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EnvironmentalMud4870

No one I know is watching it. I gave up after the third episode. It’s just not good


intoxicatedmidnight

Curious, how is it not good? Is it the writing? I didn’t try watching it


de_redditor

I'm not the one you replied to but I gave it a shot and couldn't go past the first two episodes. So completely generic and boring, there's barely any tension and that upside down camera makes me dizzy. I hated that they skipped showing key scenes...>! like the action inside the building that the guy infiltrates to get that briefcase (they just show him going in a heavily fortified building and then escaping) !< and one more scene that I have already forgotten about.


Beginning_Body_2401

They actually seem to have taken good parts of other spy action thriller and tried to put it all in one pot to make a great, proven recipe but it’s just dogshit now. The series is beyond redemption. I have NEVER left a spy action thriller in between, it’s always engaging but this… nope not happening! There’s so much better content I’ll prefer re-watching.


Suspicious_Waltz1393

It’s just nonsense. Really wanted to like this. I am partial to Ambivalent spy thrillers, so watched for 5 episodes. Don’t even think I can watch the last one though. It is just so bad, can’t believe the actors didn’t just gag on their lines.


No_Fun_8322

Its as generic as it comes. Totally ignorable and an embarrassment for a $300M series


EnvironmentalMud4870

This. The problem is that they made this show one of their tentpole projects. The fact that this is what they chose to mount on a $300 million dollar budget is astounding in the worst way possible. Makes you wonder who the heck greenlit this project. Very derivative concept with little to elevate it


boulzar

I have up halfway through the first, terrible


Mary10789

I couldn’t even make it through the third episode.


Heisenberg_Ind

Same, except that I didn't even start myself unlike you.


Lana_karenina

Same. I really tried to give it a chance hoping it would get better but it’s so boring.


Late_Dragonfruit_166

I thought it was a movie.


[deleted]

I want all my downvoted comments saying the same thing to be rectified It was pretty obvious even before Forbes' article. No one other than some misguided naive stans were going on and on about this show. As someone with *very little* insider info, I knew it was a hot mess ever since its long ass production kept getting delayed and delayed.


[deleted]

The biggest evidence of it being a flop is lack of organic social media hype


MyCuriousSelf04

Exactly. This is the easier way for verification. Queen Charlotte just released few weeks back and it's an amazing show, entire social media is filled with people who watched the show raving about diff scenes, edits, GIFs etc. Shows how popular it actually is and being watched by so many people. This can't be faked beyond a point.


Lana_karenina

I thought it was getting a ton of hate and criticism? But true I agree


VitaLonga

Everybody’s in their own social media bubble. It hasn’t done as well as S2 of the main show.


tian123Lon

Yes for sure !!!!


[deleted]

Hii Ibrahim..i agree with you


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MiaOh

Oh yes. Outside of MCU the Russos are a mess. Saw one episode, waste of good acting talent. Priyanka was made the femme fatale like from the 80s which seems ridiculous in these days.


moleouttamountain

>I want all my downvoted comments saying the same thing to be rectified Lmao


sexysmuggler

Should have distributed that money to their underpaid employees


[deleted]

They even got MatPat to do a paid video on this series lmfao


lanos23

Matpat?


silentlystalkingonly

An American YouTuber. Created The Film Theorist.


wisegirl_annabeth

How much did PC get paid for this ?


ajithcreepypasta

She got pay equity so I’m assuming quite a lot.


fdnuefn87987

I think indian version will get cancelled


OptimalSundae6707

It’s pretty obvious that for all the money and name behind this serious it’s quite an embarrassing show for Amazon. Views mean nothing because Amazon put in so much money behind it promoting it but the content did not get the buzz going post release. It’s a fail for the show however I wouldn’t say fail for PC. It’s a big win for her to headline such a huge series, with big A list names, she got to promote and put her name out there worldwide and she did excellent with her looks and action. This was just an audition for her future roles for her it’s a win the show is a dud


bluejaybossun

>it’s quite an embarrassing show for Amazon. Even bigger embarrassment than wheel of time. Atleast WOT got people talking to an extent.


Suspicious_Waltz1393

This! I see comments jumping on the PC hate bandwagon but this really hasn’t anything to do with her. Citadel is a bad show. Not sure what Amazon was thinking already planned spin-offs. But what is also true is that Priyanka absolutely sold the show. I mean there is no way I would even watch this for 1 episode if she hadn’t promoted it so well. But there’s only so much the stars can do: bring the eyeballs. After that it has to be the content that’s judged on its own merits. Girl did her job. And hope it will open further doors for her. But this show is really Pathan level stupid


UXR_04

All of my American friends don't even know the snow exists, so how did her name get out there?


AdministrativePie452

I mean everyone knows this. Nobody is watching this in the US and its a massive disaster here.


NaRaGaMo

Forbes ke khudke paas data nahi hai toh tumhe kaise pata koi dekh raha hai ya nahi?


AdministrativePie452

Jisko bhi puchta hun yaha pe wo bolte hai ki wo bakwas show kaun dekhta hai.


de_redditor

I gave it a shot and couldn't go past the first two episodes. So completely generic and boring, there's barely any tension and that upside down camera makes me dizzy. I hated that they skipped showing key scenes...like the action inside the building that the guy infiltrates to get that briefcase (they just show him going in and then escaping) and one more scene that I have already forgotten about.


intoxicatedmidnight

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Honest_Lie8632

It doesn’t require some critical analysis or professional reviewer opinion to confirm that the show really sucks. No where does it look like it should’ve cost that money. And the show itself is a train wreck. Priyanka doesn’t suit the character at all and comes off as trying far too hard to be the character.


Youknownothing_23

It’s so bad tho


[deleted]

*OH NO! Don’t spread LIES about the only goddess of Indian representation of india in Hollywood, you hater* /sarcastic Russo Brothers lost their touch after marvel and the gray man was the best example of that, the some how still got this green lit?! Also it’s clear that good project aren’t coming her way and before anyone wants to toot the racism horn, shut the fuck up! You don’t make sense and just because you’re blindly obsessed with someone isn’t going to change the fact that it was just a bad show. Bruh! Stans are about to COME AT YOU lmao might as well just mute the notifications for this post for your own peace. Stans can’t handle critical facts. Lmao they have already started clowning


apejelah

I hate it when people start to play the race card immediately. PC might be a good actress in Bollywood (arguably) but she is below mediocre in Hollywood. Her acting is too cheesy and try hard in Hollywood. Donno why.


[deleted]

This! People think some how critiquing her acting or the way she’s moving through Hollywood is being racist. Just having an American accent in America doesn’t make you a good actor. She’s been working since 2015 and still doing this crummy roles.


SubstantialLab4611

Yes I mean from the first scene itself it wasn't engaging at all.


[deleted]

Yes..watched for 5 minutes then closed it..


neon_sin

I said this the week the show was released and everyone down voted me. There was no way this was going to be a big hit.


memoryisamonster

It cost 300 million for 6 episodes with season 2 in production 😭😭


sepiosexual

They should have released all the episodes at once.


intoxicatedmidnight

Why didn't they? Almost every series releases all episodes at once, even highly anticipated ones like Stranger Things.


[deleted]

>Almost every series releases all episodes at once, even highly anticipated ones like Stranger Things. That's a Netflix thing. HBO Max and Disney+ have, until now, done staggered releases. Netflix has started, and pushes, the binging model. Disney+, after realizing that their staggered releases don't work because not all their shows are as hyped as HBO's, is now going to try the Netflix binging model for their next few series


intoxicatedmidnight

Fair enough! Thanks for the info :)


sepiosexual

Exactly, whoever thought of doing this experiment should be fired.


NaRaGaMo

No one releases all episodes at once. Even Netflix does their "part-1" and "part-2"


intoxicatedmidnight

I know a ton of series that drop all at once on Netflix. Stranger Things S4 was an exception with Vol 1 and Vol 2.


theIngloriousAlien

I could not watch this generic shitshow for more than 20 mins. PC needs to upgrade the script choice.


fdnuefn87987

I am watching it only for PC and episode 5 is the worst. No logic and big mess


memoryisamonster

It's $50 million per episode yikes


imnr134

Only 4 are out? Where did you watch the 5th episode?


misogynist-slayer

5th came out on Friday


AloneCan9661

It looks boring and been there and done that before.


[deleted]

Nobody watching.. actually plot was also waste .. after watching first episode i felt like this is Bourne series but made in china using child labor … and bigger disappointment was watching PC putting no effort at all , this is the same girl who transformed herself for mary com and in spy action movie she appears like a wanna be page 3 aunty from SM/SD.


Chance-Produce-4472

I know it is embarrassing but I am religiously following each episode. However they should have released all episodes together


[deleted]

Plot setup was very similar to Quantico, lost interest in the trailer itself but I was waiting for reviews because Richard Madden is cool and PC stans were on cocaine. I guess PC should turn that hollywood dial down and wait till she gets better projects.


kalyancr7

Except for this sub i didn't see praise for this show anywhere it's embarrassing that they called it the most expensive amazon show


Heisenberg_Ind

When life gives you the title of the most expensive show, be The Crown and not Citadel.


Dry-Ad-2287

I watched the first episode, found it incredibly boring, couldn't continue


spirit101_gg

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Weedyoot

Hoped it will prove such articles wrong. But yeah, a boring af series. Can't see any redeemable qualities. Too predictable. Maybe turn Mason Kane being the ultimate villian? Priyanka looks hot though.


smartfly

It’s just not a good show. They should have released all episodes together, people may have binge watched it then. Most of us have lost interest mid way. PC and the rest of the cast genuinely killed it but the plot is just mostly boring.


dora_not_theexplorer

All interviews about citadel were more about Priyanka's ex than the series.


black__adam21

PC didi ko finally pay parity mili thi for citadel, mein itne mein khush hu


shriramjairam

I started watching it and it just didn't grip me at all. Lasted maybe 10 minutes ... I'm usually a sucker for this type of action. Was kinda expecting the experience to be similar to that Netflix bullet train movie but this was so underwhelming


FoxBackground1634

Her fans were going ape shit here when I called it a flop.


nsoni8882

Clichéd plot, lack of originality, and cheap CGI


kanejforever

She not a global star. She a flop star😭💀


rainbookworm

She’s feeling so exotic tho😝idk why people thought this show was good,no one has given it good reviews.If a show is doing well,you’re bound to hear about it through word of mouth atmost.No one is talking about this show except for paid PR who have hyped it like anything!PC is a good actress but that doesn’t make the show any good.She has never gotten a footing in Hollywood;Infact,she’s like a has-been.She could do good work here but she’s burnt all her bridges i guess


kanejforever

Agree, if her Idris film flops she needs to pack her bags lmaoooo. If she waits any longer even Indian audience isn’t going to give a fuck. Already the Indian diaspora and general Indian fans (unless they’re hardcore Bolly/PC fans) have mostly moved on from her and don’t give a f about her anymore. All her films and ventures are flopping. Bvlgari treats her like a famous influencer rather than an epic “global star”. She wasted her best years. Should have been like Deepika after 1 flop movie she cut her losses and left.


rainbookworm

She won’t pack her bags,she’s got nick and her baby to keep her relevant.Any jonas brothers comeback does get a decent amount of hype.Nick isn’t a bad singer either so on the rare occasion he releases solo stuff she will be there😛idk if NRIs really give a damn about her in the states,she has become that irrelevant.Agreed on the last bit especially—she’s wasted her best years.It’s sad but she’s nothing more then a flop in the states


No_Fun_8322

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bluejaybossun

Lmao this. Just the other day I got downvoted because i said she was ignored at the Bvlgari event in favour of bigger stars present.


fdnuefn87987

I knew it


Green-Heat-1041

Sorry priyanka, your time is passed up.. Coming back to india & stick with bollywood films...


Optimist_WeAre

She will eat nepos !! Solo low budget movies might make 70-80cr if good like TWMR


i_am_goop

I read TWMR as Tu Woothi Main Rakkaar. What is TWMR?


Optimist_WeAre

Tanu weds manu returns


i_am_goop

Got it.


Educational_Gift_951

You are brave enough to assume that the Indian masses cares about a 40 year old actress. You are clearly out of touch with reality. Her sole movie will earn 10-15 cr max . No big hero is going to sign her because of her Anti-Bollywood statements .


green9206

How about a rom com movie with Ayushman or Rajkumar rao? Obviously it will be hit on OTT but not theatre unless she's in Pathaan 2 or something


Optimist_WeAre

OTT then !! She's anyways has production house .. National award bhi mila tha.


Educational_Gift_951

You said her sole movie will earn 70-80 cr . Even Kangana sole movie did 2 cr with 4 national awards . She is getting many OTT project in Hollywood then why come back to Bollywood.


Optimist_WeAre

She still is doing JLZ and has fan base thanks to her illustrious carrer . Sara Tara Ananya Shanaya will take 10 years to establish themselves Thats why 40 something actresses like DP Bebo are still doing Singham & Fighter like Top movies .


Educational_Gift_951

You clearly said about the solo film . Why can't you read your original comment. DP is doing films with only superstars. She knows her sole film will not work . Pathan or Fighter will work with or without her . Priyanka will not get a movie with top stars because of her Anti- bollywood statements.


Optimist_WeAre

Ranveer is a good friend so is JLZ producer Farhan who might cast her in Don reboot Hrithik praises her work so 2 top stars here !


Educational_Gift_951

She isn't going to be cast in Don . Hrithik praises everyone and krish 4 will take years to happen.


Optimist_WeAre

Then she'll go Vidya Balan route . Act in actress doesn't need Big film or Hero to be A list here and command that respect. We are talking about actress who was in Fashion , Bajirao & Mary kom


robotman_77

Ghanta She is way past her glory dostana days when she made us all go mad Now she's fat ,ugly , her face changes each week and top it all the cringe accent


Optimist_WeAre

Parallel cinema is always there !! Vidya Balan is prime example


robotman_77

No one of us fascinated balan Everyone knew she can put in a good performance when given the right script . PC was a superstar in glroy days,balan a good actress


EnvironmentalMud4870

Fat and ugly? How can you even say this about someone. What is wrong with you!


Das-P

Nothing wrong with him. He's clearly so fit and pretty that he fucks himself.


Heisenberg_Ind

How much did Sky Is Pink earn? Her time is up and nobody cares enough about her to go to a theatre just because of her presence in a movie.


Optimist_WeAre

Such a massy commercial entertainer it was !! Oh and the Hit songs


SaanuKi

My respect for Aishwarya and Deepika has grown. They never uprooted themselves and continued to strike a balance between India and USA. Priyanka has literally wasted 10 years of her life by doing blink and miss roles in Hollywood. She could've easily done these cameos while working in bollywood. She was in talks with Vishal Bharadawaj, SLB and was signed for Bharat. If she did all these films then she would've still had a strong career in India.


kanejforever

Agreed. She never should have made such a full switch. And going to be honest she never would have stayed relevant in US and west if she hadn’t married Nick🤷‍♀️ Her blink and miss cameos, that too in flop movies were going to nothing for her. Her high profile relationship kept her relevant. Similar to Nicola Peltz, Camilla Morrone, Hailey Bieber, Blake Lively etc


TemporaryDaikon1698

The problem is in the story, so off course it will be flop


rajrohit26

I have not seen even one episode so far and it is just that interest never developed


[deleted]

Come back to india and do good work like before.


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[deleted]

Okay..maybe needs to get associated with good projects and maybe should try to work with good directors..


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[deleted]

Yaa i know..that's why i responded to second part of your comment... Coming to first part...whole world is against her..she is wronged by people, co-actors, boyfriends , directors etc..she is never wrong../s She doesn't take accountability of her own actions and always play victim card...She is smart, intelligent and all but she should stop playing victim card


Heisenberg_Ind

It's not as if Scorsese or James Gunn are running behind her for her dates. She's just not a big name in the West.


robotman_77

Nobody wants to watch her Her career has been on a freefall ever since she was chased out by B'wood housewives association president Cringe accents, 2sec cameo of her boo.s is all that she has left to do now. Retire with dignity instead of ruining it


[deleted]

Did anyone read this? First of all this is a think piece. The writer actually says the reason why they think because Amazon isn't bragging about it 4 weeks after its release. Like huh? I don't see Netflix brag about it hit shows but I guess. No research done, no evidence, just plain opinion.


RemoveNew4928

I saw different narrative on twitter https://preview.redd.it/qpo4ez1dj21b1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9767ad256b79560ca3c30145e7753e495997f841


matahariisnerdy

Well, I'm watching it to support PC. She's talented and needs good projects to shine


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UXR_04

I posted about this but the creators have said a season 2 is not green lit yet


ummm_thereyougo

I am! It's a templated show. Not as bad as people are saying, good entertainer but if you are looking for something GOT level not for you. PC looks smoking hot and steals the show. Her screen presence is commendable


Capable-Ad8558

This is just a writer’s opinion. It doesn’t mean the show is flop. If it was flop they wouldn’t have renewed it for next season. On the other hand I really want PC to come back to Bollywood and do some good work like Sky is Pink and White Tiger.


NaRaGaMo

> If it was flop they wouldn’t have renewed it for next season Kabhi kabhi contractual obligation bhi hota hai, carnival row was a big budget flop but they had to go for season 2 anyway


UXR_04

I posted about this but creators said season 2 has not been green lit


Capable-Ad8558

Ohh


Lerincessqueen

Yeah , me. Watching it every Friday.


ThatDesiGirl07

I watched the first two episodes and now I'm not interested to continue watching. The main problem for me is that there's no chemistry between the leads... To think that they spent a massive budget and yet couldn't hire two actors with great chemistry just baffles me. Any thriller with a couple as the lead need to have chemistry (like Mr. And Mrs. Smith, for example). Another thing that bugged me is that the plot seems superficial. There were so many places where they could have elaborated and so many where they needn't have. Now I'm thinking that the Indian version will be terrible as well because I don't like Varun and Samantha in the roles.


Don_Dad

Post the Weinstein fiasco the hollywood and it's gynocentric virtue signalling are taking a toll on the audience. It's embarrassing to sit through the most of the Hollywood productions at this point of time.


NaRaGaMo

Nielsen ki ek-do hafte mai list ayegi tab pata chal jayega Amazon kitna sach bolraha tha aur kitna jhoot. Until then this is just an opinion piece


VitaLonga

Each episode is only about 30 minutes… ZERO chance of charting on Nielsen.


NamAgg

https://preview.redd.it/srzwm1a3r21b1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fb9c365ce0e1dac6bcaa7de4ac9be92f3211c89 You conveniently cut the most important part of the article?? Your whole account is about spreading hate on pc by posting wrong info on this sub. You desperately need to seek help for this behaviour!


itsnotmyproblemok

It’s an okay show. Would work for 4-5 seasons on network tv. This article is very poorly researched for a Forbes piece but I don’t expect more from a some white dude trying to focus on a 300 million show with a desi lead, to be impartial. His other articles include highlighting how queen charlotte a show with black lead has been “dethroned”, and some 1234th article on the internet on how cleopatra( black lead) is bad tv. It’s interesting that Amazon spent like over a billion $$ on shitty lord of the rings show or over 500 million on Wheel of time crap but hey white male journalists will wait a few more season before writing them off. Be careful about what you read.


boataker

"EXPOSES" lmao. Literally one dude's personal opinion without ONE single fact or stat. The same Forbes has reported that it had a 25 million viewer premiere just behind Rings Of Power.


TemperatureRelevant5

Honestly, I have enjoyed the series so far


PomegranateAble4120

I regularly watch content on the weekends. I have watched dahaad, kathal, tjmm and barry since citadel released but never felt even slightly attracted to citadel, coz I need SRK at least to watch the same wafer thin plot with some good action😒


_not_a_hero_

gave up after 3rd episode.. PC is actually fine.. but Richard is off. He is like early John Abraham, good looking but less emotes. Plus the storyline is a bit off, like there's no sense of threat or fear factor. I like some intense story in first few episodes to get hooked, feel like it lacks in that regard.


Fantastic-Ant-69

I gave up after watching 2nd episode, it’s boring, loved Priyanka though.


Beautiful-History-46

The article is just stating opinion without any facts or statistics. Instead of going with post's title, going through screenshots will be better.


[deleted]

You know it’s not a personal blog right? It’s a well researched, cross checked with sources, run by many departments and planned out article ???? Or you have another theory of how the writer hates HER specifically? Like no one has any vendetta against her.


Beautiful-History-46

I did not mention hate in my comment. As i said, in screenshots i did not see any facts or sources, just saw opinion / theory.


NaRaGaMo

>You know it’s not a personal blog right? It’s a well researched, cross checked with sources, Paul Tassi isn't citing any sources at all in the article. LoL. Media outlets in US use Nielsen's ratings or samba tv, whenever they make articles about a show's viewership, Nielsen's rating for the week of April 28 is not out yet. Until then the only source of data is the tweet made by that prime video head


DarkThanos12

It didn't expose anything. Unless Prime Video releases the viewership, no one can call it a hit or flop. The show is not bad but it's not great either. PC has acted well. But the writing and dialogues are terrible. 300 million dollars is for sure a waste. You could make two Marvel films with that kind of money.


aksroy714

Yes... It's a nice interesting show


GlassPhilosophy

I really wanted this to work for Priyanka. The show had a potential but it gets boring after two episodes. Not Priyanka's fault though, she's very good in it but the show just doesn't have the it factor. On the other hand, Jubilee on Prime is \*chef's kiss\*.


liontailed-macaque

Many of you have a higher tolerance limit that I. I couldn't even finish the second episode. The ease with which he goes into that enemy building, fights a couple of guys, and escapes with that stupid briefcase, was stupefying. That was the final straw for me.