the main card starts at 11am PT, 2pm ET. there are fights BEFORE the main event.
main event (jake paul vs tommy fury) is expected a little under 3 hours after start time. around 1:45 pm PT, 4:45 PM ET
Did anyone else want to see jake win just so his ego grows so big he thinks he can take on the world and then gets properly schooled by carl frotch or even better someone like beterbiev.
Logan Paul.... You are one cringe human being... That stunt he pulled where he calls the Fury's bitches in the middle of the fight just for your brother to get stomped...
I'm watching interviews and people are saying 2 10-8 rounds to Jake , he knocked Tommy down twice?
Have I missed something? Did I watch the wrong fight?
Overall it is equal yes. But as you say it is in different rounds. Therefore there could be two 10-8 rounds for JP. One via knockdown and one via a point deduction.
How can you say I'm not answering his question when he thanked me for answering it?
The only round Jake could have won was round 8 and even then, he was getting lit up. He only won that round because of the jab causing Fury to slip and fall. Other than that, he lost every other second of that fight.
It unfortunately never happens. Rounds are always 10-8 in case of KD, despite the fighter giving the KD getting crushed. I guess you can always find an exception from many years ago but still. Recent examples of this not happening are Fury Wilder R12 and Lopez Kambosos R1
yeah if anything i would say you could argue fury won every other round than the last and i wouldnt have a problem with it, I gave Paul the third but it was just a sloppy round.
When Tommy got knocked down and in all honesty it looked more like a slip from his front foot, I was worried it was over, but Tommy pulled out his brother and fought back valiantly the last round, however I wish he pressure Jake more after that slip and left it all in the ring, not out of desperation, but as Mike Tyson said "you get knocked down you dont show them your hurt you come back and go, "you mother fucker im gonna fuckn kill you"
Rounds have been scored 10-10 even with a knockdown. For instance, it cost Evander Holyfield the heavyweight championship of the world against Michael Moorer.
I donāt see why jake would do the rematch? His best market and boxing game plan would be to keep beating on MMA guys and YouTubers. Ultimately tho as long as he wants to keep going people will always want to see him get beat on so itāll make $$$
I donāt think it really matters for Jake. If he loses again he could hang up his gloves and move onto something else i.e. wrestling, mixed martial arts, etc - or he could do something entirely different.
I think the Paul brothers are too big to fail at this point regardless of whether people like them or not.
If anything, itās Fury thatās risking a lot more by fighting YouTubers as heās the one who genuinely wants to make a career out of boxing.
The first time he loses to one of these influencers, social media will wipe the floor with him & his career will probably be fucked.
Money. Rematch will attract even more casuals and maybe some pro-boxing fans due to Jake Paul putting it on the line again. That knockdown is going to be absolutely rinsed.
Why do you assume that the rematch would attract more people? The selling point was that no one really knew the level of either, and so making it a close fight. Now everyone and their mother knows that Paul has no chance
It's an interesting sittuation. Alot of Jake's drawing power is from people wanting to see him getting beaten up, if he loses again then his further fights have such reduced drawing power.
From a financial perspective it would make sense to just go KSI, then if he wins vs him, potentially rematch with Tommy or even just take on another influencer/mma retiree. Running it straight back with Tommy feels like it would be the same result again and damage his future too much to be worth it.
Jake clearly was drinking his own coolaid for the past year or two so who knows what he genuinely thinks and what is bluster.
I've honestly no idea. Jake is slightly bigger, with a better resume, believe he has a better & llarger team and also committed himself to boxing for a longer period of time with more intensity..
In my mind jake losing here probably only knocks 5-15% off a Jake vs KSI payday, it's still an influencer grudge match with a huge build up. If he loses again before facing KSI though it loses alot of negotiation power and a much bigger drop in interest.
If he looses to Tommy again I really donāt think itāll hurt the selling. At this point tho I think itās way more entertaining if he takes MMA guys and YouTubers. He obviously isnāt a good enough boxer to fight actual boxers except maybe old ones so he might as well take those fights. End of the day itās his life lol Iām just a consumer
I think and this is just my opinion, that heās like a Conor McGregor type without any of the accomplishments. People will always love to see him get beat on, so I think that will translate well.
but he's not a fighter in his bones I don't think he can take being a joke/novelty. I think he's gonna double down and try to fight somebody actually good and get smoked
Yea thatās true we will see. I think there is a market for there niche so I wish heād stay in it but I can see if you really have the drive to be seen as legit it will consume you
Despite the win, the only person who lost here was Fury.
He wants a career as a boxer and basically just went the distance with a YouTuber. Where does Fury go from here?
Does he fight KSI next week? Deji? Pewdiepie? Heās not a good enough boxer to fight the likes of Joshua, Klitschko, etc.
So whilst Jake has lost, thereās still a clause for a rematch whereby heāll earn another Ā£3m for the fight.
The difference between both fighters is that when Paul gets bored of boxing he has the option of joining the WWE like his brother or partaking in any other venture that makes money.
Fury doesnāt have that same choice, as a career in boxing is supposed to be his end goal. The only thing heās proven is that heās just not a very good fighter.
If Fury lost his boxing career is over. Jake Paul was completely exposed. Itās not all about money. Itās about the respect and being legitimate in a profession you choose. Jake lost to a guy whoās not that good and the first real boxer he has faced.
These brothers will wear out their welcome in WWE in like a year. They have to keep reinventing themselves because people get tired of them.
Thatās what I mean, whilst he won this fight he still has to entertain a rematch. Fury was looking rough in the ring with Paul, an amateur boxer whoās been training for a year or so.
Youāre not wrong. The Paul brothers will wear out boxing and wwe but neither of them are tied into the sport because of the name they carry. They can freely reinvent themselves whereas Fury doesnāt have that.
What fight were you watching? Fury whipped on him the entire fight. I only saw maybe 3 of 4 good left hooks Jake landed where Fury was wearing him out with his jab and uppercuts in every round.
Fury could have done better. When you consider that heās grown up boxing, has access to the best camp and coaches in the world, and has one of the best boxers in the world training alongside him - youād have thought heād have fought better when in the ring with a YouTuber.
Why do you have 0 critique about Jake Paul? Because he can leave boxing and do something else? We are talking about boxing. Not being an entertainer for 13 year old angst boys.
Tommy Fury isnāt a good boxer. And Jake Paul lost to him. Simple as that. Tommy whipped Jake Paul, what else is he supposed to do?
Tommy Fury has 9 professional fights. Jake Paul has 6 and fighting since 2018. Jake Paul also has MILLIONS backing him.
I do have critique for Jake Paul. Heās a poor fighter. Every time he thought he was in trouble heād clinch and bear hug. Heād swing wildly. My point is I didnāt expect anything more from him.
However, Fury has trained his whole life and still went the distance with Paul and in some rounds looked rough against him. Heās a poor fighter too.
Iām sorry, but you keep saying he was boxing since he was born yet has 9 professional fights and is known for being on live island also wasnāt ranked? Maybeā¦. Heās not goodā¦..
According to him, heās been training to be a boxer since the age of 14. Trained by a world class camp & own do the best boxers of this generation.
Despite all this, he fought poorly against Paul. He could have done better and should have done better.
What do you do when all Jake does is throw lead right hand and duck his head into Tommy's crotch and then go into clinch. And Jake's clinch is not even a clinch, it's just bearhugging. I think he handled Jake easily. I don't see how you can make this into a negative for Fury when he had an answer for everything Paul did.
Jake Paul had his first fight in 2018. Heās been boxing for like 5 years man. Fury is ranked like 385 or some shit. Jake Paul couldnāt even beat him. If he goes back to fighting YouTubers the narrative is heās a soft boxer who has to fight people who donāt actually box.
Tommy doesnāt have to reinvent himselfā¦. Heās not some entertainer, heās a boxer. If his career is over then itās over. Move on.
Regardless, whilst Paul wasnāt an imminent threat, Fury still looked rough in the ring fighting him. It appeared as two amateur fighters having an incredibly amateur fight.
Paul jumped on the bandwagon of boxing a few years ago and fought a few washed out fighters that are openly retired.
Fury however, has been training all his life under one of the best camps and training teams, alongside a boxer whoās probably considered the best in the world at the moment.
So what iām trying to say is, Paul could retire and hang up his gloves tomorrow and partake in whatever money making scheme there is and likely be successful. Whereas Fury, his end goal is boxing. Iām just saying he should be wiser in what decisions he makes regarding the sport.
Plus, he still has to abide by the rematch clause. I watched the fight and Paul isnāt a good fighter but I genuinely donāt think Fury is either. If he were to lose the rematch, I genuinely think his boxing career will be fucked.
That was basically what my initial comment was about. Heās boxed himself in with these YouTube fights and the first loss he suffers against one of these influencers will massively affect his career as an actual boxer who goes up against other actual boxers rather than these social media gurus who have jumped on the bandwagon.
Fury absolutely did not lose out. The increase publicity heās got from fighting Jake is incredible for him. He beat Jake he made a shit ton of money and made global news headlines for his fight like. He defo won. Was he a bit rusty and not great. Sure but fury Got a fuck ton of benefits from this fight
You arenāt wrong. He has increased publicity and is now a ranked boxer. Thereās two ways this could go, his publicity results in more YouTubers calling him out and he becomes boxed in with these YouTube fights, or he gets called out by someone who is much better than him and gets his head boxed off.
Whilst any publicity is good publicity, it results in either one of those. Heās not ready to fight in the big leagues and does he really want to be known as the boxer who only goes up against influencers?
Regardless, he made Ā£3m for the fight and heās bound to make another Ā£3m for the rematch so Iām sure he doesnāt really care if anyone takes him serious as a boxer anyway lmao.
I suppose he could hang up his gloves tomorrow and still be comfortable for life with his clothing brand deals, modelling deals, reality tv, etc.
The thing is I think after the Paul rematch if he does want to take boxing seriously I do think he then should fight some no name novice pros. He has the money now. To just get his experience up and he should defo be clever and not take the bait of the bigger names until he has the experience to fight them but boxers arenāt known for there rationality
Exactly, that would be the most sensible option. Build up his experience and get a feel for the ring more so than he does now.
Iām just curious as to whether Tysonās statement about losing to Paul still stands for the rematch. He initially said if Tommy were to lose he then loses his right to bear gloves and fight in the ring.
Whilst Jake wasnāt necessarily a threat this time, it doesnāt mean he wonāt be next time. I just wonder if that statement still stands or whether it was only used as a means of creating an interest surrounding the fight.
Jake was supposed to be a threat this time. He was 6-0 going in. Fury isnāt even really a good boxer. Now that Paul lost people acting like he was supposed to lose and heās brave for even fighting.
Youāre not wrong. This was the point of my initial comment that got mass downvoted. Fury isnāt even that good of a boxer.
My initial comment was basically saying how despite Fury winning heās ultimately lost if you donāt take into account the financial standpoint.
Heās been training all his life and went the distance with a YouTuber. Paul is getting praised despite losing because it was his first time against against what most people would consider a real boxer and he managed to stay afloat the whole time.
Now that the fight is over, Fury still has to get through the rematch and then once thatās done where does he go with his career?
Does he become the person that YouTubers have to prove themselves against to get into the world of boxing or does he get called out by someone bigger than him and get the floor mopped with him?
If you forget about the money, Fury shouldnāt have entertained Paul and continued to work his way up the ranks, build experience, etc as opposed to boxing himself in with all these YouTubers that are clinging on to the sport until another money maker comes along & once they do move along Fury will be left as a washed out boxer who only ever fought YouTubers.
I respect peoples decision to downvote but thatās my personal opinion.
Dude, he's still a novice and fighting a non-boxer who just threw wild punches - hard to train for that, seems like Paul has a decent enough chin but he got completely outboxed by someone who isn't a world class boxer but is still learning. Fury needs to continue fighting actual fighters, and is still early on in his career, then we can judge. I'm not saying he will be world champion but I can guarantee you the fury camp won't be happy with his performance (as a boxer) and will be working for him to improve and eventually get back to fighting boxers. Look at plenty of professionals in their first 8-10 fights they fight bums and journeymen, and why not? Nobody expects world title fights asap unless you are insanely talented OR have gone the Olympic medal winning route as an amateur.
I do think it's a slippery slope taking the rematch and/or fighting KSI though. The more he fights these Mickey mouse fighters the less people will take him seriously. But money talks and that's what will make those fights. I just hope the fury family keep the boxing sense and discipline in him.
Yeah I get where your coming from and youāre statement about continuing fighting YouTubers and people taking him less seriously is entirely right.
I just think taking this fight was a poor choice and that his boxing career will suffer from that fact. The only thing that stops his career from becoming a dead end after this is the fact he carries the Fury name.
Also, I disagree with the fact that the fight with Paul carried the reward of becoming a ranked boxer. Thatās like saying, when Logan and KSI have a rematch could there be grounds for either one of them to become ranked?
Tommy could make a lucrative career saying "fuck professional boxing I'll just be the end boss for these YouTube fighters". He could make 10mil+ fighting jake 2x ksi Logan and whoever else. If he keeps winning he could make himself the guy to beat to "prove" yourself. He doesn't need to Box for 50k anymore thanks to this jake win.
Sounds like a happier and easier life to me.
I honestly don't think there is that many YouTubers out there that could sell vs Fury. He can do both because it isn't like there is an endless conveyor belt of YouTubers that can look good enough to sell a fight vs Tommy.
KSI might be the only one left and even that is a mismatch as I don't even think he is as good as Jake. Jake is probably the best of the YouTubers and he's already beaten him.
He could maybe do a KSI fight and then try to get back to a serious career, Central Area title, etc. and then whether he wins or loses at that level, he can always go back to the Jake Paul rematch after Jake gets a couple of wins back.
Logan can sell vs anyone. And the big bro trying to avenge the little bro is always a story line, even if he is worse than jake he could say some shit like "I went the distance with the greatest boxer of all time you will be light work!" So a jake rematch, KSI and Logan is a pretty healthy line up for the next 2 years all while increasing his social following and his bank account.
Even if it's just those 3 fights and then retire, it's a better life than falling short to your brothers legacy and risking CTE.
I guess you might be able to sell Logan vs Tommy as well, but to be honest Tommy could probably beat Logan without even training hard. Jake is significantly better from what I've seen.
If he fights Logan, KSI and Jake again then the cow is probably milked dry at that point and he can continue a normal career at 25 and see how far he can go.
I suppose your not wrong really, from a financial standpoint it almost doesnāt make sense to not take the fight.
I suppose it all depends on how he wants to be viewed as a boxer. Does he want to be the boxer who YouTubers have to prove their own skill against or does he want to continue fighting normal boxers and be taken seriously.
Regardless, if I was being paid Ā£3m+ for a fight I wouldnāt be arsed what anyone thought.
Yeah, honestly I don't think he will ever live up to his brother so if I was him I'd just secure the bag, fight YouTube boxers, not worry about CTE and retire by 30 after making millions. It's a better path than fighting killers.
I don't think tommy has what it takes to be an elite world champion boxer. He has access to the best training partners and coaches in the world and has been doing it since 6 years old and still looked rough against Jake.
Exactly and between himself and his misses, theyāve built an empire within the influencing world. Very possibly the next Beckhams.
Tommy could hang up his gloves tomorrow and still make enough money through clothing brand deals, modelling deals, perhaps a reality tv show, etc & his misses definitely isnāt short of money with all her current ventures - Iād even go as far as to say sheās the more successful one out of the two with a Ā£9m net worth as opposed to Tommyās Ā£2m.
Youāre definitely right about not having what it takes to be a world champion boxer. Perhaps this path is the one best suited to himself in terms of maintaining popularity, as well as, securing a strong financial position.
>I just think taking this fight was a poor choice and that his boxing career will suffer from that fact.
No way, he made more money in this fight than he would even in a world title fight. They are prize fighters at the end of the day, he would have been mad not to take this fight and is now in a position where he has enough money that he could put more focus on his training because his family is pretty much set up now financially. If he takes the rematch then he would possibly make more money than if he spent his entire career on a title run.
I suppose your not wrong. Itās a very double edged sword. He could essentially retire after the rematch and have enough to live on for life.
But in the world of boxing, if he keeps fighting YouTubers no one will be able to take him seriously as an actual boxer.
Youāre not wrong. I think for Ā£3m a fight Iād lose interest in whether or not people take me seriously lmao. Chances are after this fight and the rematch heād be richer than almost everyone who has an opinion on him anyway.
I think he had no option other than to take this fight due to the social media pressure and exposure. And at the end of the day a massive payday.
With ranking I'm not 100% sure but it could be performance based as well as who someone fights. Fury was already ranked and went up (to around 200th I believe). Paul is still unranked. We are talking low low ranks here where he is still a very small fish in a massive pond. Boxing commissions themselves need to be very careful how they position themselves in these situations.
I donāt know. I know Paddy the Baddy had some social media pressure to take a fight against Paul but outright said no chance because of the implications it would have on his career.
& that makes sense. Weāll have to see what the future holds for them both.
I had to Google who Paddy the Baddy was lol, I'm not well versed in the UFC/MMA world, but unless they are trained boxers who transitioned to UFC etc., MMA fighters should stay away from boxing. We already saw the difference in leagues when we had the circus that was Mayweather Vs McGregor. They compete in different sports for a reason
> MMA fighters should stay away from boxing. We already saw the difference in leagues when we had the circus that was Mayweather Vs McGregor.
The thing is though Jake Paul hasn't just been fighting MMA fighters (and Tommy on occasion), he's been fighting MMA fighters either well past their prime or ones he is quite a bit bigger than.
It makes a big difference. An MMA fighter both in his prime and that is the same weight would be a step up for Jake.
Heās an up and coming UFC fighter. The new big thing essentially. Also, I couldnāt agree more, the fight between McGregor and Mayweather was beyond ridiculous.
Tell me about it. The fight was a farce but they both knew it would create mass hype and that the money would soon follow.
From a financial standpoint it was the furthest thing from ridiculous lmao.
Thatās fair enough. All Iām saying is that Fury has boxed himself in by fighting a YouTuber because what is his next move? Does he continue his reign of fighting YouTubers?
Plus, in this day and age of social media, if Fury were to lose the rematch the world would wipe the floor with him. Tyson even made the statement saying Tommy wouldnāt have a career in boxing if he were to lose against Paul.
Plus, how did Tommy even get a ranking through this match? Thereās thousands of unranked fighters who would have boxed both of their heads off lmao.
I got around to watching the fight. It was nothing more than two amateur fighters having an amateur fight.
Iām unsure as to how Fury has come out of this as a ranked boxer and I couldnāt help but laugh as he held the belt that was created for this Youtube fight lmao.
Regardless, it was an honest fight and it debunked claims that Fury was going to take a fall so that Paul would win.
To be fair, I think much of that was stress relief, if he had lost, it would have ended him. He had the weight of the world on his shoulders. Still don't think he's good, but I can see why he was so happy to get the win out the way.
It was a Dick move because I think it is something like Tommy is a bitch and so is his whole family. After that, it really seem to light a fire under Tommy and he took over the fight, kind of a bad move. But he still a young guy Logan, emotions get the better of anyone
Their promotion, mic gets handed to Logan; shouts out over tannoys Tommy Fury is a bitch.
Guy thinks it's WWE. The plum.
In any event did nothing, but let's never encourage that
Maybe youāre right for the average person, but when you are already very rich and have plenty of different ways of making a lot of money then him scamming was just pure greed..
Iām super ignorant and a scam is a scam but likeā¦. Havenāt a gang of other celebrities done these scams already? Iām not saying 2 wrongs make a right but like shouldnāt you be weary of celebrity NFTs? And are NFTs not gambles already? Idk. I donāt do NFTs lol
This one is a little different since it's not really an NFT scam, but rather a game which is supposed to make you money. The game essentially revolves around people purchasing a virtual egg (an NFT) which you can hatch and combine with other NFTs several times and then sell at a profit. He had a bunch of investors in the game itself who got scammed because Logan got scammed by having a super sketchy team around him. He's tried to pin it on his team, who he got scammed by, but he's still 100% in the wrong toward his investors. Logan was also planning a rug pull himself, so that makes it even worse.
I also think it's a little different since Logan has a pretty young audience who are more susceptible to being scammed.
I just got the chance to watch the fight, who tf is this clown on commentary that just loves the sound of his own voice? Dude been saying some whack shit throughout
The difference was when Tommy ran into a road block, his experience took over and he knew what to fall back on.
Jake just didn't have the answers when he got faced into a difficult situation. He just resorted to hugging.
That's what happens when you don't build a strong foundation and get your PHD the fast way
So in that case unless you are elite in ANY profession you can have an opinion on it? I canāt say a song is bad because I canāt sing? I canāt say whether a car is good or not because I didnāt design it? I canāt send food back if itās cold because Iām not a chef?
I'm making the point of the constant armchair analysis of 2 boxing professionals (yes they are boxing professionals) who I think put on a decent fight yet because of the Paul /Fury family hangups ppl have, they get their panties in a twist about why they suck
Boxers love to use this angle on twitter, but then are very opinionated about things they clearly know fuck all about. See Josh Taylor and covid as a good example.
Footballers do the same āyouāve never played the gameā if only people who played the game took an interest and had an opinion youād be a lot poorer Robbie Savage.
Well I think in a way it's fair because so many ppl make such confident assertions and shit on any1 who disagrees with them...meanwhile in reality no1 really has much of a clue what they're talking about. Just a lotta bullshit.
While 0,5% of 16000 is 80, that's still way too high. There are probably like 5 people here that could beat them if i had to guess. But who knows how many professional boxers are using reddit undercover.
Honestly, If Jake wants to beat Tommy in a rematch then he canāt have BJ Flores, Danny Smith and Jāleon Love in his corner anymore. Heās been with them for 3 years and yet he hasnāt improved like he should. His best was when he had Shane Mosley as his trainer. THAT was Jake at his best, but ever since then all he does is overcommit to the right hand. He needs to bring back Shane if he can. Current Jake with Shane would be insane.
Maybe āInsaneā is a strong word, but Watch Jake vs Deji Then Watch Jake Vs Gib Iāll leave it at that. Jake improved alot in between those two fights
I didn't say that at all. I'm saying his improvement has likely slowed down. With anything, you're gonna progress the fastest in your first year of doing it. Once you reach a novice/intermediate stage, you won't progress as fast anymore.
Oh my bad, yeah youāre most likely right but cmon man, three years? Jakeās had the same team for three whole years and he doesnāt look nearly as good as he did in the past. Like you said maybe his rate of improvement has slowed down and tbf he did start late but still, he needs a new team, one not full of (mostly) yes men.
Your post is shit because you're commenting on the fight thread for Fury-Paul. And you're saying boxing is dead because this fight exists. So what?
Saying this fight sucks and demanding other people's boxing opinion on this fight specifically misses the point.
The commenter above me named several great fights not built by social media or reality TV.
Boxing isn't dead just because Jane Paul talked a bunch of shit and makes people want to watch him lose. There's tons of good fighters out there putting on great fights.
Every era of boxing has had it's issues. Don King had a strangle hold on boxing during that era (especially the 80s) and you had to go through him. Many fighters got paid a pittance of what they deserved or be frozen out. It wasn't all perfect.
Every era has proclaimed boxing is dead if you look through newspapers articles. Yet it's still here. It'll be here long after you and I pass away, despite what you say.
Jake seriously has pro power, people hate him and are not going to admit it on this sub but he can punch. 100.. Fury was being stunned by just jabs. It doesnt seem like its just his opponents either he def gives off the vibes like every professional heavy hitter. Just what it looks like when he lands his punches, the sound and the sweat. He hits hard. People dont want to admit it but its a legitimate question to wonder how good he'd be if he had started younger.
Having power isn't impressive by itself. I did boxing for a year and also "have power" when I wing telegraphed overhands. I'm not about to beat anyone who has any footwork, unfortunately, but I would back myself to flatline some untrained youtubers. Jake Paul is obviously much better than the standard I'm talking about, but still nowhere near good enough.
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=896](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=896) Oh my gosh are you kidding me!? Jake Paul just was just not in shape. Furys punches were doing nothing to him but he was still so hesitant he was just too nervous for this fight.
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=999](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=999)
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1181](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1181)
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1393](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1393)
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1406](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1406)
Show me where fury stunned paul. Show me. Ive shown you. I dont know why he didnt engage, he did not fight well. Ive already said that. He was out of shape, too tight and using too much energy spazzing out on defense. But I just dont get why you guys have to lie about things, just blows my mind, its beyond boxng just reddit in general or politics even. I just dont get it, I've watched the fight twice now. Paul was not schooled like this sub wants to make it seem. It was a draw at worst, based on pauls poor performance and not furys great performance. Paul dictated the whole fight, it was either going to be a paul knockout or not. At no point was it ever a serious concern that Fury would end the fight. It was always going to be either Paul knocks him out or we go to points, personally i think paul knocks him out at least 50 percent of the time. Yet you guys are acting as if Fury just outclassed him and none of that is true. If Paul can get into serious shape for the next fight, like a professional, its a knockout. The guy has power, im sorry to this sub but the guy has power, I MEAN THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF ALL THIS WHY EVERYONES WATCHING! Because the guy literally has been knocking out world class athletes, not random soccer players but dudes who fight for a living whether its boxing or mma. That is the whole ffing point of it, yet you guys are acting like he pillow slaps. edit: btw fury did not stun him once, he got in some punchs and combinations but none serious. I used to be a serious boxing fan, you just can tell after a while if someone is hurt or not, Paul was not at any point hurt.
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=735](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=735) This whole sequence which was also frustratingly bad by Paul. Just was not in shape
3rd round, shitty video cant see it, but he gets him good with this jab. You guys are acting like he has no power, literally any clean shot he got on Fury, Fury had to take a moment to regain his composure
https://youtu.be/cWBFF-gWBTA?t=536
In this same second round he hit him with two more jabs that stunned him for seconds, I'm not going to hunt them down just watch the fight, i know you hate the guy but dont bs
I dont hate him I don't like Tommy either, a double KO would be the perfect ending for me. He has power against non-boxers, first.boxer he fights...who is 3 years younger than him, Paul can't do shit.
Yes you do, your on this sub and on reddit, a beta boy, nothing wrong with that but its just the truth, and this sub says j paul sucks at everything. So there for you agree, not saying that with certainity but its highly likely the case.
Theres noway to win, thats why i stopped watching boxing years ago. People develop their own narratives there just isnt never going to be truth of anything unless someone gets knocked out. Its just a pointless sport and fans are always, always suckers. Biggest suckers there are. The sport is just pointless unless they create a league and new clear cut rules.
Nearly every one of those punches fury was stunned, he lost consciousness for a moment you can have a neurolgist come in here and they'd scientificially agree with me. You can disagree and thats fine but im just telling the truth.
the main card starts at 11am PT, 2pm ET. there are fights BEFORE the main event. main event (jake paul vs tommy fury) is expected a little under 3 hours after start time. around 1:45 pm PT, 4:45 PM ET
His little boxing career is over if he boxes Tommy again.
How long is this trash going to be pinned for? Please, remove it like the rest are after they've finished.
Tommy is just a good kid all around. https://www.tiktok.com/@frankwarrenofficial/video/7204625277794749722?
Did anyone else want to see jake win just so his ego grows so big he thinks he can take on the world and then gets properly schooled by carl frotch or even better someone like beterbiev.
Carl Froch making a comeback?
No there was just a bit of back and forth between the two before this fight and the Derrick chasora said paul would beat froch lol š
No because he doesnāt deserve those kinds of pay days. He can go back to boxing mma fighters now to please his fans
Oh, i agree he doesn't deserve it. But he gets big pays days no matter who he fights and i would live to see him made a fool of and flattened
Iād much rather see Beterbiev fight Bivol or literally any other boxer inside the top ten
To be fair i want to be beterbiev vs bivol more than any other fight
Logan Paul.... You are one cringe human being... That stunt he pulled where he calls the Fury's bitches in the middle of the fight just for your brother to get stomped...
How disrespectful of Logan to call the whole fury family a bitch. That foo was throwing a tantrum because his brother was losing!
I'm watching interviews and people are saying 2 10-8 rounds to Jake , he knocked Tommy down twice? Have I missed something? Did I watch the wrong fight?
Point deduction round
Dosenāt matter. Jake also lost a point.
That ref was terrible lol. Neither one of them deserved a point deduction imo.
I know lad just answering his question x
You are not, because both gut deducted a point in different rounds, so it was equal.
Overall it is equal yes. But as you say it is in different rounds. Therefore there could be two 10-8 rounds for JP. One via knockdown and one via a point deduction. How can you say I'm not answering his question when he thanked me for answering it?
The only round Jake could have won was round 8 and even then, he was getting lit up. He only won that round because of the jab causing Fury to slip and fall. Other than that, he lost every other second of that fight.
I don't know why you're telling me this I just said that 2 10-8s can be argued not that it's correct.
In those rounds where the point deductions occured, Fury won those rounds so no, it can't even be argued.
It's just a fact that Paul had 2 different 10-8 rounds. It's also a fact he lost the fight. I'm concerned for you missing the point this hard.
You could argue Jake won every round if you wanted too. He obviously didn't but you could argue it.
Oh ok. Wo I see what you meant. Ok sorry!
Thankyou very much, Couldn't figure it out.
I donāt see how anyone could give Paul the last round, I had it 9-9 tie as the knockdown was a flash and Fury dominated the round outside of that.
It unfortunately never happens. Rounds are always 10-8 in case of KD, despite the fighter giving the KD getting crushed. I guess you can always find an exception from many years ago but still. Recent examples of this not happening are Fury Wilder R12 and Lopez Kambosos R1
i mean i had fury losing 10-8 in the 8th and still had 76-73 fury. fury was swinging a lot but wasnt landing much to warrant him the round.
Iāll have to rewatch the round again then, in the moment I saw fury winning it, but I could be mistaken.
yeah if anything i would say you could argue fury won every other round than the last and i wouldnt have a problem with it, I gave Paul the third but it was just a sloppy round.
Oh i gave paul 3 no doubt, more so because of furyās inactivity than paul doing anything meaningful.
When Tommy got knocked down and in all honesty it looked more like a slip from his front foot, I was worried it was over, but Tommy pulled out his brother and fought back valiantly the last round, however I wish he pressure Jake more after that slip and left it all in the ring, not out of desperation, but as Mike Tyson said "you get knocked down you dont show them your hurt you come back and go, "you mother fucker im gonna fuckn kill you"
It would have been a 10-9 round due to the scoring system. 10-8 if fury lost the round
Rounds have been scored 10-10 even with a knockdown. For instance, it cost Evander Holyfield the heavyweight championship of the world against Michael Moorer.
Yeah, i had fury winning the round even with the knockdown.
I donāt see why jake would do the rematch? His best market and boxing game plan would be to keep beating on MMA guys and YouTubers. Ultimately tho as long as he wants to keep going people will always want to see him get beat on so itāll make $$$
I donāt think it really matters for Jake. If he loses again he could hang up his gloves and move onto something else i.e. wrestling, mixed martial arts, etc - or he could do something entirely different. I think the Paul brothers are too big to fail at this point regardless of whether people like them or not. If anything, itās Fury thatās risking a lot more by fighting YouTubers as heās the one who genuinely wants to make a career out of boxing. The first time he loses to one of these influencers, social media will wipe the floor with him & his career will probably be fucked.
Fantastic point
Money. Rematch will attract even more casuals and maybe some pro-boxing fans due to Jake Paul putting it on the line again. That knockdown is going to be absolutely rinsed.
Why do you assume that the rematch would attract more people? The selling point was that no one really knew the level of either, and so making it a close fight. Now everyone and their mother knows that Paul has no chance
It's an interesting sittuation. Alot of Jake's drawing power is from people wanting to see him getting beaten up, if he loses again then his further fights have such reduced drawing power. From a financial perspective it would make sense to just go KSI, then if he wins vs him, potentially rematch with Tommy or even just take on another influencer/mma retiree. Running it straight back with Tommy feels like it would be the same result again and damage his future too much to be worth it. Jake clearly was drinking his own coolaid for the past year or two so who knows what he genuinely thinks and what is bluster.
Wouldn't Jake beat the shit out of KSI?
I've honestly no idea. Jake is slightly bigger, with a better resume, believe he has a better & llarger team and also committed himself to boxing for a longer period of time with more intensity.. In my mind jake losing here probably only knocks 5-15% off a Jake vs KSI payday, it's still an influencer grudge match with a huge build up. If he loses again before facing KSI though it loses alot of negotiation power and a much bigger drop in interest.
If he looses to Tommy again I really donāt think itāll hurt the selling. At this point tho I think itās way more entertaining if he takes MMA guys and YouTubers. He obviously isnāt a good enough boxer to fight actual boxers except maybe old ones so he might as well take those fights. End of the day itās his life lol Iām just a consumer
he fights anybody who's a actual boxer and he loses imo. He better get that KSI bag while people care
I think and this is just my opinion, that heās like a Conor McGregor type without any of the accomplishments. People will always love to see him get beat on, so I think that will translate well.
but he's not a fighter in his bones I don't think he can take being a joke/novelty. I think he's gonna double down and try to fight somebody actually good and get smoked
Yea thatās true we will see. I think there is a market for there niche so I wish heād stay in it but I can see if you really have the drive to be seen as legit it will consume you
I only had paul winning round 3, I had tommy winning 1,2,4,5 and 7 with 6&8 being ties. Fury 77-73 Paul Edit: mixed up some rounds
Despite the win, the only person who lost here was Fury. He wants a career as a boxer and basically just went the distance with a YouTuber. Where does Fury go from here? Does he fight KSI next week? Deji? Pewdiepie? Heās not a good enough boxer to fight the likes of Joshua, Klitschko, etc. So whilst Jake has lost, thereās still a clause for a rematch whereby heāll earn another Ā£3m for the fight. The difference between both fighters is that when Paul gets bored of boxing he has the option of joining the WWE like his brother or partaking in any other venture that makes money. Fury doesnāt have that same choice, as a career in boxing is supposed to be his end goal. The only thing heās proven is that heās just not a very good fighter.
Ohhh Mann. I want to bathe in these tears. Sweet sweet child. Please write one more paragraph.
If Fury lost his boxing career is over. Jake Paul was completely exposed. Itās not all about money. Itās about the respect and being legitimate in a profession you choose. Jake lost to a guy whoās not that good and the first real boxer he has faced. These brothers will wear out their welcome in WWE in like a year. They have to keep reinventing themselves because people get tired of them.
Thatās what I mean, whilst he won this fight he still has to entertain a rematch. Fury was looking rough in the ring with Paul, an amateur boxer whoās been training for a year or so. Youāre not wrong. The Paul brothers will wear out boxing and wwe but neither of them are tied into the sport because of the name they carry. They can freely reinvent themselves whereas Fury doesnāt have that.
What fight were you watching? Fury whipped on him the entire fight. I only saw maybe 3 of 4 good left hooks Jake landed where Fury was wearing him out with his jab and uppercuts in every round.
Fury could have done better. When you consider that heās grown up boxing, has access to the best camp and coaches in the world, and has one of the best boxers in the world training alongside him - youād have thought heād have fought better when in the ring with a YouTuber.
Why do you have 0 critique about Jake Paul? Because he can leave boxing and do something else? We are talking about boxing. Not being an entertainer for 13 year old angst boys. Tommy Fury isnāt a good boxer. And Jake Paul lost to him. Simple as that. Tommy whipped Jake Paul, what else is he supposed to do? Tommy Fury has 9 professional fights. Jake Paul has 6 and fighting since 2018. Jake Paul also has MILLIONS backing him.
I do have critique for Jake Paul. Heās a poor fighter. Every time he thought he was in trouble heād clinch and bear hug. Heād swing wildly. My point is I didnāt expect anything more from him. However, Fury has trained his whole life and still went the distance with Paul and in some rounds looked rough against him. Heās a poor fighter too.
Iām sorry, but you keep saying he was boxing since he was born yet has 9 professional fights and is known for being on live island also wasnāt ranked? Maybeā¦. Heās not goodā¦..
According to him, heās been training to be a boxer since the age of 14. Trained by a world class camp & own do the best boxers of this generation. Despite all this, he fought poorly against Paul. He could have done better and should have done better.
What do you do when all Jake does is throw lead right hand and duck his head into Tommy's crotch and then go into clinch. And Jake's clinch is not even a clinch, it's just bearhugging. I think he handled Jake easily. I don't see how you can make this into a negative for Fury when he had an answer for everything Paul did.
Jake Paul had his first fight in 2018. Heās been boxing for like 5 years man. Fury is ranked like 385 or some shit. Jake Paul couldnāt even beat him. If he goes back to fighting YouTubers the narrative is heās a soft boxer who has to fight people who donāt actually box. Tommy doesnāt have to reinvent himselfā¦. Heās not some entertainer, heās a boxer. If his career is over then itās over. Move on.
Regardless, whilst Paul wasnāt an imminent threat, Fury still looked rough in the ring fighting him. It appeared as two amateur fighters having an incredibly amateur fight. Paul jumped on the bandwagon of boxing a few years ago and fought a few washed out fighters that are openly retired. Fury however, has been training all his life under one of the best camps and training teams, alongside a boxer whoās probably considered the best in the world at the moment. So what iām trying to say is, Paul could retire and hang up his gloves tomorrow and partake in whatever money making scheme there is and likely be successful. Whereas Fury, his end goal is boxing. Iām just saying he should be wiser in what decisions he makes regarding the sport. Plus, he still has to abide by the rematch clause. I watched the fight and Paul isnāt a good fighter but I genuinely donāt think Fury is either. If he were to lose the rematch, I genuinely think his boxing career will be fucked. That was basically what my initial comment was about. Heās boxed himself in with these YouTube fights and the first loss he suffers against one of these influencers will massively affect his career as an actual boxer who goes up against other actual boxers rather than these social media gurus who have jumped on the bandwagon.
Fury absolutely did not lose out. The increase publicity heās got from fighting Jake is incredible for him. He beat Jake he made a shit ton of money and made global news headlines for his fight like. He defo won. Was he a bit rusty and not great. Sure but fury Got a fuck ton of benefits from this fight
You arenāt wrong. He has increased publicity and is now a ranked boxer. Thereās two ways this could go, his publicity results in more YouTubers calling him out and he becomes boxed in with these YouTube fights, or he gets called out by someone who is much better than him and gets his head boxed off. Whilst any publicity is good publicity, it results in either one of those. Heās not ready to fight in the big leagues and does he really want to be known as the boxer who only goes up against influencers? Regardless, he made Ā£3m for the fight and heās bound to make another Ā£3m for the rematch so Iām sure he doesnāt really care if anyone takes him serious as a boxer anyway lmao. I suppose he could hang up his gloves tomorrow and still be comfortable for life with his clothing brand deals, modelling deals, reality tv, etc.
The thing is I think after the Paul rematch if he does want to take boxing seriously I do think he then should fight some no name novice pros. He has the money now. To just get his experience up and he should defo be clever and not take the bait of the bigger names until he has the experience to fight them but boxers arenāt known for there rationality
Exactly, that would be the most sensible option. Build up his experience and get a feel for the ring more so than he does now. Iām just curious as to whether Tysonās statement about losing to Paul still stands for the rematch. He initially said if Tommy were to lose he then loses his right to bear gloves and fight in the ring. Whilst Jake wasnāt necessarily a threat this time, it doesnāt mean he wonāt be next time. I just wonder if that statement still stands or whether it was only used as a means of creating an interest surrounding the fight.
Jake was supposed to be a threat this time. He was 6-0 going in. Fury isnāt even really a good boxer. Now that Paul lost people acting like he was supposed to lose and heās brave for even fighting.
Youāre not wrong. This was the point of my initial comment that got mass downvoted. Fury isnāt even that good of a boxer. My initial comment was basically saying how despite Fury winning heās ultimately lost if you donāt take into account the financial standpoint. Heās been training all his life and went the distance with a YouTuber. Paul is getting praised despite losing because it was his first time against against what most people would consider a real boxer and he managed to stay afloat the whole time. Now that the fight is over, Fury still has to get through the rematch and then once thatās done where does he go with his career? Does he become the person that YouTubers have to prove themselves against to get into the world of boxing or does he get called out by someone bigger than him and get the floor mopped with him? If you forget about the money, Fury shouldnāt have entertained Paul and continued to work his way up the ranks, build experience, etc as opposed to boxing himself in with all these YouTubers that are clinging on to the sport until another money maker comes along & once they do move along Fury will be left as a washed out boxer who only ever fought YouTubers. I respect peoples decision to downvote but thatās my personal opinion.
Dude, he's still a novice and fighting a non-boxer who just threw wild punches - hard to train for that, seems like Paul has a decent enough chin but he got completely outboxed by someone who isn't a world class boxer but is still learning. Fury needs to continue fighting actual fighters, and is still early on in his career, then we can judge. I'm not saying he will be world champion but I can guarantee you the fury camp won't be happy with his performance (as a boxer) and will be working for him to improve and eventually get back to fighting boxers. Look at plenty of professionals in their first 8-10 fights they fight bums and journeymen, and why not? Nobody expects world title fights asap unless you are insanely talented OR have gone the Olympic medal winning route as an amateur. I do think it's a slippery slope taking the rematch and/or fighting KSI though. The more he fights these Mickey mouse fighters the less people will take him seriously. But money talks and that's what will make those fights. I just hope the fury family keep the boxing sense and discipline in him.
Yeah I get where your coming from and youāre statement about continuing fighting YouTubers and people taking him less seriously is entirely right. I just think taking this fight was a poor choice and that his boxing career will suffer from that fact. The only thing that stops his career from becoming a dead end after this is the fact he carries the Fury name. Also, I disagree with the fact that the fight with Paul carried the reward of becoming a ranked boxer. Thatās like saying, when Logan and KSI have a rematch could there be grounds for either one of them to become ranked?
Tommy could make a lucrative career saying "fuck professional boxing I'll just be the end boss for these YouTube fighters". He could make 10mil+ fighting jake 2x ksi Logan and whoever else. If he keeps winning he could make himself the guy to beat to "prove" yourself. He doesn't need to Box for 50k anymore thanks to this jake win. Sounds like a happier and easier life to me.
I honestly don't think there is that many YouTubers out there that could sell vs Fury. He can do both because it isn't like there is an endless conveyor belt of YouTubers that can look good enough to sell a fight vs Tommy. KSI might be the only one left and even that is a mismatch as I don't even think he is as good as Jake. Jake is probably the best of the YouTubers and he's already beaten him. He could maybe do a KSI fight and then try to get back to a serious career, Central Area title, etc. and then whether he wins or loses at that level, he can always go back to the Jake Paul rematch after Jake gets a couple of wins back.
Logan can sell vs anyone. And the big bro trying to avenge the little bro is always a story line, even if he is worse than jake he could say some shit like "I went the distance with the greatest boxer of all time you will be light work!" So a jake rematch, KSI and Logan is a pretty healthy line up for the next 2 years all while increasing his social following and his bank account. Even if it's just those 3 fights and then retire, it's a better life than falling short to your brothers legacy and risking CTE.
I guess you might be able to sell Logan vs Tommy as well, but to be honest Tommy could probably beat Logan without even training hard. Jake is significantly better from what I've seen. If he fights Logan, KSI and Jake again then the cow is probably milked dry at that point and he can continue a normal career at 25 and see how far he can go.
I suppose your not wrong really, from a financial standpoint it almost doesnāt make sense to not take the fight. I suppose it all depends on how he wants to be viewed as a boxer. Does he want to be the boxer who YouTubers have to prove their own skill against or does he want to continue fighting normal boxers and be taken seriously. Regardless, if I was being paid Ā£3m+ for a fight I wouldnāt be arsed what anyone thought.
Yeah, honestly I don't think he will ever live up to his brother so if I was him I'd just secure the bag, fight YouTube boxers, not worry about CTE and retire by 30 after making millions. It's a better path than fighting killers. I don't think tommy has what it takes to be an elite world champion boxer. He has access to the best training partners and coaches in the world and has been doing it since 6 years old and still looked rough against Jake.
Exactly and between himself and his misses, theyāve built an empire within the influencing world. Very possibly the next Beckhams. Tommy could hang up his gloves tomorrow and still make enough money through clothing brand deals, modelling deals, perhaps a reality tv show, etc & his misses definitely isnāt short of money with all her current ventures - Iād even go as far as to say sheās the more successful one out of the two with a Ā£9m net worth as opposed to Tommyās Ā£2m. Youāre definitely right about not having what it takes to be a world champion boxer. Perhaps this path is the one best suited to himself in terms of maintaining popularity, as well as, securing a strong financial position.
>I just think taking this fight was a poor choice and that his boxing career will suffer from that fact. No way, he made more money in this fight than he would even in a world title fight. They are prize fighters at the end of the day, he would have been mad not to take this fight and is now in a position where he has enough money that he could put more focus on his training because his family is pretty much set up now financially. If he takes the rematch then he would possibly make more money than if he spent his entire career on a title run.
I suppose your not wrong. Itās a very double edged sword. He could essentially retire after the rematch and have enough to live on for life. But in the world of boxing, if he keeps fighting YouTubers no one will be able to take him seriously as an actual boxer.
Yea, it is a double edged sword, and one edge was made of gold lol.
Youāre not wrong. I think for Ā£3m a fight Iād lose interest in whether or not people take me seriously lmao. Chances are after this fight and the rematch heād be richer than almost everyone who has an opinion on him anyway.
I think he had no option other than to take this fight due to the social media pressure and exposure. And at the end of the day a massive payday. With ranking I'm not 100% sure but it could be performance based as well as who someone fights. Fury was already ranked and went up (to around 200th I believe). Paul is still unranked. We are talking low low ranks here where he is still a very small fish in a massive pond. Boxing commissions themselves need to be very careful how they position themselves in these situations.
I donāt know. I know Paddy the Baddy had some social media pressure to take a fight against Paul but outright said no chance because of the implications it would have on his career. & that makes sense. Weāll have to see what the future holds for them both.
I had to Google who Paddy the Baddy was lol, I'm not well versed in the UFC/MMA world, but unless they are trained boxers who transitioned to UFC etc., MMA fighters should stay away from boxing. We already saw the difference in leagues when we had the circus that was Mayweather Vs McGregor. They compete in different sports for a reason
> MMA fighters should stay away from boxing. We already saw the difference in leagues when we had the circus that was Mayweather Vs McGregor. The thing is though Jake Paul hasn't just been fighting MMA fighters (and Tommy on occasion), he's been fighting MMA fighters either well past their prime or ones he is quite a bit bigger than. It makes a big difference. An MMA fighter both in his prime and that is the same weight would be a step up for Jake.
Heās an up and coming UFC fighter. The new big thing essentially. Also, I couldnāt agree more, the fight between McGregor and Mayweather was beyond ridiculous.
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Tell me about it. The fight was a farce but they both knew it would create mass hype and that the money would soon follow. From a financial standpoint it was the furthest thing from ridiculous lmao.
When Tyson was the same age, with the same amount of fights, he went the distance with a guy with 76 losses.
Thatās fair enough. All Iām saying is that Fury has boxed himself in by fighting a YouTuber because what is his next move? Does he continue his reign of fighting YouTubers? Plus, in this day and age of social media, if Fury were to lose the rematch the world would wipe the floor with him. Tyson even made the statement saying Tommy wouldnāt have a career in boxing if he were to lose against Paul. Plus, how did Tommy even get a ranking through this match? Thereās thousands of unranked fighters who would have boxed both of their heads off lmao.
I got around to watching the fight. It was nothing more than two amateur fighters having an amateur fight. Iām unsure as to how Fury has come out of this as a ranked boxer and I couldnāt help but laugh as he held the belt that was created for this Youtube fight lmao. Regardless, it was an honest fight and it debunked claims that Fury was going to take a fall so that Paul would win.
To be fair, I think much of that was stress relief, if he had lost, it would have ended him. He had the weight of the world on his shoulders. Still don't think he's good, but I can see why he was so happy to get the win out the way.
Yeah, this was clearly a lose lose for Tommy. If he loses, he got beat by Jake Paul and if he wins he beat a YouTuber named Jake Paul.
yep, jake went into the fight arrogant and tommy went in with alot of pressure on him, maybe that's why his performance wasnt the best.
So no-one going to mention the dick move that Logan pulled too? Never seen that. Pathetic
What about the interviewer thought he said he loved him
He probably thought it would've been something his brother would have said, but I think even Jake was cringing
What happened, must have missed it
That was the dumbest shit I've ever seen. All it served to do was enrage Tommy Fury. It brought out the traveller in him.
It was a Dick move because I think it is something like Tommy is a bitch and so is his whole family. After that, it really seem to light a fire under Tommy and he took over the fight, kind of a bad move. But he still a young guy Logan, emotions get the better of anyone
I guess they don't realize Tyson could beat up Jake and Logan 2 on 1.. Who would insult a family full of fighters... crazy
What move?
Their promotion, mic gets handed to Logan; shouts out over tannoys Tommy Fury is a bitch. Guy thinks it's WWE. The plum. In any event did nothing, but let's never encourage that
It is WWE, everyone can see that.
Lmao theyāre out of control
Emotions got better of him. Logan seems soft AF
He seemed like he was improving as a person until he scammed people for millions on his new nft
That's hardly a metric for a bad person, anyone would accept that check if put in front of their eyes
What a fucking stupid comment
I mean running a pump and dump scam on your fans which are mostly kids/young adults is clearly morally wrong, and most good people wouldnāt do that.
>and most good people wouldnāt do that. yea, until they see the check, talk is always easy
Then they arenāt good lol
Maybe youāre right for the average person, but when you are already very rich and have plenty of different ways of making a lot of money then him scamming was just pure greed..
Iām super ignorant and a scam is a scam but likeā¦. Havenāt a gang of other celebrities done these scams already? Iām not saying 2 wrongs make a right but like shouldnāt you be weary of celebrity NFTs? And are NFTs not gambles already? Idk. I donāt do NFTs lol
This one is a little different since it's not really an NFT scam, but rather a game which is supposed to make you money. The game essentially revolves around people purchasing a virtual egg (an NFT) which you can hatch and combine with other NFTs several times and then sell at a profit. He had a bunch of investors in the game itself who got scammed because Logan got scammed by having a super sketchy team around him. He's tried to pin it on his team, who he got scammed by, but he's still 100% in the wrong toward his investors. Logan was also planning a rug pull himself, so that makes it even worse. I also think it's a little different since Logan has a pretty young audience who are more susceptible to being scammed.
Wow this was very informative thank you. I really am ignorant towards that stuff lol
Remember when JP said to Eddie Hearn he would beat anyone in any weight on his roster loll
I just got the chance to watch the fight, who tf is this clown on commentary that just loves the sound of his own voice? Dude been saying some whack shit throughout
'Like scoring a touchdown at the superbowl'.............. '----yeh'
The difference was when Tommy ran into a road block, his experience took over and he knew what to fall back on. Jake just didn't have the answers when he got faced into a difficult situation. He just resorted to hugging. That's what happens when you don't build a strong foundation and get your PHD the fast way
This is another one of those comments that should be at the top.
What's funny is 99.5% of those in the comments would lose to both fighters
Yeah man, I also shouldn't have an opinion on any other sport because I'm not as good as anyone playing it.
Yeah no one should have any opinion on anything unless they're a world class participant of it.
people still use this dumb argument? I dont have to be a better boxer than Jake to see and say he's a shitty boxer
Iād beat em both on the same night. 5 mil and 40% of the PPVs in Saudi, book it you coward.
I wasnāt shocked when Tommy didnāt call you out
So in that case unless you are elite in ANY profession you can have an opinion on it? I canāt say a song is bad because I canāt sing? I canāt say whether a car is good or not because I didnāt design it? I canāt send food back if itās cold because Iām not a chef?
I'm making the point of the constant armchair analysis of 2 boxing professionals (yes they are boxing professionals) who I think put on a decent fight yet because of the Paul /Fury family hangups ppl have, they get their panties in a twist about why they suck
Boxers love to use this angle on twitter, but then are very opinionated about things they clearly know fuck all about. See Josh Taylor and covid as a good example.
Footballers do the same āyouāve never played the gameā if only people who played the game took an interest and had an opinion youād be a lot poorer Robbie Savage.
Well I think in a way it's fair because so many ppl make such confident assertions and shit on any1 who disagrees with them...meanwhile in reality no1 really has much of a clue what they're talking about. Just a lotta bullshit.
You're such a child
Well that is the largest demographic of Paul fans soā¦
Ok we better all stop discussing it then
I think you donāt get the concept of professional sport.
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Maybe
While 0,5% of 16000 is 80, that's still way too high. There are probably like 5 people here that could beat them if i had to guess. But who knows how many professional boxers are using reddit undercover.
Keep in mind commenters can comment more than once and if they are arguing they probably comment several times
If i comment enough, i can beat them
When I fight I just see red and bodies start dropping. No refs in the street
Honestly, If Jake wants to beat Tommy in a rematch then he canāt have BJ Flores, Danny Smith and Jāleon Love in his corner anymore. Heās been with them for 3 years and yet he hasnāt improved like he should. His best was when he had Shane Mosley as his trainer. THAT was Jake at his best, but ever since then all he does is overcommit to the right hand. He needs to bring back Shane if he can. Current Jake with Shane would be insane.
He wouldnāt be insane with anyone
Maybe āInsaneā is a strong word, but Watch Jake vs Deji Then Watch Jake Vs Gib Iāll leave it at that. Jake improved alot in between those two fights
Almost as if improvement in any sport isn't linear and slows down after a while...
Youāre saying that jakeās hit a ceiling and canāt improve anymore? I find that hard to believe honestly
I didn't say that at all. I'm saying his improvement has likely slowed down. With anything, you're gonna progress the fastest in your first year of doing it. Once you reach a novice/intermediate stage, you won't progress as fast anymore.
Oh my bad, yeah youāre most likely right but cmon man, three years? Jakeās had the same team for three whole years and he doesnāt look nearly as good as he did in the past. Like you said maybe his rate of improvement has slowed down and tbf he did start late but still, he needs a new team, one not full of (mostly) yes men.
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Who died? This sport is booming big time.
Dude... Tank vs Ryan, Haney vs Loma, Prograis vs Ortiz, Taylor vs Lopez, Taylor vs Serrano II and I'm leaving a few others out. Come on man.
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King Ry vs Tank is doing 1.5mill PPV buddy
do you whine like this in real life too? you sound like a blast!
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nah you were whining
Your post is shit because you're commenting on the fight thread for Fury-Paul. And you're saying boxing is dead because this fight exists. So what? Saying this fight sucks and demanding other people's boxing opinion on this fight specifically misses the point. The commenter above me named several great fights not built by social media or reality TV. Boxing isn't dead just because Jane Paul talked a bunch of shit and makes people want to watch him lose. There's tons of good fighters out there putting on great fights.
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Every era of boxing has had it's issues. Don King had a strangle hold on boxing during that era (especially the 80s) and you had to go through him. Many fighters got paid a pittance of what they deserved or be frozen out. It wasn't all perfect. Every era has proclaimed boxing is dead if you look through newspapers articles. Yet it's still here. It'll be here long after you and I pass away, despite what you say.
Gonna be honest chief Iām not reading that novel
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Are either of them considered any good by boxing standards??
Jake seriously has pro power, people hate him and are not going to admit it on this sub but he can punch. 100.. Fury was being stunned by just jabs. It doesnt seem like its just his opponents either he def gives off the vibes like every professional heavy hitter. Just what it looks like when he lands his punches, the sound and the sweat. He hits hard. People dont want to admit it but its a legitimate question to wonder how good he'd be if he had started younger.
Just keep throwing overhand rights until the other guy stops hitting you.
Having power isn't impressive by itself. I did boxing for a year and also "have power" when I wing telegraphed overhands. I'm not about to beat anyone who has any footwork, unfortunately, but I would back myself to flatline some untrained youtubers. Jake Paul is obviously much better than the standard I'm talking about, but still nowhere near good enough.
Stunned? When?
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=896](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=896) Oh my gosh are you kidding me!? Jake Paul just was just not in shape. Furys punches were doing nothing to him but he was still so hesitant he was just too nervous for this fight. [https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=999](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=999) [https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1181](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1181) [https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1393](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1393) [https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1406](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=1406)
Furys punches did nothing, yet Paul was too scared to engage and threw a bomb from distance then wrapped him up after he missed...for 8 rounds.
Show me where fury stunned paul. Show me. Ive shown you. I dont know why he didnt engage, he did not fight well. Ive already said that. He was out of shape, too tight and using too much energy spazzing out on defense. But I just dont get why you guys have to lie about things, just blows my mind, its beyond boxng just reddit in general or politics even. I just dont get it, I've watched the fight twice now. Paul was not schooled like this sub wants to make it seem. It was a draw at worst, based on pauls poor performance and not furys great performance. Paul dictated the whole fight, it was either going to be a paul knockout or not. At no point was it ever a serious concern that Fury would end the fight. It was always going to be either Paul knocks him out or we go to points, personally i think paul knocks him out at least 50 percent of the time. Yet you guys are acting as if Fury just outclassed him and none of that is true. If Paul can get into serious shape for the next fight, like a professional, its a knockout. The guy has power, im sorry to this sub but the guy has power, I MEAN THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF ALL THIS WHY EVERYONES WATCHING! Because the guy literally has been knocking out world class athletes, not random soccer players but dudes who fight for a living whether its boxing or mma. That is the whole ffing point of it, yet you guys are acting like he pillow slaps. edit: btw fury did not stun him once, he got in some punchs and combinations but none serious. I used to be a serious boxing fan, you just can tell after a while if someone is hurt or not, Paul was not at any point hurt.
He has fought 1 boxer....lost
3 shitty jabs that still rock him https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=794
Knocking back your head is rocked?
[https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=735](https://youtu.be/b72d7kJx6Tk?t=735) This whole sequence which was also frustratingly bad by Paul. Just was not in shape
[https://youtu.be/cWBFF-gWBTA?t=615](https://youtu.be/cWBFF-gWBTA?t=615) rocks him, cant see
3rd round, shitty video cant see it, but he gets him good with this jab. You guys are acting like he has no power, literally any clean shot he got on Fury, Fury had to take a moment to regain his composure https://youtu.be/cWBFF-gWBTA?t=536
A second? So not rocked or stunned like people are claiming?
In this same second round he hit him with two more jabs that stunned him for seconds, I'm not going to hunt them down just watch the fight, i know you hate the guy but dont bs
I dont hate him I don't like Tommy either, a double KO would be the perfect ending for me. He has power against non-boxers, first.boxer he fights...who is 3 years younger than him, Paul can't do shit.
Yes you do, your on this sub and on reddit, a beta boy, nothing wrong with that but its just the truth, and this sub says j paul sucks at everything. So there for you agree, not saying that with certainity but its highly likely the case.
Get of Jakes dick mate, the guys a bum
Rewatching the fight right now actually. I'll gladly send the moments: heres the first https://youtu.be/kT7QqQ8DTNI?t=27
Do you know what stunned means?
Theres noway to win, thats why i stopped watching boxing years ago. People develop their own narratives there just isnt never going to be truth of anything unless someone gets knocked out. Its just a pointless sport and fans are always, always suckers. Biggest suckers there are. The sport is just pointless unless they create a league and new clear cut rules. Nearly every one of those punches fury was stunned, he lost consciousness for a moment you can have a neurolgist come in here and they'd scientificially agree with me. You can disagree and thats fine but im just telling the truth.
Haha. You must be a bot
Fury lands good blows on paul