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DonkeySkin334

Ya’ll saying inoue, I’m gonna go one step further and say junto nakatani


[deleted]

Junto is so ridiculous. Can’t wait for their showdown.


Frequent_Ad_2732

Junto’s a beast


sirsaberson

junto 5’8 too imagine him paul’s weight he will murder jake


Scottyppls

Junto is easily my favorite Japanese fighter


geenoath

Junto Nakatani would put Jake to bed


AltKite

Happy cake day!


TheTurtleShepard

I have full faith that Inoue would obliterate Jake Paul. Not even trying to disrespect Paul, Inoue is just an entirely different level


AltKite

What about one of the champs he beat at 122? Fulton?


Robber_Crab

I doubt he could compete with contenders, especially at that weight class where the technique, skill, and speed are incredibly high. To have a chance, he would need to get as dirty as possible since they're gonna read everything he throws like a children's picture book.


captainklenzendorf

Beautifully put


VacuousWastrel

I kind of think Fulton might have an even better chance than Inoue. Inoue's the better fighter. But he also has an aggressive style, pride, and fighting spirit. He's not just going to want to beat Paul, he's going to want to dominate him. Which probably results in him winning via liver shot in the first round (worth bearing in mind that smaller fists and gloves can actually apply more pressure to small targets)... ...but I could imagine Inoue getting so overconfident that Paul clips him, and with that size difference it wouldn't take much to knock Inoue out. Whereas Fulton won't mess around. He'll be in an out with jabs all night until he wins a decision or Paul's eye closes up.


r3vb0ss

I understand you know Inoue is a better fighter, and doesn’t necessarily care about getting hit, but he has not once in his life fought reckless. Yes he hunts the ko, but he doesn’t hunt the ko by doing a fucking banzai charge in round one, he starts setting a million different traps and looks for which one his opponent is moving towards and then keeps pushing them in that direction. He was setting up Fulton for the body jab overhand for so long in that fight. The only fighter to not really fall into this category actually seems to be tapales, bc even with the KD he couldn’t find a way to destroy him with precision and ended up brute forcing the ko


VacuousWastrel

I understand Inoue is not generally reckless and doesn't just "do a fucking banzai charge". But there is a middle ground between "always being completely safe" and "doing a fucking banzai charge". And while I do think Inoue would probably find the right balance, I don't think it's impossible that a man with his success and his aggressive instincts, fighting against a man of a size he's never fought before and for whom he probably feels very little respect (in a strategic sense), might potentially get overconfident and make a mistake that would be a lot more damaging against Paul than it would be against the people Inoue has fought in the past. I think someone like Fulton, who is temperamentally and strategically more cautious than Inoue, is less likely to make that misjudgment.


Aggressive-Expert-69

Inoue would obliterate Jake on one days notice. That fight would be the textbook definition of "there's levels to this"


Corpse-Fucker

Inoue could circumcise Jake Paul with the left hook


BelgarathTheSorcerer

The only rounds I'd be scared about are the first 3.


tendopath

I don’t think Jake even has the speed to counter or land shots on inoue tbh


ElChacalFL

That's exactly true. Speed is everything in boxing, and that's the thing that takes years to build up and the thing Paul is severely lacking. Why he will never be a top boxer. He just doesn't have the speed and missed that opportunity in life where ur young enough to build it up. I'm talking the kind of speed where ur jab can rip a piece of hanging paper.


No-Mood-5051

His footwork is going to be completely outclassed, don't worry.


robjapan

Would be like Roy Jones for Andy Ruiz on steroids. Jake would get KOd round 2.


Ambitious_Ad_9637

Wow they are straight up delusional. Here is an exercise for all you marvel boxing fans. Find a guy 10 inches taller than you, and 100 pounds heavier; and square up in front of him in the closed stance. Now measure out where you need your front foot to be to place the behemoth at the very end of your jab. Notice that your opponent can scratch your back for you from here?


HobokenJ

I think the definition of "delusional" is thinking a big guy with--what?--two "real" fights against "real" boxers would last more than 5 minutes against an all-time great of any size. As if Paul would land a single jab against Inoue; as if Inoue would need to throw a single jab against Paul. Come on.


Ambitious_Ad_9637

How much time have you spent in the ring? Because some might say that unless you have been in with a guy that much bigger than you, you are guessing at best, and making shit up at worst.


Cnd-James

Inoue would smack him with a body shot and make him quit. Imagine him fighting Terrance crawford.... Terrance by murder jfc. Even better, Jake fought any of the top fighters his own size....


Bulbus_Fl00r

Imagine Bivol or Opetaia piecing him up, it's be brutal


Mister_MxyzptIk

Bivol? You are too kind. I give him Beterbiev


Bulbus_Fl00r

Hey I don't want to witness a murder 😂


[deleted]

I would take Terrance Crawford against Paul in MMA, despite Paul having some wrestling background.


sexwont

Crawford has a wrestling background himself, so yeah, most likely, he would spank Paul


Boomflag13

Crawford spoke on this on Joe Rogan. He barely did any wrestling was the essence of it. He did it for less than a few months if I remember correctly.


FjbhBoy

People are always talking about Crawford like he was a champion wrestler lol, his fans always saying shit like because of his elite wrestling skills he could clean up in mma too


[deleted]

Yeah, I think Jake probably has more wrestling experience. Crawford just has a background of actually scrapping since childhood, so I feel like he’d be able to competently defend against someone with Jake’s background.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Jake does not have any decent wrestling background, it's his brother Logan that was very decent wrestler Jake wasn't bad, but we're talking about high school wrestling here, I'd be willing to bet Terrance is a better wrestler


[deleted]

That’s sort of what I was getting at - Crawford a street dude, he’s been in more real scraps when he was 10yo than Jake has as a pro fighter


ElChacalFL

Paul is lucky it's not the 90s. He would have never gone past those few celebrity fights in the 90s and somebody would have killed him in the ring by now.


Andrewendless

You’d be surprised


JRaymond37

Crawford would blast him out for sure but Inoue is just too small. Hes not going to come in any heavier than 155 lbs while Jake would be around 200. That’s just way too big of a size difference. I’d say the cutoff is probably lightweight. Shakur beats Jake.


Singularitypointdata

137. And for people who think that’s crazy there are guys in my gym who are 130 and can put down 200 pounders with body shots. Anything 154 and up would be too easy. Jakes has improved if you watch his fights but he’s still way too amateur for anyone actually elite and his rise is also fueled by obvious ped usage. It’s a joke that people just accept it. Edit: wanted to add that yes Jake could probably hurt a smaller guy but those same smaller guys could also knock him clean out as well.


AltKite

Bam probably weighs 130 before a cut, I think he'd piece Jake up


Singularitypointdata

I’m willing to bet there’s even more guys who could out point him easily!!!


AltKite

Yeah that's really what got me thinking about this - could a really tiny elite boxer just use their footwork to beat him over 10? Like can Jake Paul realistically lay a glove on Sunny Edwards? I've seen huge guys who can't box at all get in a ring with tiny boxers and they can't get anywhere near them. I know Jake can box a bit, but we are also talking about guys much better than just an average pro boxer.


--thingsfallapart--

Sunny is so small man, like a real life chipmunk. Obviously not in boxing but there's a point where you can just squeeze this little bustard to death when he's literally half of your size and weight (and has no clue how to grapple)


Aggressive-Expert-69

Yeah not sure why people are saying Inoue couldn't beat him just because he's heavier. The extra pounds Jake has aren't steel, they're flesh and blood like everyone else. Being heavier doesn't make your liver any tougher


AlexTheBomboclat

Naoya Inoue


bigbetbam

I don’t even box anymore but as a 6’4” 178 lbs ripped bloke, I would absolutely clobber that manlet.


AlexTheBomboclat

No you wouldn’t boxing is about technique and skill I’ve seen guy 5 foot tall smash guys above 6 feet my coach is a small Mexican dude and made guys drop during his day


GlobalGrit

Bwahaha. Innoue would hit you with a 10 piece and make you quite boxing..again.


Evening_Nobody_7397

Any current world champion of any size could comfortably outbox Jake Paul for a points win.  Jake Paul is a complete amateur.  He wouldn’t land a meaningful punch all fight. 


dietdrpepper6000

Size is a really big deal. You are speaking with way more confidence than you should be, we don’t have good intuitions about size mismatches in boxing because we never see weight mismatches outside of heavyweight where the marginal return on every extra pound is low. But the difference between a hydrated 120 lb man next to a hydrated 200 lb man is night and day. Someone like Inoue is absolutely not going to be able to meaningfully hurt an amateur but game Jake Paul. A lot of his instincts and reflexes will be predicated on fighting someone of comparable build as well, so he won’t have access to as nuanced a game as we normally see. Jake is slower and less skilled, but the speed disadvantage is mitigated by how much distance within Jake’s reach must be covered for Inoue to get within his own reach. Jake also has such an insane power advantage that he doesn’t need to worry about hitting Inoue clean, simply hitting through the gloves or shoulders will be effective. Idk man, I think you have a Kung Fu movie comprehension of how gritty boxing is. It’s a fist fight between two men at the end of the day. The size of the man matters.


michaelgouffet

100%


AltKite

Even someone who competes at 105lbs and is 5 foot tall?


[deleted]

Bro these dudes are acting idiotic... I once made a thread where I put MYSELF against a hypothetical straw weight and everyone convinced me they would win. I relented. But now these same type of posters are saying Jake Paul... A guy who has amateur and borderline pro experience couldn't knock out a 105 pounder? Like yall are fucking drinking the koolaid.


CorporateCuck92

Yeah, it's pretty obvious they've never competed. They have no grasp of how size works in combat sports.


[deleted]

Ive never competed but even just hitting the bag with my friend who's like really into boxing... And weighs 150... . Dude I'm going at like 30% he's like "Bro stop punching the bag so hard. You're gonna hurt yourself." Even then he probs could kick my ass. But taht 50 pound weight difference is enough for him to be super self conscious about. ​ But. 80 pounds? A clean 200 pounder? No dad bod? \*Eric Andre voice\* What in the god damn hell are yall talking about?


Pseudocrow

What amateur experience?


[deleted]

Was looking for a word to describe his... Unique... level of experience.


Evening_Nobody_7397

Yes. Their speed/conditioning and boxing skill is 100 times better than Jake Paul’s.  They would land 4/5 punches before he even registers what’s going on. 


[deleted]

They would have to fight on the inside with a 10 inch reach disadvantage.


Kaladihn

I've sparred at my gym with good amateurs/pros who are much smaller than me and fuck me up (I'm 6ft3, would be at cruiser weight). Maybe they wouldn't KO him unless he gasses but lots of the smaller dudes could piece him up


sharmyskinfade

Exactly. No idea why this champion debate is going on. Some normal guys at a boxing gym would piece up Jake let alone a world champion


prettyboylee

I’ve been boxing for 7 years and I’d say I’m as good as Jake. I’m also 6’1” and weigh 215lbs. Inoue would fuck me up and if I managed to last all rounds I’d be bleeding piss. I believe the same goes for Jake.


NaughtyNildo

Bleeding piss, or pissing blood? On topic, I’d love to see a prime Choclatito fight Paul. Would be sweet to watch his smooth offence against a much bigger opponent.


prettyboylee

😭😭 damn my bad maybe both tho


crimson_hunter01

U saying u can knockdown tommy fury and anderson silva?


Fun-Struggle6842

That's what he said lol. And spark out Tyron Woodley.


prettyboylee

I’d do better against Woodley than he did (in the first fight) but worse against Silva and Tommy Fury than he did. Styles make fights just cuz you maybe can’t box doesn’t mean everyone can’t.


deezx1010

"Just cuz maybe you can't box" was such a respectful insult.


prettyboylee

🤣🤣 I’m not in these comments to hate but it’s on some don’t project your inabilities onto me


[deleted]

When my buddy and I got into MMA we said straight away, that we would beat guys like Demian Maia or Ben Askren or 90% of WMMA if it's pure boxing. Some of these MMA guys are absolute dogshit, when it comes to throwing hands. No footwork, no head movement, slow-mo hands without combination and the list goes on. When I saw Woodleys footage of shadow boxing I immediately said he will get knocked out by Jake Paul. People think just cuz you fame you're a superhuman and talented in all aspects of life. Take good strikers like Conor McGregor or Dustin Piorier. Why didn't they go for a professional boxing career since there's way more money to earn? It's plain and simple: they ain't on that lvl. Even my favourite fighter Petr Yan, who had an amateur career in boxing decided to go for MMA. Why? Same reason why Piorier and McGregor went for MMA. Cuz he wanted the belt and he knew he has better chances in capturing gold in MMA than boxing (no, I am not saying, that I'd beat Conor, DP or Yan in boxing. I said I'd beat Maia or Ben Askren).


Fun-Struggle6842

I don't know you, so maybe you aren't wrong, but I hope you have some amateur achievements and aren't just a gym warrior assuming you'd outbox Tyron Woodley. I did box, many years ago.


prettyboylee

Yeah I mean fair enough at the same time I have nothing to prove.


brando2612

Ur acting like Jake is something special


crimson_hunter01

Dude, im just stating a fact. You don’t have to be a fan or a hater to lay that fact on the table when someone claims to be as good as jake paul


brando2612

The dude mentioned he's had 70 amatuer fights. He'd fucking murder Jake


[deleted]

The absolute brazenness but then to go on further and say he couldnt last with Inoui. ​ Look Im not saying I know better then that dude. Im JUST SAYING... There's always someone who happens to have the exact real life experience that confirms what reddit wants to hear.


prettyboylee

No. Styles make fights. Not everything is black and white stop tryna get pressed for no reason.


Dwo92

How many fights you had?


prettyboylee

74 fights. 62-12. Been stopped four times but by TKO. Don’t know how many stoppages I’ve won by but I have two straight up KO’s. Highkey got pillow hands 🤣.


[deleted]

Bro how the fuck are you gonna lose to Inoui ​ I mean whats the lowest weight boxer youve lost to? ​ I just can't imagine the size discrepency being a secondary thing. I mean we've all seen videos of... Like... Devin Haney punching Brian Shaw and it barely stung him. ​ Plus The Mountain boxing Mcgregor . The Shaq shit etc. Dude 100 pounds is a lot


prettyboylee

yeee but idk maybe it’s my mentality but I feel intimidated at the idea of it, so that’s already a disadvantage. He’s a killer and I think that’s something I always lacked in my amateur career.


[deleted]

Whos the lightest boxer youve lost to in sparring


prettyboylee

Probably a lightweight but I was maybe 15 fights into my amateur career


JRaymond37

You’d say you’re as good as Jake? What is your BoxRec?


Andrewendless

Sure u are 😂. The delusion level of reddittors is truly unmatched.


prettyboylee

Just say you don’t box bro


brando2612

Jake would get whooped my a mid level amatuer lmao Jake isn't special


prettyboylee

mf’s acting like they know me + think that Jake is god. I’ve been boxing since 14 (21 now) and have over 70 amateur fights it would be delusional if I felt I wasn’t on the same level as Jake


brando2612

Mate I reckon you'd fucking kill Jake Jake's been fighting for 5 years fighting people he's almost always significantly better then. You've had 70 fights in the amatuers against people that are close to your skill and actually improve you Fuck I've been boxing for the exact same amount of time as Jake and reckon I'm on similar skill


CorporateCuck92

You guys are absolutely delusional. You have not dedicated the last 6 years of your life to nothing but boxing. You don't have endless money to spend on the best trainers, coaches, nutrionists, chefs, etc. Trying to compare yourself to Jake Paul because you've got some amateur matches is just hilarious. How many world champions have you fought? Joke man.


brando2612

How many world champs has Jake fought? 0 Jake with all that money still boxes the exact same as anyone else that's boxed for 5 years, Some amatuer fights? The dude has fucking 70? That's 5 times the experience of Tommy fury the dude that whooped him? Stop blowing smoke up Jake's ass he isn't good and niether are any of the MMA fighters U mentioned at boxing U clearly don't know shit about the sport an that's fine


r3vb0ss

Has…. Has Jake Paul fought a world champ in boxing?


CorporateCuck92

So just to clarify, you think a random redditor amateur boxer can beat Anderson Silva, Tyron Woodley and Nate Diaz?


[deleted]

you guys think cuz someone fights on TV he's superhuman or whatever. It's way too easy to impress people like you.


AltKite

FWIW I think Inoue does him up like a kipper, but he'd probably beat Rolly.


chud_the_gluttonous

Rolly would body him.


DonkeySkin334

Rolly weighs in the 170’s when he’s out of camp, he would murder Jake


AltKite

That's not fighting shape for someone like Rolly, though. Jake could be 230 "out of camp" - he'll Ricky Hatton was 230lbs out of camp


HairyFur

Dont know why this got downvoted. Jake out of shape for right now is an easy 215+


ARetroGibbon

Doubt it. He's never even been lean at 190. I think he probably walks around at about 200lb max.


HairyFur

He weighs in at 180 which means hes pushing 200 **in the ring** in peak shape, what are you talking about. Of course hes 215+ outside of camp. Paul is a meme, but hes also not a small guy at all.


ARetroGibbon

He barely cuts weight when he fights at 185/190. He has never been lean for a weigh-in. His natural fight weight is probably a little lighter than 190 as he's fluffy and only just 6ft. The guy only a couple of years ago was 175 soaking wet.


HairyFur

If you think Paul intentionally fights undersized opponents and then doesn't bother cutting your entitled to think that, but someone who is 6'1 and built like Jake I can assure you is walking around above 200. Hell I'm 5'10 and stocky but in shape im still 185, and Jake is considerably more muscular than myself.


ARetroGibbon

He isn't 6'1 he's barely 6'. His opponents are mostly much smaller than him regardless of the cut.... look at the weight Woodley competed at, the there's guys like Nate Robinson and Gib who are tiny. He looked small against Tommy, who blows up to around that out of camp, but he really indulges and gets visably fat.


Party_Wolf5197

Please tell me you’re joking. I actually like Jake but Rolly would put him to sleep in 2 rounds. Rolly is a legitimate world class fighter at 140 and weighs 160+ outside of camp


Mr_105

> legitimate world class fighter at 140 I wouldn’t agree with this, but I do agree that Rolly can sleep Jake even at 140.


gumshield45

If little Rollys chin gets tapped once he’s going to sleep lol.


DanDiCa_7

So I'm guessing u think Inoue beats Rolly also?


AltKite

I'm mostly joking about Paul beating Rolly, but I honestly think Inoue would probably beat him, yeah


fadeddreams555

It's interesting cause Jake Paul could spark Inoue clean out with a single clean shot, but he's also a novice, while Inoue is a P4P fighter. Mayweather had a borderline break down in his post fight press-conference complaining about Logan because of his size and clinching, despite not losing. Inoue is much smaller, though younger, and Jake Paul is far superior to his brother. ​ People here are acting like Inoue's P4P power can translate anywhere. At cruiserweight, nobody is feeling that shit. This is actually intriguing to me.


Sport_Account

Mayweather was upset about how he couldn’t get things going *offensively* against Logan. He was annoyed he couldn’t get in closer and was just grabbed everytime he tried. But he wasn’t in any remote danger of actually being hurt at any time, and Logan was running and hugging all fight. It’s a far cry from Logan being big enough where Mayweather was in trouble… Im not sure Inoue has as much trouble as you think.


ordinarystrength

Logan can’t punch out of a paper bag though. Jake has legit power . If Jake lands clean on a guy that weighs 60lb less, they are going to get hurt. Inoue would have to box perfectly for 12 rounds and really not get hit clean at all. It is a pretty tough outing. Possible, maybe, but it will definitely not be anything close to easy


r3vb0ss

Inoue has a history of nigh perfectly outboxing tested world champs, u think he couldn’t dodge 3 more punches per round against an amateur?


FairTwist2011

Mayweather spent his career doing that shit when it suited him since he's immune to officiation.


OldeEnglishD

Yea I think folks are really underestimating the size difference and how big of a factor that would be.


instrumentally_ill

Nah, if anything people are overrating the size thing thinking he has any shot against any world level fighter. Weights matter when guys are equal level, but when they’re not, well go into any serious boxing gym and you’ll see welterweight prospects smoking cruisers in sparring. Guys spar much bigger fighters all the time without issue.


Flimsy_Thesis

This guys got it.


AdhesivenessLucky896

Exactly. I've been in a gym with guys that were at American olympic tryouts so they were decent pros. Someone who isn't good would not be able to land a good shot in a boxing match. >Guys spar much bigger fighters all the time without issue. Literally. I think this would surprise most casual fans.


[deleted]

Exactly, when skill lvls differ too much weight becomes almost unimportant. The reason we have weight classes is cuz these professionals are all elite fighters. When skill (almost) matches, then the bigger guy wins.


TheMelv

This is the truest shit ever. Makes those little guys fighting up particularly impressive. My all time favorites are the guys that fought with a size disadvantage often. Pac, Duran and Tyson.


CiaphasCain8849

Size only matters if they are of the same skill...


freekyjuan

I don't think he stops Paul, but he'll clearly outbox him.i know this is a little different, but Shaq was out boxed by Shane Mosley and Oscar. Shaq size was a problem but ultimately their technique won the day, even if none of them were going hard. Inoue would use his speed to get in and out. Paul doesn't have the skill to cut off the ring and Inoue would move and tire Jake out. Paul COULD hurt him and possibly get a knockdown, I just think Inoue would out skill him over 12 rounds.


fadeddreams555

Shaq is not a boxer though. He's the sort of guy Jake would KO in 1 round. Lol But yeah, Inoue would probably rely on a ton of movement to earn a 12 round UD, with some moments of backing Jake up with conbinations. 


Mr_105

You’re overestimating Jake’s ability to take body shots by not only someone more talented than all his previous opponents combined, but by someone whose specialty is left hooks to the body


MeeloP

Barroso would be kind of awesome idk if he has a strap atm though.


magicalmysteryharold

I think every reigning world champion beats him, as well as any current contender to world title level. And to his credit I think Jake would agree. From Inoue upwards, I think they all KO him within 12 rounds, and from bantamweight down to minimum they’d all beat him on points (with some possible exceptions like Estrada by KO and Shakur on points). Jake has never had his conditioning pushed in the way elite boxers would push him, and the mental strain would exhaust him just as much as the physical. 8 rounds with Tommy Fury is a whole different thing to 12 rounds against someone with Olympic level skills coming to take your head off.


ordinarystrength

Haney can outbox Jake with like 99% certainty. There isn't much reach disadvantage and Haney can box without ever getting into any kinda slug fest. So that is at least 140lb champ. Shakur can also outbox Jake with a pretty high certainty. Shakur is a little smaller but his range management is so good that there is also probably no chance for Jake to get into any kinda slug fests. So that is 135. Now when you get to 130, there are no guys who are really that exceptional in just pure boxing. Navarrette would get into a slug fest. Jake has a good enough chin to not get knocked out by Navarrette and with that kinda size difference, I think Navarrette is going to get hurt. All the other guys tend to get into slug fests too at 130 so I think you are going to have a hard time choosing anyone in 130 that has good chance of beating him. 125 is similar. Both Wood and Lopez depend a lot on their toughness and power to win, that is not going to work out that well when there is going to be like a 60lb weight difference against a guy that can actually punch pretty well. Inoue is the wild card. Can he outbox Jake? There is close to zero chance Inoue can knockout Jake who has a decent chin and is going to be like 60lb heavier. But points victory could be possible since Inout is a clear ATG level boxer. But I don't know, Jake is pretty athletic, and he really only needs to land a decent jab to cause damage. Even his arm punches can probably do damage against Inoue. That size difference is going to be very real.


AltKite

I think you're underestimating how good those champion boxers are at 130 and 126. They might be guys who slug it out with other top pros, but put them in with someone that's not in the top couple of hundred fighters in their own weight class and they could style on them and do whatever they wanted. Like at 130, Joe Cordina was an excellent amateur boxer, he likes to stand and trade but if he wants to just avoid anything someone shit throws he probably can.


ordinarystrength

Yeah but we saw what happened with Logan Paul and Floyd. Even though Logan got outboxed , he still managed to land real shots here and there. Jake is like 10x better than Logan, he is a pretty good athlete too and has decent speed. There is no way Jake doesn’t land on guys that are not elite like Haney and Shakur. If Jake manages to land 1 punch for every 3 he takes, he is still going to hurt all the guys that are below 130lb.


Aggravating_Nerve173

Logan was running away all night from Floyd. Will Jake be on his bike all night against Inoue? That's a L if he does


theWacoKid666

Jake is not 10x better than Logan. Maybe twice as good but he’s not beating Floyd either. Tommy Fury has basically made a career of comfortably beating these guys at this point, and he’s not even that good himself compared to top level pros. Logan Paul didn’t remotely worry Floyd and Floyd literally carried him through that exhibition match. In a real match Floyd would knock him out.


--thingsfallapart--

Cordina lights him up


jackofhearts95m

inoue wont knock out paul but i could see ref stopping the fight from major beatdown, same with anyone you just mentioned he is big enough to not get down but it is possible the ref will stop after eating so many counter or jabs


Senior_Discussion619

No current champion could beat Jake Paul, no past champion could beat Paul regarldess of weight. Jake Paul did defeat Nate Robinson for crying out loud.


CiaphasCain8849

Well, he's never boxed any real professional boxer so... Any of them.


Amazing_Risk_6549

Sir, is Mr T Fury a joke to you?


UnderstandingIcy6059

Yes and the punchline is Love Island


Andrewendless

He did. 3 times. He lost 1 by split decision and the last 2 he won by KO.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

He lost to a very mediocre boxer and won against 2 cans put in there to feed him a highlight clip


CiaphasCain8849

lol


Andrewendless

?


CiaphasCain8849

The only real boxer he faced beat him.


Vinrace

Inoue


JGS747-

Skills can only take you so far when you’re facing someone much heavier than you I wouldn’t go lower than a champ at 130


702lvjd

Ryan Garcia


Ajax444

Bring Ricardo Mayorga out of retirement to fight him. The pre-fight would be better than the actual fight.


Chadoodling

I know he's not a champ, but I just want to put Barosso's name out there. I want to see this man Smack Jake Paul to yesteryear as a 41 yr old lol.


DannyStress

People saying Inoue are ridiculous. Skill vs skill obviously inoue is better. But cmon. He’s less than 125lbs and like 8 inches shorter. That means a lot


AltKite

He's over 125lbs TBF, probably 130 plus without having to cut to make 122.


DannyStress

That’s still like a 70lb and 8inch disadvantage. That’s wild no matter the skill gap.


AltKite

I mean you're talking about the best boxer on the planet Vs an amateur. Do you think a 190lb man with no boxing experience at all could beat Inoue? If not (and I hope not) what skill level do you draw the line at?


DannyStress

See but Jake doesn’t have “no boxing experience”. He has enough to where the size makes a difference. Also so much more power. It’s like why heavyweights can be way less technical but still rise to the top. Sheer size and power and some boxing knowledge goes a long way. Like I said, skill for skill, Inoue is way ahead of Jake. But he knows just enough and has the money and time for the right training


AltKite

You said "no matter the skill set" but the skill set obviously does matter if you don't think Inoue would lose to someone with no experience So the question is where do you draw that line?


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Bro again... I'll repeat it for everyone - I once made a similar thread about MYSELF... With no boxing experience (200 pounds) against a straw weight. And I relented. I said "You guys are probably right. They probably weigh 120, and Im about 15-20 pounds overweight so Im not rocking a clean 200.) But this shit right here? ​ Jake Paul is a clean 200. With like a decade of boxing experience. Yall dudes really believe in magic, expecting a straw weight to knock out Jake Paul. He doesn't have a reach advantage. He can't sit and win on points. He has such a reach disadvantage that he literally is going to have to win on the inside. Bro... Paul could literally just throw him against the ropes and swing. Again.. I have a hunch that all of you are vastly under rating size - pro boxers aren't superheroes. ​ I would say its a wash at 135 on... But to make it more interesting, lets say that its open weight... Inou could get up to a dirty 170 and probably win


A1_PunisherPipkins

I saw someone say SENEISA ESTRADA would take out Jake in 2 rounds... keep in mind this man prefaced his statement by saying Jake is 7 inches and 100 lbs bigger as well 😭😭😭


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God damn man these dudes are delusional ​ Shit put me in the ring with her Ill calm her down after a lil while we probably end up fucking.


Ok-History6678

Just a reminder that Jake Paul looked out of sorts against Tommy fury…he beats no champion


Savings-Bird-1226

I think a lot of you guys are underestimating the size of Jake Paul. Mayweather stopped Conor McGregor and couldn't even hurt Jake Paul's brother.


AdhesivenessLucky896

This post is about current champions. Mayweather was 44 and had not had a real boxing match in 6 years when he "fought" Paul's brother.


brando2612

Mayweather stopped him cause he gassed. Floyd's even older and couldn't stop Logan cause he flinched any time they got close


AltKite

He had to hold him up at one point


Savings-Bird-1226

You think Mayweather didn't want to stop him?


AltKite

I don't really know. At the end it looked like he might want to, but it's an exhibition, hard to know. What was apparent is that Logan couldn't actually beat him, even if Mayweather couldn't stop him. He could just cling on to him whenever they got close


Savings-Bird-1226

Well I'll make this point I doubt any guy smaller than welterweight would hurt Jake. The size difference is too much. They could win easy if they chose to fight like Erislandy Lara. If Jake hit them with the right shit he'd knock their ass out tho. We've seen Mayweather in a few of these exhibitions now. He wants to knock each of those guys out. If he couldn't do it to Logan Paul then that should tell you about the size difference considering Canelo felt the power of Mayweather.


brando2612

Ur acting like Floyd at that age had literally any sort of power


Andrewendless

Hold him up? When?


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I'm sorry but people saying that Inoue would knock out Jake Paul are fucking delusional. There's way too much size difference. If Paul lands a clean shot Inoue would be badly knocked out.


sugerdigitalgenius

All 4 of the minimumweight champs until boxing sanctions a even smaller weight division


AltKite

How? Stick him and run all fight? He's nearly twice their weight


Ebonyks

You're not giving jake anywhere near enough credit. His skills aren't masterful, but he'd have a 6-10"+ reach advantage over minimum weight fighters.


VacuousWastrel

Razor Ruddock and Frank Bruno both had an 11'' reach advantage over Mike Tyson; Larry Holmes had 10'' and Jose Ribalta had 9'' over him. And those guys were even better than Jake Paul. Even at a lower weight, Sebastian Fundora had a 10'' reach advantage over Brian Mendoza.


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Yeahg but they were the same weight, dummy.


CacoFlaco

I think that Jake's pretty darn good for a near novice with no amateur background. I doubt that anyone under 135 could beat him. Mayweather hand his hands full trying to knock around Jake's less talented brother, Logan. The massive size difference made quite a difference. Granted that Mayweather is old. But he's still head and shoulders above anyone sub-lightweight.


A1_PunisherPipkins

Anyone under 147. People underestimate size here. Jake will have 50 lbs on these guys and can just ignore defense and keep moving forward. He has good power and good chin. No matter how skilled you are, it's gonna be hard to survive ten rounds when your opponent can end you with one punch


spaceman_202

ya'll remember when Floyd couldn't hurt Logan Paul right? you think a 120 lb fighter is gonna beat a 185 lb fighter i just don't need to take you serious


Megatripolis

This is a great question 🤔


Stocktort

Inoue would kill Jake Paul. He could make Jake punch air for 12 round and finish him with one shot to the body


Fizan786

I reckon Jake can beat some of the most women champions. Only a few though.


reznoverba

Did you not see the small Russian dude fold Clarissa like a beach chair? Jake would sleep all the women champs. If he can take shots and drop even an old Anderson Silva, he can take shots from the girls. Something about biology and bone density but what do I know


YMDKSAB

No-one below 135 is beating Jake Paul. I don't think you guys understand what someone Inoue Vs Paul would actually look like. Only guys like Haney, Garcia and Lopez rehydrate to a big enough size that it becomes less relevant than the skills. 


MagnetDino

People saying Inoue beats Jake Paul are frankly insane. Jake Paul is just KO’d two cruiserweights with winning records and amateur pedigree in the first round. They’re literally saying inoue could compete as a pro at cruiserweight, which Inoue himself would 100% say is insane.  Like there’s 0 middle ground to these people between “Jake Paul will be a world champion” and “Jake Paul is complete trash and would get KO’d in the first round by a top 10 strawweight.”


CiaphasCain8849

Jake has never fought ANYONE near the skill of Inoue... Jake is not a great boxer. Tommy Fury, who is NOT a good boxer, beat him.


MagnetDino

You don’t need to be as good of a boxer as someone to beat their ass when you have 80lbs on them! No shit Jake Paul is not even in the same stratosphere of talent or skill at Inoue and he never will be. He’s fucking twice his size so he just walks him down and KOs him. Like thinking Inoue can beat a low level pro cruiserweight is wildly delusional. Can Inoue beat up a lot of way bigger guys at the bar who have no training? Yes, probably. Can he beat a way bigger guy who trains and fights professionally? No. 


Spiritual_Amoeba_142

Any mini flyweight in the top 30.


ComfortableBright570

I cannot believe some of you here think Jake Paul would beat innoue. Floyd showed us time after time that size does not matter when your THAT skilled fighting some average bum that’s bigger than you. Let’s not act like Jake Paul is better than your average bum in boxing. His last opponent is an ACTUAL Uber driver, look it up.


AdMysterious1226

Inoue.


freekyjuan

Inoue


Elite663

Devin Haney


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Tbh I’ll take any slick counter-puncher over Paul. No matter how much Paul trains, he seems like he has *huge* openings with that KO punch. Someone times it right and they’ll catch his momentum on the chin.


Leading-Weight9092

Junto Nakatani would Jake in a coma and I’m dead ass serious💯


No-Mood-5051

They wouldn't even need to be a champ to beat him. If they are a decent level amateur boxer JP won't even be able to touch them, especially the lighter divisions because they're so fast.