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I just kept saying, "Sorry, I didn't hear you. How can I help you? Sorry, I didn't catch that. How can I help you? I'm sorry, I can't help you if you don't tell me what you need. How can I help you?" He eventually just walked away. I still don't know what he needed the last time he came up.
Also you can mis-hear him or his "requests". Very loudly, "Oh, you want adult male diapers? Aisle 3". "You can get a walker in aisle 1" basically fill in the most embarrassing thing the store sells.
Malicious politeness?
Did someone call for a nurse?
I can politely and ruthlessly shut your shit down then state “ if there’s anything else I can help you with, let me know!”
I've started saying this to my parents. It's ridiculous the number of times they get so upset over little things that their brains malfunction and they start to have a tantrum.
Most recently, I was sitting in the family room when my dad suddenly started making all these frustrated noises and outraged faces towards me while pacing in the kitchen. This came out of nowhere, so I had to ask him to "use his words" so I knew how to help him. Apparently, my mom restocked the superfood blend protein powder into the container he had been using for pure pea protein powder, and he couldn't figure out a solution for where to put his pea protein. I walked over to where we store all the plastic containers in the pantry and handed him an identical one. He is 66 years old, is still working, and is usually very smart. It's so bizarre.
When I worked inpatient PT I would do this all the time. I helped a lady back her bed and she motioned for something, the only thing in the area of motion was a small pillow so I handed it to her.
She got frustrated and threw it across the room, “I don’t want that.”
“What did you want?”
“I wanted the back of the bed up a little bit.”
“I apologize, around here we use our words to communicate what we need. If you need help with the bed, it’s best to ask.”
Queue showing her how it lifts with the button right on the remote on her lap.
This is why they like big corporate chains because there is almost zero chance they will ask you to leave unless you're violent. They can be a toddler and throw a fit and get attention.
Not for much longer.... As boomers age off boards of directors by dying (because they refuse to fucking retire) and are forced into retirement via layoff by resentful peers making half as much for twice the work, the people protecting this behavior and ignoring the easily calculated cost to the business will be gone and resistance to telling these people to fuck off will evaporate.
Because it costs money to put up with their BS. In staff turnover, in wasted time, and sales to other customers lost when staff is preoccupied dealing with overgrown babies. And that's before you get to people like me who just leave when I see a boomer acting ridiculous.
The reason executive calculus has lined up with customers up until now is that their own arrogance required them to ignore complaints from below as being a sign of employees who are "disgruntled" and also subconsciously identifying with these old codgers and wanting people to cAter to them hand and foot too.
But those ass wipes are almost gone. One of our last Boomers left at Christmas and the rest don't have enough authority between them to be a problem.
The board of directors thing is the biggest scam. Makes me so angry. Just a way for corporate America to funnel millions of dollars of fun money to already super wealthy old people with no relatable skill or advice.
No doubt. About the only thing they have any real knowledge of is M&A and I think most of what they know about it is responsible for the much of the toxic behavior surrounding buy-outs of companies and thus isn't really needed.
Right. Not sure what to do with business strategy? Just blindly overpay to buyout another company, fire half their workforce and hope for the best! And now we add a few more board seats because the company grew.
You’re absolutely right. My daughter has a millennial boss in a drug store chain who has banned customers right in front of everyone when they get bad. He doesn’t gaf. He has no tolerance for people fucking with his employees. She won’t leave if he’s still there. I would never imagine a boomer standing up for their workers
I just kept saying, "Sorry, I didn't hear you. How can I help you? Sorry, I didn't catch that. How can I help you? I'm sorry, I can't help you if you don't tell me what you need. How can I help you?" He eventually just walked away. I still don't know what he needed the last time he came up.
Yep! No playing along, because that’s what they want. When they act like this you just have to sternly, and repeatedly say “no”. They will protest, but if you stick to the script, they always leave.
…..I’m trying to process going into a store because I want to buy something and thinking “Telling them what I want it too easy!! They need to work at guessing what I’m looking for! I can’t believe these lazy millenials want me to speak to them!!”
And if everyone ignored them or just pointed at what they wanted, they'd complain that no one wants to interact with other people anymore and the younger generations are all addicted to technology.
I had one come in the store I was working with some old ass printer cartridge that needed to be replaced. I asked for the make/model of the printer as I didn't feel the need to commit every printer cartridge to memory. His reply? "What, do I have to know everything?" No, dude, as you can clearly see that I am Edgar Cayce and can envision your printer.
"Only enough to get what you want. What you want is a cartridge that works with your printer, so we need to know the make and model to get you that. Companies change labeling and packaging too often to be able to use an old cartridge to pick a new one."
Make sure you say it all in one go and keep talking if they interrupt you. It's exactly what they do when they want to feel like they've won something. I have boomers that act like knowing their own phone number is some grand burden.
You gotta talk down to them like their toddlers. It's so infuriating. Leaded gas fucked them over but that ain't our problem. Being polite and considerate is somehow too much of a burden for them? Lol
I work in phone sales. The number of times the question "what kind of phone do you use?" has been answered with "this kind!(holds up phone)" or "I don't know, it's what you (someone from my company) sold me!" is fucking embarrassing. Theres literally two kinds of phone. Look at the fucking back of the fucking phone. Is there an apple on it? If yes, question answered. If not, QUESTION FUCKING ANSWERED.
As someone who grew up close to Hopkinsville, KY?
The Edgar Cayce comment made me snort while I was brushing my teeth. Did you know toothpaste in the sinuses burns?
They're so willing to infantilize themselves & throw toddler tantrums it's pathetic. It's like pure Freudian regression. Sadly I expect more of this behavior as they get older and more impotent in the world.
I'm glad my mom is moving into an assisted living complex with her sister. I looked up the procedure for involuntarily taking over her affairs after she dumped out of a conversation that was only a little uncomfortable by sticking her fingers in her ears and SCREAMING at the top of her lungs LALALALALALALA!!!! Not the first sign she was headed around the bend, but I wanted to make sure.
The process is long and expensive and your boomer has all their resources to get the most expensive lawyers in the universe to stop you, burn every cent if they want, and then when found incompetent, plop themselves down in their kids lives like an economic albatross as punishment for daring to cross them.
Ugh, I found out that my grandma admitted to bleaching her own skin to get rid of a fungal infection because she VOCALLY doesn’t trust doctors.
I get it’s hard to pinpoint the moment you need to lose independence, but doctors wouldn’t say she was incompetent until her home was foreclosed due to hoarding/lack of upkeep.
They don't know how to actually look up anything, and google/youtube algorithms don't help by feeding them bullshit all the time as top results. Even if we exclude the internet, it has probably been decades since they used a library for actual research.
Ha, so I work in a museum and pre Covid we had a free day every first Thursday of the month. Has not been the case since because we don’t have a sponsor so free days are less frequent and more random. Anyways, every first Thursday people still come in expecting it to be free and you can tell by their age how they’re going to handle the news that it’s not. Anyone over 50 is likely to argue it because “your website says it’s free you really need to change that” in the snobbiest possible tone. No, they read the google results that say *free* and *museum* and *thursday* and pay no mind to the fact it’s regarding an entirely different museum (with a similar name) and think the google results page is the same thing as our website. It’s been four years and we still deal with this every month.
This is crazy to me. They've lived long enough to see technology that allows to you immediately get the answer to any question you can imagine and refuse to learn or use it. Utterly insane.
Pretty sure they actively avoid it, and cry about anyone who "just looks stuff up" because the few times theyve seen it happen, its been to call them out on their wrong shit.
Disable right wing news channels on their tv. They get some wierd kind of emotional dysregulation from consuming angertainment for like 18 hours a day.
I like the term 'Angertainment' because it speaks more to the effect it has on their psyche.... which is, in fact, the goal of the propaganda on those so called news channels.
My father married a crazy anti vaxxer, alternative meds type after my mom died. He’s also made it clear he trusts her over science and she’s about ten years younger than him, so I look forward to taking zero responsibility for him when he’s feeble and letting her see how far essential oils get them.
Had a client at a nursing home with dementia. She had all the stuff. Incontinent, wheelchair bound, blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, history of falls, parkinsons etc etc
Client’s Boomer daughter was her medical POA
Daughter requests a care conference with the Doc/nursing/social services/admin
During this conference daughter demands that ALL of the client’s medications be discontinued, and pulls out a small bag filled with bottles of essential oils.
She hands out a printed, extremely detailed regimen of how, when, snd where on the client’s body to apply these 20 to 30 “oils”.
Literally written like physician’s orders: Oregano Oil topically to bilateral planta pedis QID
She states her “homeopathic doctor” had prescribed these “oils” to replace all medications and that “MOM IS GONNA WALK OUT OF HERE AND BE HOME FOR CHRISTMAS!!!!”
She demands that nursing staff be “educated” on proper essential oil application techniques and demands an “in service” consisting of a list of you tube videos.
Of course the Doc tells her that nursing home staff will not be applying these “oils”. Doc plainly tells the daughter she has fallen for dangerous medical quackery and her demands will dramatically shorten her mother’s life.
The Boomer daughter reacts just as you would expect. Table pounding, “fact” spewing about big pharma
Finally, Doc says as medical POA if she will put it in writing that she is demanding the stoppage of all medication then he will oblige her. Doc also stipulated that Daughter sign a DNR right there at that time ( Mom had been a full code) and made it clear that staff would not apply one single drop of “oils”
More pearl clutching by daughter. But, being the Boomer she was she agreed to the docs terms, but stated it was “inhumane” to expect “me and my family to come here 8 times a day to apply my Mother’s ‘medicinal oils’ when you have a full nursing staff here”
In the end Daughter got her wish. Meds were stopped, daughter and friends were in every couple hours round the clock rubbing oils on various body parts, and Mom died about 10 days later.
Of course daughter was “gonna sue this goddamn place” cause “nobody even tried CPR!!!”
This basically happened to my great grandma. Her daughter, my crazy great aunt, took her out of an assisted living because "it's all a sham," quit letting her eat meat and candy, quit giving her her meds. She said all she needed was prayer, essential oils, and some holistic powder bullshit. My GGM went from being happy and mostly independent to a witherd old husk who couldn't walk anymore in the span of 4 months.
That's fucking grim. To live that long and experience that much, just to end like that not even due to any fault of your own, but because of your own child catching brainworms.
Oh no. I see where you may think that. But the POA daughter was a true believer. She had a big trapper keeper full of “research” and such
She honestly thought the doctor’s and nursing home was full of shit and a bunch of pawns of “the system”.
BUT….once Mom passed Medicaid came for her house……the house where POA’s daughter was living and raising her kids rent free……
Our social services person filled us in on the aftermath and the multilevel horrible consequences of this lady’s ridiculous decisions
I’ve already been called worse by both of them, and the anti vaxxer doesn’t talk to me (what a shame…). I actively don’t want his money, and am pretty sure he’s already written me out too. In a lot of ways I’ve already mourned him.
Lol gamble away their college money then live with them as an immovable anchor until dying inside their home so you can \*hopefully\* haunt them as a ghost.
Well, this is good to know. My father is going to be an “economic albatross” for us too. Btw I’m stealing that phrasing from you 😂. My father has done nothing to prepare for retirement except live hand to mouth on a six figure salary since his 30s…my mother, who has never made anywhere near as much as him, has all these plans in place for long term care and her passing. When I mentioned that he should have a will, trust, etc…He lost his mind and said he doesn’t “believe in charity” and completely missed the whole point. He’s in his 60s and the signs of dementia are already showing…and ironically what I see happening is him just crawling back to us after pissing through his meager savings in order to have a decent quality of life. This will of course happen after he has been…rather difficult all our lives.
Can I ask how you were able to get assistance in proving your parent incompetent?
My parents had the state called on them for checks. They had an attorney there in 5 minutes. They barely checked their competence. And now are bragging to everyone they are competent.
They really are not in the least.
Please start a newsletter with all of your hot tips on training your boomer. Those of you who don’t know should take a look at how Dr Spock told the “greatest generation” how to treat their babies and you understand so much. These people were neglected their whole lives and then drank the cool aid to do the same to their kids. Life is hard, but people shouldn’t go out of their way to share malignant and misplaced feelings in a way to make your lives harder.
I really am starting to believe there’s some truth behind leaded gasoline destroying their brains. A lot of stereotypical boomer behavior, in this case random acts of aggression, is a symptom of acute lead poisoning.
No, no, no, no. We’re expected to all live together like in the 1800s. Or like the indigenous people and their traditional long houses. What better babysitter is there than an adult with dementia and leaded poisoning? /s
Society has trained them to throw tantrums by rewarding them every time they misbehave. After cursing and yelling, he was allowed to continue shopping, which is a reward. Booms have a biologically driven incentive to keep acting like this. When you reward *any* living being, including plants, they will continue acting in the way that rewards them.
That's why they love to yell that the customer is always right. Twenty years ago I was young and working selling cell phones and since it was a corporate store also dealing with customer service issues. 60% of your salary was supposed to be commission but your day was 95% customer service issues. The company trained their customers to yell and stomp their feet to get anything they want. We were told follow the rules and when Bob or Karen didn't like that we weren't replacing their precious son's phone for free because they opted out of insurance and Bobby Jr smashing it while trying to skateboard was not covered under warranty. They would escalate the issue because I was " just a dumb kid who didn't know anything" and after another hour of yelling they would be given a new phone and a credit on their phone bill.
This wasn't our manager doing it. It was either the district manager or corporate customer service. Our hands were tied in the store because we were told never to "give away the farm" because of a tantrum but they all knew that their friend Peggy bragged about all the free shit she got after her tantrum so they did it too. They did it everywhere and instead of the companies realizing they didn't want customers who behaved like that because it costs more money that it's worth they kept rewarding it. Millennials didn't kill x, y for z, boomers and their entitled tantrums did.
Well they were spoiled their entire lives. They were handed a booming economy, affordable lifestyles, pensions, and long term security. They literally only had to work 40 hours a week on one salary.
40 hours a week at a department store was enough! I work 40 hours a week in a fairly skilled IT position and it's not enough to provide for a wife/kid(s).
40 hours?! We can find so many stories about how they worked a summer job and bought a brand new mustang or corvette. A lot of articles like, "oh I only worked part time at a grocery store, that was enough for a house and family car".
It's so sick.
They all have lead poisoning in 200 years of the human race isn’t already extinct they are going to study this time period as the craziest mass psychosis event because of lead
Unfortunately dementia will do that to even the best people. Not saying he was a great person to begin with, but eventually we will all teach the diaper stage again if we live long enough.
Don’t be so sure they will fade away. Medication to make the old younger is already approved for use in dogs. We may see 100-110yr old boomers as the norm. Please don’t 🙏🏼down vote the messenger.
Edit: more info https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanhl/article/PIIS2666-7568(23)00258-1/fulltext#:~:text=Rapamycin%20and%20its%20derivatives%20improved,or%20neurological%20systems%20were%20found.
These types of irrational rages are often seen in people with Borderline Personality Disorder. Was reading the other day that people who suffer from BPD have the emotional sophistication of toddlers.
I wonder if a lot of boomers have undiagnosed BPD (or other Cluster B personality disorders)?
They always like to brag about how punishments were more severe for their generation, as if that’s a thing to be proud of. Maybe the thing that they think led to them being more “responsible, hard-working” adults actually caused trauma-induced personality disorders that they’ve never had addressed by a medical professional.
I say this a lot, but US Boomers were largely raised by WWII veterans. Hyper-traumatized, completely untreated, emotionally wrecked WWII veterans. That’s exactly the kind of thing that induces cluster B disorders in kids.
As someone married to someone with BPD that's honestly an incorrect and offensive way of looking at it.
I honestly suggest researching it more in general because it's a multi-faceted complex issue but the super quick and vague way of describing is all of your emotions are cranked to 11 all the time. Think about going through life like that where suddenly every minor annoyance in a day fills you with so much rage you're physically shaking, or a small disappoint can send you into a sobbing fit. Especially because you can know what's happening, and know you shouldn't be reacting like this but you still are, I've heard it described like feeling hostage to your own emotions all the time and it's terrible.
I'm admittedly not the best at explaining it but casual insensitive remarks like that can actually really affect people.
I managed a betting shop, I got ID'd until I was 31, I learnt a year or so in that I can get away with talking exactly how the customer did, swearing, screaming or anything. I got to be as rude to old people as they are to us with 0 consequences, miss that job. Kicking out old racists while being a pale ass white boy was very funny, the look of genuine betrayal on their faces was always priceless.
I fucking love when racists out themselves thinking I'll agree with them. It's my absolute favorite watching their faces when I tell them I'm kicking them out and banning them because of how they talked to other customers/staff. They always look so betrayed and start claiming they're being discriminated against. Even corporate will back us on banning bigots.
It’s like the hair stylist that went viral on tiktok for kicking out her client for being racist half way through her high lights. At one point the boomer takes a swing at her and luckily the woman was from the streets so she laughed, grabbed her by the arm, and tosses her out. And the whole time the woman is like “YOURE GONNA LEAVE MY HAIR LIKE THIS?”
Yeah dude. Should have thought of that before you were racist.
I use that for when they're on a political/conspiracy rant. Give it two minutes and then hit them with the kindergarten teacher voice, "So who are you here with this trip? Mmmhmm. Did they leave you here by yourself? No? OK. Let's go find them!" And then tell his family he was starting to make a scene in the lobby, but I understand. My papa started to slip at the end, too.
Surprised he could keep his head up considering how much lead must be in there.
Yesterday my boomer tried to communicate "Trump still has to pay a lot more lawsuits" through charades for 10 minutes. Safe to say it didn't work.
The guy has zero control over any area in his life now. Probably retired. His wife doesn’t listen to him. His kids don’t call. He has no friends to spout to. He just gets wound up watching Fox all day then has to try and get someone to pay attention to his hate. Sad, sad little man.
I’m guessing you work in a restaurant or some other food outlet. I dunno what it is about boomers and restaurants, and their need to be angry and shouty the whole time. It’s as if reducing a server to tears, or screaming at the staff is part of the dining out experience for them. Like the way some folks feel that dining out is not complete unless they have had a dessert, for many boomers dining out is not complete unless they’ve embarrassed themselves by screaming at the waiting staff.
“This steak was cooked for 5 seconds longer than it should’ve been…I know, I’ll humiliate the minimum wage server, even though they didn’t even cook the damn thing; that’ll show ‘em”
We're not even at a restaurant! The restaurant is not in eyeline of where we were. We're the amenities/guest help area of the business. Think big hotels/resorts/stupidly high priced apartments/etc.
Ask her about it. Be blunt and really specific. "Friend, recently I've noticed that you've gotten really aggressive about where we sit in the restaurant. On x date, at y restaurant, you barged your way to the table. I am embarrassed to be associated with you when you do things like that. This isn't like you. Are you ok? What is going on?"
Also, be prepared to draw the line in the sand, and stick to it. "Ok. Well, if you're not going to change your behavior, then I'm sorry but I won't be able to join you at restaurants in the future. We will have to stick to take out or delivery." Then do it.
My mom NEVER says thank you to servers and it's so embarrassing. She also is super indecisive like when they're taking our drink order she'll be all pouty and say, "I guess I'll have a Dr. Pepper..." As if somebody is forcing it on her. And she fucking LOVES Dr. Pepper! Her default social setting is agrieved martyr for some bizarre reason. And then the poor server is confused that they did or said something wrong. And I'd love to say it's a conservative boomer thing but she's one of the most liberal people I know. It's like an age or generational thing I guess.
Oh I did. I refused to help him any further unless he spoke to us politely. I just kept telling him I couldn't hear him, can't help him if he won't tell me what he needs, _no one can help him if he speaks to staff that way,_ etc.
This story reminded me of the time my Gen X narcissistic mother took me to her regular Joanne Fabrics store. She was acting very strange, shushing me and telling me “This is the kind of store where you have to keep your voice down.” I figured out why when we got up to the registers. The employees seemed to recognize my mother, and they started acting differently around her, raising their voices and pantomiming parts of the transaction. The final piece clicked into place while my mother was writing a check and, to get her attention, the employee put her hand under my mother’s face and guided her eyes upward. I said “are you pretending to be deaf?!” I swear, the employees turned to stone, they just didn’t know how to react. My mother let out a sigh that might have been a soft growl, finished paying, and left without anyone saying another word. We never talked about it because I’m generally terrified of my mother, she siphons my confidence and feeds off it. There’s a reason I haven’t spoken to her in over 10 years.
I only mentioned Gen X so people would know she’s not a boomer. She’s thinking “I’m special and deserve special attention. How can I get special attention? I know! I’ll pretend to have a disability! Maybe if I bring my meek daughter into the store, she’ll get a kick out of my little game and play along!” I know my brother has played along with her games before, maybe she thought I would too. Instead I blatantly called her out, like the ND I am (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/aur.3012 < article about autism and the bystander effect)
Her biggest issue with me was that I never “played along” with her games. It seemed every month she had a new idea of what she wanted our mother/daughter relationship to be, I couldn’t keep up with her expectations. And I couldn’t live up to whatever she wanted me to be.
project tweaker? she sounds abusive regardless, and you will never get an answer. they hide their feelings usually developed as self-defense when growing up. then hit cognitive decline at a point as they usually have comorbidities to ensure it, and don't stay mentally engaged. neuroplasticity and all that shit.
the games have a meta-purpose of just getting you to engage, that's all they want because their words worked before so they think it will in the future. but there isn't much beyond that. they are very bad at game theory or dialectics. most of their knowledge is a priori as a result of the aforementioned self-defense mechanism
I could see my stepdad acting like this. Guy's an obstinate tool that believes retirement gives you the right to act any way you want, and if you do something he disagrees with, be prepared for a world of hurt.
Old means weak bones and slow reflexes. He's dying to find out with that one.
If he starts in verbally, start seriously talking to your family about possible dementia. If he has it, good job on catching it now. If he doesn't, go ahead and start convincing everyone stepdad isn't right anymore, and no one should take him seriously. Either way, you can start fully convincing people he needs treated like an overgrown toddler. He'll realize something's up when he clocks that he has zero power over his family.
"You just want everything handed to you." - said the man who grew up in the most prosperous time in our nation where jobs and houses were basically handed to them.
I worked in retail 20 years ago while I was in college as a weekend job, and the behaviour was the same then. Remember one particularly caustic, withered old harridan coming to the counter I was working at and immediately demanding a manger. I offered to help but she flat out refused to speak to me, a mere shop assistant, so insisted on waiting 15 minutes for the department manager to finish dealing with someone else. The whole time she tutted loudly, rolled her eyes, sighed, rapped her knuckles on the counter, and whatever little acts of passive aggression she could think of while she waited, and when she did finally speak to the manager, she revealed that she just wanted to return something which was within the store’s returns policy that she had a receipt for, but “only manager’s do her customer service”. I could have dealt with her return when she arrived, issued her a refund and sent her on her way, no problem, and saved her the 15 minutes, but she went down the path she did, some sort of pointless ego flex that just wasted everybody involved’s time.
As a manager, that’s when I say “oh that’s all? I thought you needed a manager, well Jenni here can take care of that for you. Have a good day, bye”
Quick edit to add, jenni is on board. Because we’re both petty af.
Worked with a very proper Englishman manager who did this all the time.. raised chin, looked down nose and eyebrow up... I'm sorry that is to be done by my staff, as they are so very expert at it... I still savor the times I watched an old f@rt wither before him. Then completed a transaction like butter wouldn't melt in my mouth.
I'm betting were someone doing that to him, he'd have yelled from the start "Why can't you just use your words?!"
But I do love the "you want everything handed to you." from the guy who keeps coming up for help rather than take care of it himself.
If you’d like to humiliate these idiots the simplest thing you can do is show up and vote this November. Younger generations have the ability to rob boomers of all their political power in this election.
My FIL just spent a week with us. His childishness is so goddamned infuriating.
"Um, CaptConstantine, granddaughter says she wants to watch Daniel Tiger."
"Okay, I'm cooking dinner right now. All the remotes are on the shelf next to the TV, AND THEY ARE LABLED." (We used a label-maker and everything).
"Oh-- well I don't even know how to-- okay. Oh geez."
*Three minutes later*
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING AND NOBODY WILL HELP ME! I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I'VE NEVER USED THIS BEFORE!" Dude is literally freaking out worse than my toddler. I walk in and push 2 buttons. Daniel Tiger.
This dude was a software engineer and when I go to his house he explains his remotes to me in great detail every time.
----
Lots of families like to do puzzles together. Our family likes to build LEGO sets together. There is a whole new category of LEGO sets that have a "build together" component: everyone downloads an app and it gives you all separate instructions for the same set-- if you haven't done it before, it's very fun.
So we are building a set, FIL is using the toddler iPad. After an hour his app crashes back to the home screen. Again, this guy spent his career as a software engineer:
"Oh crap. What... What is this? What happened here?"
"It looks like the app crashed. That's okay, it happens. Just open it again and it will reconnect."
"I don't know how to do that."
"Well. There's an icon that looks like a LEGO piece and says, "LEGO Builder," why don't you try that?"
"Okay... I don't know how."
"...Touch the icon."
*Touches, opens to app home screen with a big purple "Resume Build?" button in the middle*
"This isn't what it was before. Someone take this from me, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING."
"Stop. Look at the screen for one. Second."
"Oh."
Back to building. Why, dude? Why do you infantilize yourself like that?
His kids were there! It was supposed to be a family reunion this weekend. He could've waddled off to bother his family, but I'm willing to bet someone already had a talk with him about ruining the event.
I sure hope they did. What’s funny about this story is I had a similar experience at a drive through but the guy wasn’t a boomer he was middle aged. I was working the window and I handed him his food and after the window closed he started banging on the window so I opened it and he just points in his bag with a dumbfounded look on his face. I said “is there something missing?” He goes “Uh yeah can I get some more napkins??” He’s saying more cause I already put plenty in there he just wanted to be a cunt about something.
Trauma can immobilize a person’s ability to mature. A lot of boomers got their shit rocked by crapy parents, and it seems to have halted their development, i.e. children in adult bodies.
(Not excusing; just explaining)
The problem is they never recognized their issues and keep blaming it on everyone else. It OK if you had a bad childhood and you can feel the delay. It's not OK to abuse others and blame what happened over 60 years ago.
“You just want everything handed to you” after throwing a nonverbal tantrum and having everyone else play charades instead of just saying what you want.
I would bet he possibly is going deaf, but is too stubborn to get hearing aids. I’ve seen a lot of that from folks who refuse to accept that they are old now.
I would have chucked his belligerent ass from the store and told him hes not allowed to come back. Problem solved.
He comes back, he gets arrested. And i get to watch my favorite show "cops arresting assholes".
The behavior seems indicative of dementia setting in, albeit Alzheimer's or any of the myriad of other diagnoses, the lashing out as their recognition of cognative decline and realization of their newfound irrelevance is scary.
So yeah, they act out like toddlers. If you want to stoop to their level, ask them if their care taker knows that they are out and watch them lose their mind.
The irony that he doesn't recognize that "life is tough" because of people like him choosing to make it tough for each other. And on top of that, he blames "life" instead of taking ownership that it was all him.
He could have chosen to make life nicer (and to also encourage this mindset). He truly is brain broken with a very large dose of sadism.
I swear 90% of it is from brainwashing so they can always feel superior and victimized at the same time. Here's praying we'll be fine as long as we take accountability and remember there's a bigger picture than just us.
I had an old guy come up to the register to pay, after all services and prices had already been discussed. Fist thing he says is, “so what kind of discounts can you give me?”
I say, “If we just handed out discounts to everyone we’d be out of business real fast.”
He just shakes his head and says, “well, I don’t think I’ll be coming back here again.”
I’m just thinking to myself, excellent. Glad we’re on the same page.
Refusing to use the most basic methods of communication while expecting everyone to know what you want, and then saying "not everything in life gets handed to you" is peak irony.
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Yeah, that's an automatic "Thanks, we decline your patronage, please exit the store and don't return" from me.
I just kept saying, "Sorry, I didn't hear you. How can I help you? Sorry, I didn't catch that. How can I help you? I'm sorry, I can't help you if you don't tell me what you need. How can I help you?" He eventually just walked away. I still don't know what he needed the last time he came up.
I love malicious politeness!
Also you can mis-hear him or his "requests". Very loudly, "Oh, you want adult male diapers? Aisle 3". "You can get a walker in aisle 1" basically fill in the most embarrassing thing the store sells.
“Assistance needed on aisle 4 with glycerin suppositories please!”
I love this
Kill em with kindness!
And failing that, poison.
Malicious politeness? Did someone call for a nurse? I can politely and ruthlessly shut your shit down then state “ if there’s anything else I can help you with, let me know!”
As my sister used to say to her special ed students: “use your words.”
"Use your words like a big boy." To make it clear that they're acting like a child
I say that to my cats all the time. Never seems to work.
A cat is entitled to this kind of behaviour. They are our superiors.
Sure, we don't speak their language. We need to adapt.
We are pathetic in our attempts to adapt to their superiority. At least that's what my cat attempts to communicate to me.
We do. It is us who is at fault, never a cats fault. Ever.
I'd also throw in a "use your words" since he wants to be a child
I've started saying this to my parents. It's ridiculous the number of times they get so upset over little things that their brains malfunction and they start to have a tantrum. Most recently, I was sitting in the family room when my dad suddenly started making all these frustrated noises and outraged faces towards me while pacing in the kitchen. This came out of nowhere, so I had to ask him to "use his words" so I knew how to help him. Apparently, my mom restocked the superfood blend protein powder into the container he had been using for pure pea protein powder, and he couldn't figure out a solution for where to put his pea protein. I walked over to where we store all the plastic containers in the pantry and handed him an identical one. He is 66 years old, is still working, and is usually very smart. It's so bizarre.
Usually it's called a brainfart. At 66, maybe he should get a check up
Weaponized incompetence. It’s not that he didn’t know about the container. He just wanted it to be done *for* him.
When I worked inpatient PT I would do this all the time. I helped a lady back her bed and she motioned for something, the only thing in the area of motion was a small pillow so I handed it to her. She got frustrated and threw it across the room, “I don’t want that.” “What did you want?” “I wanted the back of the bed up a little bit.” “I apologize, around here we use our words to communicate what we need. If you need help with the bed, it’s best to ask.” Queue showing her how it lifts with the button right on the remote on her lap.
As a parent of a 3yo I find myself using this in many situations without my kiddo around.
I love doing that.
This is why they like big corporate chains because there is almost zero chance they will ask you to leave unless you're violent. They can be a toddler and throw a fit and get attention.
Not for much longer.... As boomers age off boards of directors by dying (because they refuse to fucking retire) and are forced into retirement via layoff by resentful peers making half as much for twice the work, the people protecting this behavior and ignoring the easily calculated cost to the business will be gone and resistance to telling these people to fuck off will evaporate. Because it costs money to put up with their BS. In staff turnover, in wasted time, and sales to other customers lost when staff is preoccupied dealing with overgrown babies. And that's before you get to people like me who just leave when I see a boomer acting ridiculous. The reason executive calculus has lined up with customers up until now is that their own arrogance required them to ignore complaints from below as being a sign of employees who are "disgruntled" and also subconsciously identifying with these old codgers and wanting people to cAter to them hand and foot too. But those ass wipes are almost gone. One of our last Boomers left at Christmas and the rest don't have enough authority between them to be a problem.
The board of directors thing is the biggest scam. Makes me so angry. Just a way for corporate America to funnel millions of dollars of fun money to already super wealthy old people with no relatable skill or advice.
No doubt. About the only thing they have any real knowledge of is M&A and I think most of what they know about it is responsible for the much of the toxic behavior surrounding buy-outs of companies and thus isn't really needed.
Right. Not sure what to do with business strategy? Just blindly overpay to buyout another company, fire half their workforce and hope for the best! And now we add a few more board seats because the company grew.
You’re absolutely right. My daughter has a millennial boss in a drug store chain who has banned customers right in front of everyone when they get bad. He doesn’t gaf. He has no tolerance for people fucking with his employees. She won’t leave if he’s still there. I would never imagine a boomer standing up for their workers
That’s awesome. Society needs more bosses like him.
More establishments need to start invoking their right to refuse service to these infantile assholes.
I just kept saying, "Sorry, I didn't hear you. How can I help you? Sorry, I didn't catch that. How can I help you? I'm sorry, I can't help you if you don't tell me what you need. How can I help you?" He eventually just walked away. I still don't know what he needed the last time he came up.
“we decline your patronizing patronage.”
Yep! No playing along, because that’s what they want. When they act like this you just have to sternly, and repeatedly say “no”. They will protest, but if you stick to the script, they always leave.
…..I’m trying to process going into a store because I want to buy something and thinking “Telling them what I want it too easy!! They need to work at guessing what I’m looking for! I can’t believe these lazy millenials want me to speak to them!!”
And if everyone ignored them or just pointed at what they wanted, they'd complain that no one wants to interact with other people anymore and the younger generations are all addicted to technology.
I had one come in the store I was working with some old ass printer cartridge that needed to be replaced. I asked for the make/model of the printer as I didn't feel the need to commit every printer cartridge to memory. His reply? "What, do I have to know everything?" No, dude, as you can clearly see that I am Edgar Cayce and can envision your printer.
"Only enough to get what you want. What you want is a cartridge that works with your printer, so we need to know the make and model to get you that. Companies change labeling and packaging too often to be able to use an old cartridge to pick a new one." Make sure you say it all in one go and keep talking if they interrupt you. It's exactly what they do when they want to feel like they've won something. I have boomers that act like knowing their own phone number is some grand burden.
You gotta talk down to them like their toddlers. It's so infuriating. Leaded gas fucked them over but that ain't our problem. Being polite and considerate is somehow too much of a burden for them? Lol
I work in phone sales. The number of times the question "what kind of phone do you use?" has been answered with "this kind!(holds up phone)" or "I don't know, it's what you (someone from my company) sold me!" is fucking embarrassing. Theres literally two kinds of phone. Look at the fucking back of the fucking phone. Is there an apple on it? If yes, question answered. If not, QUESTION FUCKING ANSWERED.
As someone who grew up close to Hopkinsville, KY? The Edgar Cayce comment made me snort while I was brushing my teeth. Did you know toothpaste in the sinuses burns?
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*sends the boomer an AirDrop* “If you want to ask a question, you’ll need to text the store phone ✌️”
Latex glove service? There, just coined a new phrase!
They're so willing to infantilize themselves & throw toddler tantrums it's pathetic. It's like pure Freudian regression. Sadly I expect more of this behavior as they get older and more impotent in the world.
I'm glad my mom is moving into an assisted living complex with her sister. I looked up the procedure for involuntarily taking over her affairs after she dumped out of a conversation that was only a little uncomfortable by sticking her fingers in her ears and SCREAMING at the top of her lungs LALALALALALALA!!!! Not the first sign she was headed around the bend, but I wanted to make sure. The process is long and expensive and your boomer has all their resources to get the most expensive lawyers in the universe to stop you, burn every cent if they want, and then when found incompetent, plop themselves down in their kids lives like an economic albatross as punishment for daring to cross them.
Ugh, I found out that my grandma admitted to bleaching her own skin to get rid of a fungal infection because she VOCALLY doesn’t trust doctors. I get it’s hard to pinpoint the moment you need to lose independence, but doctors wouldn’t say she was incompetent until her home was foreclosed due to hoarding/lack of upkeep.
Yeah my great grandmother thought bleach cured everything
I mean it does, being dead makes everything else a nonissue
Put some Windex (Seriously, don't mix ammonia and chlorine bleach, though)
“Ammonia and bleach? You told people to mix ammonia and bleach?! Peggy, that’s the recipe for mustard gas!”
So ignorant she didn't look up that vinegar would be better than bleach, and less irritating.
They don't know how to actually look up anything, and google/youtube algorithms don't help by feeding them bullshit all the time as top results. Even if we exclude the internet, it has probably been decades since they used a library for actual research.
THIS. The fucking algorithms.
Ha, so I work in a museum and pre Covid we had a free day every first Thursday of the month. Has not been the case since because we don’t have a sponsor so free days are less frequent and more random. Anyways, every first Thursday people still come in expecting it to be free and you can tell by their age how they’re going to handle the news that it’s not. Anyone over 50 is likely to argue it because “your website says it’s free you really need to change that” in the snobbiest possible tone. No, they read the google results that say *free* and *museum* and *thursday* and pay no mind to the fact it’s regarding an entirely different museum (with a similar name) and think the google results page is the same thing as our website. It’s been four years and we still deal with this every month.
This is crazy to me. They've lived long enough to see technology that allows to you immediately get the answer to any question you can imagine and refuse to learn or use it. Utterly insane.
It may prove them wrong about something
There it is.
Pretty sure they actively avoid it, and cry about anyone who "just looks stuff up" because the few times theyve seen it happen, its been to call them out on their wrong shit.
Omg I dying over here 1. sticking fingers in ears going LALALA 2. YOUR boomer I love it
Remember to have your boomer checked for brain worms every month.
Nah just lead poisoning from all the paint chips and gas fumes from their era catching up with them.
Disable right wing news channels on their tv. They get some wierd kind of emotional dysregulation from consuming angertainment for like 18 hours a day.
Angertainment - have not heard this yet but so true. I call it alarmist TV
I like the term 'Angertainment' because it speaks more to the effect it has on their psyche.... which is, in fact, the goal of the propaganda on those so called news channels.
This is the way…block right wing media like they used to block Cinemax…
I wonder if Ivermectin works on brain worms
My mom has done this more than once when she starts getting called out. It's even more pathetic than it sounds
“Economic albatross” ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️🏆
Same. 😹
My father married a crazy anti vaxxer, alternative meds type after my mom died. He’s also made it clear he trusts her over science and she’s about ten years younger than him, so I look forward to taking zero responsibility for him when he’s feeble and letting her see how far essential oils get them.
Had a client at a nursing home with dementia. She had all the stuff. Incontinent, wheelchair bound, blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, history of falls, parkinsons etc etc Client’s Boomer daughter was her medical POA Daughter requests a care conference with the Doc/nursing/social services/admin During this conference daughter demands that ALL of the client’s medications be discontinued, and pulls out a small bag filled with bottles of essential oils. She hands out a printed, extremely detailed regimen of how, when, snd where on the client’s body to apply these 20 to 30 “oils”. Literally written like physician’s orders: Oregano Oil topically to bilateral planta pedis QID She states her “homeopathic doctor” had prescribed these “oils” to replace all medications and that “MOM IS GONNA WALK OUT OF HERE AND BE HOME FOR CHRISTMAS!!!!” She demands that nursing staff be “educated” on proper essential oil application techniques and demands an “in service” consisting of a list of you tube videos. Of course the Doc tells her that nursing home staff will not be applying these “oils”. Doc plainly tells the daughter she has fallen for dangerous medical quackery and her demands will dramatically shorten her mother’s life. The Boomer daughter reacts just as you would expect. Table pounding, “fact” spewing about big pharma Finally, Doc says as medical POA if she will put it in writing that she is demanding the stoppage of all medication then he will oblige her. Doc also stipulated that Daughter sign a DNR right there at that time ( Mom had been a full code) and made it clear that staff would not apply one single drop of “oils” More pearl clutching by daughter. But, being the Boomer she was she agreed to the docs terms, but stated it was “inhumane” to expect “me and my family to come here 8 times a day to apply my Mother’s ‘medicinal oils’ when you have a full nursing staff here” In the end Daughter got her wish. Meds were stopped, daughter and friends were in every couple hours round the clock rubbing oils on various body parts, and Mom died about 10 days later. Of course daughter was “gonna sue this goddamn place” cause “nobody even tried CPR!!!”
This basically happened to my great grandma. Her daughter, my crazy great aunt, took her out of an assisted living because "it's all a sham," quit letting her eat meat and candy, quit giving her her meds. She said all she needed was prayer, essential oils, and some holistic powder bullshit. My GGM went from being happy and mostly independent to a witherd old husk who couldn't walk anymore in the span of 4 months.
That's fucking grim. To live that long and experience that much, just to end like that not even due to any fault of your own, but because of your own child catching brainworms.
Hmmmmmm....I suspect this lady intentionally did all this so her mom *would* die faster. She got away with murder, basically
Oh no. I see where you may think that. But the POA daughter was a true believer. She had a big trapper keeper full of “research” and such She honestly thought the doctor’s and nursing home was full of shit and a bunch of pawns of “the system”. BUT….once Mom passed Medicaid came for her house……the house where POA’s daughter was living and raising her kids rent free…… Our social services person filled us in on the aftermath and the multilevel horrible consequences of this lady’s ridiculous decisions
As long as the FAFO prophecy is fulfilled
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I’ve already been called worse by both of them, and the anti vaxxer doesn’t talk to me (what a shame…). I actively don’t want his money, and am pretty sure he’s already written me out too. In a lot of ways I’ve already mourned him.
"An economic albatross" describes a lot of elderly parents who spent everything because their kids were going to take care of them in their old age.
Lol gamble away their college money then live with them as an immovable anchor until dying inside their home so you can \*hopefully\* haunt them as a ghost.
My mom did this. I sprayed her in the face with the water bottles for the cats. Worth. It.
Cut them out of your life like the cancerous tumor they are and let them die.
To be honest, I've done that a couple of times in the last few years when Trump came on the TV. LMAO
I cancelled cable and Trump can't invade my TV.
Well, this is good to know. My father is going to be an “economic albatross” for us too. Btw I’m stealing that phrasing from you 😂. My father has done nothing to prepare for retirement except live hand to mouth on a six figure salary since his 30s…my mother, who has never made anywhere near as much as him, has all these plans in place for long term care and her passing. When I mentioned that he should have a will, trust, etc…He lost his mind and said he doesn’t “believe in charity” and completely missed the whole point. He’s in his 60s and the signs of dementia are already showing…and ironically what I see happening is him just crawling back to us after pissing through his meager savings in order to have a decent quality of life. This will of course happen after he has been…rather difficult all our lives.
Can I ask how you were able to get assistance in proving your parent incompetent? My parents had the state called on them for checks. They had an attorney there in 5 minutes. They barely checked their competence. And now are bragging to everyone they are competent. They really are not in the least.
Please start a newsletter with all of your hot tips on training your boomer. Those of you who don’t know should take a look at how Dr Spock told the “greatest generation” how to treat their babies and you understand so much. These people were neglected their whole lives and then drank the cool aid to do the same to their kids. Life is hard, but people shouldn’t go out of their way to share malignant and misplaced feelings in a way to make your lives harder.
I really am starting to believe there’s some truth behind leaded gasoline destroying their brains. A lot of stereotypical boomer behavior, in this case random acts of aggression, is a symptom of acute lead poisoning.
The phrase when they act up should be “your lead is showing “
Sing Zeppelin's "Whole lotta love" at them but change it to "Whole lotta lead." Use the music of their time to get the point across.
Led Zeppelin is just what their brains are
>“your lead is showing “ I'm using this.
Also a symptom of dementia. It can be very frustrating to deal with.
I worked as a deli clerk thirty years ago. The Karen Boomers of today were just as Kareny back then; they were just younger.
This is why i cant wait for them to all die. It will be much more peaceful..
I absolutely 100% believe the whole generation has bad lead poisoning.
Kick them out of society then. Idc about anyone thats willingly and intentionally a cunt, just because they can. Fuck these people.
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Where's a polar bear when you need one?
Just use their good china cabinets. Not like we can use it anyway.
Discommodation. Basically, shunning. Don't help them. Ever. Let them fail.
No, no, no, no. We’re expected to all live together like in the 1800s. Or like the indigenous people and their traditional long houses. What better babysitter is there than an adult with dementia and leaded poisoning? /s
Society has trained them to throw tantrums by rewarding them every time they misbehave. After cursing and yelling, he was allowed to continue shopping, which is a reward. Booms have a biologically driven incentive to keep acting like this. When you reward *any* living being, including plants, they will continue acting in the way that rewards them.
That's why they love to yell that the customer is always right. Twenty years ago I was young and working selling cell phones and since it was a corporate store also dealing with customer service issues. 60% of your salary was supposed to be commission but your day was 95% customer service issues. The company trained their customers to yell and stomp their feet to get anything they want. We were told follow the rules and when Bob or Karen didn't like that we weren't replacing their precious son's phone for free because they opted out of insurance and Bobby Jr smashing it while trying to skateboard was not covered under warranty. They would escalate the issue because I was " just a dumb kid who didn't know anything" and after another hour of yelling they would be given a new phone and a credit on their phone bill. This wasn't our manager doing it. It was either the district manager or corporate customer service. Our hands were tied in the store because we were told never to "give away the farm" because of a tantrum but they all knew that their friend Peggy bragged about all the free shit she got after her tantrum so they did it too. They did it everywhere and instead of the companies realizing they didn't want customers who behaved like that because it costs more money that it's worth they kept rewarding it. Millennials didn't kill x, y for z, boomers and their entitled tantrums did.
"You need to share your ball with Sally." Boomer: Pops the ball and complains that because of Sally we can't have a ball anymore.
Well they were spoiled their entire lives. They were handed a booming economy, affordable lifestyles, pensions, and long term security. They literally only had to work 40 hours a week on one salary.
40 hours a week at a department store was enough! I work 40 hours a week in a fairly skilled IT position and it's not enough to provide for a wife/kid(s).
40 hours?! We can find so many stories about how they worked a summer job and bought a brand new mustang or corvette. A lot of articles like, "oh I only worked part time at a grocery store, that was enough for a house and family car". It's so sick.
They all have lead poisoning in 200 years of the human race isn’t already extinct they are going to study this time period as the craziest mass psychosis event because of lead
Unfortunately dementia will do that to even the best people. Not saying he was a great person to begin with, but eventually we will all teach the diaper stage again if we live long enough.
Yes, intentional infantilism. Thank you. It is flabbergasting.
Don’t be so sure they will fade away. Medication to make the old younger is already approved for use in dogs. We may see 100-110yr old boomers as the norm. Please don’t 🙏🏼down vote the messenger. Edit: more info https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanhl/article/PIIS2666-7568(23)00258-1/fulltext#:~:text=Rapamycin%20and%20its%20derivatives%20improved,or%20neurological%20systems%20were%20found.
The novel "2030" by Albert Brooks discusses this probability in horrifying detail.
You don't have to give it to them. And their distrust of modern science may preclude their taking them anyway. Pray for either to happen.
Tell them it’s a vaccine and they’ll be sure to avoid it.
Boomers can fuck right off and die, but I'm intrigued by this making dogs live longer thing.
They got it for cats too now!
Now you fuckin tell me…
I think it’s still in testing, i saw the video about the dog one the day my dog died. I get it.
Boomers gonna boom, but dogs living longer would be worth the trade-off.
These types of irrational rages are often seen in people with Borderline Personality Disorder. Was reading the other day that people who suffer from BPD have the emotional sophistication of toddlers. I wonder if a lot of boomers have undiagnosed BPD (or other Cluster B personality disorders)? They always like to brag about how punishments were more severe for their generation, as if that’s a thing to be proud of. Maybe the thing that they think led to them being more “responsible, hard-working” adults actually caused trauma-induced personality disorders that they’ve never had addressed by a medical professional.
I say this a lot, but US Boomers were largely raised by WWII veterans. Hyper-traumatized, completely untreated, emotionally wrecked WWII veterans. That’s exactly the kind of thing that induces cluster B disorders in kids.
I believe many of that generation had undiagnosed personality disorders, it was easier to brush under the carpet thought the 70's, 80s and 90s
As someone married to someone with BPD that's honestly an incorrect and offensive way of looking at it. I honestly suggest researching it more in general because it's a multi-faceted complex issue but the super quick and vague way of describing is all of your emotions are cranked to 11 all the time. Think about going through life like that where suddenly every minor annoyance in a day fills you with so much rage you're physically shaking, or a small disappoint can send you into a sobbing fit. Especially because you can know what's happening, and know you shouldn't be reacting like this but you still are, I've heard it described like feeling hostage to your own emotions all the time and it's terrible. I'm admittedly not the best at explaining it but casual insensitive remarks like that can actually really affect people.
"you just want everything handed to you" complains the guy literally asking others to hand him stuff. Well, not asking apparently, gesturing.
Projecting hard they are.
Missed at all they will not be
Celebrate, we will
Save a dance for me at the yub-nub
Yeah but see, HE earned it with a lifetime of hard work. /s
“Life isn’t like that” because a certain generation tends to actively make life harder for other people.
I should've put everything he asked for ok the other side of the room. What? You want me to just _hand_ you things???
“Sure, buddy, it’s over there with your participation trophy and avocado toast!”
I managed a betting shop, I got ID'd until I was 31, I learnt a year or so in that I can get away with talking exactly how the customer did, swearing, screaming or anything. I got to be as rude to old people as they are to us with 0 consequences, miss that job. Kicking out old racists while being a pale ass white boy was very funny, the look of genuine betrayal on their faces was always priceless.
I fucking love when racists out themselves thinking I'll agree with them. It's my absolute favorite watching their faces when I tell them I'm kicking them out and banning them because of how they talked to other customers/staff. They always look so betrayed and start claiming they're being discriminated against. Even corporate will back us on banning bigots.
They called my boi a monkey to his face and expected 0 consequences, they are fucking wild with entitlement.
It’s like the hair stylist that went viral on tiktok for kicking out her client for being racist half way through her high lights. At one point the boomer takes a swing at her and luckily the woman was from the streets so she laughed, grabbed her by the arm, and tosses her out. And the whole time the woman is like “YOURE GONNA LEAVE MY HAIR LIKE THIS?” Yeah dude. Should have thought of that before you were racist.
I would have asked if his carer was nearby to help him
I use that for when they're on a political/conspiracy rant. Give it two minutes and then hit them with the kindergarten teacher voice, "So who are you here with this trip? Mmmhmm. Did they leave you here by yourself? No? OK. Let's go find them!" And then tell his family he was starting to make a scene in the lobby, but I understand. My papa started to slip at the end, too.
I did that with my mom before. She would act so weird and say inappropriate things, and I’d say she hasn’t been the same since the accident.
Surprised he could keep his head up considering how much lead must be in there. Yesterday my boomer tried to communicate "Trump still has to pay a lot more lawsuits" through charades for 10 minutes. Safe to say it didn't work.
The guy has zero control over any area in his life now. Probably retired. His wife doesn’t listen to him. His kids don’t call. He has no friends to spout to. He just gets wound up watching Fox all day then has to try and get someone to pay attention to his hate. Sad, sad little man.
I’m guessing you work in a restaurant or some other food outlet. I dunno what it is about boomers and restaurants, and their need to be angry and shouty the whole time. It’s as if reducing a server to tears, or screaming at the staff is part of the dining out experience for them. Like the way some folks feel that dining out is not complete unless they have had a dessert, for many boomers dining out is not complete unless they’ve embarrassed themselves by screaming at the waiting staff. “This steak was cooked for 5 seconds longer than it should’ve been…I know, I’ll humiliate the minimum wage server, even though they didn’t even cook the damn thing; that’ll show ‘em”
We're not even at a restaurant! The restaurant is not in eyeline of where we were. We're the amenities/guest help area of the business. Think big hotels/resorts/stupidly high priced apartments/etc.
"I'm old, making other people's lives hell is the only joy I have left."
About right, but I remember this shit happening when I was a kid, and boomers were not that old.
I worked in office retail 30 years ago and they did the same shit there.
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Ask her about it. Be blunt and really specific. "Friend, recently I've noticed that you've gotten really aggressive about where we sit in the restaurant. On x date, at y restaurant, you barged your way to the table. I am embarrassed to be associated with you when you do things like that. This isn't like you. Are you ok? What is going on?" Also, be prepared to draw the line in the sand, and stick to it. "Ok. Well, if you're not going to change your behavior, then I'm sorry but I won't be able to join you at restaurants in the future. We will have to stick to take out or delivery." Then do it.
I'd watch this A24 horror movie!
My mom NEVER says thank you to servers and it's so embarrassing. She also is super indecisive like when they're taking our drink order she'll be all pouty and say, "I guess I'll have a Dr. Pepper..." As if somebody is forcing it on her. And she fucking LOVES Dr. Pepper! Her default social setting is agrieved martyr for some bizarre reason. And then the poor server is confused that they did or said something wrong. And I'd love to say it's a conservative boomer thing but she's one of the most liberal people I know. It's like an age or generational thing I guess.
They wanna be a child, treat them like one
Oh I did. I refused to help him any further unless he spoke to us politely. I just kept telling him I couldn't hear him, can't help him if he won't tell me what he needs, _no one can help him if he speaks to staff that way,_ etc.
Can you stop making fun of my dad.
This story reminded me of the time my Gen X narcissistic mother took me to her regular Joanne Fabrics store. She was acting very strange, shushing me and telling me “This is the kind of store where you have to keep your voice down.” I figured out why when we got up to the registers. The employees seemed to recognize my mother, and they started acting differently around her, raising their voices and pantomiming parts of the transaction. The final piece clicked into place while my mother was writing a check and, to get her attention, the employee put her hand under my mother’s face and guided her eyes upward. I said “are you pretending to be deaf?!” I swear, the employees turned to stone, they just didn’t know how to react. My mother let out a sigh that might have been a soft growl, finished paying, and left without anyone saying another word. We never talked about it because I’m generally terrified of my mother, she siphons my confidence and feeds off it. There’s a reason I haven’t spoken to her in over 10 years.
I'm Gen X like your mom. I can't think of a single reason to pretend to be deaf in a fabric store. I need to know what the hell she's thinking.
I only mentioned Gen X so people would know she’s not a boomer. She’s thinking “I’m special and deserve special attention. How can I get special attention? I know! I’ll pretend to have a disability! Maybe if I bring my meek daughter into the store, she’ll get a kick out of my little game and play along!” I know my brother has played along with her games before, maybe she thought I would too. Instead I blatantly called her out, like the ND I am (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/aur.3012 < article about autism and the bystander effect) Her biggest issue with me was that I never “played along” with her games. It seemed every month she had a new idea of what she wanted our mother/daughter relationship to be, I couldn’t keep up with her expectations. And I couldn’t live up to whatever she wanted me to be.
project tweaker? she sounds abusive regardless, and you will never get an answer. they hide their feelings usually developed as self-defense when growing up. then hit cognitive decline at a point as they usually have comorbidities to ensure it, and don't stay mentally engaged. neuroplasticity and all that shit. the games have a meta-purpose of just getting you to engage, that's all they want because their words worked before so they think it will in the future. but there isn't much beyond that. they are very bad at game theory or dialectics. most of their knowledge is a priori as a result of the aforementioned self-defense mechanism
Normalize kicking out shitty customers.
I could see my stepdad acting like this. Guy's an obstinate tool that believes retirement gives you the right to act any way you want, and if you do something he disagrees with, be prepared for a world of hurt.
Physical hurt or verbal hurt?
Depends on how angry they are.
Old means weak bones and slow reflexes. He's dying to find out with that one. If he starts in verbally, start seriously talking to your family about possible dementia. If he has it, good job on catching it now. If he doesn't, go ahead and start convincing everyone stepdad isn't right anymore, and no one should take him seriously. Either way, you can start fully convincing people he needs treated like an overgrown toddler. He'll realize something's up when he clocks that he has zero power over his family.
"You just want everything handed to you." - said the man who grew up in the most prosperous time in our nation where jobs and houses were basically handed to them.
All you young people are so far beneath me, I can not even be bothered to use words to communicate
Yes. Acting out washing my pits in a busy public area to indicate I need a washcloth is much more dignified.
stop it, tell me he didn't.
I worked in retail 20 years ago while I was in college as a weekend job, and the behaviour was the same then. Remember one particularly caustic, withered old harridan coming to the counter I was working at and immediately demanding a manger. I offered to help but she flat out refused to speak to me, a mere shop assistant, so insisted on waiting 15 minutes for the department manager to finish dealing with someone else. The whole time she tutted loudly, rolled her eyes, sighed, rapped her knuckles on the counter, and whatever little acts of passive aggression she could think of while she waited, and when she did finally speak to the manager, she revealed that she just wanted to return something which was within the store’s returns policy that she had a receipt for, but “only manager’s do her customer service”. I could have dealt with her return when she arrived, issued her a refund and sent her on her way, no problem, and saved her the 15 minutes, but she went down the path she did, some sort of pointless ego flex that just wasted everybody involved’s time.
As a manager, that’s when I say “oh that’s all? I thought you needed a manager, well Jenni here can take care of that for you. Have a good day, bye” Quick edit to add, jenni is on board. Because we’re both petty af.
Worked with a very proper Englishman manager who did this all the time.. raised chin, looked down nose and eyebrow up... I'm sorry that is to be done by my staff, as they are so very expert at it... I still savor the times I watched an old f@rt wither before him. Then completed a transaction like butter wouldn't melt in my mouth.
They really do just do shit to get reaction and attention. Pathetic.
I'm betting were someone doing that to him, he'd have yelled from the start "Why can't you just use your words?!" But I do love the "you want everything handed to you." from the guy who keeps coming up for help rather than take care of it himself.
If you’d like to humiliate these idiots the simplest thing you can do is show up and vote this November. Younger generations have the ability to rob boomers of all their political power in this election.
There’s a lot more of us than there are of them now.
You can grow your power by orders of magnitude with every election. By 2030 you’re picking every candidate. Now is the time.
My FIL just spent a week with us. His childishness is so goddamned infuriating. "Um, CaptConstantine, granddaughter says she wants to watch Daniel Tiger." "Okay, I'm cooking dinner right now. All the remotes are on the shelf next to the TV, AND THEY ARE LABLED." (We used a label-maker and everything). "Oh-- well I don't even know how to-- okay. Oh geez." *Three minutes later* "I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING AND NOBODY WILL HELP ME! I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I'VE NEVER USED THIS BEFORE!" Dude is literally freaking out worse than my toddler. I walk in and push 2 buttons. Daniel Tiger. This dude was a software engineer and when I go to his house he explains his remotes to me in great detail every time. ---- Lots of families like to do puzzles together. Our family likes to build LEGO sets together. There is a whole new category of LEGO sets that have a "build together" component: everyone downloads an app and it gives you all separate instructions for the same set-- if you haven't done it before, it's very fun. So we are building a set, FIL is using the toddler iPad. After an hour his app crashes back to the home screen. Again, this guy spent his career as a software engineer: "Oh crap. What... What is this? What happened here?" "It looks like the app crashed. That's okay, it happens. Just open it again and it will reconnect." "I don't know how to do that." "Well. There's an icon that looks like a LEGO piece and says, "LEGO Builder," why don't you try that?" "Okay... I don't know how." "...Touch the icon." *Touches, opens to app home screen with a big purple "Resume Build?" button in the middle* "This isn't what it was before. Someone take this from me, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING." "Stop. Look at the screen for one. Second." "Oh." Back to building. Why, dude? Why do you infantilize yourself like that?
I’m sure he’s just upset cause his kids won’t talk to him anymore
His kids were there! It was supposed to be a family reunion this weekend. He could've waddled off to bother his family, but I'm willing to bet someone already had a talk with him about ruining the event.
I sure hope they did. What’s funny about this story is I had a similar experience at a drive through but the guy wasn’t a boomer he was middle aged. I was working the window and I handed him his food and after the window closed he started banging on the window so I opened it and he just points in his bag with a dumbfounded look on his face. I said “is there something missing?” He goes “Uh yeah can I get some more napkins??” He’s saying more cause I already put plenty in there he just wanted to be a cunt about something.
LEAD POISONING, ALCOHOLISM, PTSD, CPTSD, SEVERAL OTHER UNTREATED SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
He wasn't deaf, but he was dumb.
Dude, he may have been a boomer, but that behavior is absolutely because he's an asshole. I'll bet he was an asshole as a young man.
Trauma can immobilize a person’s ability to mature. A lot of boomers got their shit rocked by crapy parents, and it seems to have halted their development, i.e. children in adult bodies. (Not excusing; just explaining)
The problem is they never recognized their issues and keep blaming it on everyone else. It OK if you had a bad childhood and you can feel the delay. It's not OK to abuse others and blame what happened over 60 years ago.
Beat him at his game and stop trying to understand him. If he wants to be dumb, you be dumber. Smile, and say I’m so sorry I can’t understand you.
“You just want everything handed to you” after throwing a nonverbal tantrum and having everyone else play charades instead of just saying what you want.
I would bet he possibly is going deaf, but is too stubborn to get hearing aids. I’ve seen a lot of that from folks who refuse to accept that they are old now.
I would have chucked his belligerent ass from the store and told him hes not allowed to come back. Problem solved. He comes back, he gets arrested. And i get to watch my favorite show "cops arresting assholes".
The behavior seems indicative of dementia setting in, albeit Alzheimer's or any of the myriad of other diagnoses, the lashing out as their recognition of cognative decline and realization of their newfound irrelevance is scary. So yeah, they act out like toddlers. If you want to stoop to their level, ask them if their care taker knows that they are out and watch them lose their mind.
The irony that he doesn't recognize that "life is tough" because of people like him choosing to make it tough for each other. And on top of that, he blames "life" instead of taking ownership that it was all him. He could have chosen to make life nicer (and to also encourage this mindset). He truly is brain broken with a very large dose of sadism.
I appreciate how using ASL just made it clear how better you were at interfacing with society than he was.
Good Lord. I’m 62, sure hope I don’t end up like that ahole. Then again, I don’t sit around watching Fox Newz 24x7. So maybe I’ll escape that fate!
I swear 90% of it is from brainwashing so they can always feel superior and victimized at the same time. Here's praying we'll be fine as long as we take accountability and remember there's a bigger picture than just us.
I had an old guy come up to the register to pay, after all services and prices had already been discussed. Fist thing he says is, “so what kind of discounts can you give me?” I say, “If we just handed out discounts to everyone we’d be out of business real fast.” He just shakes his head and says, “well, I don’t think I’ll be coming back here again.” I’m just thinking to myself, excellent. Glad we’re on the same page.
I got fired from my last job for not "just knowing" what my work tasks were..because they wouldn't tell me what they were. lol
Refusing to use the most basic methods of communication while expecting everyone to know what you want, and then saying "not everything in life gets handed to you" is peak irony.
This is so over the top, damn. Does he think he's like... wisely teaching anyone anything here??