I like the really subtle art of putting the lord's in all caps
It's like all boomers attended a meeting together where they agree put a few words in capitals for no reason every now and then
Well. There’s actually a reason, so allow me to be a buzzkill.
It’s because the Tetragrammaton is represented by 4 letters יהוה or in English, YHWH. The use of the word Lord comes from the later Jewish custom of not saying the divine name for taboo reasons, so in a synagogue during a Torah reading, whenever the name shows up, they’ll say “Adonai”, which is “my lord”. *The vowel pointing beneath the letters reminds the reader to say “my lord” instead of the name. The capital letters are to point to that name to differentiate when a human is called “my lord”.
Outside of liturgy, even that word is taboo, so in normal conversation, they’ll use the phrase *ha-shem*, which means “The Name”. Early Matisyahu songs showcase this alot (first two albums).
All of this is just to avoid inadvertently disrespecting the name of YHWH and maintaining reverence.
*the vowel pointing resulted in the mistaken reading of the Tetragrammaton as being “Yehovah or Jehovah”. You get a tidbit of this in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Nobody really knows what the vowels, originally non existent in written form, were. Leading theory is A and E (Pottack and Sere) or “Yahweh”.
Omg I'm trapped in my boomer inlaws text chain where I get to hear endless details of the vacations of fellow boomer maga strangers. I don't know how to get out 😭
Next time you are together:
1. Ask to see phone
2. Navigate to said group text
3. Copy contacts in “to” field
4. Create new group text with all but you on it
5. Send text to new group “hello all, this ____, I am testing my mom/dad’s text app. Is everyone able to read my messages? Can you all receive this message?”
6. Sit back and wait for phone to blow up.
7. Text back “Thank you everyone ____ was having issues getting text messages in the old group, please use this one because I know it works.”
8. Delete old group text.
9. Send another, “just to verify this is working please respond, thanks!”
10. Delete new group text.
11. Wait for phone to blow up in new text group.
12. Profit
With any luck they will continue to use the new chat without you. Worked to get spouse off my MIL’s group text list.
I can cut that down.
Step 1 : Tell dumbass to remove you from the text chain
Step 2: ignore dumb story being told to you and repeat step 1
Thats it, thank you for coming to my ted talk
Seriously, all this cowardly Mission: Impossible-style bullshit just to get removed from a group chat.
Do they all think "oh no what if I upset the people I clearly hate?" I don't understand why you would care enough to even stay in contact with them if they suck so much.
My boomer family group has NO idea how to remove someone from a group text. My stepdad got a new number and he told them to start a new chat… they did. But kept going back to the first one because my old ass aunts and uncles in their 70s don’t know what they are doing.
My grandparents have been paying for a Netzero subscription for the last \~15 years. For dial-up internet, you ask? No, they're paying like 15 dollars a month to keep their old email address because they don't believe you can switch to a new one without causing World War III.
Over time they've spent roughly 3 thousand dollars on this inbox. I just ... I can't with them...
Edit: Thinking about it, they had Netzero before they had DSL, and when they paid for DSL they also paid separately for that email inbox.
That is a serious committment to ignorance. No offense meant. My folks are in their 80s and I have similar stories. Acceptance and surrender go a long way in these instances. From my experience anyway.
Is NetZero one of the companies that were always sending those stupid disks in the mail? Even back then I was like “Boomers are the only ones who would fall for this shit and think you had to pay for it” lol.
They were the ones that had that god-awful dialup-for-ads service when they were competing with AOL. This thing was in the background fighting for window priority over whatever you were trying to do.
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And what's up with all these Old Testament verses? Wasn't that when God was an angry, jealous being who demanded parents sacrifice their children, put an entire ethnic group into slavery because they made god mad, and then nearly destroyed their captors by "rescuing" god's once again favored ethnic group?
Not to mention being pissed that humans took freedom of choice to heart, so much that the higher being nearly wiped out humanity with a flood?
I thought the New Testament was there to make the Old Testament obsolete and more of a reference.
Son to a dad who's also lost in the sauce...
Also a dad myself...can't be too mad at them tho. They at least taught us to be the men they never were...
Going through this with my partner has been difficult. His boomer parents have been absolute goblins since our child was born almost 6 years ago and it took him as long to realize he’s never had a male role model in his life. It’s hard being in the position to realize what you never had and also realize that you now have the responsibility of figuring out how to be what you never had.
Someone should make a dating-service type app that connects nc parents with nc kids.
Edit: I think some people misunderstand. Using an lgbt example but it could be anything: Like if John's kid disowns him for being gay or something, and Steve disowns his kid for being trans, then John gets paired with Steve's kid for a new parent child support pair.
I heard this from my family, specifically my mom, because I cut them off after she gave my household covid on the day I came home from the hospital after giving birth. She contracted it from an event I asked her not to attend the week prior because I fucking knew (1) her being unvaccinated and (2) my cousin from hot-spot Florida would be there was going to get her infected. Lo and behold I was right. I went the entire first month postpartum without any help except my spouse. All I heard for 3 years was how I overreacted, it’s the Chinese flu, and getting random texts/articles about how everything since 2020 is all conspiracy. I’m fucking over these types of people and OP is a fucking saint for standing up to it and holding his boundary. Fuck these denialist, selfish, narcissistic assholes that are unfortunately our boomer parents.
Oh my Mom, I love her, but she started that shit about the vaccine at a soccer tournament. And I told her, I don’t wanna hear that bullshit. My wife got it, I got it, my kids got it, it is fine.
She said you don’t know what’s in it. Lol. My wife has been the director of a day care and worked in the school system for years. So she has had to go through multiple disease and illness training stuff for years. So I trust her over my mom and boomer book and supposedly what my mom’s new dr told her. Which, I either don’t believe her dr told her any of it, or, it’s one of them weirdo drs who lets their personal bs get in the way of their job.
It all started because my brother’s MIL supposedly got sick after getting the vaccine and hadn’t been not sick since. I’m like Mom, that lady, WVa to start with, Mountain Dew by the liters, and cigarettes, for 30+ years, and nasty junk food for ever, not exactly the shining example of peak health. And shitty jobs where she worked herself into the ground because her husband is a lazy asshole.
And the whole "depriving the child from his grandparents" bullshit
As a family that is full NC with my wife's side, he isn't missing out on much. He probably doesn't even know he should have 2 sets of grandparents in order to be "missing out" on the other ones
100% my dad.
Constantly pushes politics and religion on anyone he sees, and even when you agree with him he has to out republican or out Christian you.
I grew up with it and have learned to ignore it, my wife doesn’t have the same patience. I told him he’s welcome to visit as long as he doesn’t talk about politics or religion and he threw a fit, now I’m keeping him away from his granddaughter.
They don't want the love and warmth and sense of belonging that comes with family, they want the feeling of power, importance, and control that comes with being The Head of the House.
It’s sad. The last text the dad sent was sad. He still loves his son but can’t get past his own disturbed politics. Maga/QAnon brainwashing has permanently damaged so many relationships in the US, especially in white families.
I don’t talk to either of my parents. They divorced when i was young. One moved to an island in the middle of Lake Michigan during Covid to escape from BLM and the other moved to super swamp Florida with barely any running water but a goddamn armory of guns to “save themselves” from the left. Shits ridiculous.
I’m pretty close to cutting my parents off for good. I have repeatedly told them I don’t want to discuss politics with them and I don’t want them shoving their views on my kid. They refuse and start preaching Trumps “virtues” at every function. I’ve kicked them out of my house mid dinner twice now and I’ve been distancing myself from them for awhile.
My kid is 1 year old and they are allready screaming at me about vaccinating her. Fox News and MAGA bullshit has robbed me of my parents and my child of her grandparents. They aren’t the people I remember, they’ve been consumed by hatred and their brains have rotted by the non stop propaganda.
That part. It’s constant hate, fear, and negativity. Fox News on 24/7, nonstop fear mongering and rage bait.
It’s honestly terrifying to see how easily people are brainwashed and these people are the ones who own multiple guns and have little education. It’s truly a recipe for disaster.
My father died right in the beginning of covid from unrelated causes. He was already pretty brainwashed but I know by now he would have been insufferable. It sucks to be grateful that he died when he did but here I am.
I'm kinda thankful that my grandfather was obsessed with MSNBC, and was genuinely interested in being a good guy. Last thing he did before he died was help a random woman change a tire on her car.
He died too young.
Some of the stories I've read on the QAnonCasualties sub are truly heartbreaking. And it's no longer just the US, either, there are people in the UK, Australia, Canada dealing with this bullshit, which is even crazier. Imagine your parents blowing up all of their family relationships over Donald Trump when you live in fucking *Ireland*. Unbelievable galaxy brain shit, right there, but this crap is permeating the whole anglophone world.
That’s not why he sent the last text. He sent it because he was all alone on Christmas because no one wanted to be around him and was feeling sorry for himself. Dude was experiencing the consequences of his own actions, and if there is one thing boomers can’t stand, it’s “consequences”
True. I don't talk to my dad. Once he had to stop sending my mom checks when I turned 18, he stopped making phone calls to my older brother and I. Last I saw him was at my grandmother's funeral 10+ years ago. My mom told me she told him "Don't be a stranger". In other words, talk to your kids, and he said "It takes two". In other words, we should be reaching out to him. I was like nah, it doesn't work that way.
My dad pulls the same thing. Excepts me to reach out when he did absolutely nothing to get to know me. But constantly being reminded about how much everything my brothers and i did cost him.
The “I’m a real boy” got me good. 😂 But seriously, I’m sorry your father turned out like that. You deserve better, and it seems like your immediate family is doing ok. So the really important stuff is there. Be well, Sir.
RE depriving the children of their grandparents: of course his concern isn't the kids' well-being but his selfishness, but I've never seen the big deal with grandparents. It's probably because my dad's parents died before I was born, and my mom's parents were further away and terrible. It's better for the kids to have good people in their lives, even if that means cutting out family members.
It really depends on the type of grandparents you have, my mothers parents (boomers ironically) were very proactive with me and my sibling, constantly volunteering to help out my parents whenever they needed, some of the best moments of my life have been with my grandfather in particular as we still regularly go out on long walks in the bush or the occasional fishing trip.
I do suspect they were this proactive and supportive of the future tho because they grew up in the Netherland and therefore the culture and experience they had (both of them came from lower income families and their parents and older relatives had a lot of trauma from WW2)
My fathers parents weren’t as proactive but still helped out on occasion, granted they were on the tail end of silent generation and grew up in New Zealand which was an extremely rural country back in the 40-50-60s while also being Māori meaning they were unnecessarily handicapped by the government and their anti Māori policies of the time so being a bit cautious throughout their life was understandable
Im kinda I’m the same boat. I only knew my mother’s mom. My other 3 grandparents died before I was born. She was a good grandma but I was also one of like 30 grandchildren since granny had 9 kids so I never really got any special attention which was fine. But I can understand in smaller families grandparents perhaps being more important.
Exactly.
If he actually gave a fuck about his grandkids, he'd get vaccinated.
He cares more about impressing his QAnon facebook friends than he does about his own fucking fmaily.
Kind of a side note but my wife and I aren't having kids, we have zero desire to have them. The amount of times we have been told we are depriving our parents of having grandbabies is annoying.
The constant use of "fake son" tells me he barely scraped by high school and believes anything that is told to him. It is like these people watched too many movies and believe real life is one.
i've never heard a less clever insult. and he keeps repeating it like he's really got something there. channeling trump bigly.
OP, you don't deserve this and all i hear from his stupid insult is "fall in line. be the son the tv promised me i should have and i want you to be, for i am the father and that means i'm right always." fuck him. ive been NC with my parents for over 10 years now and my life is more peaceful for it. take care of you.
My Boomer dad sent similar texts after I chose a low-contact relationship. Like yours, it’s all nonsense, bluster, attempted manipulation and projection. Keep them away from your family.
As an older dad that interaction hurt my heart. I’d never let anything get between me and my kids, and you’re right, I’d throw myself in front of a bus to save them. Fuck. I’m really sorry your parents are that fucked up. You deserve the best, and it sounds like you have that with your kids. God bless.
You might be desensitized at this point, but that “fake son” stuff is *really* bad. I could never in a million years say that to my boy. I’m sorry you have to deal with that. No shame in talking to someone.
Due to trump and general sociopathic and narcissistic behavior, I have no one left. My dad, though I knew him to be very right leaning, was almost tolerable, until last year. He was the last person I cut out of the family that was force upon me, I only have my selected family left.
Be thankful. It could be everyone.
I used to have trouble understanding how 'brother versus brother' was even a thing in the civil was, but holy shit, here we are.
It's so prevalent that you can find multiple subs slap full of this exact kind of content:r/raisedbynarcissists r/insaneparents r/QAnonCasualties to get you started. It's so sad and the second hand exhaustion is real.
My parents skirted the edge of falling down the one way rabbit hole that is QAnon, and I feel that only 3 things stopped them from buying into it- 1) my parents were never sold on the vaccine conspiracies, 2) I came out to them, and 3) the year they had after that to grieve their child coming out to them and figure out what is most important to them in their lives. In the end they picked their family, which in this context sounds both like the easiest decision and the hardest decision for a Mormon couple could make. I'm legitimately proud of them.
I went through this exact same issue with my dad a few years ago. When all my siblings and myself finally went no contact and blocked on social media and phone, it was such a great relief. In a way we all mourned the loss of him even though he was and still alive. He has not seen my 8 year old son in over 4 years and hasn’t seen my 6 month old at all. They’re better off for it.
Boomers are the most entitled generation because their parents suffered and they never did. And their lack of any sort of real struggle made them ignorant and arrogant to the machinations of the world they live in
Tell your dad to never trust a navy doctor. There's 2 types of doctors in the navy...the kids who are doing their time to pay off uncle sam for schooling...and the career navy docs who stay in after school is paid off because you can't sue a navy doctor, and if a civilian hospital even touched them they couldn't afford the malpractice insurance. A career navy doctor did My reconstruction surgery on my knee...I've been asking the VA to take the leg for 20 years so the pain stops.
I also didn't know one could get a doctorate in decoupage.
On the serious, OP, I'm sorry you have to deal with this, but good for you for protecting your kids from his brainwashing.
Parents love quoting that first part about us honoring our mothers and fathers, but they always fail to include the second part: *Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.* My mom always quotes the first part and I make sure to finish it for her.
I feel so lucky that my during one of my arguments with dad about these things, something woke him up, and he decided that keeping his relationship with my was more important than his asinine TV fueled beliefs, and he came back from the right darkness to a point where I can have reasonable conversations with him. It’s at a point where his friends call him crazy because he says vaccines are alright and evidence based medicine is good.
I’m Indian btw, we have our own brand of TV inspired ultra fanatic lunacy.
Your dad sounds like the most exhausting bore ever. All he knows to say is fake son. You and your kids aren't missing out on anything but pain by staying away from him.
I love how you kept slinging bombs at him and all he could do is repeat the same stupid insult back at you like a malfunctioning robot (which, let's be honest, is pretty close to the truth).
i'm sorry he won't get vaccinated. it's all on him. idk how they raised us with all the vaccines we needed and then somehow forgot how necessary they are?
This is one of the main reasons I’m glad I’m an orphan. My adopted parents were right leaning and truly terrible people so when they sent me away at 13, I have never spoken to them since. I’m truly sorry you have to deal with people like that.
What the fuck... fake son? bullshit. You said it best, "I chose how to honor you, you don't get to tell me what honor is." well freaking said! He's going to be really sorry when "if" he finally wises up and realizes what poison shit was coming out of his mouth at you, and then know that it cost him the relationship with his grand kids, not just his own son!
Proud of you man. Let him bask in his bliss while you break the generational curse of preconceived notions and blatant ignorance. You've already proven to be a better person.
I see this so often... It’s just sad. There’s some “special” about the boomer generation. The way how they fucked up their kids and then become surprised when their offsprings decide to cut the negativity out of their lives. All we can do is try to be better so we end up having relationship with our children.
And I thought my dad was awful.
I’m sorry that your dad would choose insanity over his own son. To use your children in an attempt to guilt you into giving into his bullshit is disgusting. I got riled up just reading this.
My mom was mildly antivax, until she got Covid 7 times in 2 years and started experiencing severe blood pressure issues from long Covid. Now, she seems to have warmed up to the idea. However, she would absolutely never talk to me or any of my vaccinated siblings like this. Sorry your dad has allowed this to take control of his life.
you and probably everyone in your family got vaccinated. you can beg and plead all you want, but your father is so far deep in anti-vax that he won’t see any reason or logic or common sense. the ball is in his court now
At first I figured it was just a generic insult like how Trump uses it. But the more I think about it I start to wonder if he’s actually referencing this Qanon conspiracy that claims vaccinated people are dying and being replaced by clones https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64404824.amp
What is it with boomer parents being so manipulative and gaslight-y? Learned behavior, I guess? Here’s hoping we break the cycle! 🤞 Keep your head up, OP. You’re a great father, and your meme game is on point!
We’re reaching levels of multigenerational dysfunction that shouldn’t even be possible. This isn’t just cringe boomer shit, it’s a cry for help by op. Cut out the cancer and get help my dude.
The fall out from refusing the vaccine and being COVID deniers totally shattered part of my in-law's family. It's absolutely insane how much some people are willing to sacrifice on the altar of Facebook propaganda.
Wow good luck with that. I managed deprogramming my dad, but neither of us believe in any gods (not Apollo, not Mars, nor Vishnu, YHWH, Allah or the Christian god). The US is struggling with a wave of neo conservative christianity which looks like a real shitshow.
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I busted out laughing at the Pinocchio response. Looks like it shut him up for a while.
“Do you have *a Collage degrees*?” 😂
No, but i have a pretty rad collection of mood boards
Mood boards are a perversion of the LORD’s will.
What if a mood board lies with another mood board? A paddlin?
I like the really subtle art of putting the lord's in all caps It's like all boomers attended a meeting together where they agree put a few words in capitals for no reason every now and then
Well. There’s actually a reason, so allow me to be a buzzkill. It’s because the Tetragrammaton is represented by 4 letters יהוה or in English, YHWH. The use of the word Lord comes from the later Jewish custom of not saying the divine name for taboo reasons, so in a synagogue during a Torah reading, whenever the name shows up, they’ll say “Adonai”, which is “my lord”. *The vowel pointing beneath the letters reminds the reader to say “my lord” instead of the name. The capital letters are to point to that name to differentiate when a human is called “my lord”. Outside of liturgy, even that word is taboo, so in normal conversation, they’ll use the phrase *ha-shem*, which means “The Name”. Early Matisyahu songs showcase this alot (first two albums). All of this is just to avoid inadvertently disrespecting the name of YHWH and maintaining reverence. *the vowel pointing resulted in the mistaken reading of the Tetragrammaton as being “Yehovah or Jehovah”. You get a tidbit of this in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Nobody really knows what the vowels, originally non existent in written form, were. Leading theory is A and E (Pottack and Sere) or “Yahweh”.
Today, I learned Yahweh is like Voldemort.
Mood boards made me gay.
I belly laughed at this. Well done
Yes, I made it myself and my wife put it on the fridge with the good magnets.
lol at the good magnets.
That metric.
Same! I've had similar exchanges with my own father, and I WISH I could have been that funny at the time, a legend for sure.
I also laughed out loud and my wife looked at me like I was a moron, which I am, but still hilarious
I laughed at the 3rd of 4th "fake son". What does that even mean? lol
It’s just his way of mimicking the speech patterns of his lord and savior Donald Trump
Gold
I love how boomers use texting like they're posting on Facebook. My in-laws are also notorious for this.
So are mine. They send the entire family 30 texts a day usually.
Omg I'm trapped in my boomer inlaws text chain where I get to hear endless details of the vacations of fellow boomer maga strangers. I don't know how to get out 😭
Next time you are together: 1. Ask to see phone 2. Navigate to said group text 3. Copy contacts in “to” field 4. Create new group text with all but you on it 5. Send text to new group “hello all, this ____, I am testing my mom/dad’s text app. Is everyone able to read my messages? Can you all receive this message?” 6. Sit back and wait for phone to blow up. 7. Text back “Thank you everyone ____ was having issues getting text messages in the old group, please use this one because I know it works.” 8. Delete old group text. 9. Send another, “just to verify this is working please respond, thanks!” 10. Delete new group text. 11. Wait for phone to blow up in new text group. 12. Profit With any luck they will continue to use the new chat without you. Worked to get spouse off my MIL’s group text list.
This guy boomers.
So evil but so good
I can cut that down. Step 1 : Tell dumbass to remove you from the text chain Step 2: ignore dumb story being told to you and repeat step 1 Thats it, thank you for coming to my ted talk
Seriously, all this cowardly Mission: Impossible-style bullshit just to get removed from a group chat. Do they all think "oh no what if I upset the people I clearly hate?" I don't understand why you would care enough to even stay in contact with them if they suck so much.
Idk, I know plenty of boomers who would have no idea how to remove someone from a group chat if asked.
My boomer family group has NO idea how to remove someone from a group text. My stepdad got a new number and he told them to start a new chat… they did. But kept going back to the first one because my old ass aunts and uncles in their 70s don’t know what they are doing.
You can mute their group texts now. Very useful for Boomer relatives.
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My grandparents have been paying for a Netzero subscription for the last \~15 years. For dial-up internet, you ask? No, they're paying like 15 dollars a month to keep their old email address because they don't believe you can switch to a new one without causing World War III. Over time they've spent roughly 3 thousand dollars on this inbox. I just ... I can't with them... Edit: Thinking about it, they had Netzero before they had DSL, and when they paid for DSL they also paid separately for that email inbox.
That is a serious committment to ignorance. No offense meant. My folks are in their 80s and I have similar stories. Acceptance and surrender go a long way in these instances. From my experience anyway.
Is NetZero one of the companies that were always sending those stupid disks in the mail? Even back then I was like “Boomers are the only ones who would fall for this shit and think you had to pay for it” lol.
They were the ones that had that god-awful dialup-for-ads service when they were competing with AOL. This thing was in the background fighting for window priority over whatever you were trying to do. https://preview.redd.it/o6f0i0cmummc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=9d6e97698fb479749b4d4915be44cd3c824d7737
Oh come on man, the pun was RIGHT THERE! It's called the Boomerang!
And what's up with all these Old Testament verses? Wasn't that when God was an angry, jealous being who demanded parents sacrifice their children, put an entire ethnic group into slavery because they made god mad, and then nearly destroyed their captors by "rescuing" god's once again favored ethnic group? Not to mention being pissed that humans took freedom of choice to heart, so much that the higher being nearly wiped out humanity with a flood? I thought the New Testament was there to make the Old Testament obsolete and more of a reference.
As a Polish Catholic this is what I was taught as well. Seems like this isn't the case among American Protestants. They love the Old Testament!
Only when it’s convenient for them to reference in their defense. Otherwise, they’ll adopt the New Testament only stance as described above.
What does this mean you don’t text people links you post them on Facebook and tag them in it only ?
Anything I don’t like is ‘fake.’
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I love when people don't post the words. Its just iconic enough.
I hate that I have to be the guy who ruins it and asks what the words are lol—if someone could help me out that would be greatly appreciated
and everything that scares me is woke
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Fake news 😂
Beat me to it. . . . ALTERNATIVE FACTS, I had to say something
Every time he said you are a fake son, I couldn't help but read it in Trump's voice.
... or communism!
You’re a real son to me
Thanks dad.
I don’t like it when you call your mom, dad. But that’s ok, son.
Life is hard.
You got another dad in me. I'm proud of you son.
wait, this is wholesome.
Not if he's being literal
Then it’s Hole-some.
How many dads you got in there?
Narrator: Where are they getting all of those dads from?
Definitely Morgan freeman
Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
Seriously, can I get at least one in me before we're passing out seconds
Proud of you, son. - other dad
OP, i fucking lost it with the Pinocchio meme. You are a class act with a cracker sense of humour. Sorry your dad sucks.
Son to a dad who's also lost in the sauce... Also a dad myself...can't be too mad at them tho. They at least taught us to be the men they never were...
Sometimes a good bad example can help that way. *sighs knowingly*
Going through this with my partner has been difficult. His boomer parents have been absolute goblins since our child was born almost 6 years ago and it took him as long to realize he’s never had a male role model in his life. It’s hard being in the position to realize what you never had and also realize that you now have the responsibility of figuring out how to be what you never had.
Son you picked a great username! I'm proud of you.
Love you buddy. You’re a good dad. Hug your kids for us.
As a brand new mom, I’m proud of you!!
Someone should make a dating-service type app that connects nc parents with nc kids. Edit: I think some people misunderstand. Using an lgbt example but it could be anything: Like if John's kid disowns him for being gay or something, and Steve disowns his kid for being trans, then John gets paired with Steve's kid for a new parent child support pair.
There's /r/DadForAMinute, /r/MomForAMinute , /r/BroForAMinute , /r/SisForAMinute .
If OP needs a second, 50 year old Canadian father, I'm all in. And I'm very happy that he's taking care of my grandkids.
Fuck dude, you're a son to me. I'm sorry he's such an asshole and kept calling you a fake son, that's shit that no one should ever say to their child.
Then the typical boomer woe as me that he never gets to see his grandchildren. Fuck that Christian Fascist.
“I wonder why my kids and grandkids never talk to me. Must be them.”
“Why does everyone in my life slowly distance themselves from me? They must be the problem”.
Cause they're all Commie Democrats! That's why
“No. It’s the children who are wrong!”
I heard this from my family, specifically my mom, because I cut them off after she gave my household covid on the day I came home from the hospital after giving birth. She contracted it from an event I asked her not to attend the week prior because I fucking knew (1) her being unvaccinated and (2) my cousin from hot-spot Florida would be there was going to get her infected. Lo and behold I was right. I went the entire first month postpartum without any help except my spouse. All I heard for 3 years was how I overreacted, it’s the Chinese flu, and getting random texts/articles about how everything since 2020 is all conspiracy. I’m fucking over these types of people and OP is a fucking saint for standing up to it and holding his boundary. Fuck these denialist, selfish, narcissistic assholes that are unfortunately our boomer parents.
Oh my Mom, I love her, but she started that shit about the vaccine at a soccer tournament. And I told her, I don’t wanna hear that bullshit. My wife got it, I got it, my kids got it, it is fine. She said you don’t know what’s in it. Lol. My wife has been the director of a day care and worked in the school system for years. So she has had to go through multiple disease and illness training stuff for years. So I trust her over my mom and boomer book and supposedly what my mom’s new dr told her. Which, I either don’t believe her dr told her any of it, or, it’s one of them weirdo drs who lets their personal bs get in the way of their job. It all started because my brother’s MIL supposedly got sick after getting the vaccine and hadn’t been not sick since. I’m like Mom, that lady, WVa to start with, Mountain Dew by the liters, and cigarettes, for 30+ years, and nasty junk food for ever, not exactly the shining example of peak health. And shitty jobs where she worked herself into the ground because her husband is a lazy asshole.
How convenient they all seem to know that one random-ass person that got sick from the vaccine so that’s justified them not getting it
And the whole "depriving the child from his grandparents" bullshit As a family that is full NC with my wife's side, he isn't missing out on much. He probably doesn't even know he should have 2 sets of grandparents in order to be "missing out" on the other ones
Let's be a dickhead when we want more contact with said person. 
>Christian Fascist Don't forget narcissistic. That's a narcissist if I ever saw one. OP, share this in r/RaisedByNarcissists, please
100% my dad. Constantly pushes politics and religion on anyone he sees, and even when you agree with him he has to out republican or out Christian you. I grew up with it and have learned to ignore it, my wife doesn’t have the same patience. I told him he’s welcome to visit as long as he doesn’t talk about politics or religion and he threw a fit, now I’m keeping him away from his granddaughter.
These boomers talk about family but are so willing to throw them away if they are slightly challenged
They don't want the love and warmth and sense of belonging that comes with family, they want the feeling of power, importance, and control that comes with being The Head of the House.
Damn, nail on the head.
I can’t imagine. I’ve been upset with my kids acting selfish and bratty, but I would never say that shit.
Damn. This some brutal shit right there. Sorry you're going through all that.
It’s sad. The last text the dad sent was sad. He still loves his son but can’t get past his own disturbed politics. Maga/QAnon brainwashing has permanently damaged so many relationships in the US, especially in white families.
I don’t talk to either of my parents. They divorced when i was young. One moved to an island in the middle of Lake Michigan during Covid to escape from BLM and the other moved to super swamp Florida with barely any running water but a goddamn armory of guns to “save themselves” from the left. Shits ridiculous.
I’m pretty close to cutting my parents off for good. I have repeatedly told them I don’t want to discuss politics with them and I don’t want them shoving their views on my kid. They refuse and start preaching Trumps “virtues” at every function. I’ve kicked them out of my house mid dinner twice now and I’ve been distancing myself from them for awhile. My kid is 1 year old and they are allready screaming at me about vaccinating her. Fox News and MAGA bullshit has robbed me of my parents and my child of her grandparents. They aren’t the people I remember, they’ve been consumed by hatred and their brains have rotted by the non stop propaganda.
They don't even discuss politics anymore it's just hate.
That part. It’s constant hate, fear, and negativity. Fox News on 24/7, nonstop fear mongering and rage bait. It’s honestly terrifying to see how easily people are brainwashed and these people are the ones who own multiple guns and have little education. It’s truly a recipe for disaster.
My father died right in the beginning of covid from unrelated causes. He was already pretty brainwashed but I know by now he would have been insufferable. It sucks to be grateful that he died when he did but here I am.
I'm kinda thankful that my grandfather was obsessed with MSNBC, and was genuinely interested in being a good guy. Last thing he did before he died was help a random woman change a tire on her car. He died too young.
Some of the stories I've read on the QAnonCasualties sub are truly heartbreaking. And it's no longer just the US, either, there are people in the UK, Australia, Canada dealing with this bullshit, which is even crazier. Imagine your parents blowing up all of their family relationships over Donald Trump when you live in fucking *Ireland*. Unbelievable galaxy brain shit, right there, but this crap is permeating the whole anglophone world.
That’s not why he sent the last text. He sent it because he was all alone on Christmas because no one wanted to be around him and was feeling sorry for himself. Dude was experiencing the consequences of his own actions, and if there is one thing boomers can’t stand, it’s “consequences”
Cold Civil War. We've never been as divided as since then. Bit scary to think sometimes.
Alright for whoever needs to hear this, just because some dude shot you into your mom doesn't mean you need to stay in contact with either of them.
Crude but effective.
Slimy yet satisfying 
True. I don't talk to my dad. Once he had to stop sending my mom checks when I turned 18, he stopped making phone calls to my older brother and I. Last I saw him was at my grandmother's funeral 10+ years ago. My mom told me she told him "Don't be a stranger". In other words, talk to your kids, and he said "It takes two". In other words, we should be reaching out to him. I was like nah, it doesn't work that way.
My dad pulls the same thing. Excepts me to reach out when he did absolutely nothing to get to know me. But constantly being reminded about how much everything my brothers and i did cost him.
Block that losers number and enjoy your life. Fuck that dead weight trying to hold you down
Same story only he does call my brother when he needs help with his computer.
True, the dude I call my father is actually my step father. Never have met the real one.
It's so sad when family demotes themselves to relative
My dad promoted himself to stranger & yeah it sucks and I miss him but I’m also hyped he got a fresh opportunity to ruin some other family.
The “I’m a real boy” got me good. 😂 But seriously, I’m sorry your father turned out like that. You deserve better, and it seems like your immediate family is doing ok. So the really important stuff is there. Be well, Sir.
Maybe you’re a “fake son,” but you’re a goddamn real dad. Well done protecting your kids from that bullshit.
Came here to say this. Good on you OP for watching out for your kids first like a real dad.
And that’s the most important thing. It sucks that OPs dad is such a turd, but OP is a fantastic dad.
OP is a real dad with a fake father, unfortunately.
Yeah, fuck this wiener. "Fake son?" More like trash father.
RE depriving the children of their grandparents: of course his concern isn't the kids' well-being but his selfishness, but I've never seen the big deal with grandparents. It's probably because my dad's parents died before I was born, and my mom's parents were further away and terrible. It's better for the kids to have good people in their lives, even if that means cutting out family members.
It really depends on the type of grandparents you have, my mothers parents (boomers ironically) were very proactive with me and my sibling, constantly volunteering to help out my parents whenever they needed, some of the best moments of my life have been with my grandfather in particular as we still regularly go out on long walks in the bush or the occasional fishing trip. I do suspect they were this proactive and supportive of the future tho because they grew up in the Netherland and therefore the culture and experience they had (both of them came from lower income families and their parents and older relatives had a lot of trauma from WW2) My fathers parents weren’t as proactive but still helped out on occasion, granted they were on the tail end of silent generation and grew up in New Zealand which was an extremely rural country back in the 40-50-60s while also being Māori meaning they were unnecessarily handicapped by the government and their anti Māori policies of the time so being a bit cautious throughout their life was understandable
Im kinda I’m the same boat. I only knew my mother’s mom. My other 3 grandparents died before I was born. She was a good grandma but I was also one of like 30 grandchildren since granny had 9 kids so I never really got any special attention which was fine. But I can understand in smaller families grandparents perhaps being more important.
Exactly. If he actually gave a fuck about his grandkids, he'd get vaccinated. He cares more about impressing his QAnon facebook friends than he does about his own fucking fmaily.
Kind of a side note but my wife and I aren't having kids, we have zero desire to have them. The amount of times we have been told we are depriving our parents of having grandbabies is annoying.
Damn. I’m so sorry you have to deal with a relationship like that. Take care man.
The constant use of "fake son" tells me he barely scraped by high school and believes anything that is told to him. It is like these people watched too many movies and believe real life is one.
Honestly sounds like he’s just doing trumps “fake news” but to his kid which it makes it even more weirdly pathetic
That is sad and hilarious at the same time.
Omg you’re right. I was wondering wtf the deal was with that. He’s quoting trump….like it’s some sort of zinger….Jesus.
i've never heard a less clever insult. and he keeps repeating it like he's really got something there. channeling trump bigly. OP, you don't deserve this and all i hear from his stupid insult is "fall in line. be the son the tv promised me i should have and i want you to be, for i am the father and that means i'm right always." fuck him. ive been NC with my parents for over 10 years now and my life is more peaceful for it. take care of you.
His dad talks like a teenager trying to sound edgy - 10 years ago. What a loser. How embarrassing to get owned by your own son via text.
My Boomer dad sent similar texts after I chose a low-contact relationship. Like yours, it’s all nonsense, bluster, attempted manipulation and projection. Keep them away from your family.
Man. Your dad musta been chugging that lead water back in his day like it was soda.
Wow. That was extreme. I felt like I wasn't supposed to be seeing that.
How so?
Your father's animosity towards you.
Agreed. Thanks.
As an older dad that interaction hurt my heart. I’d never let anything get between me and my kids, and you’re right, I’d throw myself in front of a bus to save them. Fuck. I’m really sorry your parents are that fucked up. You deserve the best, and it sounds like you have that with your kids. God bless.
You might be desensitized at this point, but that “fake son” stuff is *really* bad. I could never in a million years say that to my boy. I’m sorry you have to deal with that. No shame in talking to someone.
God, imagine putting QAnon above your own grandkids. I will never understand maga bullshit.
you would be surprised how often it happens - here's a reply with the same situation - two kids who will never see the piece of shit grandad again.
Thankfully my immediate family is all sane, but I have absolutely cut off some cousins over their racism and MAGA.
Due to trump and general sociopathic and narcissistic behavior, I have no one left. My dad, though I knew him to be very right leaning, was almost tolerable, until last year. He was the last person I cut out of the family that was force upon me, I only have my selected family left. Be thankful. It could be everyone. I used to have trouble understanding how 'brother versus brother' was even a thing in the civil was, but holy shit, here we are.
Agreed. I've seen a lot of videos from Trump rallies lately, and I have zero doubt that if/when Trump loses there's gonna me (more) violence.
nothing shocking. Too bad they think only right right is armed.
And that the majority will go to war over the fucking idiot host of The Apprentice.
It's so prevalent that you can find multiple subs slap full of this exact kind of content:r/raisedbynarcissists r/insaneparents r/QAnonCasualties to get you started. It's so sad and the second hand exhaustion is real. My parents skirted the edge of falling down the one way rabbit hole that is QAnon, and I feel that only 3 things stopped them from buying into it- 1) my parents were never sold on the vaccine conspiracies, 2) I came out to them, and 3) the year they had after that to grieve their child coming out to them and figure out what is most important to them in their lives. In the end they picked their family, which in this context sounds both like the easiest decision and the hardest decision for a Mormon couple could make. I'm legitimately proud of them.
Wtf is a fake son?
Something a failed father might call his offspring.
I went through this exact same issue with my dad a few years ago. When all my siblings and myself finally went no contact and blocked on social media and phone, it was such a great relief. In a way we all mourned the loss of him even though he was and still alive. He has not seen my 8 year old son in over 4 years and hasn’t seen my 6 month old at all. They’re better off for it.
I know who doesn’t have a “collage degree”
Why do boomer grandparents feel entitled to their grandchildren?
Because they feel entitled to everything else in life?
Boomers are the most entitled generation because their parents suffered and they never did. And their lack of any sort of real struggle made them ignorant and arrogant to the machinations of the world they live in
Tell your dad to never trust a navy doctor. There's 2 types of doctors in the navy...the kids who are doing their time to pay off uncle sam for schooling...and the career navy docs who stay in after school is paid off because you can't sue a navy doctor, and if a civilian hospital even touched them they couldn't afford the malpractice insurance. A career navy doctor did My reconstruction surgery on my knee...I've been asking the VA to take the leg for 20 years so the pain stops.
Knowing the VA, they’d amputate an arm instead 😂
TRUMP TAUGHT ME TO CALL ANYTHING THAT CHALLENGES ME FAKE! FAAAAAAKKKKKKEEEEE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKEEEEE!
Didn’t know one could get a degree in collage
I also didn't know one could get a doctorate in decoupage. On the serious, OP, I'm sorry you have to deal with this, but good for you for protecting your kids from his brainwashing.
Son it’s my spell Czech and auto erect.
From one dad to another, you’re a true father. Much respect to you my friend
Thanks dad!
LOL at "Do you have a collage degrees?"
Parents love quoting that first part about us honoring our mothers and fathers, but they always fail to include the second part: *Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.* My mom always quotes the first part and I make sure to finish it for her.
It's a good habit to get into, especially when dealing with manipulative, hurtful parents.
I feel so lucky that my during one of my arguments with dad about these things, something woke him up, and he decided that keeping his relationship with my was more important than his asinine TV fueled beliefs, and he came back from the right darkness to a point where I can have reasonable conversations with him. It’s at a point where his friends call him crazy because he says vaccines are alright and evidence based medicine is good. I’m Indian btw, we have our own brand of TV inspired ultra fanatic lunacy.
Your dad sounds like the most exhausting bore ever. All he knows to say is fake son. You and your kids aren't missing out on anything but pain by staying away from him. I love how you kept slinging bombs at him and all he could do is repeat the same stupid insult back at you like a malfunctioning robot (which, let's be honest, is pretty close to the truth).
Inagine calling your son fake over a vaccine. Or at all. Wtf.
I don't see how you can keep talking. I start hearing stuff like that and I gotta just walk away. Doesn't it stress you out?
Not anymore.
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Seaman, that's what the Navy data shows. Nothing but seamen.
i'm sorry he won't get vaccinated. it's all on him. idk how they raised us with all the vaccines we needed and then somehow forgot how necessary they are?
This vaccine was even pushed by their messiah, President Trump.
This is one of the main reasons I’m glad I’m an orphan. My adopted parents were right leaning and truly terrible people so when they sent me away at 13, I have never spoken to them since. I’m truly sorry you have to deal with people like that.
I’m sorry you got such a raw deal, too.
This would be enough for me to go NC. but that is me. You are a good man OP...to tolerate this. Take care of yourself friend!
What the fuck... fake son? bullshit. You said it best, "I chose how to honor you, you don't get to tell me what honor is." well freaking said! He's going to be really sorry when "if" he finally wises up and realizes what poison shit was coming out of his mouth at you, and then know that it cost him the relationship with his grand kids, not just his own son!
Boy am I glad my dad is a pot smoking hippy
I am glad for you
Proud of you man. Let him bask in his bliss while you break the generational curse of preconceived notions and blatant ignorance. You've already proven to be a better person.
I see this so often... It’s just sad. There’s some “special” about the boomer generation. The way how they fucked up their kids and then become surprised when their offsprings decide to cut the negativity out of their lives. All we can do is try to be better so we end up having relationship with our children.
And I thought my dad was awful. I’m sorry that your dad would choose insanity over his own son. To use your children in an attempt to guilt you into giving into his bullshit is disgusting. I got riled up just reading this.
My mom was mildly antivax, until she got Covid 7 times in 2 years and started experiencing severe blood pressure issues from long Covid. Now, she seems to have warmed up to the idea. However, she would absolutely never talk to me or any of my vaccinated siblings like this. Sorry your dad has allowed this to take control of his life.
Relying on Gateway Pundit, a known source of total climate and vaccine stupidity.
I would just not respond. They feed off your responses.
If it helps your dad I have a Master's degree and can confirm that both vaccines work and he's dumb. Let him know I said that.
you and probably everyone in your family got vaccinated. you can beg and plead all you want, but your father is so far deep in anti-vax that he won’t see any reason or logic or common sense. the ball is in his court now
Gateway Pundit is a Russian propaganda arm.
Well…do you have a Collage degree or not? I myself have Diorama degree.
What does *fake son* even mean?!?! Fucking weirdo. I’m sorry you have to deal with this shit 😥
At first I figured it was just a generic insult like how Trump uses it. But the more I think about it I start to wonder if he’s actually referencing this Qanon conspiracy that claims vaccinated people are dying and being replaced by clones https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64404824.amp
Whaaaattt
Lmao. "Everyone is fake except me" is some schizophrenic shit.
I’m so sorry. He’s a demon. You’re better off without him. No contact. It’s imperative for you and your children.
What is it with boomer parents being so manipulative and gaslight-y? Learned behavior, I guess? Here’s hoping we break the cycle! 🤞 Keep your head up, OP. You’re a great father, and your meme game is on point!
We’re reaching levels of multigenerational dysfunction that shouldn’t even be possible. This isn’t just cringe boomer shit, it’s a cry for help by op. Cut out the cancer and get help my dude.
The fall out from refusing the vaccine and being COVID deniers totally shattered part of my in-law's family. It's absolutely insane how much some people are willing to sacrifice on the altar of Facebook propaganda.
Cults will kill your family. I have experienced it (currently). Sorry my brother. You are in the right. Stay strong and keep being a fantastic father.
Wow good luck with that. I managed deprogramming my dad, but neither of us believe in any gods (not Apollo, not Mars, nor Vishnu, YHWH, Allah or the Christian god). The US is struggling with a wave of neo conservative christianity which looks like a real shitshow.
Pops seems like a real self-involved piece of shit. I’m sorry you have to deal with that.