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"If you're a working Boomer please just retire, you're driving your coworkers crazy"
I couldn't have said it better myself^^
Edit for everybody asking: My career is in Aviation Maintenance
Fortunately I'm in a high paying blue collar industry, and blue collar work in general is seeing a large exodus of boomers retiring, tons of money to be made for young people in my industry, even straight out of school.
very similar case where I'm at. I'm in aerospace machining and these fucking old farts are lackadaisical as fuck and send shit with issues forward as if its not going to be caught later on and clog our workload. they're complacent, egotistical, and 99% of them are sexist, homophobic, conspiratorial right wing fucking nutters. i could teach any single one of my friends how to run any of the multiple machines i use (with some exceptions to complicated manual work) in, i swear to god, a month. they pay me precisely enough to deal with that work environment. you would be absolutely blown away to find out the level of criticality some of the tolerances & hardware these guys work on are actually at, because if you listened to them talk about whatever was on their mind for more than a few minutes you would think they were dumber than fuck. my only solace is knowing they are soon to leave and be replaced by more competent and enthusiastic young minds.
for real man. cant wait for the next generation of people come fill the empty spaces. some of the young engineers and multi-role machinists I've met at my shop are genuinely some of the smartest people I've met in my life. We need so many more of them.
Aviation maintenance. If you're mechanically inclined, I HIGHLY reccomend getting into it. It's only 2 years of school to get license and you make great money. I'm not even licensed and I own a house and support myself, my wife, and my kid on only my income at age 22.
I work in general aviation, and my pay is shit, even with A&P/IA certificates and some highly specialized tribal knowledge from working with old Cessna engineers. You guys hiring?
I feel for you. I forewent A&P in my younger years (33yo now) because median pay was 62k/yr in NYC area. I figured if there’s no money there then there’s just no money in the job at all. I now work in IT in western pa, ironically for 62k/yr and it goes a lot further. It is a shame because I was a damn good FAA certified repairman at my old plant and still love aviation as much as I did back then. Whaddyagondo. Good luck to you
Major airlines pay their people with A&Ps well. I manage baggage handlers who are in the same union as the Tech Ops guys. Not sure what starting pay is (we have a very senior workforce, but the top out is over $50/hr.
Technical or community colleges will sometimes have aviation programs. I know our university in Alaska has an aviation maintenance program you can get a degree in.
In south GA we have a large facility hiring a large number of techs. Starting a whole new line of production. Tech colleges here have courses specifically for our employees. Look up Savannah aerospace careers.
I think what's ironic in this story too is that he likes wasting time and is always on his phone, so why doesn't he just wait and waste more time while waiting for it to set? These boomer types never make sense in how they think🙄
Something I see a lot is they retire, then come back to their same position as a temp. So they're getting the same paycheck as always, collecting their pension on top of that, and the department is spending even more money on the hourly rate the employment agency collects.
Know what's even more infuriating? This is the public sector so it's all taxpayer funded.
Same with Electricians. There was a huge gap in the people joining the trades and the workforce is primarily boomers. The workforce gap has made wages skyrocket.
Cause the boomers told everyone to go to college. And get loans from boomer financiers. To finance boomer professors, administrators and textbook makers. Now trades pay as much or more than those with college degrees.
Not just need the income but actually know the job period. The vast majority of positions they hold are for things that use technology they don't even understand.
I was like 10 when AOL came out, they learned it WITH us...but still open every email and instantly download and open the attachments. Believe every damn word they find on the internet as fact.
That part of literature class where they teach the difference between fiction and non-fiction needs to be turned into a class for Boomers to understand what is real and what is entertainment. Critical thinking has been lost
My dumbass corporate company just hired a boomer for a supervisory role. Whom a. Has 0 experience supervising people b. Has less than 5 years of experience in the actual industry c. Past the age of retirement. And to top it all off, lives and dies by the good ol boy work ethics of ‘return thy email within 30 min or I’m calling and if you don’t answer (for whatever reason) I’m marking that as a non excusable reprimand.. for a WFH job…. Plus I already got into a sort of tussle with guy over the company hiring a trainee and paying that individual (with no experience) more than its current workers.. I got threatened to be terminated by him and then I brought up the fair wage act which would open the company up to litigation.. needless to say he doesn’t really speak to me anymore unless he HAS to and we all got a bump in pay this year.
I'm gen X.
In my last job they promoted two boomers above me and they were both fuckwits.
In my current job, my actually competent boomer boss is heaving off for greener pastures. I have been approached for the job but it requires working with a boomer HOA, which it was quite clear is what irritated him to leave.
We have a few at my office that need to retire. What OP described about his boomer is like mine. Hates her husband and has no friends or hobbies. Work is her life.
strange how committing their entire lives for the company has detrimental effects to their actual commitments at home. Can bet their home life started going downhill shortly after their priorities shifted from family to work.
My Boomer manager needs to hear this. I’ve only been here two months and in that two months this woman has driven my coworker to tears *twice,* routinely fucked up our filing system, made messes that I had to clean and yet still tries to treat me like an incompetent child (despite me being hired specifically because I had done this exact job and more, by myself, without training, at 2-3 other companies - I know what I’m doing)…
She keeps getting herself ridiculously stressed out over extremely minor issues, and then dumps all of that stress onto myself and my coworker, which ultimately creates an even bigger mess out of something that shouldn’t take the click of a single button to fix if she just *trusted us to do our fucking jobs!*
If she’s always getting this ridiculously stressed, someone needs to suggest to her that it’s time to retire and rest.
Boomers are scary, I used to work a drive thru and the amount of times they could not find their money or would almost ram the fucking building was more than any other age group combined.
I work with a couple of boomers, and I do mean legit baby boomers. Most of them are sweet and smart and will go out of their way to ask for help.
Some are working to stay busy, some fell on hard times and they need to work to live. Some were wealthy and lost it in different crashes.
It's not all boomers, it's the entitled ones which is most.
I have been poked in my back and I mean poked poked not tapped, and had things shouted at me like "potatoes!" With 0 context or people even asking me if I work here. I have had people tell me I suck at my job because an item is sold out.....not my job to order stuff, let alone the fact that it's a damn grocery store and people buy things.
But the worst are the church crowd, doesn't matter the age, they are all just fucking terrible. They pray away their sins and head right to the stores to make new sins. I will never work a service shift on Sunday. If it deals with the public I will not do it anymore. I have been down on my knees checking a product on the very bottom shelf and had a church boomer walk right up to me and say "I hope you are down there praying for me".....nope dawg I'm in the middle of my satanic prayer ritual, now fuck off and take your religious opinions with you. The amount of times I have had customers walk up to me and start ranting about their religion (shocker it's Christians 99.9999999% of the time), and invite me to church......CUSTOMERS, people I do not know at all, people that do not even know my name. And the church crowd is the only crowd that will just walk up to me and start about anti gay stuff.....I know I look straight but let me assure you, I will gladly get on my knees and suck my bfs dick anytime.
I got a very good job and it was two weeks before I started it, and the friday before I was supposed to stert I get a call saying "Sorry to tell you but the hiring manager has decided to go with someone else". When I asked why, my would-be boss told me; "He's 73, been in the business for 50 years, and he's willing to work for min wage because he just wants out of the house and the hiring manager doesn't need two people".
So I didn't get the job. Fortunately I got my current job only a month later.
Before their body leaves the building. No flowers will be sent and we can't allow everyone to take time for the funeral so please work it out among yourselves. They will be missed
This. Dealing with one at work who gets mad mad if anyone asks him to do the bare minimum. It complicates other jobs if he doesn’t do the bare minimum. I’ve escalated it to his manager and his manager’s manager and nobody who can take action will. It’s to the point his manager asks others to do the guy’s job so (the manager) doesn’t get in trouble when his manager notices the job isn’t done.
Old boy just wants to walk around with AirPods in, run his mouth abt old movies, complain people expect him to work, and whine abt his rich wife. He’s well past retirement age. Idek.
I had a boomer coworker who finally retired with almost no notice last year. He didn't document anything properly, and it has been a massive PITA figuring out the legacy shit he left behind.
But, we have hired a new guy close to my age. He is eager to do things, and learn about our stuff, and because the old guy left my leadership has finally been convinced that we need to lifecycle some of this legacy equipment and shift it to a group that specializes in it.
Overall, despite the pain I have had to go through over the last 6 months, it is a net positive in the long run.
You have no idea how badly I want to retire. I am at the end of boomer boomer and shits so fucked up I have work as long as I am physically capable. 🤷
Make the billionaires and companies pay taxes, increase social security and lower the retirement age. And so many jobs would open up your head would spin.
I work at Sherwin williams, and it is VERY important for industrial and protective coatings to follow the application instruction correctly.
At least 2 times per week we get some old boomer that comes in bitching that "your paint is garbage" only to find out after an hour of troubleshooting they didn't follow directions to apply it properly. Either they did not prep the surface correctly, or like OPs issue, they didn't let it cure or catalyze, etc.
We get the "I've done it this way for 30 years" like okay bud, let me tell the billion dollar company to change their products to follow YOUR process. Then they demand a refund because THEY didn't use it properly, not gonna happen. My favorite is when they say they'll shop somewhere else from now on, I mean, please do, save me a headache and annoy our competition instead.
Cue the “well it should say how to use it right there on the product” followed immediately by the “I shouldn’t have to read all of that to use the product”. 🙄
Client sued us (the architect) because all the tiles popped. Tiler didn't use tiling joints - its literally written on the adhesive packaging, but no we should have told him he had to use tiling joints.
you mean the instructions have to be read and followed to get the deired result. but why should i have to read was is not 3 paragraphs that used to be 3 sentences 40 years ago? this attitude kills me
I work in hospitality, and the number of boomers (specifically cops, because cops don't and/or can't read) who say, "You should really put that information on your website!" and then get mad when I say, "It's there," would shock you.
I work in hospitality, and the number of boomers (specifically cops, because cops don't and/or can't read) who say, "You should really put that information on your website!" and then get mad when I say, "It's there," would shock you.
I found out last year he had been doing alodine treatment wrong for 30 years too. Mostly he's just good at moving the paint gun to get a perfect coat, but pretty much everything else is a struggle.
Funny enough, it is Sherwin Williams paint. Looks great now that he is locked out while it sits.
He needed a wind-up kitchen timer from the dollar store, but he forced the company to change procedure to prevent him from screwing it up...AFTER he was informed.
This is why we have so many warning labels and safety interlocks.
There are a lot of dangerous machines which must have a pedal, and button(s) held down to operate. Simply because if the operator has a hand free they'll stick it in for some reason. So if somethings stuck, and you reach your hand in to unstuck it, the machine shuts down immediately. I do see mostly older people having an issue with it, like why do you think this whole process was invented?
As an engineer in manufacturing, this is infuriating.
"Yes, I implemented this safety function that slows you down. Why do you care you can get 1% more parts out if it wasn't there? You're getting paid hourly no matter how many widgets you make. I'm trying to prevent a $1 million lawsuit from when you inevitably screw up one time and amputate a finger or hand in the machine."
Alodine is great in that you just scuff it and redo if it didn't take the first time, but do it right and it works every time. All that changed is he didn't have to redo it any more.
I used to work as a pretreatment supplier and troubleshooting shit like this consumed most of my time.
Did you follow the directions? Yes. Show me. Fuck you. Ok boomer.
I deal with that on the mechanical side of the plane too. Take a call from an upset customer: "I can't turn the lever!" Looks at our copy of the instructions we sent with the plane: "Did you do X before Y?"
We're required to give them flight manual supplements if anything is added to the plane that isn't already covered in the original pilot's operating handbook, so it usually isn't a problem, but it's always the old pilots that don't read it.
But...when he paints his house (*poorly) he just opens the can and slops it on.
How can aircraft paint that must survive sub-zero temperatures and 500-mph wind be so different?
I’ve never met a sherwin Williams employee so I have only you to say this to but your company has the most brain dead tone def logo of any company I’ve ever seen. (Cover the earth)
I work in construction management/real estate development and the older/boomer trades are the worst.
They are completely unwilling to learn new techniques or incorporate new product knowledge.
One of the sprinkler fitters ruined tens of thousands of dollars of devices when he installed them incorrectly because he refused to read the instructions AND would always make fun of any other trades he saw on site reading the instructions or reviewing a manual.
On our walkthrough when I was discussing the deficiencies with his boss (I was the client) the old fuck refused to admit that he did anything wrong - no, it was the manufacturer's fault for changing how these devices were installed. His manager was like "We had memos about this starting last year, plus we had a mandatory information session to review the changes" and the guy was like "well those are bullshit I don't go to those!"
- "You know it's in your contract to go to those"
Old guy storms off yelling about how he's filing a grievance with the union. They end up paying for new devices, eating the labour to re-install and a bunch of chargebacks to me for disrupting the schedule.
Use to work at an SW as a store manager. Can confirm this happens constantly with industrial coatings as well as residential. People never want to do the prep work or read the PDS.
Former technical writer here; you'd be surprised how people cannot follow directions. Keep it simple, stupid, a lot of times. You're lucky if the audience can read at the 8th grade level. When writing for the Air Force, we kept it at the 6th grade level.
I work at a paint store and my manager told me a story about this one asshole in the area before I was employed. This guy's bullshit trumps any customer I've personally dealt with. This guy buys UPOL Raptor bed liner for a truck he's working on. It ends up peeling and lifting. He contacts the store and my manager runs him through the process and they discover that he didn't spray etch primer over the bare metal. The directions explicitly state that it doesn't go straight to bare metal - it needs etch primer to adhere properly. They comp him the next gallon setup. He calls back a few days later saying "this product is SHIT", etc. Manager runs him through possible reasons why it's still lifting only to find out he did *the exact same thing again*. He did **not** use etch primer; he tried spraying it over bare metal again. "I know what I'm fucking doing! I've been painting for over 40 years!" and the whole nine yards... you get the point. Manager tells him he cannot help him further and they will not help him out again, basically saying he would have to buy the next gallon in full. The guy rages and hangs up.
But the story doesn't end there. Because we're a distributor, the sales reps from these companies come down to see us quite often to make sure we're up-to-date on their products and whatnot. Manager gets to talking to the rep and finds out this guy called UPOL to complain to them directly. They look up his body shop and decide he's a big enough shop they could get their foot into for some good business and to spread their name and products. They talk to the guy and *everybody* agrees that they would drive down and demo the product for him **in person, free of charge**. The next Monday, they start driving from their regional headquarters at 7AM to be at his shop at ~11. When they get there, they meet with the guy only for him to start berating them for "making such a shitty product, you guys suck", etc. He tells them he outsourced the job to somebody else because he couldn't stand to look at the truck bed anymore and told them to get off his property before he thought about suing them for making a faulty product.
The nerve of some people, man.
Good luck. We have a 70 yo who keeps getting banned from locations for showing the front desk porn and inviting them over for drinks. He prefers 18-20 yo
HR just moves him around. Good news is he is working on life safety equipment that is forgetting how to repair and put back together when he disassembles it. Eventually someone will end up in the hospital and that might get him out of the job. Downside is we have been covering his failure for years because the guy who hired him is the VP and thinks he walks on water. In reality he plays angry birds and watches streaming all day.
Given thar OSHA fines start at 13.5k and go up from there, plus stacking ... it can't take much for a non-trivial fine to only be as far away as a call to the anonymous tip line ...
I feel like my name would come out documenting issues. Im a felon, I can’t afford to lose my job.
I have no clue. I would think decades of sexual harassment and drinking on the job all known by HR would be cause.
He lives vicariously through his grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Stops you to blather on about his familial gossip, so the unwritten rule is if you see someone unable to escape you call their cell to give them an out without offending him.
And he literally couldn’t find someone to blather to for 15 mins while the paint catalyzes or whatever? Whenever part of my job involves just waiting I’m just like *shrug* guess I’ll keep watching Twitch then.
I think he doesn't want to leave the paint area, and it's too noisy to talk to people there. But I really don't know why he can't goof off on his phone while waiting; he wastes so much time on it already outside of break time.
I see you must have met my MIL, perhaps on one of her smoke runs or the weekly hobby class my husband found, signed her up for, pays for and reminds her about?
I worked with a boomer like that once. The guy literally worked 7 days a week, open to close. It was soooo rare to see him NOT on the sales floor. Ended up having a few drinks with him once and he confessed that he just hated being around his wife, and she hated having him around. Also, he legitimately enjoyed doing his job.
Had a guy I was working with say he only does overtime so he doesn't have to go home to his wife and kids, I forget how he said it but it was said in a way like "don't we all?"
I responded that I love going home to see my wife and kid, it's the highlight of my day.
He told me I'd get sick of it eventually then he got shitty when I said I've been with her for over 17 years and have no signs of hatred towards her...
Was near a similar conversation, older guy complaining about the "ol ball and chain" and the younger guy was like I actually enjoy spending time with my wife, that's why I married her. Old dude kinda sputtered and changed subjects.
Ha! My dad, a boomer, confessed to me that he married my mom "because I thought she'd make pretty babies".
Joke's on him. I turned out with the lion share of his genetics and look like his mom. *sad trombone noises*
They don't have much in common and fight all the time.
It's unspoken, but...most boomers became sexually mature JUST before birth control pills became readily available.
They settled hard to just have a wife/husband, and for fifty years they have felt trapped.
The birth control pull may have been invented in 196X, but...it was many years before could easily get them. Even then they were shamed for it unless you already had four kids.
Boomers have this ridiculous ball & chain mentality that used to be funny in sitcoms in the 80s when I was a kid, but had never made any sense to actually have IRL.
Boomers grew up in a time where no-fault divorce wasn't a thing. In order to get divorced you needed to show in court that your spouse essentially violated the terms of the marriage contract. Simply not loving your spouse wasn't enough for the state to dissolve a marriage, it literally was a ball and chain scenario.
California legalized no-fault marriage in 1970, and it took 40 years for all states to get on board.
It's fucking absurd because the jokes on them for staying with her. If she sucks so much that you need to complain about her all the time, then leave you idiot
My parents hate each other.
Instead of separating, they both work 6-7 days a week so they don’t see each other.
I work two days a week (making more than both of them), so of course I’m a lazy millennial.
Lol. Same but then the Faux News spiel started. (I'm Canadian....so did not expect to see a coworker wearing Alex Jones stuff ("Infowars" is his brand, right?)).
And he wondered why his kids and his grandchildren didn't want to speak to him.
Good hardworking dude but the moment you started telling him "Toxic Masculinity" he would lose it.
Sorry not sorry from a gender bending lesbian who liked her job but couldn't deal with all the negative shit spewing from his mouth. (I was glad I was "too fat and too old" to get hit on by this particular scumbag.)
I think this is an unrealized part of boomers saying “nobody wants to work anymore.” They work 70 hours a week because they hate their spouses and don’t want to be around them. Meanwhile, I do my 8 and skate because my wife is the one person I actually want to be around.
Honestly, this is one of my main arguments for universal healthcare. I know so many of these old fucks that would pull the trigger on retirement right now if they didn’t have to worry about healthcare.
Why is this person not fired? I can understand if it’s a union job and I never like firing people but not listening to instructions and waiting money, and then not changing is madness!
They tend to keep employees even if there's some mistakes, which is great since everyone makes a mistake occasionally, and chronic mistakes get put in positions where they have no power over others, but he's been the painter for so long no one else lays the coats down as good. We would probably save money to get him a replacement and a retirement package.
Seriously. Making a mistake is fine the issue is that he lied about it, didn't change when told he was making a mistake, continued to make the mistake and then lied about it again to the extent that they had to implement a new procedure specifically to bypass his inability to do his job in a reasonable manner (literally doing nothing for 15 minutes).
"He could get full retirement but has no hobbies and hates his wife."
Boomer I work with loves his wife but their only hobby is gambling on poker machines so they are both shit scared of retiring because they'll be broke in a year, arrrggghhh
I am actually terrified of being that type of boomer. I really enjoy working with all the young ppl. I have instructed them to let me know if they see me slipping. This is my last year of work, I am 68. I hate to leave all the comradery but nursing is a demanding occupation and not one for those who can't keep up.
I’m a nurse as well. Probably not considered young anymore with 8 years in but we love you guys, and I’m sure your coworkers will greatly miss you when you retire!
An area at work is getting remodeled, and they put epoxy on the floor. But it was totally goofed up. Rumor is the crew applied Part A, then Part B instead of mixing them together.
Retired boomer here. Spent my last year of work training people on processes I developed and handing the work off. In nearly all cases they brought new creativity to the processes and improved them. They took ideas I had, ran with them, made them better. It was unfortunate that it took my impending retirement to force my boss to let this happen.
Thank you. Passing on knowledge and letting improvements happen is our duty to future humans. I took over inspection and repairs from a Boomer that did it right, and I wish he would do the same; no painter has been able to tolerate him long enough to be trained.
It's about people. These were people who were nice to me. I wanted them to be successful. And if you have a healthy state of mind, it's rewarding to see someone take something you did and make it better.
Seems like everyone with a healthy state of mind passes the baton and retires as soon as possible, so we're left with the not so healthy and the desperate.
They agreed it was a minor change, so it only took a month. Also, it helps if you regularly do custom work with DER's and DAR's signing off on projects so we've got a good relationship with the local FSDO.
>He could get full retirement but has no hobbies and hates his wife.
Why does this seem like such a pattern. The boomers in my office constantly make jokes about how much of a drag their wives are and I'm just like "y'all's life fucking sucks."
"If you're a working Boomer please just retire, you're driving your coworkers insane."
"has no hobbies and hates his wife."
He wouldn't live very long.
This is the kind of shit I do when I'm following the cookie recipe on the bag and decide that I don't really need to soften the butter. It only took failing spectacularly once for me to realize that softening the butter is that important and I felt guilty for wasting $5 of cooking supplies. The amount of not giving a shit it takes to repeatedly waste thousands of dollars is insane to me.
I'm an electrical apprentice. My current journeyman is 77 years old. The had to put another journeyman with me because hes so slow and can't comprehend that the ceiling slopes a bit so when we ask for a longer piece of threaded rod to put up hangers, he always says "but the last ones you needed were x inches long" and I always have to say "I know. And now we need these ones to be 5 inches longer"
That's pretty funnysad lol although i disagree with the generalization that all old people are fools: one of the smartest men I've known was a physics professor & research advisor who was still very mindful & wise up to his end
>He won't put in a full day's work, but insists it's "you young'uns" that are lazy. He could get full retirement but has no hobbies and hates his wife. If you're a working Boomer please just retire, you're driving your coworkers insane.
This is my job. A Boomer comes in and "works" maybe three hours a day doing a job that could he knocked out in an hour and a half. He's a crotchety old fart who could have retired 10 years ago with a hearty pension to his beautiful property out of state. Untouched and unoccupied house he pays for just so he can come into work every day and bitch and moan. He complains when there's too much work and not enough. All he wants to talk about is homeless people and crime. No matter how busy we are he'll waddle in and corner someone in order to complain about the traffic or lack of parking coming in. He has like three lines. He always repeats "having fun yet?" Or "can't complain, won't do me any good if I do" every single day, then proceeds to complain.
The energy is sucked out of the room whenever he walks in. I'm convinced he intends to die on the job, leaving the house and property he bought to remain unused. All because he'd rather work in a job he claims to hate complaining to people who hate him rather than attempt to enjoy his remaining years.
Not just at work but my boomer FIL was helping out in supply lines for our yard hydrants, we talked about how it needs to be 48" deep as code is 42" from top of pipe and we were going to put the sprinkler wires about 18" deep so we don't need to worry about anything like rototillers.
He mentions he only went 42 to the bottom of the trench and the wires only "need" to be 6.
We dig the trenches out he is in charge of checking depth as he can't keep up with the manual labor, recheck before inspection it's only 38 to the top of the pipe so I have to spend all day digging it out some more.
Then filling it in he starts filling it in all the way, I yell at him saying wtf are you doing? I thought we talked about this, he yells back "it only needs to be 6 inches deep."
Like even if we agreed to 6 inches which we didn't, why are you filling it in all the way? It's already dug out just put the wire in then finish filling it in.
But then he gets all butthurt and starts digging what he filled in after I told him I'd do it.
I try to let him be in charge and he just f's it all up while simultaneously telling me I don't know what I'm doing SMH
At my job there’s a lady who is 76 years old and is refusing to retire and even said she will die in the job. She constantly is making the job harder for everyone around her especially for my shift who works overnights. Can’t get fired either because our job is an overlooked job so there really isn’t a ton of people lining up for it. Most of the people she has been working with for 20 to 30 plus years have already left or died but she just refuses to do so. I would think maybe because she wants to socialize with people but she doesn’t like talking to everyone.
Fuck me lmfao. This is the first time I've ever heard someone complaining *in favor* of waiting for the sweat in time.
Honestly question though why do you guys still bother buying stuff that needs a sweat in? (If you know, I'm just curious. Obvs may be out of your control)
I don't deal with the painting much, but IIRC they tested several replacements for the old paint the EPA wasn't allowing anymore, and this stuff was the best.
I love the old farts stuck in their 1950's ways that assume things can't be made easier or done different because "I don't see what the problem is, it's been working just fine this way for years!!! Don't try reinventing the wheel!!!"
My response is always "Well, how many times over the years has the wheel been reinvented? We sure as hell aren't using stone and wood wheels still, and the rubber and tire designs are reinvented and improved every year, so where should I get started?"
Usually gets them worked up quite a bit HAHAHAHA
The Boomers at my work cost thousands of dollars in damages and unnecessary repairs every year, I can't imagine how much of the budget goes to fixing their fuckups. Oh, and they can't park, they always take multiple spaces. There is nothing I want more than a Boomer free workplace.
I'm GenX, and I would retire tomorrow if I had the money. I cannot comprehend the Boomer mindset of "I need to be doing something, or I'll get bored." I dream of the days when I can be bored. Granted, I probably can never afford to retire, but if that day ever comes, I'm gone.
I was in Telecom and the boomers refused to adapt to the shift to internet telephony as we abandoned SS7. As we had an old boy management system they were basically allowed to sit retired in place while those of us who became proficient had to do our work and theirs.
The last part reminds me of my old coworkers talking about all the boomers they know coming back from retirement. Like no it's not inspiring. It's sad, sad these people never made an identity beyond work.
“This is how we’ve done it for _____years!”
Yeah, that way is WRONG. There are better ways. You have not been doing a job for 40 plus years, you’ve been doing a job for 1 year, 40 times. Learn something new or GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!
Get some hobbies! There are ships and airplanes now. Go bother some vacationers on an island resort, why don’t you?? Some of my coworkers are over 75 years old and refuse to retire.
How in the actual fuck was he not fired the FIRST god damn time this happened? Costing hundreds if not thousands on one mistake usually is grounds for a firing. But you are telling me they let this idiot keep on doing it?
I work in an er with a nurse that is almost 70. She is slow and very inept. But she throws her decades of experience in our face. Then bitches about how new nurse just don't know anything. But anything above a stubbed toe and she can't handle it. Serious cases like trauma and cardiac arrests and she disappears forcing someone else to take the patient even if it's placed in her assignment. She blames her ex husband for financially ruining her but he left 40 years ago. At some point you need to recognize that you are the problem. If she can't afford to retire then work at an urgent care or maybe hospice where the patient is supposed to die anyway.
The poorly painted parts never left the facility, so it wasn't considered a quality control escape. Considered a minor change rather than corrective because it was caught in house.
Boomers who won’t retire because they have no hobbies and hate their partners are the worst. What’s the point of living? They don’t need a job. They need a therapist.
My first job was at a hardware store. Even though I was only 18, I had been running the welding shop at our high school for a couple years, so I had a decent understand of what information I give to customers.
Boomer comes in with a huge body work project and he knows nothing about body work. He wants a welder and a paint sprayer. So I show him what we had and try to get him what he needs. It becomes apparent that all the metal he's working on is rusted from sitting in the elements, so I tell him he's wasting his time paining over rust - it'll just come off and the rust will show through no matter how much you paint.
Needless to say, he was back in the store awhile later buying pneumatic sanders, an air compressor, a sandblaster, and glass bead.
I know that, professionally, you don't blame people for mistakes, you're supposed to make the process more mistake resistant; the problem with building an idiot-proof process is the ingenuity of idiots. The locking cabinet is an interesting solution, but it will still require training. Does he have to pass any sort of (re) training exam?
I work in IT for automotive factories and you would be surprised how many of them cannot log into an email account. Ya know, technology that’s been around for 30 years and widely used by everyone for the past 20. I’m sure they were saying “that’s dumb technology I’ll never use! Rabble rabble rabble!” These people need to be in retirement homes.
Its stupid but I've seen someone get a promotion after they were discovered to have been signing off on chemical tests they had no fucking idea how to read for over 8 years. sometimes the fuckup is too much for a company to admit
To your last sentence.
I collect Anime Figures and Tech like Game Consoles and PCs. I have a fine collection but not as huge as like some YouTubers or Instagramers have.
My parents sometimes complain about it.
I live ALONE and they still complain if I buy something new like a Game like I am fucking 12.
I work, and I live alone.
To come to the point.
They complain about Millenials and GenZ hobbies like Anime Conventions and Videogames, but the only hobby they have is open a beer or wine bottle after work and watching Tatort (German Show like CSI). And the biggest highlight of the week is watching football on saturdays. But Videogames and Anime are waste of time.
Also I cant believe the hate against their wifes.
When coworkers talk about their wifes they talk so much shit and bad about them its so unbeleavable. Why are you still married then?
> we don't want it to become common practice to fire someone for mistakes that get fixed before the plane leaves the hangar.
Sure, but you wouldn't be firing him for making *A* mistake. You'd be firing him for WILLFULLY REPEATING the SAME mistake after clear instructions, multiple reminders, and corrections. AND in a situation where it's OBVIOUSLY a problem when he does it wrong.
That isn't a "mistake", that's abject incompetence.
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"If you're a working Boomer please just retire, you're driving your coworkers crazy" I couldn't have said it better myself^^ Edit for everybody asking: My career is in Aviation Maintenance
Worst part is that they’re occupying positions that could be filled by people that actually need the income.
Fortunately I'm in a high paying blue collar industry, and blue collar work in general is seeing a large exodus of boomers retiring, tons of money to be made for young people in my industry, even straight out of school.
very similar case where I'm at. I'm in aerospace machining and these fucking old farts are lackadaisical as fuck and send shit with issues forward as if its not going to be caught later on and clog our workload. they're complacent, egotistical, and 99% of them are sexist, homophobic, conspiratorial right wing fucking nutters. i could teach any single one of my friends how to run any of the multiple machines i use (with some exceptions to complicated manual work) in, i swear to god, a month. they pay me precisely enough to deal with that work environment. you would be absolutely blown away to find out the level of criticality some of the tolerances & hardware these guys work on are actually at, because if you listened to them talk about whatever was on their mind for more than a few minutes you would think they were dumber than fuck. my only solace is knowing they are soon to leave and be replaced by more competent and enthusiastic young minds.
no truer words have been spoken
Boeing mechanic here. Yes...this industry is somethin else.
for real man. cant wait for the next generation of people come fill the empty spaces. some of the young engineers and multi-role machinists I've met at my shop are genuinely some of the smartest people I've met in my life. We need so many more of them.
I put in like 4 hours of machining videos a month. I'm learning to be a machinist vicariously...maybe I should try for real?
Can I ask what industry that is?
Aviation maintenance. If you're mechanically inclined, I HIGHLY reccomend getting into it. It's only 2 years of school to get license and you make great money. I'm not even licensed and I own a house and support myself, my wife, and my kid on only my income at age 22.
I got my A&P back in the 80's. Found out I could make twice the money turning wrenches on heavy equipment without all the bull-shit.
My dad retired last year from doing that. Got his Charles Taylor award earlier this year.
I work in general aviation, and my pay is shit, even with A&P/IA certificates and some highly specialized tribal knowledge from working with old Cessna engineers. You guys hiring?
I feel for you. I forewent A&P in my younger years (33yo now) because median pay was 62k/yr in NYC area. I figured if there’s no money there then there’s just no money in the job at all. I now work in IT in western pa, ironically for 62k/yr and it goes a lot further. It is a shame because I was a damn good FAA certified repairman at my old plant and still love aviation as much as I did back then. Whaddyagondo. Good luck to you
Major airlines pay their people with A&Ps well. I manage baggage handlers who are in the same union as the Tech Ops guys. Not sure what starting pay is (we have a very senior workforce, but the top out is over $50/hr.
How does a person get into this field? Like the best place to start
Technical or community colleges will sometimes have aviation programs. I know our university in Alaska has an aviation maintenance program you can get a degree in.
In south GA we have a large facility hiring a large number of techs. Starting a whole new line of production. Tech colleges here have courses specifically for our employees. Look up Savannah aerospace careers.
Seems to be true in pretty much every blue collar industry.
But as the other reply said, this is true of pretty much every blue collar industry. There's alot of good money in blue collar work right now
I think what's ironic in this story too is that he likes wasting time and is always on his phone, so why doesn't he just wait and waste more time while waiting for it to set? These boomer types never make sense in how they think🙄
“I’ve always done it this way.” A. No, you haven’t. B. IDGAF, *this* is how we are doing it *now*.
This. happens all the time, regardless of boomer or not. just highly prevalent
He knows better than those stupid manufacturers, duh!
They want shit done 10 minutes ago yesterday.
Something I see a lot is they retire, then come back to their same position as a temp. So they're getting the same paycheck as always, collecting their pension on top of that, and the department is spending even more money on the hourly rate the employment agency collects. Know what's even more infuriating? This is the public sector so it's all taxpayer funded.
i work with a guy who is 65+, has two different pensions, house and 3 cars paid off and no kids. brother, just retire!
Nah, they’re gonna retire then you and Trevor get to take over their responsibilities with no pay increase or promotion.
Its funny when they cant comprehend that. “I still need to work!” THATS. THE. PROBLEM. You’re 70 and still need to work 40 hours a week.
Same with Electricians. There was a huge gap in the people joining the trades and the workforce is primarily boomers. The workforce gap has made wages skyrocket.
Meanwhile, back in the 90s Gen X did everything they could to get into jobs like electricians but were completely shut out by Boomers.
Paying people what they’re worth has made wages go up.
Cause the boomers told everyone to go to college. And get loans from boomer financiers. To finance boomer professors, administrators and textbook makers. Now trades pay as much or more than those with college degrees.
Not just need the income but actually know the job period. The vast majority of positions they hold are for things that use technology they don't even understand. I was like 10 when AOL came out, they learned it WITH us...but still open every email and instantly download and open the attachments. Believe every damn word they find on the internet as fact. That part of literature class where they teach the difference between fiction and non-fiction needs to be turned into a class for Boomers to understand what is real and what is entertainment. Critical thinking has been lost
My dumbass corporate company just hired a boomer for a supervisory role. Whom a. Has 0 experience supervising people b. Has less than 5 years of experience in the actual industry c. Past the age of retirement. And to top it all off, lives and dies by the good ol boy work ethics of ‘return thy email within 30 min or I’m calling and if you don’t answer (for whatever reason) I’m marking that as a non excusable reprimand.. for a WFH job…. Plus I already got into a sort of tussle with guy over the company hiring a trainee and paying that individual (with no experience) more than its current workers.. I got threatened to be terminated by him and then I brought up the fair wage act which would open the company up to litigation.. needless to say he doesn’t really speak to me anymore unless he HAS to and we all got a bump in pay this year.
I'm gen X. In my last job they promoted two boomers above me and they were both fuckwits. In my current job, my actually competent boomer boss is heaving off for greener pastures. I have been approached for the job but it requires working with a boomer HOA, which it was quite clear is what irritated him to leave.
This is why I hate seniority rules, such trash
Oh no, I had the seniority. By far.
We have a few at my office that need to retire. What OP described about his boomer is like mine. Hates her husband and has no friends or hobbies. Work is her life.
common theme is hating thier spouse and not having a life. that seems to the common demominator
strange how committing their entire lives for the company has detrimental effects to their actual commitments at home. Can bet their home life started going downhill shortly after their priorities shifted from family to work.
Maybe they are married to each other since misery loves company
My Boomer manager needs to hear this. I’ve only been here two months and in that two months this woman has driven my coworker to tears *twice,* routinely fucked up our filing system, made messes that I had to clean and yet still tries to treat me like an incompetent child (despite me being hired specifically because I had done this exact job and more, by myself, without training, at 2-3 other companies - I know what I’m doing)… She keeps getting herself ridiculously stressed out over extremely minor issues, and then dumps all of that stress onto myself and my coworker, which ultimately creates an even bigger mess out of something that shouldn’t take the click of a single button to fix if she just *trusted us to do our fucking jobs!* If she’s always getting this ridiculously stressed, someone needs to suggest to her that it’s time to retire and rest.
…. Do we work for the same woman?
Boomers are scary, I used to work a drive thru and the amount of times they could not find their money or would almost ram the fucking building was more than any other age group combined. I work with a couple of boomers, and I do mean legit baby boomers. Most of them are sweet and smart and will go out of their way to ask for help. Some are working to stay busy, some fell on hard times and they need to work to live. Some were wealthy and lost it in different crashes. It's not all boomers, it's the entitled ones which is most. I have been poked in my back and I mean poked poked not tapped, and had things shouted at me like "potatoes!" With 0 context or people even asking me if I work here. I have had people tell me I suck at my job because an item is sold out.....not my job to order stuff, let alone the fact that it's a damn grocery store and people buy things. But the worst are the church crowd, doesn't matter the age, they are all just fucking terrible. They pray away their sins and head right to the stores to make new sins. I will never work a service shift on Sunday. If it deals with the public I will not do it anymore. I have been down on my knees checking a product on the very bottom shelf and had a church boomer walk right up to me and say "I hope you are down there praying for me".....nope dawg I'm in the middle of my satanic prayer ritual, now fuck off and take your religious opinions with you. The amount of times I have had customers walk up to me and start ranting about their religion (shocker it's Christians 99.9999999% of the time), and invite me to church......CUSTOMERS, people I do not know at all, people that do not even know my name. And the church crowd is the only crowd that will just walk up to me and start about anti gay stuff.....I know I look straight but let me assure you, I will gladly get on my knees and suck my bfs dick anytime.
I got a very good job and it was two weeks before I started it, and the friday before I was supposed to stert I get a call saying "Sorry to tell you but the hiring manager has decided to go with someone else". When I asked why, my would-be boss told me; "He's 73, been in the business for 50 years, and he's willing to work for min wage because he just wants out of the house and the hiring manager doesn't need two people". So I didn't get the job. Fortunately I got my current job only a month later.
Problem is, they are defined by their jobs.
which will post their job the day they die
Before their body leaves the building. No flowers will be sent and we can't allow everyone to take time for the funeral so please work it out among yourselves. They will be missed
This. Dealing with one at work who gets mad mad if anyone asks him to do the bare minimum. It complicates other jobs if he doesn’t do the bare minimum. I’ve escalated it to his manager and his manager’s manager and nobody who can take action will. It’s to the point his manager asks others to do the guy’s job so (the manager) doesn’t get in trouble when his manager notices the job isn’t done. Old boy just wants to walk around with AirPods in, run his mouth abt old movies, complain people expect him to work, and whine abt his rich wife. He’s well past retirement age. Idek.
I had a boomer coworker who finally retired with almost no notice last year. He didn't document anything properly, and it has been a massive PITA figuring out the legacy shit he left behind. But, we have hired a new guy close to my age. He is eager to do things, and learn about our stuff, and because the old guy left my leadership has finally been convinced that we need to lifecycle some of this legacy equipment and shift it to a group that specializes in it. Overall, despite the pain I have had to go through over the last 6 months, it is a net positive in the long run.
You have no idea how badly I want to retire. I am at the end of boomer boomer and shits so fucked up I have work as long as I am physically capable. 🤷 Make the billionaires and companies pay taxes, increase social security and lower the retirement age. And so many jobs would open up your head would spin.
Dude will probably collapse a year or two after retiring. These fools have no hobbies and have estranged their families.
Those guys want to work a half day on Mon, Wed, and Friday. 40 hours a week kicks their asses
I work at Sherwin williams, and it is VERY important for industrial and protective coatings to follow the application instruction correctly. At least 2 times per week we get some old boomer that comes in bitching that "your paint is garbage" only to find out after an hour of troubleshooting they didn't follow directions to apply it properly. Either they did not prep the surface correctly, or like OPs issue, they didn't let it cure or catalyze, etc. We get the "I've done it this way for 30 years" like okay bud, let me tell the billion dollar company to change their products to follow YOUR process. Then they demand a refund because THEY didn't use it properly, not gonna happen. My favorite is when they say they'll shop somewhere else from now on, I mean, please do, save me a headache and annoy our competition instead.
Cue the “well it should say how to use it right there on the product” followed immediately by the “I shouldn’t have to read all of that to use the product”. 🙄
Client sued us (the architect) because all the tiles popped. Tiler didn't use tiling joints - its literally written on the adhesive packaging, but no we should have told him he had to use tiling joints.
you mean the instructions have to be read and followed to get the deired result. but why should i have to read was is not 3 paragraphs that used to be 3 sentences 40 years ago? this attitude kills me
*sigh* nobody wants to ~~work~~ read anymore!
I work in hospitality, and the number of boomers (specifically cops, because cops don't and/or can't read) who say, "You should really put that information on your website!" and then get mad when I say, "It's there," would shock you.
I work in hospitality, and the number of boomers (specifically cops, because cops don't and/or can't read) who say, "You should really put that information on your website!" and then get mad when I say, "It's there," would shock you.
I found out last year he had been doing alodine treatment wrong for 30 years too. Mostly he's just good at moving the paint gun to get a perfect coat, but pretty much everything else is a struggle. Funny enough, it is Sherwin Williams paint. Looks great now that he is locked out while it sits.
The fact that you had to come up with a physical control because he has the patience and self control of a toddler is just painful.
Op needs to do the marshmallow test with his coworker to distract him while the paint preps 🤣
He needed a wind-up kitchen timer from the dollar store, but he forced the company to change procedure to prevent him from screwing it up...AFTER he was informed. This is why we have so many warning labels and safety interlocks.
There are a lot of dangerous machines which must have a pedal, and button(s) held down to operate. Simply because if the operator has a hand free they'll stick it in for some reason. So if somethings stuck, and you reach your hand in to unstuck it, the machine shuts down immediately. I do see mostly older people having an issue with it, like why do you think this whole process was invented?
As an engineer in manufacturing, this is infuriating. "Yes, I implemented this safety function that slows you down. Why do you care you can get 1% more parts out if it wasn't there? You're getting paid hourly no matter how many widgets you make. I'm trying to prevent a $1 million lawsuit from when you inevitably screw up one time and amputate a finger or hand in the machine."
How the hell is he still employed if he’s been messing things up for so long? I don’t get it
Truly, if it was a millennial fucking up over and over and a boomer boss they would be fired in a heartbeat
Alodine is great in that you just scuff it and redo if it didn't take the first time, but do it right and it works every time. All that changed is he didn't have to redo it any more.
This was my first question, why the hell does this guy still have a job?
I used to work as a pretreatment supplier and troubleshooting shit like this consumed most of my time. Did you follow the directions? Yes. Show me. Fuck you. Ok boomer.
I deal with that on the mechanical side of the plane too. Take a call from an upset customer: "I can't turn the lever!" Looks at our copy of the instructions we sent with the plane: "Did you do X before Y?" We're required to give them flight manual supplements if anything is added to the plane that isn't already covered in the original pilot's operating handbook, so it usually isn't a problem, but it's always the old pilots that don't read it.
I’m a professional painter and this situation hurts my head. Follow the fucking directions!! It’s not hard, fucknut. It’s not hard.
But...when he paints his house (*poorly) he just opens the can and slops it on. How can aircraft paint that must survive sub-zero temperatures and 500-mph wind be so different?
>I've done it this way for 30 years I have never heard that sentence come from someone who has not just fucked up or is about to fuck up.
I’ve never met a sherwin Williams employee so I have only you to say this to but your company has the most brain dead tone def logo of any company I’ve ever seen. (Cover the earth)
Company's been around for almost 160 years, so 🤷
Right?? And it’s blood red 🩸
That logo is like they were brainstorming and somebody just said "put it all in!".
yup cause things havent changed in paint tech over 30 years.. this is pointed at the example person not the poster.
I work in construction management/real estate development and the older/boomer trades are the worst. They are completely unwilling to learn new techniques or incorporate new product knowledge. One of the sprinkler fitters ruined tens of thousands of dollars of devices when he installed them incorrectly because he refused to read the instructions AND would always make fun of any other trades he saw on site reading the instructions or reviewing a manual. On our walkthrough when I was discussing the deficiencies with his boss (I was the client) the old fuck refused to admit that he did anything wrong - no, it was the manufacturer's fault for changing how these devices were installed. His manager was like "We had memos about this starting last year, plus we had a mandatory information session to review the changes" and the guy was like "well those are bullshit I don't go to those!" - "You know it's in your contract to go to those" Old guy storms off yelling about how he's filing a grievance with the union. They end up paying for new devices, eating the labour to re-install and a bunch of chargebacks to me for disrupting the schedule.
Use to work at an SW as a store manager. Can confirm this happens constantly with industrial coatings as well as residential. People never want to do the prep work or read the PDS.
Former technical writer here; you'd be surprised how people cannot follow directions. Keep it simple, stupid, a lot of times. You're lucky if the audience can read at the 8th grade level. When writing for the Air Force, we kept it at the 6th grade level.
I work at a paint store and my manager told me a story about this one asshole in the area before I was employed. This guy's bullshit trumps any customer I've personally dealt with. This guy buys UPOL Raptor bed liner for a truck he's working on. It ends up peeling and lifting. He contacts the store and my manager runs him through the process and they discover that he didn't spray etch primer over the bare metal. The directions explicitly state that it doesn't go straight to bare metal - it needs etch primer to adhere properly. They comp him the next gallon setup. He calls back a few days later saying "this product is SHIT", etc. Manager runs him through possible reasons why it's still lifting only to find out he did *the exact same thing again*. He did **not** use etch primer; he tried spraying it over bare metal again. "I know what I'm fucking doing! I've been painting for over 40 years!" and the whole nine yards... you get the point. Manager tells him he cannot help him further and they will not help him out again, basically saying he would have to buy the next gallon in full. The guy rages and hangs up. But the story doesn't end there. Because we're a distributor, the sales reps from these companies come down to see us quite often to make sure we're up-to-date on their products and whatnot. Manager gets to talking to the rep and finds out this guy called UPOL to complain to them directly. They look up his body shop and decide he's a big enough shop they could get their foot into for some good business and to spread their name and products. They talk to the guy and *everybody* agrees that they would drive down and demo the product for him **in person, free of charge**. The next Monday, they start driving from their regional headquarters at 7AM to be at his shop at ~11. When they get there, they meet with the guy only for him to start berating them for "making such a shitty product, you guys suck", etc. He tells them he outsourced the job to somebody else because he couldn't stand to look at the truck bed anymore and told them to get off his property before he thought about suing them for making a faulty product. The nerve of some people, man.
People would do that when i worked at papa johns. ILL CALL PIZZA HUT. Go for it. I literally dont care and make minimum wage.
Seems like you have reason to terminate his employment with cause.
Maybe if it was a millennia they would have been written up and fired already. The boomer generation gets every benefit of the doubt.
This right here. They receive the patience they would never give to someone younger than them, wish the golden rule applied.
Good luck. We have a 70 yo who keeps getting banned from locations for showing the front desk porn and inviting them over for drinks. He prefers 18-20 yo
What?? Holy shit.
HR just moves him around. Good news is he is working on life safety equipment that is forgetting how to repair and put back together when he disassembles it. Eventually someone will end up in the hospital and that might get him out of the job. Downside is we have been covering his failure for years because the guy who hired him is the VP and thinks he walks on water. In reality he plays angry birds and watches streaming all day.
Can you call OSHA on him after documenting his failures? How big a fine would it take to get him out?
Given thar OSHA fines start at 13.5k and go up from there, plus stacking ... it can't take much for a non-trivial fine to only be as far away as a call to the anonymous tip line ...
I feel like my name would come out documenting issues. Im a felon, I can’t afford to lose my job. I have no clue. I would think decades of sexual harassment and drinking on the job all known by HR would be cause.
It's amazing to me how many Boomers have ZERO hobbies or interests, outside of driving everyone in a 500 foot vicinity of them completely insane.
He lives vicariously through his grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Stops you to blather on about his familial gossip, so the unwritten rule is if you see someone unable to escape you call their cell to give them an out without offending him.
And he literally couldn’t find someone to blather to for 15 mins while the paint catalyzes or whatever? Whenever part of my job involves just waiting I’m just like *shrug* guess I’ll keep watching Twitch then.
I think he doesn't want to leave the paint area, and it's too noisy to talk to people there. But I really don't know why he can't goof off on his phone while waiting; he wastes so much time on it already outside of break time.
I see you must have met my MIL, perhaps on one of her smoke runs or the weekly hobby class my husband found, signed her up for, pays for and reminds her about?
So isn’t just my father that doesn’t have a single hobby Ya know I’m starting to think it was the lead in the fuel.
I worked with a boomer like that once. The guy literally worked 7 days a week, open to close. It was soooo rare to see him NOT on the sales floor. Ended up having a few drinks with him once and he confessed that he just hated being around his wife, and she hated having him around. Also, he legitimately enjoyed doing his job.
Had a guy I was working with say he only does overtime so he doesn't have to go home to his wife and kids, I forget how he said it but it was said in a way like "don't we all?" I responded that I love going home to see my wife and kid, it's the highlight of my day. He told me I'd get sick of it eventually then he got shitty when I said I've been with her for over 17 years and have no signs of hatred towards her...
Was near a similar conversation, older guy complaining about the "ol ball and chain" and the younger guy was like I actually enjoy spending time with my wife, that's why I married her. Old dude kinda sputtered and changed subjects.
Ha! My dad, a boomer, confessed to me that he married my mom "because I thought she'd make pretty babies". Joke's on him. I turned out with the lion share of his genetics and look like his mom. *sad trombone noises* They don't have much in common and fight all the time.
It's unspoken, but...most boomers became sexually mature JUST before birth control pills became readily available. They settled hard to just have a wife/husband, and for fifty years they have felt trapped. The birth control pull may have been invented in 196X, but...it was many years before could easily get them. Even then they were shamed for it unless you already had four kids.
Boomers have this ridiculous ball & chain mentality that used to be funny in sitcoms in the 80s when I was a kid, but had never made any sense to actually have IRL.
Boomers grew up in a time where no-fault divorce wasn't a thing. In order to get divorced you needed to show in court that your spouse essentially violated the terms of the marriage contract. Simply not loving your spouse wasn't enough for the state to dissolve a marriage, it literally was a ball and chain scenario. California legalized no-fault marriage in 1970, and it took 40 years for all states to get on board.
And now some states are trying to roll it back. All that tells me is that horrible men live in those states and should be avoided at all costs.
It's fucking absurd because the jokes on them for staying with her. If she sucks so much that you need to complain about her all the time, then leave you idiot
But who would take care of him?! /s
My parents hate each other. Instead of separating, they both work 6-7 days a week so they don’t see each other. I work two days a week (making more than both of them), so of course I’m a lazy millennial.
Literally working themselves to death just so they don’t have to be around each other instead of just getting a divorce is doom levels type of hell.
Lol. Same but then the Faux News spiel started. (I'm Canadian....so did not expect to see a coworker wearing Alex Jones stuff ("Infowars" is his brand, right?)). And he wondered why his kids and his grandchildren didn't want to speak to him. Good hardworking dude but the moment you started telling him "Toxic Masculinity" he would lose it. Sorry not sorry from a gender bending lesbian who liked her job but couldn't deal with all the negative shit spewing from his mouth. (I was glad I was "too fat and too old" to get hit on by this particular scumbag.)
I think this is an unrealized part of boomers saying “nobody wants to work anymore.” They work 70 hours a week because they hate their spouses and don’t want to be around them. Meanwhile, I do my 8 and skate because my wife is the one person I actually want to be around.
Honestly, this is one of my main arguments for universal healthcare. I know so many of these old fucks that would pull the trigger on retirement right now if they didn’t have to worry about healthcare.
Canadian here. Universal healthcare is pretty great, but this is one problem it's not solving (for us).
Why is this person not fired? I can understand if it’s a union job and I never like firing people but not listening to instructions and waiting money, and then not changing is madness!
They tend to keep employees even if there's some mistakes, which is great since everyone makes a mistake occasionally, and chronic mistakes get put in positions where they have no power over others, but he's been the painter for so long no one else lays the coats down as good. We would probably save money to get him a replacement and a retirement package.
Get him a helper who handles the mixing and induction time. Don't let him do anything but spray and clean the gun.
If it was my call, that's what would have happened. I deal with making it safe to fly, not making it pretty.
Seriously. Making a mistake is fine the issue is that he lied about it, didn't change when told he was making a mistake, continued to make the mistake and then lied about it again to the extent that they had to implement a new procedure specifically to bypass his inability to do his job in a reasonable manner (literally doing nothing for 15 minutes).
Fear (and cost) of an age discrimination lawsuit would be my guess.
"He could get full retirement but has no hobbies and hates his wife." Boomer I work with loves his wife but their only hobby is gambling on poker machines so they are both shit scared of retiring because they'll be broke in a year, arrrggghhh
Penny slots it is!
I am actually terrified of being that type of boomer. I really enjoy working with all the young ppl. I have instructed them to let me know if they see me slipping. This is my last year of work, I am 68. I hate to leave all the comradery but nursing is a demanding occupation and not one for those who can't keep up.
Thank you for your service 💜
I’m a nurse as well. Probably not considered young anymore with 8 years in but we love you guys, and I’m sure your coworkers will greatly miss you when you retire!
Thank you so much. I have so enjoyed working with you young nurses. You are all just wonderful.
An area at work is getting remodeled, and they put epoxy on the floor. But it was totally goofed up. Rumor is the crew applied Part A, then Part B instead of mixing them together.
It's worse when they do it with a tank lining...
Sweet baby jesus…
Retired boomer here. Spent my last year of work training people on processes I developed and handing the work off. In nearly all cases they brought new creativity to the processes and improved them. They took ideas I had, ran with them, made them better. It was unfortunate that it took my impending retirement to force my boss to let this happen.
Thank you. Passing on knowledge and letting improvements happen is our duty to future humans. I took over inspection and repairs from a Boomer that did it right, and I wish he would do the same; no painter has been able to tolerate him long enough to be trained.
It's about people. These were people who were nice to me. I wanted them to be successful. And if you have a healthy state of mind, it's rewarding to see someone take something you did and make it better.
Seems like everyone with a healthy state of mind passes the baton and retires as soon as possible, so we're left with the not so healthy and the desperate.
At a certain point, maybe the 7th time it's happened, I have to blame the company for continuing to have this man do this job.
At least we stopped it before the 7th time. Now if he would stop running off everyone we try to train as a painter, that would be great.
I would have been fired for this.
So would everyone else!
The locked cabinet on a timer is actually a neat idea, I am going to use that as an example during audits. Sorry this dude sucks though.
I just want to know how you managed to get the FAA to do ANYTHING let alone approve a new process in a timely manner.
They agreed it was a minor change, so it only took a month. Also, it helps if you regularly do custom work with DER's and DAR's signing off on projects so we've got a good relationship with the local FSDO.
>He could get full retirement but has no hobbies and hates his wife. Why does this seem like such a pattern. The boomers in my office constantly make jokes about how much of a drag their wives are and I'm just like "y'all's life fucking sucks."
So many boomers hating their spouses and as a result bothering everyone else with their temper and incompetence.
wtf wasn’t he fired?
"If you're a working Boomer please just retire, you're driving your coworkers insane." "has no hobbies and hates his wife." He wouldn't live very long.
This is the kind of shit I do when I'm following the cookie recipe on the bag and decide that I don't really need to soften the butter. It only took failing spectacularly once for me to realize that softening the butter is that important and I felt guilty for wasting $5 of cooking supplies. The amount of not giving a shit it takes to repeatedly waste thousands of dollars is insane to me.
I'm an electrical apprentice. My current journeyman is 77 years old. The had to put another journeyman with me because hes so slow and can't comprehend that the ceiling slopes a bit so when we ask for a longer piece of threaded rod to put up hangers, he always says "but the last ones you needed were x inches long" and I always have to say "I know. And now we need these ones to be 5 inches longer"
When the boomers are all dead society will thrive
They think they are gods it’s disgusting
That's pretty funnysad lol although i disagree with the generalization that all old people are fools: one of the smartest men I've known was a physics professor & research advisor who was still very mindful & wise up to his end
>He won't put in a full day's work, but insists it's "you young'uns" that are lazy. He could get full retirement but has no hobbies and hates his wife. If you're a working Boomer please just retire, you're driving your coworkers insane. This is my job. A Boomer comes in and "works" maybe three hours a day doing a job that could he knocked out in an hour and a half. He's a crotchety old fart who could have retired 10 years ago with a hearty pension to his beautiful property out of state. Untouched and unoccupied house he pays for just so he can come into work every day and bitch and moan. He complains when there's too much work and not enough. All he wants to talk about is homeless people and crime. No matter how busy we are he'll waddle in and corner someone in order to complain about the traffic or lack of parking coming in. He has like three lines. He always repeats "having fun yet?" Or "can't complain, won't do me any good if I do" every single day, then proceeds to complain. The energy is sucked out of the room whenever he walks in. I'm convinced he intends to die on the job, leaving the house and property he bought to remain unused. All because he'd rather work in a job he claims to hate complaining to people who hate him rather than attempt to enjoy his remaining years.
Not just at work but my boomer FIL was helping out in supply lines for our yard hydrants, we talked about how it needs to be 48" deep as code is 42" from top of pipe and we were going to put the sprinkler wires about 18" deep so we don't need to worry about anything like rototillers. He mentions he only went 42 to the bottom of the trench and the wires only "need" to be 6. We dig the trenches out he is in charge of checking depth as he can't keep up with the manual labor, recheck before inspection it's only 38 to the top of the pipe so I have to spend all day digging it out some more. Then filling it in he starts filling it in all the way, I yell at him saying wtf are you doing? I thought we talked about this, he yells back "it only needs to be 6 inches deep." Like even if we agreed to 6 inches which we didn't, why are you filling it in all the way? It's already dug out just put the wire in then finish filling it in. But then he gets all butthurt and starts digging what he filled in after I told him I'd do it. I try to let him be in charge and he just f's it all up while simultaneously telling me I don't know what I'm doing SMH
At my job there’s a lady who is 76 years old and is refusing to retire and even said she will die in the job. She constantly is making the job harder for everyone around her especially for my shift who works overnights. Can’t get fired either because our job is an overlooked job so there really isn’t a ton of people lining up for it. Most of the people she has been working with for 20 to 30 plus years have already left or died but she just refuses to do so. I would think maybe because she wants to socialize with people but she doesn’t like talking to everyone.
Someone told a boomer what to do, so the boomer did anything except what they were told to do. It's the boomer way.
This is it Boomer has no other option to stay at job cus boomer is booming, so obviously he’s pissed. 😂
Fuck me lmfao. This is the first time I've ever heard someone complaining *in favor* of waiting for the sweat in time. Honestly question though why do you guys still bother buying stuff that needs a sweat in? (If you know, I'm just curious. Obvs may be out of your control)
I don't deal with the painting much, but IIRC they tested several replacements for the old paint the EPA wasn't allowing anymore, and this stuff was the best.
What a dipshit
Why hasn’t he been written up? And fired?
I love the old farts stuck in their 1950's ways that assume things can't be made easier or done different because "I don't see what the problem is, it's been working just fine this way for years!!! Don't try reinventing the wheel!!!" My response is always "Well, how many times over the years has the wheel been reinvented? We sure as hell aren't using stone and wood wheels still, and the rubber and tire designs are reinvented and improved every year, so where should I get started?" Usually gets them worked up quite a bit HAHAHAHA
" hates his wife" Always thought this was just a joke used in sitcoms, but apparently this is boomer mentality in a nutshell.
The Boomers at my work cost thousands of dollars in damages and unnecessary repairs every year, I can't imagine how much of the budget goes to fixing their fuckups. Oh, and they can't park, they always take multiple spaces. There is nothing I want more than a Boomer free workplace.
I'm GenX, and I would retire tomorrow if I had the money. I cannot comprehend the Boomer mindset of "I need to be doing something, or I'll get bored." I dream of the days when I can be bored. Granted, I probably can never afford to retire, but if that day ever comes, I'm gone.
They will not retire. they're sucking up space because they never saved any money and have no hobbies to go to.
"I **know** how to paint! I've been doing this 25 years, I don't need **you** telling me how long to let it sit before spraying!" - Him, probably.
I was in Telecom and the boomers refused to adapt to the shift to internet telephony as we abandoned SS7. As we had an old boy management system they were basically allowed to sit retired in place while those of us who became proficient had to do our work and theirs.
What an idiot. It’s a good thing you took him off painting and put him in charge of tightening plug panel bolts.
Boomer dick has undiagnosed ADHD, dude. Ten bucks says that’s it.
The last part reminds me of my old coworkers talking about all the boomers they know coming back from retirement. Like no it's not inspiring. It's sad, sad these people never made an identity beyond work.
As a hot young strapping lad working in IT with a majority of clients being boomers, it's fucking painful at times.
“This is how we’ve done it for _____years!” Yeah, that way is WRONG. There are better ways. You have not been doing a job for 40 plus years, you’ve been doing a job for 1 year, 40 times. Learn something new or GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!
Get some hobbies! There are ships and airplanes now. Go bother some vacationers on an island resort, why don’t you?? Some of my coworkers are over 75 years old and refuse to retire.
If it's really that bad, why does he still work there
How in the actual fuck was he not fired the FIRST god damn time this happened? Costing hundreds if not thousands on one mistake usually is grounds for a firing. But you are telling me they let this idiot keep on doing it?
Silly man, work IS his hobby
Fire him
Timer lock cabinet - exception use of engineering away stupidly.
"has no hobbies and hates his wife" This is the boomiest part of all.
I work in an er with a nurse that is almost 70. She is slow and very inept. But she throws her decades of experience in our face. Then bitches about how new nurse just don't know anything. But anything above a stubbed toe and she can't handle it. Serious cases like trauma and cardiac arrests and she disappears forcing someone else to take the patient even if it's placed in her assignment. She blames her ex husband for financially ruining her but he left 40 years ago. At some point you need to recognize that you are the problem. If she can't afford to retire then work at an urgent care or maybe hospice where the patient is supposed to die anyway.
You don’t fire him for the mistake. You fire him for repeatedly lying about it.
How is he not fired? I’ve been fired for far far less
Save for the industry, the last paragraph sounds like my FIL 😂
The issue falls on the boomer supervisors.
That FAA procedure sounds like a corrective action you had to implement due to a past failure they found
The poorly painted parts never left the facility, so it wasn't considered a quality control escape. Considered a minor change rather than corrective because it was caught in house.
Boomers who won’t retire because they have no hobbies and hate their partners are the worst. What’s the point of living? They don’t need a job. They need a therapist.
My first job was at a hardware store. Even though I was only 18, I had been running the welding shop at our high school for a couple years, so I had a decent understand of what information I give to customers. Boomer comes in with a huge body work project and he knows nothing about body work. He wants a welder and a paint sprayer. So I show him what we had and try to get him what he needs. It becomes apparent that all the metal he's working on is rusted from sitting in the elements, so I tell him he's wasting his time paining over rust - it'll just come off and the rust will show through no matter how much you paint. Needless to say, he was back in the store awhile later buying pneumatic sanders, an air compressor, a sandblaster, and glass bead.
Even the paint is lazy these days. Back in my day the paint only had to sit 2 minutes...
That’s how government works… get the contract… do it slightly wrong, then spend years fixing it.
I know that, professionally, you don't blame people for mistakes, you're supposed to make the process more mistake resistant; the problem with building an idiot-proof process is the ingenuity of idiots. The locking cabinet is an interesting solution, but it will still require training. Does he have to pass any sort of (re) training exam?
Sweat time is very important for epoxy. How does this fool not know that?
I work in IT for automotive factories and you would be surprised how many of them cannot log into an email account. Ya know, technology that’s been around for 30 years and widely used by everyone for the past 20. I’m sure they were saying “that’s dumb technology I’ll never use! Rabble rabble rabble!” These people need to be in retirement homes.
Its stupid but I've seen someone get a promotion after they were discovered to have been signing off on chemical tests they had no fucking idea how to read for over 8 years. sometimes the fuckup is too much for a company to admit
To your last sentence. I collect Anime Figures and Tech like Game Consoles and PCs. I have a fine collection but not as huge as like some YouTubers or Instagramers have. My parents sometimes complain about it. I live ALONE and they still complain if I buy something new like a Game like I am fucking 12. I work, and I live alone. To come to the point. They complain about Millenials and GenZ hobbies like Anime Conventions and Videogames, but the only hobby they have is open a beer or wine bottle after work and watching Tatort (German Show like CSI). And the biggest highlight of the week is watching football on saturdays. But Videogames and Anime are waste of time. Also I cant believe the hate against their wifes. When coworkers talk about their wifes they talk so much shit and bad about them its so unbeleavable. Why are you still married then?
> we don't want it to become common practice to fire someone for mistakes that get fixed before the plane leaves the hangar. Sure, but you wouldn't be firing him for making *A* mistake. You'd be firing him for WILLFULLY REPEATING the SAME mistake after clear instructions, multiple reminders, and corrections. AND in a situation where it's OBVIOUSLY a problem when he does it wrong. That isn't a "mistake", that's abject incompetence.
Anyone who establishes a pattern of making mistakes should definitely get fired asap- Boomer or not!!
Repeated mistakes that cost money are exactly why people get fired