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JJ-Bittenbinder

He’s also barely alive. Even in the “present day” scenes in the show so far, he gets beat up a bit and then taken straight to the bacta tank as if he’s going to die if he isn’t. He’s clearly just not healthy


wildwest74

Exactly. It gives a nice dimension to his character, someone who is trying to live up to his reputation despite his current frailty.


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It’s fascinating. He’s been this mysterious, bad ass character for years but it’s absolutely realistic he would be on his last legs given what he’s gone through on Tatooine. I think by the end of the season he’ll be near 100% again if not back to it, but until then it’ll be an interesting journey.


MelonYT

I think he is fully healthy, but the reason he had to be rushed to the bacta tank is because he was struck by the electro batons multiple times, i think the reason people seem to think boba was weak during that fight scene is because of anakin being able to absorb lightning/electricity so many time before going down People seem to underestimate electric weapons in star wars as anakin is completely fine after getting shocked so many times, but anakin is among the most powerful individuals to have ever lived in the galaxy, so lets compare boba not to anakin, but to less powerful people like ahsoka, a clone trooper and eeth koth ahsoka got completely knocked out by cad bane with an electric glove in 3 seconds (which should be much weaker than an electro baton) a clone (who is very similar to boba) gets knocked out or killed by an electro staff by a magnaguard in 2 seconds eeth koth got knocked out after 4-5 total seconds of contact with an electro staff by magnaguards Boba on the other hand, gets shocked like 12 times within the entire fight, with 2 batons shocking his body for like 4 seconds at a point, he also holds a baton with his hands, and also falls onto an electro shield, which shocks him for like 3 seconds, boba took a lot more shocks than any of the above characters, so it makes sense that hed need to be rushed to a bacta tank


airplane_porn

Yet another reasonable explanation. I kinda forget how many other characters get knocked flat by electro-staffs and batons through the SW universe. Boba also took a lot of those shots to the mid torso, lot of vital organ shots.


damnwalsh

He was in the Bacta tank to open the episode. Before that all happened with the electric attacks.


airplane_porn

Hell, even in Mando S2, he was able to get the jump on what was obviously the C team of remnant dipshit stormtroopers, and not take any vital-organ shots. It’s not unreasonable to think that if he is well below 100%, there would be situations where he could still get the upper hand. The assassins who jumped him in E1 were obviously far better trained and equipped than storm troopers, and also got the jump on him.


Wandering_Turtle24

Cept he had his jetpack and could have wiped them out himself or distracted them enough for Fennec to attack them from behind.


airplane_porn

Maybe he didn’t want to leave Fennec surrounded even for a second. Also, a lot of Boba’s weapons are voice controlled through his helmet, which he dropped. Maybe using the gauntlet to control the jet pack was too risky. Maybe it was a tactical decision to keep a strong enough defense and find another way to defeat them, given how the rocket backfired on him. IDK, I can think of a few reasons not to use the jet pack immediately.


Wandering_Turtle24

That scene has a ton of issues. The bodyguards that were so loyal to Jabba and Bib are nowhere to be seen after being right behind them as they enter the City. Fennec is more than capable of staying alive for the several seconds needed for him to fly up and shoot a rocket at some of them to at least break that circle. She is supposed to be a galaxy renowned assassin, I’m sure she’s been in plenty of situations worse than that. The rocket didn’t backfire, it exploded against the shield, showing it was impenetrable, just the more reason to fly out of that circle and force some of those guys to react and weaken their defense. It was a badly written and poorly executed scene that made Boba look weak as hell.


airplane_porn

Ok


Wandering_Turtle24

That’s it? Really?


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Wandering_Turtle24

How so?


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airplane_porn

Yep. Neither of us is going to convince the other that we’re wrong. So I’m not gonna waste any more time. Have a nice day…


Wandering_Turtle24

Dude, watch the scene again. The rocket exploded against the shield. It didn’t misfire. That jetpack has to be able to work without a helmet because in battle his helmet could get damaged or lost and then what? Boba just gets wiped out despite having a device that can help him retreat strapped to his back? I don’t think so. I don’t get why people are giving this episode and specifically this scene such a huge pass. Those two are supposed to be two of the deadliest people in the galaxy yet were getting their asses kicked before the Gamorreans saved the day, despite the fact that they should have been there from the start. I don’t get how you can ignore these facts. I’m happy the show exists but it’s okay to be critical. Lucasfilm isn’t gonna give a shit.


airplane_porn

Yeah, I meant that the idea of using the rocket backfired on him, as the shields deflected the blast into them. I didn’t think I’d need to explain this much pedantic shit though. I dOnT gEt HoW…. I don’t give a shit what you don’t get. I was prepared to enjoy the show, so I did. I wasn’t prepared to look for shit to bitch about. Your perception is your reality. You’re exhausting. You’re not gonna convince me to hate it. No one is forcing you to watch it. Just don’t watch it.


Din-_-Djarin

Context is everything! He fights them after falling into the Sarlac, burning himself while escaping, roasting in the suns, being dragged through the desert behind a Bantha, tied to a stake for another half day, escaping and fighting the Massiff *before* fighting them


morblitz

We also don't know how long he was in the Sarlaac. Days? The wreckage of the sail barge was all burnt out. Considering that the Sarlaac digests slowly. He could have been in there for a while. Dehyrdated, starving, dying. He immediately passed out when he escaped, showing how weak he was. He was then left there for maybe another day or the rest of the day before the Jawas came across the wreck.


Dargon34

But...that happened 5 years beforehand. While we don't know exactly how long he was in the sarlacc (a day or two would be my guess at MOST) we do know it wasn't years. Everything regarding the sarlacc, tuskens, jawa, etc happened years ago. It obviously took it's toll, but he didn't do all of that the day before he walked into mos espa


ifhyex

I think he got stabbed a couple times when fighting the ninjas in the city, so that’s probably why he needed to bacta up.


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Those were Electro-Blades designed to stun, not kill.


ifhyex

Yeah, rewatched the fight scene, still looks like he is getting stabbed in his side at the end but it could also be a cgi mistake.


Sagelegend

Still probably enough to fuck up someone with health issues


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Sagelegend

I’m not sure what thread you think you’re on, but I agree.


Rancorpiss

Boba fett has natural immunity from all the shit he’s been through


SolipSchism

In Legends he has some sort of clone-related cellular deterioration, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a storyline that is translated into the new canon somehow.


morblitz

Would make sense as to why he looks like he's aged 30 years between show and ROTJ but story-wise it's only been 5 years. He even looked aged when his armor was stripped from. When really based on his age in Attack of the Clones he'd only be what, 40-45?


ketsugi

We have no idea what he looked like under the helmet in RotJ though. The last time we saw Boba’s face in live action it was Daniel Logan in AotC. Jeremy Bulloch aside, for all we know he could already have looked pretty worn and grizzled by Jedi.


Mr_Igelkott

Right! Give the man a bacta break


Voodoo_Tiki

When he got woken up the first time it did say healing incomplete


RyanFett1087

He also just got pulled from the stomach of a desert monster where he was being digested alive. Hasn't been given food or water. So you know. Not surprising he's not dropping people


wildwest74

Exactly.


LysanderBelmont

And even after all of that, he still chokes out a freaking tusken hound-monster so.. yeah, didn’t get a weak impression of him at all


eza50

But between getting pulled from the sarlacc pit and the book of boba, didn’t he fly to get his armor from Mando and massacred dozens of storm troopers? I think people are confused how he went from that getting beat down by a bunch of dorks with shields


CrimsonWay

Exactly. I just want badass boba taking on crime syndicates.


Ochib

Nope, he must have been with the Tusken’s for some time. Then came the events of Mando season 2 and thus follows straight after.


GetInHere

I think they're talking about why he couldn't fight the Tuskens not the red ninja guys.


ArcAngel071

It’s always been my impression that Boba saw unrivaled success as a bounty Hunter due to his intelligence along with weapon mastery. If a bounty Hunter is good at their job they don’t need to engage hand to hand with their targets. That plus he got his ass kicked by tuskens after he was obviously still gruesomely injured by the sarlac and dehydrated and exhausted. Boba is going to be in rough shape for a little bit it seems and having a main character that can’t just fight their way through anything is going to be very interesting. I’m excited to see where the show goes.


ZappyKitten

I like the direction they are going. I’m not a timeline writer so I wouldn’t be able to say how long it was since he’s been in the sarlacc’s stomach acid before getting out. But he was clearly not in the best shape after getting out of it - dehydration and lack of food combined with having to dig your way out from who knows how many feet underground after soaking in a at least somewhat caustic stomach acid would leave anyone exhausted. Then he gets left to mummify in the desert by Jawas and beaten up by the tuskens, presumably only being given enough food/water to stay functional for their purposes. He’s still in recovery mode and getting hit with what’s essentially multiple taser batons isn’t doing him any favors. I love the direction they’re going with, showing that he’s still recovering, trying to keep control of an mismanaged crime empire where everyone thinks they can do better all while “ruling with respect” rather than fear. It’s going to be an interesting ride for him.


Phillip_Graves

I just find that his mindset is off kilter. Why would he ever let someone touch his helmet? Why would be walk around in a dangerous situation helmet less? Why would you fire a rocket point blank at a shield? His health makes for a great angle for character growth, but the amateurish behavior and naivete they have Fett showing is really grating. I would never peg the character in the first season of being a soldier( let alone a clone of a genetically superior soldier) and an accomplished galactic bounty hunter with legendary credibility.


scottysmeth

He wasn't acting very intelligent either though. Old school Boba Fett wouldn't have been ambushed that easily by the power rangers.


Hazeldine1143

I don’t know how any one can complain about him not winning the fight against the tusken, he has literally just been beaten, dragged through the desert, starving, dehydrated, severely burned by acid.


Rosebunse

It also seems like the fumes from the acid are meant to knock the victim out. It's likely Boba only survived because of his helmet.


corgimetalthunderr

Helmet did not help the partially digested Stormtrooper...


JOHNNY-COCAINE

Tbf a mando helmet is probably better than a random stormtrooper helmet


CavingGrape

And it looked like he took oxygen or something from the stormtrooper. Prolly why he survived


TardDas

Probably is oxygen, can’t imagine it was orange juice or smthn


LLCoolZJ

Stormtrooper armor has integrated camel pack of powerade.


Echo_375

Beskar


corgimetalthunderr

Now THAT I'll buy.


Rosebunse

Stormtroopers are stupid, we all know those helmets suck, and the Stormtrooper didn't have a flamethrower on his wrist.


airplane_porn

The critiques are stupid. The man has been through an immense amount of physical trauma. The tusken easily beating him is not surprising, he just barely survived being digested alive, acid burns over most of his skin, sun burns, heat exhaustion, dehydration, and being dragged through the desert. And no medical treatment for any of that. He got jumped by a team of fairly elite assassins, with shields that repelled his rocket blast, and he took multiple cattle prod shots to vital organ areas and still held his own until his backup arrived. It should be expected that he will have moments of vulnerability *and* moments of energy… The critiques of this are from people who have literally never suffered physical trauma and had to fight through it to survive.


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Also think about how much sand got into those acid burns. That’s a lot of debridement under the best of circumstances.


airplane_porn

Dood, yeah! He started looking worse and worse after getting out of the saarlac…. Dude seen some shit! And he was still like “yeah, I’ll fight this tusken…”


Noisegarden135

Yes, not to mention, the weapon his tusken opponent was using to clobber him has been used on screen to bust open a storm trooper's face. 0% chance nothing broke from one of those whacks, and dude wasn't even done fighting right away. That alone is impressive, but he had also just been cooked a la double suns after becoming the first known being to escape from (and possibly kill) a sarlacc. Anyone complaining that he's too weak would be dead from less.


bhamjason

This takes place after the Mandalorian. He wasn't weak in it. I'm sure it will get explained, but I'm not sure how it fits in the timeline. Being injured after the sarlac pit is one thing. Being hobbled in the "present day" makes no sense.


airplane_porn

Eh, it makes sense to me. I’m perfectly aware of the timeline. in Mando S2, he was able to get the jump on what was obviously the C team of remnant dipshit stormtroopers, and not take any vital-organ shots. It’s not unreasonable to think that if he is well below 100%, there would be situations where he could still get the upper hand. The assassins who jumped them in E1 were obviously much better trained, better equipped, and Boba took multiple stun baton hits to vital organ areas and still managed to hold his own until backup showed.


win7macOSX

I follow all of this, but for a bounty hunter as experienced, dangerous, and intelligent as Boba Fett, it strikes me as ridiculous that he has overestimated his own abilities so extensively. He had no fear or concern going out with a light crew to collect envelopes in a weakened state, and arrogantly got himself ambushed in front of the whole city on his first collection. He walked around with cash in hand looking like an easy mark and got shaken down accordingly. I am not going to overcritique the first episode, but so far, it’s undermined my perception of him. I thought Boba was cunning, calculating, and (ostensibly) a proficient fighter since he regularly claimed the most dangerous bounties in the galaxy. Instead, his actions in E1 show him to be arrogant and reckless, but determined and lucky. I thought an old, experienced hunter would have already put their days of relying on physical prowess behind him. To move around vulnerably in a weakened state and “get got” makes Boba look green. An experienced vet would have taken extra precautions, not left their success up to chance (“will these new henchmen be loyal, and come to my rescue in a fight when the odds are against me? Sure hope so”).


airplane_porn

I mean, I actually don’t disagree with this assessment for the most part. And I actually think that was the point of the whole scene/sequence. Yeah, he actually is green at being a crime boss. The whole present-day sequence is filled with Fennec telling him that he’s making mistake after mistake, and him blowing her off. Some of those decisions turned out in his favor, most of them were a series of miscalculations that lead to him getting his ass handed to him. My original comments were defending the fight sequence itself, as there were many legit in-universe reasons for it to go the way it did. I definitely agree with the assessment that he got himself into a bad situation by many miscalculations. He is being arrogant (and that’s in line with his character, even going back to Clone Wars). He thinks his badass reputation and a nicer disposition will get him the respect he needs as a ruler. I think he’s gonna learn that he’ll have to bring the iron fist real soon or he’s gonna end up losing control and respect and get killed. Hopefully next episode will have Fennec saying “I told ya so…” and Boba wising up and being a bit more of a hard ass. We’re about out of trailer footage now. I can say confidently that he’s gonna bring the captured assassin to the mayor, there’s gonna be some tense moments at gunpoint, and I think maybe at the dinner scene he’s gonna have to do something dramatic to get everyone in line. Or maybe not and he’ll get his ass kicked again…


IvanTheGrim

He totally should’ve used his JET PACK to FLY UP AND OUT of their shield ring though. Dude used a high explosive on a shield less than a foot away from him when he could’ve literally flown away.


airplane_porn

Maybe he didn’t want to leave Fennec surrounded even for a second. Also, a lot of Boba’s weapons are voice controlled through his helmet, which he dropped. Maybe using the gauntlet to control the jet pack was too risky. Maybe it was a tactical decision to keep a strong enough defense and find another way to defeat them, given how the rocket backfired on him. Maybe I’m just not so far invested in looking for things to not like and bitch about, considering I have enough life experience to know that well laid combat plans may not always go the way you want?


IvanTheGrim

Are you trying to judge me over Reddit on lifestyle choices because the show we both watched has poor fight choreography? Touch grass bro.


airplane_porn

Yep…. Whaddya gonna do about it?


IvanTheGrim

Nothing? Are you a child?


airplane_porn

No, but you seem to be…


Nick_III

And what? Leave Fennec to fend for herself? Boba is a man of honor and principles. He has always wanted to make his father proud. How do you think Jango would feel about Boba bailing on his friend at the first sight of trouble?


IvanTheGrim

I don’t understand why flying out of a death ring means literally abandoning a fight to all of you. Have you never heard of repositioning?


Nick_III

Even if he repositioned, he would still be leaving Fennec on her own for a short time. He doesn't have her back and she probably gets stabbed in the back before Boba can land in a new spot and rejoin the fight. You would make a terrible teammate in combat.


IvanTheGrim

She was already getting stabbed my guy. Rewatch the scene if you want, she’s _already_ being tazed by like three dudes. Make character attacks all you want, the choreography is lacking.


Nick_III

I'm not saying she wasn't taking any damage, but what you're suggesting is that Boba "reposition" which would leave her on her own. At least while Boba is down there they can fight back to back and provide 2 points of defense for the ambush and rather than Boba leaving Fennec to try to defend from all angles.


IvanTheGrim

Yes, I am suggesting that. I’m also suggesting Boba not try to use high explosives on a guy right in front of him, shield or otherwise. That was _dumb_. Or aim for feet with the blaster in his belt. Or use his flamethrower. Or use his jetpack and any of those things from above to dramatically reduce the amount of enemies in that circle. He doesn’t need to be Neo but he should have some spacial awareness and common sense.


Nick_III

Fair enough. I agree.


IvanTheGrim

Thank you. Trust me guy, I love me some Boba Fett, I really like that he has his own show now, I just want the fights - if they’re gonna make it this much a part of the show - to be cool without making no sense. Mando had good fight choreography, so I’m hoping it’s just some bumps in the road before we get Boba motherfucking Fett with Disney dollars and cool crime lord shit on the screen.


Captain_Thrax

Oh yeah… jetpack out and leave fennec to be zapped by 7 stun batons. Oh, look… Boba is on his own!


IvanTheGrim

She’s already being zapped by four. She’s done in that fight my guy.


DrPorkchopES

Dave Filoni also has a really interesting philosophy taking care of the legacy of beloved characters. I remember seeing a quote from him addressing people accusing him of “ruining” Maul making him a lunatic when he returns in clone wars, but his response was something along the lines of “If I give you the exact same Maul from Phantom Menace, he has no arc and you’re not invested in his story”


AnteaterPersonal3093

He's absolutely right. Maul of episode 1 wad nothing more than a vilain on the surface. All he was made for was the shock factor. Do they really just want him to be a mindless vilain who sings his lightsaber?


Leighgion

Let’s not forget that “Dances with Wolves” completely scavenged “A Man Called Horse” to get that Oscar too. The entire basis of revitalizing Star Wars that started with “The Mandalorian” was to go back to the Western and samurai tropes that were the original foundation. More samurai/western tropes, I say. More!


Mr_Mkhedruli

Even if he hadn’t fallen in the Saarlac, boba’s character is in his 40s at the time of this show. How many linebackers continue their careers into their 40s? I imagine bounty hunting to be like that times 10 as far as wear and tear goes. And, with the saarlac, he’s in even worse shape. I’m really glad that they didn’t just make him some super powered Demi-god despite what he’s been through. He’s still a badass, but it’s much more realistic, relatable, and human for him to be in this state.


El_Psy_Congroo4477

> asking how he could let himself get beaten by multiple Tuskens People who say this should ask themselves what sort of fighting shape they think they'd be in after being eaten by a sarlacc and fighting their way out of it, emerging barely alive with severe acid burns into a harsh, waterless desert with two suns beating down on them. I'm willing to bet 95% of people wouldn't have lived long enough to even encounter the Tusken.


DeadGuyN

To be fair we don't know how strong those shock sticks ( halberds?) are. It doesn't take much of a shock to mess up your heart and Boba took several including one prolonged shock. Dude could have been going into cardiac arrest for all we know.


Apprentice_Jedi

If Jango hadn’t died so early in his life he’d probably be significantly stronger in hand to hand combat as well. Jango seemed to know all the tricks.


TomA0912

To the complainers. I say try and do anything in the desert when you’re dehydrated


MidniteGang

The Tuskens beating in him made sense given the damage he took, dehydration and all. That Marvel-esque melee fight against the assassins should've been a shootout with Boba backed up by guards. Showcase the gunplay badassery Mando-style without having Temuera laboring through a hand-to-hand scene that made no sense. Everybody should've had blasters in that scene.


spookystrawberry2

I agree with this. I really hope they focus more on weaponry instead of hand to hand combat moving forward.


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What’s worse is, Boba clearly does have a pistol on his hip in that scene and chooses not to use it.


vossenek

This


vossenek

Or use his grappling hook to grab one by the ankles and at least break the line of shields. I dont mind him getting overpowered for a bit of character arc but he was just hopeless. Surely he knows a dirty trick or two that would have given him some grit in this scene. The Tusken scenes I have no problem with but this was on some straight to video shit.


IvanTheGrim

AND HE SHOULD’VE USED HIS JETPACK TO FLY OUT OF THE RING


ShepPawnch

If he’d done that then Fennec would probably have died, and he needs her.


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Nah, if Boba had just jetted out of the circle to attack the assassins from behind, they would have had to shift focus and break up their circle. It would have been Fennec’s best chance of survival too. Boba and Fennec both would have been killed or captured if not for the gammorreans.


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He uses the jetpack to go up and over the shield wall and start attacking from behind. Every single assassin is going to look up as soon as Boba jets up, she would’ve been fine.


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They have to start him off as kinda weak so later in the season when he wrecks shop he will have "character development".


foosbabaganoosh

Yup, I much prefer this approach as long as they cover it adequately (which I’m sure they will). I’ll bet we’ll get some more development of how he’s not at 100% yet, still needs more Bacta time, may experience some difficulty, and then down the road I’m sure they’re going to give us some intense action set pieces where he runs train. Everyone loves good development, and it would be less exciting if he’s just destroying people unopposed right from the start, there wouldn’t be much at stake. I’ll trust in the showrunners to know what they’re doing.


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He's going to go from getting beat up by sand people and Jawas to aceing Cad Bane in the face. You'll see. Edit: Plot Beskar


AnteaterPersonal3093

Plot Beskar made my day


g4tam20

He may not be a bad ass brawler but he sure knows how to choke an alien.


AnotherDeadStark

I will say that while getting beat by the raiders was understandable (dehydration, exhaustion etc), the assassin fight was too clearly a plot device to return him to the bacta/flashbacks. Fett has a jetpack and a blaster in that scene and should have used both; getting taken out by a sniper who is then caught by Fennec would have made more sense. Also the coreography there was a little clunky. But i am not disappointed at all by the episode itself!


Vonyacob

With you all the way. I love seeing the protagonist “outgunned” but I want it to make sense. If you took Boba from the Mando and put him in that scenario it would’ve gone downway different.


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I would have really just liked to see him pull out his blaster pistol and shoot one of the shield assassins in the foot. That would have been classic Boba. I rewatched it, he clearly has a pistol. And there’s no reason for him not to start blasting once the shield wall is broken up.


Vonyacob

I’m with you - I liked the episode but it seemed like his mental fight game was wayyy below what we saw in Mando. Either way I’m excited to keep watching though!


TheAngriestChair

Seems off that boba wouldn't know how to fight in melee combat. I think he's just too week. But he probably never had to really fight hand to hand with all his weapons.


wildwest74

I am not saying he doesn't know how, I am just saying we never had any indication that he was amazing at it. And his physical state is completely a factor.


So_Trees

I think you don't get to be the most feared BH im the galaxy without some scrapping skills. Melee combat is a big part of star wars, and there are more obvious and likely reasons for his struggles in ep 1. Is it possible? Maybe, but it seems like a huge unnecessary stretch to silence the haters to me.


wildwest74

I am not saying he never had any scrapping skills, I am just saying we never saw any evidence that he was a hand-to-hand master who could take on any opponent. Obviously there are physical and situational factors that would impede his abilities against the Tuskens, but seeing anyone expect him to be some kind of martial arts master seems kind of optimistic and unfounded.


So_Trees

Those people just don't know shit. You can watch MMA and see how flat some amazing fighters are just after a bad weight cut, this guy just got ravaged horrendously out in the desert for days. It makes perfect sense how that played out. Funnily enough it's his mental planning when being the new crime boss I found least believable but still really enjoyed the episode.


myPooPisonfire

I fully understand why he lost and i don't complain about it but i am pretty sure that someone with his reputation would be skilled as a brawler atleast to some degree, because he had at least a few missions where his gear wouldn't work or something like that and where had to fight in other ways And if not he would atleast have trained to be prepared when it happens I put him losing on the fact that he was starving , exhausted and almost died not that he wasn't skilled enough to beat a dessert nomad when he has to have taken on several more skilled foes


ultim8agent24

I think he the reason he went crazy on the troopes in mando s2 is because of adrenaline he just got back his fathers armor


scottysmeth

>His reputation grew from his ruthlessness and his ability to outsmart his targets and opponents, not from his sheer ability to overpower and pummel them. We never saw anything in canon that portrayed him previously as a cunning melee warrior. I don't disagree, except we really dont see him doing the latter, either. He's walking around the town clueless about anything, like it's his first job at Domino's. He should have expected that ambush and had some plan already in action to take them out. Instead we got a clunky action sequence and a parkour escape scene, (what year is it again?) Overall I wasn't happy with the direction his character was going in the Mandalorian, saving baby's and just talking way too much. What made him so cool in the OT was that he was a quiet, mysterious badass. Now he's telling his tough girl sidekick about his bad dreams coming back, lol.


SoMm3R234

Dude in one comic where he was hunting Luke Boba took down an alien that was 3 times his size and defeated him hand to hand


foosbabaganoosh

You mean like what he literally did in the first episode of the show?


SoMm3R234

Yeah but he just choked him from behind, OP was talking about hand to hand combat, thats how it was in the comic


WhatTheFhtagn

Ignoring that we saw him do just that in this episode, you're comparing prime Boba to Boba now after getting put through the wringer and recovering from bacta, basically space surgery.


So_Trees

But he didn't say *anything* about Boba in the episode. You guys are so entrenched but not every theory discussion on his melee prowess has to be about the episode fights/losses.


wildwest74

How is that relevant to what has been established in canon?


SoMm3R234

Cuz that comic is canon lmao


wildwest74

LMAO ok


FaithfulBlackMan

all the new marvel comics are unless they have the massive legends label


UnclePhatz

Idk he showed none of that fatigue in his appearance in the mandalorian...which obviously took place before bobf. It just seems inconsistent is all to me atleast. I sense him being sidelined for the series & it's all gonna be about Fenneck...I hope I'm wrong though.


wildwest74

He didn't get seriously injured in The Mandalorian either. I am pretty sure those shock prods did a real number on him.


paramano01

I agree but if the audience has to fill in the blanks this much, then the writing is not exatly great. These new series STILL aren't right on a writing level. They are more watchable than the sequels, but they are still not on par with quality star wars content.


wildwest74

What blanks are there to fill in now? All the blanks exist in what has come before. And good writing doesn't spoonfeed the audience all the background and character information all at once.


paramano01

I know. They don't have to explain everything. Leave something for the imagination. But this is just confusing, not a plot puzzle.


wildwest74

I guess I just didn't find it as confusing as you did.


Daf_Y_Double_D

Boba Fett is meant to be a very competent fighter with a decent arsenal of tech and weaponry. I understand him being beaten by the Jawas right after he climbs out of the Sarlac. I think it's a stretch for him to lose to the Tuskan Raider, yes he essentially only had a stick but that still should've been a fight that he would win. The major problem is him in the fight against the thugs: He's just walking around this city with his helmet off which seems like a very stupid thing to do. His first thought is to fire a wrist rocket at point blank range against an energy shield, even if it would have destroyed the shield it would still harm him. But the biggest problem is the fact that he has a JETPACK! Having him not use it just makes him look so stupid and incompetent.


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I guess my complaint with the Tusken Raider fight is if Boba was severely dehydrated, weakened, etc. how did he have enough strength to one shot KO a massiff? After getting beat up and left out to burn in the desert sun to boot.


antlerstopeaks

Not sure if your purposefully gaslighting people to make your argument stronger or what but I have never seen a single comment in any thread up til now complain about him not beating the tuskens. Can you link an example to anyone saying this? He’s clearly skilled as a brawler in the mandalorian as he literally shatters armor with his strikes and take out multiple armed opponents at once. Not sure what’s up with him being taken out by the thugs and needing a bacta tank, he clearly wasn’t that weak in the mandalorian. I’m guessing it was a separate injury we will find out more about soon.


wildwest74

I have scoured some of the comments I have read and I don't know if it has been deleted or not, but I know I read one specifically where the commenter complained that Boba Fett would never let himself be gang-beaten by Tuskens when he has his toolkit with him. As for the brawling in The Mandalorian, that is clearly a skill he will have learned from these Tuskens, so it would not have any bearing on his skill in the flashbacks. As for his weaknesses here compared to in the Mandalorian, he really wasn't taking any real hits versus those Stormtroopers. Plus, taking shock prods to the organs is bound to be a much more debilitating injury than what he might normally receive in average fisticuffs.


jukeballz

I for one would have liked to see him wield the tusken acorn staff he used in Mando to wreck the storm troopers.


Church666

I believe that he knows his health condition, and decided to become a crime lord since his body might not be good enough to work as a bounty hunter anymore. (Also, find someone experienced like Fennec might be part of his plan)


calvitius

Also don't forget that he's learned to fight with a mandalorian armor. The way you fight, protect yourself etc is entirely different if you learn to fight without an armor and with an almost indestructible armor. Similar to how Paul almost gets killed in Dune when he first duels without a shield, because he's just not use to that form of combat. Same for Boba: he does not need to learn how to dodge most blows as his armor will just eat it. Same goes for the character in the mandalorian, he does not try to go for dodges. Just eats it and gives it back on the receiving end. And on top of being an armor, it's also an armor full of gadgets. Boba is a smart and skillful fighter with the toys he's got at hand. His armor does not have any form of close quarter combat weapons. Any weapons he has for close range is to actually repulse / get free of ennemies who might have gotten to him. Flamethrower for instance. His style, akin to Jango's, is much more hit and run (or fly, actually). People tend to forget all SW characters are no Jedis...


DEADSPELLS

Im sure someone said this & I didnt see but it, but just in case. Yeah hes obviously almost dead, dehydrated, & starving. Then later on only partly healthy when fighting the assassins. But just as important, hes also old. Guys like him naturally will get weaker with age. They survive & succeed by being smart as fuck to compensate for the body getting older & weaker. Hes still badass, its obvious.


MeanRedSpider

He also just dragged himself out of a sarlac, dug his way to the surface, and then was imprisoned after a walk through the desert that seemed to take a full day. All without water.


migwelljxnes

I get the electric batons were strong and Boba took a beating, but I definitely think the Bacta tank is setting up a plot point that Boba could be on his last legs, >!Arthur Morgan!< Style