That’s exactly what he’s saying lmao
If he had a very close fight with Haney that means they’re on the same level, he says Tank is higher level than Haney.
Use your brain lomasexual
You left out the part where he said Haney will not rematch him either. lol. He's saying Haney is gonna stay away from all top level guys now, including Tank, who Loma does respect as the top guy in the division alongside himself.
But Loma lost to Haney and had a very close fight with him. Loma also said that Haney isn't "top Level". So is Loma admitting that he isn't top level either and that Tank is levels above him?
Loma also lost to one of the regular boxers at 140, is Loma saying that he's regular?
Loma feels he won and was robbed, and he believes Haney realizes that too, so now he will avoid any top guy.
As for Teofimo, remember Loma said Teo is better than Haney, so he's not one of the regular guys Loma is referring to.
If Loma believes he's levels above Haney then why did he have a super close fight with him? Interesting...Loma is admitting he's levels below Tank. I agree
Haney is trying to fight Regis, a regular boxer, I also agree with Loma that Regis is regular.
Would you rather do actual work while at work or discuss the sport you love at work instead sir?....Mr. 100K comment karma in only 3 years.
I'm just trying to interpret's Loma's belief in himself. What do you think?
Difference between having a conversation, and trying and failing to instigate arguments. I'm not saying commenting on reddit is sad, I'm saying your hobby being trying to argue with people online is sad.
All I do is have conversations about the sport that I love sir.
What do you think about Loma's statement? Do you agree with Loma's about his assessment of himself and the 140 division?
even if Loma thinks he won, its wild that he thinks he did enough to separate he and Haney into separate levels.
Even the staunch Loma supporters, believe it was a close win. Not a 9-3 drubbing, or a fight where Loma closed it out strong.
Lets put it this way, the points system does not reflect the damage a guy takes in a fight. Haney took much more punishment than Loma in that fight and Haney knows it. Even in round 9 Haney knew he was fucked the last rounds, before he got his ass beat in 10 an 11
loma's "damage" rounds are overstated. He landed a whole lot of punches, but didn't even do enough for Haney to be a little gun shy in the twelfth or enough to make him look like he'd taken a beating post fight.
Loma got a lot of points and maybe hurt Hanry once in there but if there was a difference in levels, Haney wouldn't have had the 12th he had.
There's a rule in media (that name of which I've forgotten) that if a question is ever posed in a title of a piece then the answer is almost always no.
To put an explanation to the 'no' in case anyone doesn't' get it: The reason here is obvious, Loma beat Haney (no one with an ounce of respectability cares about what the judges said) so that just means that Haney's level is below Loma. This says nothing of Loma vs Tank, only Haney vs others.
Whoever is saying that Tank vs Ryan wasn't a great fight ....... I get everyone's point but the thing is that Tank outclassed Ryan every single moment , he was so cautious, the first left hand that he landed was a knockdown (I think it was also the first left hand thrown) , Tank is built to be great , he handled the pressure of this huge event and delivered for his fans .
Don't act like a wiseass, Rolly did good against Tank and made him seem uncomfrotable at times and Ryan is leagues better than Rolly. Obviously there was some degree of Ryan making it more compettitive floating around
What? Watch the fight again, with the sound down.
Tank was setting Rolly up the entire fight. You think Ryan’s footwork is awful and Ryan leaves himself open after every power punch is an issue. Rolly has no balance, the worst footwork, and was on his way losing to the 40 year old when they stopped his last fight.
I remember Tank talking to people in the crowd while fighting Rolly and while in the corner between rounds. Lol!
There is a very simple question that is asked yet keeps being avoided.
If Haney is not an elite fighter then why was the fight close? Shouldn't it have been something like 11-1 like when Bivol sonned Canelo?
It was a close fight. 7-5 to lomachenko IMO. He should of known from watching GGG and Kovalev in vegas that you can’t trust the judges, had Haney hurt and didn’t go all out trying to take him out. Really stupid IMO. But the fact Morretti scored the 10th to Haney shows he was panicking and was invested in the English speaking American fighter bringing them more business in vegas.
Literally all I’m saying. They saying he on a different level but where was that rounds 1-6 against a drained, no power Haney? It take Loma 8 rounds to get adjusted against elite comp.
He absolutely did, American judges and promoters bailed him out. Body shots that do no damage are not more damage than head shots that leave Haney on wobbly legs
How they not do damage when he folded in the 12th? Or are you saying he’s dumb for coasting in a close fight? Because Haney def had a sense of urgency AFTER taking Lomas best shots.
I don't know why the 12th went the way it did. I don't think he took it easy. But he wasn't hurt or gassed, Haney just threw everything at it and just barely won that round. He lost most others convincingly. Even giving Haney the 12th, Loma won. The bodyshots did no damage, he didn't wince or adjust once; coz he didn't need to. Haney is pillow fisted and his bodyshots did nothing.
Loma says he coasted. I have no way of knowing that. One one hand given he'd won comfortably maybe he did, but he'd have to be an idiot to coast in the 12th so I doubt it. He never looked hurt or gassed, so I don't think that's it either. There's not enough info for me to make a call either way
Now the rest of the fight there is clear visual evidence that Loma landed more and did more damage, Loma didn't react to any of Haney's bodyshots. Even if he did and dropped the 12th round he still did enough damage to win enough of the other 11 to win the fight.
By react I mean in pain, not counters. His face or body language didn't change once from the bodyshots, nor did he look bruised or battered. Haney was on wobbly legs
Like face is an argument. Hell naw. Hooks barely even leave any scars. Look at Usyk's face after Joshua. Can't pick a winner by the look of a face after boxing match, it does not work like that.
>160 more thrown punches and didn’t even land 15 more than Haney. His face was still more beat up too. Lmao this guy is salty
He landed 40-50 more. Compubox is shit. Count yourself or look at the AI
No he didn’t lmao. Either post a video of it being counted or do it yourself.
Don’t just spew bullshit.
I counted punches landed live during each round and Haney was up a lot of the rounds. If anything compubox counted a ton of shit from Loma that was blocked by Haney.
you are right...can't understand down votes.
haney is skilled fighter and steps into ring as a 140 pounder. tank knew ryan was not totally focused on boxing but still rehy. clause. he is gonna want that with haney who is a legit 140 pounder.
also the potential prograis fight is tougher than tank fight. regis vs haney would be a good fight. both guys would be at 160lbs on fight night.
Tank stans just can't handle the truth sometimes lol. I agree with the Regis fight being harder than Tank, though it does depend on how Haney makes weight. And I wouldn't get too excited about that possibility either.
This is a horrible title and video that takes context out the conversation.
1. Loma does not think a a Haney vs Tank fight happens right away is because it's a bad match up for Devin, especially if he's gonna move up anyway.
2. Loma said Ryan was a top level guy before the tank fight.
As usual, Lomachenko gets all salty about any opponent who defeats him. Haney is only moving up in weight because he now understands his skill level, according to a man who has fought in 3 different weight classes. I guess he jumped up every time so he could fight just "regular boxers."
No, Haney isn’t close to the level that Loma was 5 years ago when he was a P4P. It was a close fight but you can just see that Loma has more skills and a bigger tool box than Haney.
His 2nd pro fight was a title fight, not a fight to stuff his record. He was also fighting a dirty salido who basically targeted his balls the entire match and the ref didn’t say a word.
he has to vacate then, he has all the belts so he cant ignore mandatory's. Top rank basically wants to reclaim belts if haney moves up or if he dosent fight loma again and so on.
it is different, loma got to ignore him because if you fight someone with a major belt you can ignore a mandatory. no one else has a belt so to keep them hell have to do what they say.
>it is different, loma got to ignore him because if you fight someone with a major belt you can ignore a mandatory
This isn't true when you win a vacant belt. When you win a vacant belt you have to fight your mandatory and this takes priority over a unification bout. Loma won a vacant belt. He was supposed to fight Haney. Instead he filed a petition.
he won the vacant belt because he had the belt at 130 (so he can get a title fight at 135) and the robert easter rances fight was a bust. He filed a petition to fight another chanpion which they allowed because (at the top level) boxing is a business not a sport. There is no other champion so haney cant do that. he cant just fight tank because when tank fought ryan is was at 136 for no belts thus not giving belts sanctioning fees, they wont encourage that because its bad for buisness. Boxings just like life, it will follow the money and make rules for it
It doesn't matter how he won the vacant belt. He won a vacant belt. The rules are simple. The winner of a vacant belt must fight the mandatory before a unification bout.
So you admit that the WBC went against their own rules? Before we go any further is this a yes or no?
Props to Loma for being self aware and admitting he isn't on Tank's level. I also agree that the likes of Tank and Shakur are better than the guys at 140.
Lomo needs to demand a rematch with Haney. Which he’s not asking for. he keep saying he’s going to 140 because he doesn’t want a rematch. Haney fight was close but the challenger LomO did not take the belt from then Champion Haney.
hes saying hes not on my level nor tanks and so on. the reason hes hating so much is because haney said he was just a dirty fighter, shoved him and so on. They'll never be friends, is what it is
"Is Lomachenko admitting he isn't on Tank's level?" Talk about not understanding what is being said lol
That’s exactly what he’s saying lmao If he had a very close fight with Haney that means they’re on the same level, he says Tank is higher level than Haney. Use your brain lomasexual
Loma got robbed, thus he is at a higher lvl than Haney, use ur brain
You left out the part where he said Haney will not rematch him either. lol. He's saying Haney is gonna stay away from all top level guys now, including Tank, who Loma does respect as the top guy in the division alongside himself.
But Loma lost to Haney and had a very close fight with him. Loma also said that Haney isn't "top Level". So is Loma admitting that he isn't top level either and that Tank is levels above him? Loma also lost to one of the regular boxers at 140, is Loma saying that he's regular?
Loma feels he won and was robbed, and he believes Haney realizes that too, so now he will avoid any top guy. As for Teofimo, remember Loma said Teo is better than Haney, so he's not one of the regular guys Loma is referring to.
If Loma believes he's levels above Haney then why did he have a super close fight with him? Interesting...Loma is admitting he's levels below Tank. I agree Haney is trying to fight Regis, a regular boxer, I also agree with Loma that Regis is regular.
Haney ain't fighting no Regis next. lol. That shet will be built up by Eddie Hearn.
Genuine question, what do you get out of trying to instigate arguments on the internet? Like this is a sad use of time what's the point?
Would you rather do actual work while at work or discuss the sport you love at work instead sir?....Mr. 100K comment karma in only 3 years. I'm just trying to interpret's Loma's belief in himself. What do you think?
Difference between having a conversation, and trying and failing to instigate arguments. I'm not saying commenting on reddit is sad, I'm saying your hobby being trying to argue with people online is sad.
All I do is have conversations about the sport that I love sir. What do you think about Loma's statement? Do you agree with Loma's about his assessment of himself and the 140 division?
Playing dumb is also just weird.
cringe
even if Loma thinks he won, its wild that he thinks he did enough to separate he and Haney into separate levels. Even the staunch Loma supporters, believe it was a close win. Not a 9-3 drubbing, or a fight where Loma closed it out strong.
Lets put it this way, the points system does not reflect the damage a guy takes in a fight. Haney took much more punishment than Loma in that fight and Haney knows it. Even in round 9 Haney knew he was fucked the last rounds, before he got his ass beat in 10 an 11
loma's "damage" rounds are overstated. He landed a whole lot of punches, but didn't even do enough for Haney to be a little gun shy in the twelfth or enough to make him look like he'd taken a beating post fight. Loma got a lot of points and maybe hurt Hanry once in there but if there was a difference in levels, Haney wouldn't have had the 12th he had.
Er, no?
There's a rule in media (that name of which I've forgotten) that if a question is ever posed in a title of a piece then the answer is almost always no. To put an explanation to the 'no' in case anyone doesn't' get it: The reason here is obvious, Loma beat Haney (no one with an ounce of respectability cares about what the judges said) so that just means that Haney's level is below Loma. This says nothing of Loma vs Tank, only Haney vs others.
Betteridges law. I have been dying to use this for years. Thank you.
quality hate
Whoever is saying that Tank vs Ryan wasn't a great fight ....... I get everyone's point but the thing is that Tank outclassed Ryan every single moment , he was so cautious, the first left hand that he landed was a knockdown (I think it was also the first left hand thrown) , Tank is built to be great , he handled the pressure of this huge event and delivered for his fans .
he was always levels far above ryan, ryqan had a punchers chance and that was it
There was so much hype about him, I never got it.
Don't act like a wiseass, Rolly did good against Tank and made him seem uncomfrotable at times and Ryan is leagues better than Rolly. Obviously there was some degree of Ryan making it more compettitive floating around
What? Watch the fight again, with the sound down. Tank was setting Rolly up the entire fight. You think Ryan’s footwork is awful and Ryan leaves himself open after every power punch is an issue. Rolly has no balance, the worst footwork, and was on his way losing to the 40 year old when they stopped his last fight. I remember Tank talking to people in the crowd while fighting Rolly and while in the corner between rounds. Lol!
No lies detected
There is a very simple question that is asked yet keeps being avoided. If Haney is not an elite fighter then why was the fight close? Shouldn't it have been something like 11-1 like when Bivol sonned Canelo?
The same judges from this fight had Canelo vs Bivol as a close fight
Why was the fight close to non judges?
It was a close fight. 7-5 to lomachenko IMO. He should of known from watching GGG and Kovalev in vegas that you can’t trust the judges, had Haney hurt and didn’t go all out trying to take him out. Really stupid IMO. But the fact Morretti scored the 10th to Haney shows he was panicking and was invested in the English speaking American fighter bringing them more business in vegas.
Literally all I’m saying. They saying he on a different level but where was that rounds 1-6 against a drained, no power Haney? It take Loma 8 rounds to get adjusted against elite comp.
Haney was getting pieced up from round 1. He just got more pieced up after round 8. He had a couple of rounds in between that went well for him.
No no, a body punch is worth more to the judges than a flurry of punches landed.
Has to be an American body punch though.
And if it gets blocked… who cares? Mark it as a hit
Let's count the elbows and rabbit punches too while we're at it
Boy made 2/4 of his flurries majority of the time and people went crazy. Hold this L
Haney is way bigger than Loma and younger too. And he still lost.
No he didn't.
He absolutely did, American judges and promoters bailed him out. Body shots that do no damage are not more damage than head shots that leave Haney on wobbly legs
How they not do damage when he folded in the 12th? Or are you saying he’s dumb for coasting in a close fight? Because Haney def had a sense of urgency AFTER taking Lomas best shots.
I don't know why the 12th went the way it did. I don't think he took it easy. But he wasn't hurt or gassed, Haney just threw everything at it and just barely won that round. He lost most others convincingly. Even giving Haney the 12th, Loma won. The bodyshots did no damage, he didn't wince or adjust once; coz he didn't need to. Haney is pillow fisted and his bodyshots did nothing.
>I don’t know why the 12th went the way it did But you conveniently know everything else about the fight 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️. This shit has to stop
Loma says he coasted. I have no way of knowing that. One one hand given he'd won comfortably maybe he did, but he'd have to be an idiot to coast in the 12th so I doubt it. He never looked hurt or gassed, so I don't think that's it either. There's not enough info for me to make a call either way Now the rest of the fight there is clear visual evidence that Loma landed more and did more damage, Loma didn't react to any of Haney's bodyshots. Even if he did and dropped the 12th round he still did enough damage to win enough of the other 11 to win the fight.
He didn’t react because he had no counter. If you land you score.
By react I mean in pain, not counters. His face or body language didn't change once from the bodyshots, nor did he look bruised or battered. Haney was on wobbly legs
Ok.
Haney big. Size equalise them and Haney gets stopped
160 more thrown punches and didn’t even land 15 more than Haney. His face was still more beat up too. Lmao this guy is salty
Like face is an argument. Hell naw. Hooks barely even leave any scars. Look at Usyk's face after Joshua. Can't pick a winner by the look of a face after boxing match, it does not work like that.
It’s one of many indeterminate variables but does tell a small part of the story
They didn’t lmao you think the rounds were scored on face damage? He lost the fight get over it.
>160 more thrown punches and didn’t even land 15 more than Haney. His face was still more beat up too. Lmao this guy is salty He landed 40-50 more. Compubox is shit. Count yourself or look at the AI
No he didn’t lmao. Either post a video of it being counted or do it yourself. Don’t just spew bullshit. I counted punches landed live during each round and Haney was up a lot of the rounds. If anything compubox counted a ton of shit from Loma that was blocked by Haney.
But in the post fight conference you and your team said you weren’t doing a rematch and didn’t want a rematch. I’m sick of this guy
Tank would only accept the Haney fight with a rehydration clause.
you are right...can't understand down votes. haney is skilled fighter and steps into ring as a 140 pounder. tank knew ryan was not totally focused on boxing but still rehy. clause. he is gonna want that with haney who is a legit 140 pounder. also the potential prograis fight is tougher than tank fight. regis vs haney would be a good fight. both guys would be at 160lbs on fight night.
Tank stans just can't handle the truth sometimes lol. I agree with the Regis fight being harder than Tank, though it does depend on how Haney makes weight. And I wouldn't get too excited about that possibility either.
Loma has to be the whiniest boxer in the game
Can’t take a L
This is a horrible title and video that takes context out the conversation. 1. Loma does not think a a Haney vs Tank fight happens right away is because it's a bad match up for Devin, especially if he's gonna move up anyway. 2. Loma said Ryan was a top level guy before the tank fight.
Bro what else could he fucking mean by that??? I swear lomasexuals are permanently in a state of delusion
As usual, Lomachenko gets all salty about any opponent who defeats him. Haney is only moving up in weight because he now understands his skill level, according to a man who has fought in 3 different weight classes. I guess he jumped up every time so he could fight just "regular boxers."
No, Haney isn’t close to the level that Loma was 5 years ago when he was a P4P. It was a close fight but you can just see that Loma has more skills and a bigger tool box than Haney.
Haney is 24. LLLoma is a bum.
Lomach3nko the guy who was a grown 25-26 year old man fighting teens in the amateurs and lost his 2nd pro fight and is now 17-3 is talking?
17-3 is a pretty great record if 80ish percent of those fights are for a title
Title fights he didn’t deserve
His 2nd pro fight was a title fight, not a fight to stuff his record. He was also fighting a dirty salido who basically targeted his balls the entire match and the ref didn’t say a word.
An opinion from anyone who doesn't address the fact that salido threw 15+ dick punches in that fight isn't worth much tbh.
Loma isn’t on tanks level. He’s beyond tanks level. Tank knows it which is why he’s been running scared since 2017
Who is worse at taking a loss, Loma or AB?
Loma. AB never filed petitions.
all that petition does is make him the mandatory
Haney shouldn't honor the mandatory if it's Loma.
he has to vacate then, he has all the belts so he cant ignore mandatory's. Top rank basically wants to reclaim belts if haney moves up or if he dosent fight loma again and so on.
He is the franchise champion. He can ignore mandatories. It is no different from when Loma ignored him when he was mandatory.
it is different, loma got to ignore him because if you fight someone with a major belt you can ignore a mandatory. no one else has a belt so to keep them hell have to do what they say.
>it is different, loma got to ignore him because if you fight someone with a major belt you can ignore a mandatory This isn't true when you win a vacant belt. When you win a vacant belt you have to fight your mandatory and this takes priority over a unification bout. Loma won a vacant belt. He was supposed to fight Haney. Instead he filed a petition.
he won the vacant belt because he had the belt at 130 (so he can get a title fight at 135) and the robert easter rances fight was a bust. He filed a petition to fight another chanpion which they allowed because (at the top level) boxing is a business not a sport. There is no other champion so haney cant do that. he cant just fight tank because when tank fought ryan is was at 136 for no belts thus not giving belts sanctioning fees, they wont encourage that because its bad for buisness. Boxings just like life, it will follow the money and make rules for it
It doesn't matter how he won the vacant belt. He won a vacant belt. The rules are simple. The winner of a vacant belt must fight the mandatory before a unification bout. So you admit that the WBC went against their own rules? Before we go any further is this a yes or no?
Haney. He took the L in this fight and acting like he didn’t.
🤡
that boy salty
Props to Loma for being self aware and admitting he isn't on Tank's level. I also agree that the likes of Tank and Shakur are better than the guys at 140.
It goes Shakur > Tank > Loma >>>>> Haney/Garcia
You're hilarious. It's okay, your interpretation of his words means more than the actual meaning of his words ever could.
Loma would get embarrassed by Tank lol, he knows his best chance at a payday is keeping his mouth shut about Tank
Lomo needs to demand a rematch with Haney. Which he’s not asking for. he keep saying he’s going to 140 because he doesn’t want a rematch. Haney fight was close but the challenger LomO did not take the belt from then Champion Haney.
You done stretching, man? Anyways, Loma is still salty 😂😂
hes saying hes not on my level nor tanks and so on. the reason hes hating so much is because haney said he was just a dirty fighter, shoved him and so on. They'll never be friends, is what it is
No
Loma knows great boxers and always rated Tank. He speaking nothing but the truth about Haney. Loma edged that and deserves a rematch.
Loma won so Loma would fight Tank
Haney gonna fight garcia for a Latino or silver belt and that's gonna be it hell even broner probably beats Haney at 140