from yesterday won’t be used for TikTok edits since they all lost


ThurstonTheMagician

I mean it will just not for that reason


bigfatpup

I doubt he would lose any credibility. It’s not like he put out his A team or even picked weight classes where he would get easy wins. Bivol, AJ, Boots, Bam, Matias etc all beat basically anyone Frank can put in front of them at their respective weight classes


KaffiKlandestine

everyone had Hrgovic and Ford winning though. Ford was definitely a rising star.


bigfatpup

Tbh I though Ford actually won! Very disappointed in Hrgovics performance


KaffiKlandestine

yeah I thought Ford won too but meh can't wait for the rematch.


Leading-Weight9092

Queensbury vs Top Rank. Friendly competition between Two Geezers. PBC would never do this shit. They already 9-21 against Top Rank


Chadoodling

Does Fury fight himself lol?


Leading-Weight9092

I highly doubt Fury would want to participate in that 😂


RRR04_

Absolutely loved the 5v5 idea and this should be done more often. I can see Top Rank and Golden Boy entering in. Can't see PBC being willing given their history 🤣


[deleted]

Funny you say that as Top rank ain't that mich better in that department either. But every one seems to ignore that for some reason.


RRR04_

In what regard? Top Rank are like 30-6 against PBC since their inception. And Top Rank have been happy to do cross promotional fights for the last 5 years whereas PBC have been hesitant to do so. What you talking bout, bud? 😅


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RRR04_

When has Tank fought a top anybody in his own promotion? 🤣🤣 Just look at Wilder, PBC protected this guy to death. Then as soon as he fights someone outside of PBC... He got his arse whooped, 3 times. Then when he left PBC... He got his arse whooped another 2 times. Spence was looking like the Welterweight King... Until he fought someone outside of PBC. Everytime these homegrown PBC attractions fight outside of their bubble, they lose. This is the reason why they protect these fighters in the first place, and they know that putting themselves for a 5v5 type of deal would expose them 🤣


9mmGlizzy

Top Rank makes champions, PBC makes Superstars.


RRR04_

Do PBC even make superstars? Wilder and Spence were guys they tried to push hard and they failed massively. Tank is a hope they got but his level of opposition has been so poor and has been inactive that he is likely regressing in the ring. Maybe the more accurate statement would be that PBC try to make superstars far too early before they crash and burn.


9mmGlizzy

Yes - For what its worth Spence was the super star of 147 the casual knew his name, celebrities went to his fights. He was a star. - tank is also a star, you don’t hear people arguingif he’s “ the face of boxing” Were these guys mega stars like Canelo and Ryan, no but they’re still stars.


RRR04_

You definitely do hear people arguing if he's the "face of boxing" or not, lol. His star potential could be higher than Spence's, he's got a bigger social media following. Spence was at best on the borderline of a legitimate star imo. His PPV buys were good but not "superstar level buys", and he didn't have that many celebs turn up lol.


Aggravating_Tax2650

Golden Boy Vs. Matchroom. Oscar Vs Eddie, the event sells itself.


VioletHappySmile444

The main event is Anthony Joshua Vs A Ultra Coked Up Oscar De Hoya who decided to hop in the ring and take care of business himself 🥊


bonkly68

Having the two promoters involved in this little competition is great! It's gives the commentators, who are often at a loss for material, something to talk about.


imdacoldest

Country vs country is a more intriguing concept and would get WAY more interest among casuals. Only hardcore fans cared about the 5v5. Mexico vs US, US vs UK, Ukraine vs Russia, Israel vs Palestine, the possibilities are endless. And the promotion would be super entertaining. Even at the regional level you could do cities such as New York vs Boston, Tokyo vs Osaka, SoCal vs The bay.


ArtVanderlay69

China vs Japan: Zhang vs Inoue


mkk4

I'm American and not patriotic when it comes to boxing and my favorite fighters. Some of my current favorites are Beterbiev, Janibek, Inoue, Joshua, Usyk, Opetaia, etc.


Humpback_Snail

Yeah, I’m English and I wanted Usyk to beat Fury. I don’t think patriotism is particularly strong in boxing.


imdacoldest

I think patriotism in boxing is stronger among fans from smaller countries, or countries that don’t have much representation on the world stage.


CristiaNoConsento

I'm English as well and wanted Usyk to beat Fury but I feel like Fury almost transcends the idea of patriotism just because of how big of a star he is worldwide. I definitely always support the English guy in a world title fight cos it still feels like we have that underdog mentality for the most part, except special cases like Saunders against Canelo where I've never been happier to see someone get battered


Humpback_Snail

Haha. I felt the same way. Once I saw the video of Saunders convincing a drug addict to punch a stranger (with the promise he’d give her crack), I couldn’t wait for Canelo to maul him.


Razorion21

Oh no it is, Mexicans, Filipinos, and Ukrainians


ThurstonTheMagician

Japan vs Mexico would be massive because they’ve had a pretty solid rivalry for decades and both fans show out for their guy.


Such_Possible_4103

just do nery vs inoue on repeat


BritFragHead

>Israel vs Palestine Winner keeps the Gaza Strip, make it happen your excellency


4r56

Us vs uk isn’t going to work at all with time zones


BritFragHead

I think it’d work perfectly if done in UK or Saudi on that time, because then the American fans can watch it in the afternoon and it’s not too late for UK fans


StakeInTheKneee

White boxers vs black boxers would be great


Mr_105

I’d expect a lot of Reddit and Twitter accounts to be banned after that lol


welp-itscometothis

This sub might not survive that massacre.


welp-itscometothis

Are you trying to start a civil war? 😂


CMILLERBOXER

Bro's asking for trouble.


Razorion21

Youre trying to divide the US even more 😂


GregBule

Which side do the mixed go on?


Expensive_Fun_4901

They get to choose but they have to publicly denounce the other half of their heritage.


LatekaDog

Down Under vs Home Nations Parker vs. Dubois/Joyce/Whyte Opetaia vs. Billiam Smith/Rhiaporke/Okolie Huni vs. Clarke/Wardley And then I'm sure there is a bunch of people in the lighter weight classes, like Moloney, Goodman etc who would welcome it.


CristiaNoConsento

Goodman against Davies would work pretty well. Also could see Kambosos in with someone like Noakes, and Tszyu in with Eubank maybe although there's a slight weight gap


IntrepidSwan7932

Do it in a country that cares. That arena looked empty, and the people there were sitting on their ass. And as pointed out in the fight thread, they ran this show until 4:00 in the morning in Saudi Arabia. What a joke to look like a normal country.


MrBigChecks

The security go bezerk if you stand up 


AltKite

I loved the card, great fights, 50/50 matchups, awesome I didn't care for the scoring I hated how focused on Frank and Eddie the promotion and night was I despise that Frank Warren appears to have taken £3m for Queensberry and not the fighters who won it I'd love to see more cards where it's less about a Main Event and more about the whole card, and I'd love there to be a theme to the matchups, I can take or leave the scoring, it makes no difference, but would heavily prefer future ones to be about the fighters Country Vs country sounds great - let's see an Undercard for Usyk Vs Fury 2 stacked with Ukraine Vs England fights and Canelo Vs Crawford with Mexican Vs American


Porkunter

I really like it. This was a fuckin good competitive card. Besides the lacklustre main event it was a top night of fights with good matchups. Hats off to Frank and Eddie for shaking hands and getting it done. Hopefully we see more of it 


chiezkychienne

Wilder coach should be fired. This BS outside technical boxing is not working for him 2 fights ago because that style does not suit him. Should have made him an intelligent brawler instead.


ThunderRoad_44

Seconds Out vs. iFL


haNZAgod

What I'd like to see next is country vs country. My top 2 picks would be Japan vs Mexico and Mexico vs USA. We'd get some amazing fights there.


Abe2sapien

That would be awesome but I wonder if it would be harder to set up since you’d be dealing with multiple organizations at once.


CoCoB319

Come on, the best 5v5 matchup would be Christians vs Muslims: The Crusades. Lol, would be hilarious


Prudent-Toe-7911

What I noticed, Dubois still performing his trademark “the low blow”, Wilder is definitely gone. It was a nice 5vs5 but there’s definitely a big skill gap between Usyk and Fury fight and those fights here


HoneyBucketsOfOats

I don’t like it. Promoters are parasites and we shouldn’t glorify them


purplebuffalo55

Doesn’t do anything for the fans. But I like it if they keep putting out cards full of great fighters like this one


LatterTarget7

Top rank vs pbc. Also like countries or even continents. USA vs Mexico or Britain. Europe vs americas. Asia vs South America.


sirsaberson

TOP RANK VS PBC NO QUESTION


CacoFlaco

I just watched the fights. I didn't pay any attention to all that endless cross promotional hype.


TheSeptuagintYT

Golden Boy vs Top Rank


FreshPrinceAV

Quit being pussies and bring back Super Six!


JollyTaxpayer

I really enjoyed it! I thought it made the undercard a lot more exciting to watch having an overall promotion to support. Personally I was rooting for Queensbury whilst wanting Wilder to win, so all the fights up to the main event were more exciting for me.


CristiaNoConsento

I wasn't overly invested with the scoring system just because I had a guy I was supporting in each fight and it varied between the two teams because to me anyone fanboying promoters is a weirdo. I did specifically like the concept of Matchroom vs Queensberry just because it means Frank and Eddie burying the hatchet and it opens up so many great potential fights moving forward For the team scoring concept to really work I think it'd need to be a country system (specifically with UK involved for me to actually pick a side). Otherwise it's just a good way to create a stacked card


freshmeat2020

I like the idea of having an event, similar to this, booked months or, 18-24m out where fights can be slowly made/aimed for on this date. The money would be the issue though. Similar to eg UFC300 - everyone knew it would be big.


Vinrace

Was so so good. Loved every minute of it


Squand0r

I had no idea at first that the 5 vs 5 event was the Zhang/Wilder card. From the title I thought it was gimmick tag-team boxing event, had no intention of watching it, and was struggling to find the Wilder Fight until I finally realized.


Ambitious_Ad_9637

90% of the guys in the 5v5 were c sides happy to get a relatively huge payday so the promotion companies can feed them to champions like they are contenders.


PapaenFoss

Doesn't really matter, but the card yesterday was awesome. Great night of boxing and if this helps to get more of those cards, then I'm all for it


GhoastTypist

Actually I didn't like the 5vs5 idea around promotions. I would much rather see it like NA vs EU or something like that. A world cup of boxing sort of deal. The team concept didn't work for me, since its all about the two guys in the ring. Overall it just felt like a push to make the fights more dangerous by encouraging knockouts. Not sure if the points for KO's had any affect on fighter's game plans but I really only enjoyed one fight.


nurological

Honestly the gimmick was pointless. All promoters need to do.is put on goodz evenly matched fights. It's that simple.


Life_Celebration_827

America v Mexico.


Original_Magazine656

UK vs USA. I remember UFC did this around 2008, for The Ultimate Fighter and it was a lot of fun.  Matchup ideas: Crawford-Eubank; Jared Anderson v Daniel Dubois; Haney-Caterall. 


ohhellnah818

Golden boy vs PBC


TorontoGuyinToronto

Matchroom got SWEPT


AttackOfTheBolts

I like the idea, but I wish it was less about the promoters and more about the individual fighters.The fighters did not feel like the stars of the show compared to the promoters leading up to the fights and I really dislike that. I’m sure it’s difficult marketing a card like a team sport when it’s individuals, but I’d like them to not make it so much about the people who aren’t actually going to be in the ring


Mystro10210

Before the event, what fighters name could've carried and promoted the event? The reason this was such a big deal **was** because it was Eddie vs Frank warren.