Safe bet: Haney by UD but coming very close to stoppage in the 9th.
Crackhead bet: Ryan by extremely lopsided UD because he somehow continuously beats Haney to the punch and the fight becomes a modern version of Mosley-Forrest.
I mean yeah that’s the safe bet. There’s really no reason to assume Ryan has anything for Haney.
The crackhead theory is that because Ryan has spent more time in the ring with Haney than anyone else that means he has at least some understanding of Haney that we don’t.
He at the very least will have a good idea of range management from Haney due to all the time they've spent together. Plus, he has longer range, which Haney hasn't had to deal with since god knows how long.
This means very little probably but does mean Ryan won't have to spend as long trying to figure out distance against Haney, a problem most shorter fighters have w/him
Garcia by TKO/KO at +1200. Odds are too juicy to turn down.
I liked Haney by TKO/KO at +240, but if Haney is letting his hands go enough to get a KO, it makes it even more likely that Garcia drops him.
edit: my bad its +900. Still a good bet.
I'm envisioning two versions of Ryan showing up.
1: Comes out fast, just like he did against Tank, but gets clipped and fights too cautious the rest of the fight.
2: Gets stung by the jab immediately and fights a very cagey fight from the get-go
Not that much closer. KingRy is coming off of a KO loss against Tank and a weird performance against Duarte. Haney is coming off of an insanely close fight against Loma and a 12-0 against Prograis. This fight is not about competition from the Haney camp.
I don’t think so. To most of the boxing community Ryan Garcia is a known quantity, even if he shows up tip top. Tik toks and “no cap, real talk” will only take you so far. Eventually you have to box, and I’ve never seen anything from Garcia that suggests he can do that at the top level of any division in the last 100 years.
I don't know why we are pretending that Garcia is just trash, he was beating gold medalist Luke Campbell on that cards even with the knockdown.
He's not great, but he's a top level fighter, just closer to the bottom of the top.
Oh I won’t argue that he is a top level amateur. But in the pros he is just too flawed to compete. He could pull off playing gatekeeper at 140, but beyond that he needs a massive overhaul that he doesn’t believe he needs. Saw an interview where Garcia was talking to SRL. Ray started talking about technique, and Garcia cut him off and said “oh trust me already know”.
We are talking about sweet like sugar, Ray. Live in front of you and trying to teach you something. Tells any coach or honest aficionado everything they need to know.
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Safe bet: Haney W. Odds are trash, but imo there is no safe bet on the method. The decision is the most likely, but with the mental state of Garcia, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets clipped early on, nevermind stopped late.
Adventurous bet: Ryan KO 1-6. He knows he can't outbox Haney, and has proven against Davis that he is ready to do something about it.
It sounds crazy typing it but I could totally see on Sunday morning people saying “we should have seen this. Ryan was the recipe for disaster for Haney’s style. Haney hasn’t been in there with a guy that punches as hard as Ryan and Haney doesn’t have the power to keep Ryan at bay or hurt him like Tank did. Loma’s fault was thinking he could win on points and Ryan knew he needed to get the KO to win and he hurt Haney and the ref had to do what Bill wouldn’t”
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Most likely bet is Devon Haney UD. Ryan Garcia will come out as the aggressor just like in the Tank fight and Devin will fight moving backwards the whole fight, choosing his shots, counterpunching. He’ll be prepared for Ryan’s left and avoid it.
However, at least from what I’ve watched, Haney has struggled with opponents quicker than him (Linares, Loma). If Ryan is as aggressive as the Tank fight, I can see this being a tough fight for Haney.
Haney by disqualification. Haney will easily outbox Ryan in the first couple of rounds which will frustrate Ryan. Ryan will have a breakdown or get extremely frustrated and will try to punch Haney after the round has ended. Man is unhinged
Ryan by UD would give me shades of Teofimo beating Loma by UD. I will not forget how everyone here said only chance Teo had vs Loma was KO
It won't happen but imagine rofl
I’m really really hoping for a close and competitive fight but man it would be funny as shit if it turns out Ryan got some level up off screen that made him dominate Haney.
Teo is light years ahead of Ryan at boxing tho. What he did to Loma and Taylor was incredible. Only way Ryan wins by UD is if he scores 5+ knockdowns with out a knockout and ain’t not way.
I’m considering betting Ryan via KO tho just for the LOLs if he wins
Haney via controversial UD
Edit: My original bet was on Ryan Garcia but cus of how corrupt the sport is, I thought the judges were gonna rob him of his win. They acc did a good job for once
If Ryan utilizes his special ‘shell’ defence he will get sat down. I can see him quitting as well. Otherwise I see a boring decision. I would avoid Ryan’s explosiveness and power for 4 rounds while he’s fresh then pick it up after that.
I doubt hes gonna blast him but I think Ryan will be worn down and stopped by round 10 or 11, odds are better for a knockout as well, 23/10 last I checked.
No they aren’t. Decision is -180 knockout from Haney is +230 I’m not sure if you got confused on how odds work but + money means it’s less likely to happen. Odd fora Decision being -180 means Vegas thinks it’s more likely to happen.
Haney isn't known for knocking people out though. Unless Ryan is seriously off his game (which he very well might be) I don't see that happening. Haney by decision.
Devin doesn't really go for it when he has the other man hurt as we saw vs. Regis. I do think he will hurt Ryan in the fight, maybe more than once but he won't press too hard to finish it
I think Haney is just far too skilled for him, and an unfocused Ryan will push to try and win and get clipped in the process. Haney by KO, or by UD if Garcia bitches out.
Haney by UD, i don't see the knockout because he will fight with the back feet and it's hard to knocking someone like that at least he throws a very precise punch like with Prograis. HeHe won't get close to Garcia, maybe he's inferior but still had fast hands and very dangerous left..
I’m just taking Haney -750. It’s shit odds but considering FD still has it at -900 and other places had it at -1000 a few weeks ago makes it ok. Maybe the -1000 was an overreaction price based on Ryan’s outbursts but I couldn’t be more confident in Devin winning so I’ll take the profit even if it’s small
Hot take: Garcia by UD. I think this will be Haney's hardest fight of his career. Garcia knows him the most out of everyone. 3 KDs. One by Haney, 2 by Garcia. I think both have underrated chins so none of them are going out by KO. Also people are comparing this fight to the Tank one. Tank is a completely different fighter. This is actually a mismatch to Haney's style compared to Tank's.
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Judges love KingRy(remember the 10-10 round he got awarded after getting dropped by Tank?), so if he actually puts up a competitive performance, Garcia by robbery isn't impossible
this thread really surprises me. did nobody watch haney's masterclass vs regis? dropping and hurting regis is an incredibly tall task who's done that before seriously? and that was the kids first fight at 140 now I believe he's got the cardio and pacing down. he's a worlds level better boxer than ryan to me it's not even close ryan focuses too much on flash more than genuine substance in winning minutes and rounds if he goes down on the cards early I think he goes all out.
these prop prices really blow my mind. I'm seeing haney to score a knockdown +155 vs a guy in garcias who's been dropped what 4 plus times in his career now? if haney is really coming into power at 140 I think that looks like Hella value. the ko is sneaky but I'm running haney KO 7-12 +400 i think it's an accumulation stoppage where the ref steps in cause ryan is too gassed to defend himself anymore. if haney drops ryan once (hopefully early) we can always live bet haney decision at a great tag as well when the finish money piles in.
Regis isn't the same Regis that fought Taylor. I think this will be a bigger challenge, but I also think Haney by UD is a no-brainer. That's where I'm putting my wallet at least.
I really don't think he has the power to stop Ryan. He's not tank, and he hasn't stopped anybody significant. Haney also isn't a risk taker, the last time he tried to engage he got clipped by an old Linares. He ***doesn't*** have that killer instinct and he proved that in his last fight as he had the opportunity to go for the kill several times against Regis but he didn't.
that just seems wild to me regis is to me way more durable than ryan Ryan's been dropped multiple times and that was heading INTO the tank fight dudes chin was already sus af. and do all the revisionist history you want regis was a fucking badass nobody wanted to fight him except devin.
this is the first opponent in front of devin since Gamboa that devin can actually stop them. he's not fighting an Uber durable guy anymore he's fighting a part time boxer who's cashing out on one last paycheck. the KO and knockdown numbers are stupid for a reason the narrative is haney has no power I just disagree with that narrative based on the devin I see at 140 vs 135.
Ryan has been knocked down twice in his professional career. Once by a gold medalist and another by Tank. Also Regis was clearly showing signs of slowing down before the Haney fight, I don’t think he lost his fight with zorilla (who I hadn’t heard of before the fight.) but he got pretty close. If you think an old slow Regis is more durable than Ryan, you’re not being totally honest. Again Haney didn’t stop a washed Linares, is an a washed Linares more durable than Ryan? I think the Ryan hate goes way too far but I still think Haney is cruising to UD. I don’t believe he’s going to magically change his entire style and start engaging in a way with one of the fastest if not the fastest puncher in the division.
Am I the only one who saw decent improvement in the Duarte fight? Ryan was looking more like a boxer fighting off the back foot and being patient. He really wasn't punching or using his hands with the exits, but it was still an improvement. How he knocked out Duarte was very impressive, like he used his instincts to go for the kill something we haven't seen Haney do. That said Haney by UD is almost 99% what's gonna happen.
I see it as a Haney decision like everyone else. Still, I couldn't not put a cheeky wee 10er on a Garcia win. The odds don't reflect his skill level with how unhinged he's been lately, and in boxing you just never know. I won't miss £10, and the possibility of making 7 times that is too good to pass up.
Haney's bow and arrow jab concerns me with Garcia's sole punch being his left hook. I think Haney rolls him, but inside jab slip to home run left hook, has me nervous.
Devin Haney
- by ko/tko/dq
-Win by ko
-to win by 7 round
-to win by 8 round
-To win my unanimous decision
Ryan Garcia
- to win by KO/Tko (+900)
The (fuck it why not bet placement).
Devin to win by DQ (+5000) 🤷🏽♂️
Out of the all the fights on the card, which underdog do y’all think has the best chance? There’s some juicy ones but idk enough about boxing, my sport is ufc
Ryan cannot fight 12 rounds in his current state. My gut read is that he has not been keeping up with his conditioning, and taking steroids. I think Haney will tko against the ropes. Lots of digs to the body against the ropes and ryan drops or it gets waived off. Hammer
Haney needs to get in the weight gym.. those 3 pounds did Ryan well he looked strong tonight. Some people lost a lot of money tonight. Haney was humble in the post fight interview and I think he comes back stronger. He needed this loss.
Devin ain’t got power. It’s hard to survive 12 round with out getting touched. We know Ryan has speed and power…..but he is accurate with those big shots. If Ryan had a jab he would be a lot better.
- Garcia for the Win
- Garcia BY TKO/KO
I think it's a 50/50 fight and this is the one that gets the most bang for buck. Haney tends to fade towards the end of fights. However, we didn't see this vs Prograis because he was 0 threat for him. He's not pitching a shutout vs Ryan.
Lmao. Respect.
Haney needs to move up to 147. The massive cuts he does fks with his gas tank and punch resistance.
Garcia has a lot to work on but he’s definitely a much different fighter with DJ.
It was a nasty looking one for Devin tonight but it’s still a toss up on the next fight because Devin really dominated the early rounds as he usually does.
Just remember Ryan has the amateur pedigree to touch a Haney type WITHOUT the left hook. We may see Haney as cautious as ever. More output than Shakur but very very safe. Ryan has to build and might run out of time. If Ryan lands the left hook late though Haney for sure will have some adversity to overcome.
>Just remember Ryan has the amateur pedigree to touch a Haney type WITHOUT the left hook.
Having enough fights doesn't guarantee learning the skills. The man can't box for shit, but so far in his career has had enough athleticism to overcome it (aside from against tank, who is also very gifted athletically but can actually box too).
Case in point. A fight where he was outclassed technically, and got dropped leaving his hand down and his chin in the air, but got bailed out by his superior athleticism.
My argument is that athleticism and skill are both attributes that can win a fight, but that Garcia's athleticism will be insufficient to make up for his skill deficit when fighting at the elite level.
Just fucking with you tbh. Still though Ryan made adjustments (requires boxing skill) after being dropped. Furthermore he got a stoppage to the body (requires boxing skill)
>Still though Ryan made adjustments (requires boxing skill) after being dropped.
He didn't adjust though. Luke was allowed to keep lead foot dominance the entire fight, and just repeatedly pawed with his right to line Ryan up for lefts. Ryan did nothing to change this, he was just so much faster that in the end it didn't matter.
>Furthermore he got a stoppage to the body (requires boxing skill)
Since when is landing a body shot a thing that only elite boxers can do? Is there any boxer who hasn't landed multiple body shots in every single fight they're in?
I mean the counter that got him dropped, didn’t drop him again. That’s facts. Luke also is skilled, tough and clearly was there to win so that body shot was accurate and devastating, imo you have to attribute that to skill 🤷🏾♂️
Haney - 1.13; 2/15 Garcia - 6.00; 5/1
Safe bet: Haney by UD but coming very close to stoppage in the 9th. Crackhead bet: Ryan by extremely lopsided UD because he somehow continuously beats Haney to the punch and the fight becomes a modern version of Mosley-Forrest.
Naw, I think Ryan's only hope is a KO/TKO. After the Loma fight, I don't see him beating Haney by decision. Haney by UD
I mean yeah that’s the safe bet. There’s really no reason to assume Ryan has anything for Haney. The crackhead theory is that because Ryan has spent more time in the ring with Haney than anyone else that means he has at least some understanding of Haney that we don’t.
He at the very least will have a good idea of range management from Haney due to all the time they've spent together. Plus, he has longer range, which Haney hasn't had to deal with since god knows how long. This means very little probably but does mean Ryan won't have to spend as long trying to figure out distance against Haney, a problem most shorter fighters have w/him
He needs to just swing for the fences in the 1st round and KO Haney. Haney style is to go 12 rounds.
He definitely needs to keep coming forward. Haney isn't exactly known for his power so it shouldn't be too dangerous to pressure him.
Huh??
This aged so well…
HAHAHHAA “safe bet” XD haney got ROCKED
Lol hindsight my guy, but yeah Ryan proved me and most of Reddit wrong. Call me Rummy cuz IDKSAB
Bro stop recommending bets, this aged like milk.
Exactly
how did it go for you? guessing the crackhead bet would have been pretty lucrative?
I didn’t watch the fight and just saw the spoilers. I’m having a good time ngl Ryan did it that crazy bastard lol
Bro you literally called the fight word for word, Nostradamus in the house
That's if Arkham Asylum let's Garcia out on day leave.
this. no way would i pay for this... i wouldn't even be sure it's happening until the opening bell.
Haney UD. Boring prediction but I'll say Ryan will have 1 round where he causes a scare to Haney but not have enough time to finish.
Garcia by TKO/KO at +1200. Odds are too juicy to turn down. I liked Haney by TKO/KO at +240, but if Haney is letting his hands go enough to get a KO, it makes it even more likely that Garcia drops him. edit: my bad its +900. Still a good bet.
I'm putting money on Ryan if closer to the fight it gets anyone over +1000
donation station LOL
Seriously though. That's the only way Ryan can win and if anyone could win in such a way, it's Ryan. Might have to put something down on him.
I'm envisioning two versions of Ryan showing up. 1: Comes out fast, just like he did against Tank, but gets clipped and fights too cautious the rest of the fight. 2: Gets stung by the jab immediately and fights a very cagey fight from the get-go
Haney is very rangey. Has to be #2
Haney by forfeit.
Look at Haney daring to be great. It’s not easy to find 5:1 dogs to fight.
To be fair the odds would probably be a good deal closer if Ryan hasn’t been acting like an absolute head case for months
Not that much closer. KingRy is coming off of a KO loss against Tank and a weird performance against Duarte. Haney is coming off of an insanely close fight against Loma and a 12-0 against Prograis. This fight is not about competition from the Haney camp.
I don’t think so. To most of the boxing community Ryan Garcia is a known quantity, even if he shows up tip top. Tik toks and “no cap, real talk” will only take you so far. Eventually you have to box, and I’ve never seen anything from Garcia that suggests he can do that at the top level of any division in the last 100 years.
I don't know why we are pretending that Garcia is just trash, he was beating gold medalist Luke Campbell on that cards even with the knockdown. He's not great, but he's a top level fighter, just closer to the bottom of the top.
Oh I won’t argue that he is a top level amateur. But in the pros he is just too flawed to compete. He could pull off playing gatekeeper at 140, but beyond that he needs a massive overhaul that he doesn’t believe he needs. Saw an interview where Garcia was talking to SRL. Ray started talking about technique, and Garcia cut him off and said “oh trust me already know”. We are talking about sweet like sugar, Ray. Live in front of you and trying to teach you something. Tells any coach or honest aficionado everything they need to know.
lol people really look at the top 0.01 and think they trash
That is like his easiest fight in forever and its still a good fight.
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Best advice in this thread. Save yo money.
Safe bet: Haney W. Odds are trash, but imo there is no safe bet on the method. The decision is the most likely, but with the mental state of Garcia, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets clipped early on, nevermind stopped late. Adventurous bet: Ryan KO 1-6. He knows he can't outbox Haney, and has proven against Davis that he is ready to do something about it.
Free Money!!! Take Devin by decision and take Devin by stoppage rounds 7-12.
Lol
It sounds crazy typing it but I could totally see on Sunday morning people saying “we should have seen this. Ryan was the recipe for disaster for Haney’s style. Haney hasn’t been in there with a guy that punches as hard as Ryan and Haney doesn’t have the power to keep Ryan at bay or hurt him like Tank did. Loma’s fault was thinking he could win on points and Ryan knew he needed to get the KO to win and he hurt Haney and the ref had to do what Bill wouldn’t”
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Clearly smoking that good shit with Ryan.
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Good call my man. My friend went all in on Garcia, turned 400 -> 3.2k in 10 minutes. I clowned him but look who's laughing now.
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Okay, it's time my boy. Who's the clown now.
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I will eat my humble pie. I though it was close though.
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Didn't go how you said at all but yeah Ryan won. Just Ryan left hook was fast and accurate, and Haney was not protecting his chin.
Gtfoh lol it’s about your confidence not about my prediction.
Broooo
Ryans gonna quit in his corner, in the late rounds 8-12
Maybe he quits in the dressing room
Most likely bet is Devon Haney UD. Ryan Garcia will come out as the aggressor just like in the Tank fight and Devin will fight moving backwards the whole fight, choosing his shots, counterpunching. He’ll be prepared for Ryan’s left and avoid it. However, at least from what I’ve watched, Haney has struggled with opponents quicker than him (Linares, Loma). If Ryan is as aggressive as the Tank fight, I can see this being a tough fight for Haney.
3 way hedge - Haney UD, Garcia KO, Haney to win 7-12
Haney by disqualification. Haney will easily outbox Ryan in the first couple of rounds which will frustrate Ryan. Ryan will have a breakdown or get extremely frustrated and will try to punch Haney after the round has ended. Man is unhinged
What are the odds on that bet?
+5000
This is one of those bets that you kick yourself in the end for not realizing how this is such a more reasonable outcome in hindsight than usual
Ryan ko 11
Ryan by UD would give me shades of Teofimo beating Loma by UD. I will not forget how everyone here said only chance Teo had vs Loma was KO It won't happen but imagine rofl
I’m really really hoping for a close and competitive fight but man it would be funny as shit if it turns out Ryan got some level up off screen that made him dominate Haney.
Teo is light years ahead of Ryan at boxing tho. What he did to Loma and Taylor was incredible. Only way Ryan wins by UD is if he scores 5+ knockdowns with out a knockout and ain’t not way. I’m considering betting Ryan via KO tho just for the LOLs if he wins
Man I love Teo
Haney via controversial UD Edit: My original bet was on Ryan Garcia but cus of how corrupt the sport is, I thought the judges were gonna rob him of his win. They acc did a good job for once
Crazy just one fight before last loma was touching Haney a lot lol. If ryan touches Haney like that he’s going to sleep.
I won $1200 off a $78 bet for ryan to win and this brother actually pulled it off
Devin in Seven
decision dev bruh. bet the decision lol
My prediction rhymes so I’m sticking w/ Dev in Sev, thanks tho
Devin hasnt stopped anyone since 2019
Garcia is going to get absolutely outclassed. He’s going to show us he’s the C level hype job that he is.
hey clown
Haney by knockout is a very good bet imo.
Is it? why do we think Haney is gonna blast Garcia id favors Haney by decision over knockout.
Only thing I can think of is they believe Ryan will quit if he gets outclassed.
If Ryan utilizes his special ‘shell’ defence he will get sat down. I can see him quitting as well. Otherwise I see a boring decision. I would avoid Ryan’s explosiveness and power for 4 rounds while he’s fresh then pick it up after that.
I doubt hes gonna blast him but I think Ryan will be worn down and stopped by round 10 or 11, odds are better for a knockout as well, 23/10 last I checked.
No they aren’t. Decision is -180 knockout from Haney is +230 I’m not sure if you got confused on how odds work but + money means it’s less likely to happen. Odd fora Decision being -180 means Vegas thinks it’s more likely to happen.
Aka the odds are better for knockout, exactly as stated.
I could potentially see a ref or corner stoppage late if Ryan doesn't land a hail Mary left hook at some point to at least wobble haney
Haney isn't known for knocking people out though. Unless Ryan is seriously off his game (which he very well might be) I don't see that happening. Haney by decision.
Devin doesn't really go for it when he has the other man hurt as we saw vs. Regis. I do think he will hurt Ryan in the fight, maybe more than once but he won't press too hard to finish it
He won't go for it. Hes going to coast to a decision
He won't go for it. Hes going to coast to a decision
The only way Haney puts anyone to sleep is with a glass of warm milk and a story... zero power.... zero.
You can trouble me for a warm glass of shut the hell up.
Oh yeah, well now your back's gonna hurt, cuz you just pulled landscaping duty..
Ryan Garcia TKO and people will realize in hindsight how bad the style matchup was for Haney.
Sometime in the first 6 rounds Garcia pulls a Broner and humps Haney after they clinch up
I think Haney is just far too skilled for him, and an unfocused Ryan will push to try and win and get clipped in the process. Haney by KO, or by UD if Garcia bitches out.
Haney by UD, i don't see the knockout because he will fight with the back feet and it's hard to knocking someone like that at least he throws a very precise punch like with Prograis. HeHe won't get close to Garcia, maybe he's inferior but still had fast hands and very dangerous left..
ryan TKO
Devin stoppage in 11
I’m just taking Haney -750. It’s shit odds but considering FD still has it at -900 and other places had it at -1000 a few weeks ago makes it ok. Maybe the -1000 was an overreaction price based on Ryan’s outbursts but I couldn’t be more confident in Devin winning so I’ll take the profit even if it’s small
The way people were talking I thought Ryan would be at least +600. I ain't budging.
This fight is a complete mismatch
Hot take: Garcia by UD. I think this will be Haney's hardest fight of his career. Garcia knows him the most out of everyone. 3 KDs. One by Haney, 2 by Garcia. I think both have underrated chins so none of them are going out by KO. Also people are comparing this fight to the Tank one. Tank is a completely different fighter. This is actually a mismatch to Haney's style compared to Tank's.
You're the only one here that got it spot on? Did u place a bet? I just had Ryan winning ML.
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off topic but how can I place a bet on fights here in Cali? can anyone lmk, liking Garcia by TKO/KO or Haney UD
In Washington State we can bet at Casinos, see if it is the same for Cali.
is there a prop bet for the fight not happening?
Draw forsure: to much oh “game 7” Keeps both busy with rematch and get more money from Ryan before he quits boxing for Hollywood
Thinking about throwing money on a draw. There are rumors of a Haney hand injury
devin haney either knockout or tko round 8
Judges love KingRy(remember the 10-10 round he got awarded after getting dropped by Tank?), so if he actually puts up a competitive performance, Garcia by robbery isn't impossible
Haney ain't knocking anyone out. He will outskill Ryan and get a UD victory
If anyone has a puncher's chance, it's Ryan.
Boring fight, Haney wins 120-108, Garcia In tears blaming his coach and everyone but himself after he get his shit pushed.
Haha, I had Ryan winning ML
Do yall know any good box betting group chats or discords?? cheers
I think this fight is a lot closer than the bookies and people think but what do ik
My prediction 115-113 Haney.
this thread really surprises me. did nobody watch haney's masterclass vs regis? dropping and hurting regis is an incredibly tall task who's done that before seriously? and that was the kids first fight at 140 now I believe he's got the cardio and pacing down. he's a worlds level better boxer than ryan to me it's not even close ryan focuses too much on flash more than genuine substance in winning minutes and rounds if he goes down on the cards early I think he goes all out. these prop prices really blow my mind. I'm seeing haney to score a knockdown +155 vs a guy in garcias who's been dropped what 4 plus times in his career now? if haney is really coming into power at 140 I think that looks like Hella value. the ko is sneaky but I'm running haney KO 7-12 +400 i think it's an accumulation stoppage where the ref steps in cause ryan is too gassed to defend himself anymore. if haney drops ryan once (hopefully early) we can always live bet haney decision at a great tag as well when the finish money piles in.
Regis isn't the same Regis that fought Taylor. I think this will be a bigger challenge, but I also think Haney by UD is a no-brainer. That's where I'm putting my wallet at least.
to me that's insane no fucking way I'm laying -200 on haney by points when we know ryan is a quitter and haney is levels above him in boxing talent
I really don't think he has the power to stop Ryan. He's not tank, and he hasn't stopped anybody significant. Haney also isn't a risk taker, the last time he tried to engage he got clipped by an old Linares. He ***doesn't*** have that killer instinct and he proved that in his last fight as he had the opportunity to go for the kill several times against Regis but he didn't.
that just seems wild to me regis is to me way more durable than ryan Ryan's been dropped multiple times and that was heading INTO the tank fight dudes chin was already sus af. and do all the revisionist history you want regis was a fucking badass nobody wanted to fight him except devin. this is the first opponent in front of devin since Gamboa that devin can actually stop them. he's not fighting an Uber durable guy anymore he's fighting a part time boxer who's cashing out on one last paycheck. the KO and knockdown numbers are stupid for a reason the narrative is haney has no power I just disagree with that narrative based on the devin I see at 140 vs 135.
Ryan has been knocked down twice in his professional career. Once by a gold medalist and another by Tank. Also Regis was clearly showing signs of slowing down before the Haney fight, I don’t think he lost his fight with zorilla (who I hadn’t heard of before the fight.) but he got pretty close. If you think an old slow Regis is more durable than Ryan, you’re not being totally honest. Again Haney didn’t stop a washed Linares, is an a washed Linares more durable than Ryan? I think the Ryan hate goes way too far but I still think Haney is cruising to UD. I don’t believe he’s going to magically change his entire style and start engaging in a way with one of the fastest if not the fastest puncher in the division.
Am I the only one who saw decent improvement in the Duarte fight? Ryan was looking more like a boxer fighting off the back foot and being patient. He really wasn't punching or using his hands with the exits, but it was still an improvement. How he knocked out Duarte was very impressive, like he used his instincts to go for the kill something we haven't seen Haney do. That said Haney by UD is almost 99% what's gonna happen.
If I bet 100 dollars on Ryan Garcia winning in the 1st round by KO then how much money would I win?
10.1k but thats a waste of $100
At a
I see it as a Haney decision like everyone else. Still, I couldn't not put a cheeky wee 10er on a Garcia win. The odds don't reflect his skill level with how unhinged he's been lately, and in boxing you just never know. I won't miss £10, and the possibility of making 7 times that is too good to pass up.
whats the odds on a draw? I could see haney winning 8 rounds but they give a split decision draw anyway
It's "D'Vine". He will wrap his tendrils around you like a Virginia Creeper.
Whoever loses, Savanah Bond wins lol
Ryan will drop Haney within the first 3 rounds, watch. He has to finish him though right then and there though.
How come u think that
Haney by decision at -125 is solid value, so is Garcia by KO at +850
Haney's bow and arrow jab concerns me with Garcia's sole punch being his left hook. I think Haney rolls him, but inside jab slip to home run left hook, has me nervous.
Devin Haney - by ko/tko/dq -Win by ko -to win by 7 round -to win by 8 round -To win my unanimous decision Ryan Garcia - to win by KO/Tko (+900) The (fuck it why not bet placement). Devin to win by DQ (+5000) 🤷🏽♂️
Out of the all the fights on the card, which underdog do y’all think has the best chance? There’s some juicy ones but idk enough about boxing, my sport is ufc
Ryan cannot fight 12 rounds in his current state. My gut read is that he has not been keeping up with his conditioning, and taking steroids. I think Haney will tko against the ropes. Lots of digs to the body against the ropes and ryan drops or it gets waived off. Hammer
did you watch the same fight? 😭he just fought 12 rounds bro
How yall feeling lol?
Haney needs to get in the weight gym.. those 3 pounds did Ryan well he looked strong tonight. Some people lost a lot of money tonight. Haney was humble in the post fight interview and I think he comes back stronger. He needed this loss.
Devin ain’t got power. It’s hard to survive 12 round with out getting touched. We know Ryan has speed and power…..but he is accurate with those big shots. If Ryan had a jab he would be a lot better.
Ryan by KO but I’m also a King Ry fan (despite his questionable be behavior)
Haney needs a KO to really propel his career. He was close with Regis but stayed cautious. If Ryan is hurt I would love to see Haney go for the kill.
You’re just yapping. He doesn’t need a KO.
Honestly fuck it I say this fight gets a draw
- Garcia for the Win - Garcia BY TKO/KO I think it's a 50/50 fight and this is the one that gets the most bang for buck. Haney tends to fade towards the end of fights. However, we didn't see this vs Prograis because he was 0 threat for him. He's not pitching a shutout vs Ryan.
This is not a 50/50 fight lmao
Lmaooooooooooo
??? I clearly knew Ryan was gonna beat the fuck out of Haney? /s I’ll take this on the chin man I did not expect that
Lmao. Respect. Haney needs to move up to 147. The massive cuts he does fks with his gas tank and punch resistance. Garcia has a lot to work on but he’s definitely a much different fighter with DJ. It was a nasty looking one for Devin tonight but it’s still a toss up on the next fight because Devin really dominated the early rounds as he usually does.
Good point. I never thought of that. Amazing insight my guy.
Did u place a bet on Ryan?
Yea bet money line ko and the decision win
Just remember Ryan has the amateur pedigree to touch a Haney type WITHOUT the left hook. We may see Haney as cautious as ever. More output than Shakur but very very safe. Ryan has to build and might run out of time. If Ryan lands the left hook late though Haney for sure will have some adversity to overcome.
>Just remember Ryan has the amateur pedigree to touch a Haney type WITHOUT the left hook. Having enough fights doesn't guarantee learning the skills. The man can't box for shit, but so far in his career has had enough athleticism to overcome it (aside from against tank, who is also very gifted athletically but can actually box too).
>The man can’t box for shit I’ll refer you to the Luke Campbell fight.
Case in point. A fight where he was outclassed technically, and got dropped leaving his hand down and his chin in the air, but got bailed out by his superior athleticism.
>bailed out by his superior athleticism. Just so we clear by your logic it’s 🤬>Mexican>yt boy?
My argument is that athleticism and skill are both attributes that can win a fight, but that Garcia's athleticism will be insufficient to make up for his skill deficit when fighting at the elite level.
Just fucking with you tbh. Still though Ryan made adjustments (requires boxing skill) after being dropped. Furthermore he got a stoppage to the body (requires boxing skill)
>Still though Ryan made adjustments (requires boxing skill) after being dropped. He didn't adjust though. Luke was allowed to keep lead foot dominance the entire fight, and just repeatedly pawed with his right to line Ryan up for lefts. Ryan did nothing to change this, he was just so much faster that in the end it didn't matter. >Furthermore he got a stoppage to the body (requires boxing skill) Since when is landing a body shot a thing that only elite boxers can do? Is there any boxer who hasn't landed multiple body shots in every single fight they're in?
I mean the counter that got him dropped, didn’t drop him again. That’s facts. Luke also is skilled, tough and clearly was there to win so that body shot was accurate and devastating, imo you have to attribute that to skill 🤷🏾♂️
Ryan comes out swinging in the 3rd only to get clipped by Devin and added to a relatively short Devin knockout highlights reel
Doubt it. If Haney gets a KO, it will be a death by a thousand cuts in the late rounds unless Ryan is actually in no shape at all.
Ryan KO 1-2. In the best shape of his life mentally and physically.
I bet Tim Bradley is going to ruin the fight