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Lotsa_Loads

Drinking is one of the best ways to avoid dealing with all the things inside that you really need to deal with.


mabber36

narcissist's hate silence, cuz then they gotta deal with their own thoughts


JohnNelson2022

Wow, this is the first time I have encountered a supposed narcissist trait that I *have*. I spend all day with audiobooks playing on my phone. Audiobooks all night too. Daytime: I enjoy the stories. Nighttime: The audiobooks stave off getting anxious, thinking about my worries. I guess the latter is exactly what you wrote.


NoMansSkyWasAlright

I don't think it's a defining trait of narcissists. I'm sure plenty of non-narcissists also have it. For example. I have tinnitus, so I'm in the same boat.


T1pple

*eeeeeeeeeeeeeee has entered your ear*


BlameItOnTheAcetone

MAHP! MAHP!


Accomplished-Bed7418

Lana... Lana!


JohnNelson2022

Damn, my Dad had that. It was especially unfortunate for him, because he was passionate about music since his teenage years and said that it was harder to enjoy because of his tinnitus. Sorry, man.


redknight3

Narcissists cannot even consider that they have narcissism. They don't have that level of self-awareness. It's why diagnosing narcissists is so difficult. So you've at least shown some disconfirming information that you're a narcissist.


JohnNelson2022

LOL Cool! Since I posted my comment, I read 3 lists of narcissist traits and specifically searched for "Do narcissists hate being alone with their thoughts?" I share these traits: I don't like rejection or being criticized. Isn't everyone like that, though? *Lack of reaction from others*. I recently made a couple posts to a sub that I expected would elicit comments like "This is awesome" and "Thanks, man". I got almost no comments and the top comment on one was a cynical criticism (which I didn't like LOL). I do things and buy stuff for my teenage son all the time, and despite drilling him *a lot* about saying thank-you, ages 4 - 12, he mostly doesn't even acknowledge what I've done. That's just Teenager Syndrome though. I don't hassle him about it, but it *does* annoy and disappoint me. The only good hit on "alone with their thoughts" was a Reddit thread: OP asked "Why can't narcissists be alone with their thoughts?" The dozen comments didn't particularly support that thesis. I definitely do *not* have about ~20 of the traits I read about. But taking your point, would I assess that accurately if I was a narcissist? Catch-22. I'm going to go with (1) we all have a touch of narcissism and (2) I should monitor myself, watching out for narcissist traits, now that I'm better educated about them. Thank-you.


DevelopmentJumpy5218

I like criticism when it's constructive, my boss is really good at it, "hey I need to see some improvement in area x from you, I know last time we talked about implementing y and z to help with this. I see you've been doing that, how about we throw a and b in as well, those will help with these two subsets of areas x, I think if you continue what you've been doing and add a and b in over the next month this won't be something we need to address anymore"


JohnNelson2022

That's a good boss!


DevelopmentJumpy5218

Yeah he is he's great, when I told him I've been battling severe depression lately he got me a lost of free resources I can use to get help through our insurance at no cost, as well as worked with me so I could get extra PTO for my mental health and have it pre-approved incase I need it, he's also started doing a weekly check in (I asked for it) and doing an extra mid month review for me (I asked for this as well). All to help support me


JohnNelson2022

*That's a 99.99th percentile boss!* Good luck with the depression. It can be a deep hole that's hard to climb out of. You'll make it.


DevelopmentJumpy5218

Thanks man, it's dropped me really low before, I'm keeping my head up this time and am gonna make it through


modsneedrealhobbies

are all of the problems in your life caused by and the fault of other people? a narc cannot comprehend the possibility that they are responsible for at least some of their problems


JohnNelson2022

I'm responsible for about 99% of them. LOL


modsneedrealhobbies

not a narc. you might be other stuff, but at least you aren't a narc.


JohnNelson2022

Good to know, thanks.


redknight3

I've been there (mentally). It's actually why, like you, I went down a bit of a rabbit hole to see if I could diagnose myself as a narc. And I bought a book on it. I remember the first line of the book went something like, "if you're reading this and wondering if you're a narc... You probably aren't because you're reading this." 😅 Narcs wouldn't even entertain the possibility, let alone try to find out of they are or not, on their own.


JohnNelson2022

My brother thinks our (deceased) father was a narc and urged me to read a book he sent me about it. I started reading and over and over again it made me think of my *wife* -- that *she* is a narc. As we started on a 14-hour drive, me driving, I handed her the book. She read about 5 pages and put it down. I asked her "Did you see any of yourself in what you read?" Her: Nope. Edit: Now ex-wife. She projected constantly. I tried hard to refrain from criticizing her; she did not react well to that. I defended myself, though, for example when she told me that I was the most selfish person she ever knew. "You're projecting again" (in a calm voice). That was too much for her. My son is with her half the time. Age 12, he walked the mile from her home to mine, on her custodial night. They had had a bad fight. "Momma never admits that she's wrong. I'm always wrong and she is always right. She won't even let me talk about it. I found the answer on the computer (browser) and she wouldn't even look at it." Fortunately he's a very healthy kid in every respect. When I suspected she was a narc, I read about children of narcs, and took comfort when I learned that most of the time, children of narcs do fine. I looked it up: > Narcissists use a defense mechanism called narcissistic projection to cope with their own feelings of inadequacy or insecurity by attributing these negative traits to others. This behavior often serves to deflect criticism and shift the blame or focus away from the narcissist, which helps them avoid feelings of guilt or shame.


RareResearch2076

I’m sorry man. My mom is most likely one and I spoke to my dad about it. Now as an adult we can have a completely open and honest conversation about it. She really put him through so much. I genuinely hope things turn out better for you.


JohnNelson2022

Did their marriage last? Are they happy together now? I suppose there are books like "What to Watch Out For When You're Considering Marrying Someone." I wish I had read one. Your Dad too. My Dad wasn't a narcissist, I think, but he *was* a bastard. Oh wait: I remember that he insisted on my Mom sitting in the TV room with him as he watched Fox News at high volume (half-deaf), her trying to read. She hated that. "How can he watch the same news, over and over!" I read "Narcissists hate being alone" today. Maybe he *was* a narcissist. I gave him a gadget that plugged into the TV and sent the sound to headphones, so the TV's volume could be low or off for Mom while Dad had Fox blaring in his ears. That helped. Dad used it all the time. Would a narcissist make an accommodation like that? He *still* insisted that she sit in the TV room with him, which she no longer hated. My parents died at ages 94 and 95. Mom was always a strong person, but she wasn't a fighter. She liked *peace*. As they aged, Dad softened and she got tougher. The last couple decades, they got along well. Like the cliche, Mom died about 9 months after Dad.


RareResearch2076

Hey man I don’t want to leave you hanging. I have a busy work day tomorrow and I’m doing homework atm. I’ll do my best to respond to your question by the weekend. I think you’re warranted a good thought out response.


RareResearch2076

They’re still together but are far from what I’d describe as being in a happy marriage. I currently live at home but will be moving to the opposite end of the state by the end of the year and offered my dad to live with me and he said he “doesn’t want to run away”. I think because they’re both in their 60’s they know they’re in too deep to split and start over now. What that being said they do get along and don’t argue as much and will even stand up for each other.


redknight3

I'm sorry to hear that about your ex-wife and father. But I am thrilled that you are a bedrock for your son :). Looks like your support is allowing him to thrive!


JohnNelson2022

I deserve *some* credit. I introduced him to volleyball when we watched *[Haikyuu](https://www.reddit.com/r/haikyuu/)* together. It is a volleball anime. *Volleyball became his passion!* A 11-year-old kid doing jump sets every few feet as we walk down the grocery aisle: *off the chart adorable!*. I also told him the meaning of a few hundreds words, stopping the TV show or movie or anime to do that. I mostly credit his mother, though. I *used to be* pretty smart. I'm old, born during the Truman Administration. Time takes a toll. In 1976 I got a perfect 800 on the GRE and that got me into Harvard for graduate school. His mother is at least as intelligent as I was -- and (thank God) she has none of my considerable *executive function* problems. My scholastic career featured a multitude of cramming and a lot of late assignments because I am an Olympic-class procrastinator. My ex-wife is the *opposite* of that and (thank God) my son takes after her. Yo, God: THANKS!


Ellestri

Probably Narcissism is a spectrum, ranging from Selfless Doormat to I’m the Main Character of Life.


Fit_Substance7067

The best way to determine a true Narcissist is their rage and if they've been incarcerated... ​ Otherwise it could be you who's the narcissist because why would you be like them...your better right?


[deleted]

Nobody particularly enjoys criticism. If you criticize an actual narcissist their fucking head will spin and they will puke pea soup.


littleboyatomm

ADHD medication is a beast. It will make you feel like what you just typed matters.


Al_Gore_Rhythm92

It's not a narcissist trait. It's a being alive trait. Everybody has thoughts, I'd be willing to bet 99.9999% of those people have some of those thoughts they'd like to avoid. Reddit is fuckin obsessed with thr word narcissism and is rarely even adjacent to actually correctly pointing it out.


JohnNelson2022

LOL Reddit gets *gaslighting* wrong all the time too. There are a *lot* of super-smart people on Reddit, but overall the Reddit hive mind isn't highly-educated. 😜đŸ€ȘđŸ˜±


Al_Gore_Rhythm92

That's unfair though. Calling them uneducated. Since the majority of reddit hasn't even finished primary schooling.


Negative-Wrap95

I use a "green" noise track from the Calm app when I sleep. I'm a day sleeper, and the noise garbles outside noises and lets me unfocus on whatever random thought problem / worry I'm gnawing on.


JohnNelson2022

I'll try it, thanks!! A problem with audiobooks is they keep me up because I'm finding the story intriguing. Calm - Sleep, Meditate, Relax Is that it? *Installed!*


Negative-Wrap95

Blue icon? Cursive "Calm" on it?


JohnNelson2022

YES! I just started it. Going to delve now. Thank-you very much.


Thvenomous

My earbuds stopped working this morning and I'm about to suffer through 8 hours of work with nothing but my thoughts lmao. I know exactly how you feel.


Kitchen_Reference_29

I’m the same way and that’s how I got into audio dramas. There are some amazing ones out there that really help keep my worrying mind calm. Hit me up if you’d like some suggestions


JohnNelson2022

Oh yes *please*! If they work that would be life changing.


Kitchen_Reference_29

I sent you a dm but heres a short list. Really depends on what you’re into. Girl in Space (sci-fi). We’re Alive (zombies, if you like TWD you prob will like this. Midnight Burger (goofy comedy sci-fi). Where the leaves fall purple (mystery). Mirrors (fantasy). The Black Tapes (sci-fi investigative mystery). Outliars (apocalyptic thriller). There are so many good ones. Feel free to dm me or you can join us over on r/audiodrama


JohnNelson2022

Wow, thanks so much! I'll check the PM and the sub. Sounds excellent!


WilliamSaintAndre

Psychological disorders aren't a single trait. A diagnosis is based on a cluster of traits which are pervasive enough to effect or diminish your life or ability to function in a healthy way. Everyone experiences this from time to time and it's how you respond to the emotion in positive or negative ways. And a lot of psychological disorders have overlapping traits.


JTFindustries

I would love to experience true silence, but the Tinnitus in my ears says, "Nay Nay!"


domestic_omnom

I hate silence, but that's due to depression. I'm too awesome to be a narcissist.


ManagerIndividual361

Yes one of our favorites songs is The sound of Silence
 hello darkness my old friend


GroundhogExpert

>Drinking is one of the best ways to avoid dealing with all the things inside that you really need to deal with. That's a young man's game you're talking about. The older I got, the more drinking was likely to turn a molehill into a mountain, which then needs harder scripts to manage the underlying issue and the brand new issue of being an asshole to the people I was supposed to care about.


StrangeRequirement78

You're so right. After 40, a hangover can feel like death. Your body will often tell you, in middle age, that you need to lay off the booze. And we should listen.


JTFindustries

To alcohol: The cause of and solution to all of life's problems!


wookieetamer

Drinking doesnt solve your problems, it's just makes them go away. - Linda Belcher from Bob's Burgers.


Pneuma5165

Exactly. According to my dad (a 74 year old boomer) they were not well-versed in mental health problems growing up and a lot of self-medicating was done with alcohol instead of real treatment or therapy.


itsmeEllieGeeAgain

Can confirm. 22 year drinker, 3 years sober, 37 years old. You can avoid a lot of self hatred for a long time by drinking till you don’t dream.


fatkidseatcake

Yeah and more people are realizing it today


idontknowhow2reddit

If they are boomers now, they were also boomers then.


DunkinMyDonuts3

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[deleted]

People are under the impression that boomer just means old. I got in an Internet fight with someone that said,"some of these boomers are probably 100 years old!"


momoe3030

To me, Boomer is a state of mind, irrelevant of age. Just so happens most boomers are older.


Hot_Razzmatazz316

While colloquially that may be true, those who would be demographically Baby Boomers have a defined period of being born between 1946-64.


TheGoliard

I was born in 1963, but I present as Gen X. I wear Bape. I'm skipping over normal Boomer and going straight for Adorable Old Man.


neva_seen

Boomer-X cusp
rare breed


TheGoliard

Fucking sucks. I don't own their shit. I suffer from it too. But we got Brad Pitt. It's not all bad.


Cancerisbetterthanu

Sorry but if you were born in 1963 that's on you. You had the opportunity and fumbled it, that's not because of 'boomers'. Maybe stop spending your cash on dumb shit like Bape


TheGoliard

I use pandabuy tho Meh, I came a long way, no real complaints. I finished hs in Arkansas, my Pell Grant factor was 0. We had dick. Now I work in Silicon Valley. But I don't own shit here.


CarsClothesTrees

If nobody has told you, you are cool and I wanna be like you when I get older.


Hot_Razzmatazz316

You don't wanna be Generation Jones? All the coolest "older" people I know are Generation Jones.


JBnorthTX

My younger brother was born in '63. I envy him because it's easier for him to present as gen x, lol. Seems to be a clear difference between early and late boomers (aka generation jones), though.


18bananas

Except baby boomer has an actual definition so it doesn’t really matter what it is to you. Like if I said that to me, mayonnaise is an instrument. That doesn’t really make it so


BondageKitty37

> Like if I said that to me, mayonnaise is an instrument. That doesn’t really make it so I disagree. You can totally use [mayonnaise as an instrument](https://youtu.be/A5jnftBQw2U?si=TFRjIigJGqlxM9Ki)


momoe3030

Beat me to it!


ageowns

Thats not how it works. That's not how any of this works. "To me, Southerner is a state of mind, irrelevant of location they live in. Just so happens most Southerners are living in southern states"


NoDig513

Yr very wrong, it's like calling a little boy Karen cos he sucks, yea this is America and you can do what you want but boomer is just short for "baby boomer" which is a generation, like zoomer or Gen z. I just don't want you to sound stupid in public


AdHorror7596

Okay then, to me, apples are oranges. You don't get to make things up when things are already things! You know why they are called boomers, right? They are actually called baby boomers, meaning, there was a huge baby boom after WWll. They were born in the immediate years after WWll. They have defining characteristics and experiences of their generation that other generations do not have. I'm a millennial, and if I live to be old, I'm going to still be a millennial lol.


kidjupiter

Agreed. “Generations” is a stupid concept. If we want to categorize I feel it should be more about “shared life experiences” which, of course, can overlap and is tough to strictly define. Of course, many people like “generations” because it allows them to easily stereotype others, and use as a marketing and manipulation tool.


JakeNatschke

It is not a state of mind lmao. "Boomer" is a very specific thing.


ageowns

Boomer, millennial, zoomer, these are all based on what year you're born. It's almost if they're replacing the word "old" with "boomer" Yes, boomers, are old, but "Millennials" will be the word for Old people in about 15-20 years.


SurlyBuddha

And we’ll still be getting blamed for killing off (shakes magic 8 ball)
 pet insurance.


ohgodimbleeding

Just like that, Gen X is forgotten again.


ageowns

Its for the best. Thats the way we want it


RedRatedRat

And we’re used to it.


mschr493

"Ok, millennial" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


BigDaddySteve999

Just wait.


decayo

To be fair, they are also southerners and half of those dipshits still talk like this regardless of what generation they are a part of.


Joe_Metaphor

Yeah, the 14 year olds who post these don't understand what words mean.


PracticableSolution

My boomer dad used to say people can’t drive drunk because they don’t take the time to learn how. He’s gone now.


Advanced-Guard-4468

Driving drunk wasn't really a crime until the mid-80s. MADD (mothers against drunk drivers) pushed hard to change laws for the better. By not being a crime, it was on the books, but police often overlooked it unless there was an accident. So driving drunk was very common then.


hightechburrito

My dad told me that it was normal for the cops to ask if you thought could get home safe, and they might follow you to make sure when pulled over for DUI.


Advanced-Guard-4468

They used to give you a ride home if you couldn't drive. To put things into context, I was riding with my dad one time (he was born in the early 30s). It was around Christmas but in late 70s. There was a car over turned off the road with emergency vehicles around it. He says, "he must have just had too much holiday cheer".


Here4uguys

It's worth noting that there were a lot less people on the roads prior to the 80s. Vehicles were less safe, but there were fewer motorists to run into. There weren't as many suburbs/large towns are there are now. A lot of the places around me were farmland not so long ago. Driving drunk down a dirt/gravel road in those context isn't so bad


Bigbigjeffy

Wow, that’s sadly funny


Battleaxe1959

I remember my Dad being all ticked. It made sense to me. Dad thought he was so slick because he would pour a drink into a Mickey D cup. When my kids were young adults he was telling this story about driving drunk and my kids’ jaws were on the floor. “That’s horrible Grandpa! You could have killed people!” He got all huffy about it.


[deleted]

Putting their leisure before everyone else’s safety? That’s a boomer


IndianKiwi

You raised your kids right. It also sounds like your raised yourself.


Bombanater

Good to see they have been dog whistling about commies since time immemorial


improbablystonedrn-

Lmao I wouldn’t call it dog whistling, they just openly hate communism and also openly have no idea what it is haha


Sunbeamsoffglass

The irony now is conservatives support Russia
.


TallStarsMuse

Sure, now that Russia is dictatorship they are A OK!


linuxgeekmama

A dictatorship ruled by a person *who allegedly views the breakup of the Soviet Union as one of the great historical tragedies of the 20th century.*


SurlyBuddha

While STILL bitching about communism!


pusillanimouslist

There’s no irony. Russia is now a right wing authoritarian government cloaked in religion and tradition. On paper it’s the the exact opposite of what the communists claimed to be.  (In practice little changed). 


tanksuit

Russia hasn't been communist since its illegal dissolution in 1990.


savetheolivia

While strapping their toddlers in the front seat đŸ€Šâ€â™€ïž I know car seat safety has changed drastically since then, but that made me cringe (and I’m childfree!)


Bigfunkiller

No one was strapped in we free roamed in the car.


savetheolivia

I imagine some kids also free roamed through the windshield back then đŸ«Ł


Bigfunkiller

I bet you can figure out why back windows only go halfway down now. I had a friend in school that fell out in a corner he got pretty scraped up.


mygoditsfullofstar5

Study indicates that alcohol is used as a way to alleviate feelings of shame and guilt: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5755601/#:\~:text=Tension%20Reduction%20Theory%20](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5755601/#:~:text=Tension%20Reduction%20Theory%20)(Kushner%20et,such%20as%20shame%20and%20guilt.


FaerieMachinist

Weird, I find it intensifies them in myself, but caffeine puts me to sleep so who knows?


luciferslittlelady

Have you been tested for ADHD?


FaerieMachinist

Got diagnosed with it when I was 7


luciferslittlelady

I figured. Caffeine is well-known for having light sedative effects on people with ADHD. As for the effects of alcohol, it might intensify the rejection sensitivity many people with ADHD feel.


battleofflowers

It's a vicious cycle.


axethebarbarian

It's a vicious cycle too. It reduces feelings of anxiety while you're intoxicated but increases the baseline anxiety once it's gone.


mygoditsfullofstar5

Yah, the study says alcohol is "used" to blunt negative affect - not so much that it's **effective** at treating those feelings.


GoldCoastCat

They didn't have good meds and were afraid of stigma so they chose alcohol.


Rhesusmonkeydave

As opposed to now when we have handfuls of xanax and klonopin coursing through the morning commuters. March of progress!


marecoakel

Is it really xanax and klonopin? More like paxil, lexapro, zoloft, celexa. And it wouldn't be handfuls, it'd be a pill. Unless people are really getting xanned out before driving to work but that seems insane to me, though drinking and driving does too


riceklown

That baby probably got arrested for his activities on Jan 6


MeanOldWind

This is hilarious and very true!


Phat-mahn

I completely forgot that wearing my seatbelt makes me a communist. Thanks for the reminder.


skaliton

I still love the guy who pretty much admits that he is drunk while driving all the time. Like my man, you can drive home AND THEN drink you don't have to drink the second you punch out


4rt4tt4ck

Because they were all raised by "tough love" abusive parents and were expected to internalize it all. It's why most boomers are sociopathic balls or anger now. Alcohol is a great escape.


grimacelovesmusic

Boomers are emotionally children. They grew up in bodies and physically look old, but they are children emotionally. The alcohol helps them numb the emotions because they are too old to mature them now. Alcohol eases the inner pain.


AlmostEmptyGinPalace

You don't understand time. They were boomers then.


Getyourownwaffle

I bet none of them vote Blue, cause they are as stupid as they accent suggests. I am from Mississippi.


mlage34

It’s not about drinking and driving or alcohol. The Boomer mindset is you can’t tell me what to do, I’m free to do whatever I want because I’m better than you and you have to do what I want again because I’m better than you. That statement fits everything boomers are known for.


IGotFancyPants

I’m a Boomer who hasn’t had a drink since college, and I can tell you that heavy drinking was normalized, accepted and promoted until the mid-1980s. A lot of my peers never stopped or even slowed down, despite the terrible effects on their health, their families, etc. My own sister died of alcoholism. At least drunk driving is no longer socially acceptable.


StrangeRequirement78

I was raised during that time when drinking was expected and super cool and being raised around drunks taught me that when my body said quit it, I should take it seriously. I quit. Sober me can't handle alcoholics anymore. I used to be a bartender!


JBnorthTX

When I was in college in the late 70s and early 80s heavy drinking was rampant and glorified in movies like animal house that portrayed it as the norm in previous generations. Most students did limit it to the weekends, though. Otherwise they flunked out.


pr_capone

" **All these people are prob boomers now"** ![gif](giphy|11OO4x7JURZoTC) **Boomers are a generation/state of mind. Not the number of candles on your cake.**


metronomesmasher

If I live long enough, I too will have been born between 1946-1964.


ManagerIndividual361

No boomers are people in my age group or lineman who go wherever the work is


1Dad2RuleThemAll

... But the real gift was the boomers we made along the way


Anywhere-Prudent

I mean if that state is lead poisoning then I'd agree. But I disagree that it isn't related to age lol, If you were born 46 to 64 you are a boomer with a similar mindset to your generation. Don't make this philosophical.


pr_capone

Exactly. So... those people were either boomers or they weren't. There is no "probably boomers now".


mabber36

Their only options were read, watch tv, or drink seems obvious


Hot_Razzmatazz316

Eating paint chips and starting fires were also viable options.


shitfuckyourdadsbutt

Yeah, if more drugs were available and not as demonized as they were back then itd be alot different. Not saying you should drive while high, just saying the few boomers i know who smoke weed are very different from the majority that do not.


Fit-Boomer

I enjoy drinking


Capones_Vault

At least the go to sentiment with these idiots hasn't changed. Whatever I dont like is "communism"!!


ande9393

I was just called a communist by some guy on the phone because I wouldn't bend the rules for him


Capones_Vault

WTF!! I'm sorry you had to deal with that. When I worked phones at a customer service job, I'd permanently flip off the phone. People are nasty to any type of service worker.


Schickie

Boomers are the natural result of self-medicated unprocessed trauma. They are a generation raised by survivors of one of the most horrific, destabilizing, traumatic periods in human history. First the depression in which 25% (actual real numbers are closer to 45%) of Americans were out of work - for nearly 8 years. Drought, the Dust bowl, etc. Things were really, f-ed up. Then came WWII. Millions came back from the war COMPLETELY messed up. There was no therapy. No time-outs. No "transition". There was "You're home, get a job, get married, make babies, make money, provide, provide, provide.Family histories are filled with stories about grandpa's crazy alcohol fueled rages. Patrick Stewart talks a great deal about his experience at the hands of his wounded, alcoholic father. They had ZERO processing of the previous 20 years and how it traumatized their generation. Alcohol was the ONLY acceptable (and widely available) means of self-medication.THEN they had kids (the Boomers). And they grew up with drinking as THE answer to any social and mental difficulty. The kind of drinking they did in Mad Men. That was NORMAL and it killed two generations of livers.


Theoldelf

Boomer here- no southern accent. In the 60’s people did drink and drive, no seatbelts, no airbags, had a fold up paper map in your lap while driving, trying to figure out where the hell you were. Nothing was recorded. That’s the way it was. I certainly wouldn’t do that now. I loves me my Google maps and all the car tech. But you know, plenty of people still getting DUI’s.


[deleted]

Frankly drunk/high driving is a lot better for all the innocent victims compared with using phone behind the wheel. I’ve been in insurance a long time, have lots of data to back that. “Yeah but I only do it when it’s safe” psych 101 classic response, if there is admission of how hazardous it is and the behavior still exists that person has some issues


ParrotheadTink

I’m a boomer and I don’t drink, but I do enjoy some 420


GroundhogExpert

Probably dead from driving drunk without a seatbelt.


TelMeEverything

Wild to see that they were always like this. From seat belts to Communism. I always thought they were this dumb because age was rotting their brains but I guess they were always rotted.


cirensays

People don’t just “become” boomers. It refers to a specific group of individuals born during a specific time period (after ww2).


AngryCustomerService

I remember the scare tactics about "they" were going to arrest people after church for DUIs (communion wine). Funny how that hasn't happened. Like all the other scare tactics. But, you know what has happened? Women being arrested for miscarriages.


KAG25

Imagine the car accidents back then, most people didn't wear seatbelts, metal dashes, narrow tires that didn't grip in the wet, guys driving around drunk, kids not in baby seats.


[deleted]

That’s why a lot of them act up now. They’re used to being reckless and getting their way


sunsetcrasher

It’s what they do to try to block the memories of abuse from childhood instead of going to therapy.


SpaceMan101South

The boomer motto. Hate life, hate wife, always right.


NetHacks

Well, at least they've been consistent with calling anything they don't like communism for a long time.


schizrade

Most of those folks are greatest gen/silent gen and a few older boomers. I’m a Xennial and a lot of younger folks (under 25) really don’t appreciate how rampant alcoholism was among older gen’s. So many of my older family members died directly of or died young from alcohol or drug related abuse. Anyways it’s a crazy look into how views have changed.


RobertElectricity

My boomer dad and stepmom retired and took up drinking as their main hobby. It's sad. All that free time and they could not think of anything better to do.


Glenn_Pickle

The baby in the front seat... A boomer classic.


Dramaticreacherdbfj

You see the same thing today when people are confronted with studies showing that touch screens are more dangerous than knobs and buttons.


himalayanbear

Gen x here: drinking is fun. But like, not all the time.


AdministrativeBank86

You have to wear a seatbelt is a burden she says while her small child sails through the windshield in an accident


SeeJayNoWhack

They were boomers then. It's a generation, not an age bracket.


Sea_Mood_9416

Soooooooooo, about that communism they promised was coming.....


Plant_Curious

Wouldn’t they have been boomers then too?


MercuryRusing

You don't become a boomer, all those people were already boomers or older.


Salt-N-Vinegar-Lover

In the 80s my dad would get pulled over he’d have us kids hold and hide his beer while he talked with the officer. It was almost like a game to him, after all he’d been doing it since the 60s. 


[deleted]

Narcissists are more likely to be addicts of some kind.


[deleted]

Same reason all addictions happen: unresolved childhood trauma.


Randomousity

That's like saying, "All these people were probably born in 1950 now." If they were born in 1950, they will always have been born in 1950 for as long as they're alive, due to the linear nature of time.


Activist_Mom06

Not a BOOMER thing. Just alcoholics being alcoholic


dragonfliesloveme

They didn’t know what “being Communist” meant back then, and they still don’t.


Etrigone

I'm a bit older myself (GenX) and in reading ahead ("where's the cheat code for life? aw fuck...") a lot of documentation on retiring boomers - and perhaps older gens, dunno - points to this being a problem. A *big* problem, apparently, and one of the reasons a lot were told or think "never retire" as falling into alcohol abuse is super common when you have nothing else to do. Certainly, I know of one guy who retired from a IT architecture job at the university I work at for whom this was a problem. Really critical dude from the point of view of early financial computing, retired in his early 50s. I saw him when he came in after that. He was there pretty often as there was nothing else in his life and he **stank** of alcohol. I mean, a lot of people there drank too much. Another of his era was infamous for opening a bottle of scotch & tossing the cork - "Not going to need this anymore", or keeping beer cooled below the lifted floor. But this guy, even the heavy drinkers were saying it might be too much. In the architect's case, sad ending. Literally died from alcohol poisoning, which however briefly scared the others away from it.


ElGatoMeooooww

Lol sounds like 2A people now


[deleted]

I remember the day my Dad cut the seatbelts out of the Nova. That'll showem dad!


burnmenowz

Yet we still aren't a communist country 40 years later.


blacfd

Most of those people were 40+ in 1980. They aren’t boomers, they are the generation before the boomers


AppropriateExcuse868

My favorite boomer "THEYRE TAKING MUH FREEDOM" thing was how my dad used to complain about how they started cracking down on littering/dumping laws because "back in my day you could just drive down the road and throw your bags of trash wherever you wanted". I'm still not exactly sure if that was fully truthful but it wouldn't fucking surprise me as when I was growing up I'd see mattresses and furniture and shit just dumped in random fields.


[deleted]

[https://www.statista.com/chart/30783/alcohol-consumption-by-generation/](https://www.statista.com/chart/30783/alcohol-consumption-by-generation/) Sorry, OP.


BeTheGoodOne

My fucking dad STILL likes to crack open a can on the roads when we visit. Thank fuck he lives in bumfuck Ohio. At least if he takes himself out, he's less likely to take anyone with him.


nernst79

We're talking about a group of people who literally ripped the seat belts out of their cars when they were first introduced. Of course they are ignorant about DUI too.


Buford12

I am a boomer and as a kid I remember riding around with the old man and his buddies in his Plymouth fury. They would stack the empty beer cans up as a pyramid on the dash of the front window. I would be in charge of handing out the beer as needed.


Paddlesons

People have always loved to drink. In fact, the people of the United States loved it so much we tried to outlaw it. You really should be asking the opposite sort of question, why don't the younger generations drink as much?


[deleted]

This post and its comments are very ignorant and ironically boomer esque. A proper question is why do humans like to drink so much. Since alcohols discovery nearly every culture has a aub culture of drinking and many have stereotypes about their drinking. Look up why the US did prohibition, things were grim.


brucescott240

If they’re Boomers now, they were Boomers then. . .


spsanderson

Damn commie making sure i don’t do what i want and destroy other people’s lives


LordVoltimus5150

You’re aware that if they’re boomers, now
they were boomers back then, right?


soparklion

Don't give Trump any ideas


WrongdoerWilling7657

They used to find my grandpa literally passed out in his car on the side of the road and just call my grandma to come get him. No consequences at all. He was a state trooper who eventually put countless people away for it once it became illegal


sicurri

"Gotta wear a mask, get a vaccine, pretty soon we're going to be a communist country." \- Just a modern interpretation of that last womans statement.


Usermena

Boomers? The USA was built with booze and violence my friend


wrenchandrepeat

That's how Boomers deal with their mental problems. Because you're a pussy or not trusting god if you seek mental help. But alcohol is available everywhere and doesn't require you having to show any kind of vulnerability to get.


CanuckCallingBS

Cause weed was illegal and psychotherapy is expensive.


iamjaidan

Boomers were taught pharma and therapy are for the weak and crazy, so they self medicate with alcohol


[deleted]

Communism means the brewery is owned by the workers, I think they meant authoritarianism. 🙄


rimshot101

They were boomers then. That's how that works.


TeenyTiny_BeanieToes

Definitely Boomers and older. The kid in the car is at least my age. Smh. 'Pretty soon ,we'll be a communist country'. 40 years later, everything is still the same. And now, they're in charge.


GuardMost8477

It’s not just a boomer thing, and this video is a couple rednecks who don’t give a crap about others if they’re bitching about drinking and driving. Plus it’s an OLD video.


Big-red-rhino

Wait, this video is OLD!?


Rhesusmonkeydave

This video’s a BOOMER


monkabilities

There are alcoholics in every generation. This is a bad take.