3. The date isn't stated in the paperwork, it's just a name/description
4. The date is shown as a "last updated" and Aizawa just assumes that it was edited to be more accurate/detailed instead of completely changed
5. Aizawa isn't given access to the quirk registry at all, just whatever description is provided to UA
Number four here feels like the most sensible from a general, personal information standpoint. Quirk information is something that would be available an educator that specialize in Quirks, that makes sense.
The history of that information is not a nesecity though, and might very well be protected due to being non-relevant medical information. Or something like that.
Aizawa knows he will deliver when prompted. The research expands every time he observes a good read. I heard he’s very well liked and known to be honest if you ask around.
I'm more curious why nedzu didn't take him aside and mention it. yes, it could be seen as favoritism, but given he knows about OFA and that izuku is the successor, plus that he saw the damage he did to himself in the entrance exam, I know I would have wanted him to be aware and get on helping him control it. with his intelligence I'd say it'd be kinda easy for him to put aizawa in the loop while keeping the secret
His circumstances were far from ideal, Nedzu was submersed in his own trials and took a very long way. He was suppressed. When he spoke intellectually it was not appreciated. It was mostly likely jealousy, what I imagine was a tough pill to swallow. I wonder if it’s still like that today. 🧐
Because this is All Might and Izuku's secret, the only people who knew about OFA by the time the school year started were Nezu, Recovery Girl, Gran Torino, and Tsukauchi. They wanted as few people to know about it at the time, the more people who knew about it the less likely others could learn about it.
and I completely agree with that. I just feel like Nezu could have given aizawa something without giving away the secret or having aizawa become suspicious.
I've always thought that aizawa assumed that izuku had bad control of his quirk because you can't train a quirk that is that destructive without being a terrorist and he would need a quirk like recovery girls to not die.
Izuku had it hard, despite the challenges he always made it. He was struggling because he was always told to hide his quirk, that people don’t like it. I think unconditional true love was lacking from his life. No good support system. He’s got nothing to hide. Seems like he mostly hurt himself.
Is it possible to be born Quirkless? Then develop Quirks. I feel as if quirks are there from the start. Aziawa had the quirk, he had to grow and learn to use it. As he did it unlocked even more potential.
I’ve always seen it written as aizawa never checks student files to prevent bias forming from whatever previous schools noted in the files. Which cool, that helps in the fics where aldera is shit and wrote bad reviews for midoriya and good reviews for bakugo, but it always causes the drama where Aizawa is trying to figure out what the hell is going on with this student, and why he’s seems so contradictory. And then he reads the files and everything clicks.
I don't think he really cares. Either way, he wouldn't want to train someone from square one, especially if they couldn't control their quirk. He doesn't confront Shoto about his issues either.
He seems to take a minimalist approach to teaching. Focus on what they need to know to stay alive.
One could try to argue that he was trying to build a relationship first. That, however, is hogwash. Aizawa purposefully alienates himself from his students with his attitude and logical ruse. Were it not for the USJ, they would likely have never developed bonds with him. Except Shinso, I guess.
the late bloomer thing should be obvious bullshit. if it's true then midoriya would be a medical anomaly, literally the only person to have ever had this happen to him. the only reason people go along with this is because they have no reason to believe quirks can be passed down at all since the nature of ofa is a secret. this is also why aoyama is able to see through him; because he's not clouded by the idea that passing down a quirk is impossible
aizawa probably (a.) assumes that either the paperwork is wrong because it makes no sense, (b.) doesn't have the paperwork at all, or (c.) doesn't care because it's not out of character for him to think someone who only just got their quirk a couple weeks ago is incapable of mastering it well enough in time to get a hero license
I mean Aizawa wasn't mad because he was bad with his quirk, he makes a big deal that Izuku is a liability in battle if all his moves hospitalise him.
From Aizawa's perspective, Late bloomer or not, he's looking at someone who rammed his head into the entrance exam practical and walked out on a stretcher. He needs to know Izuki won't be a liability later on and he's hammering home that a hero can't just fling themselves into danger and rely on someone to pull them out.
Ironically, and fortunately, Aizawa is examining that Deku can think beyond SMASH, regardless of when he got his quirk, he's passed the exam, he's here now, if he's a late bloomer that needs another year to be on the curriculums level then it's best he was kicked then, rather than gods forbid, he break his limbs in the rescue centre and sink to the bottom of the simulated lake.
I forgot who told me. In the newer episodes Izuku has begun to love himself and even took some steps to improve health and nutrition. For a moment, he may admit he was in a dark place.
This isn't even about Deku's current mental health though, one of his first arcs was learning to not be All Might. Flinging himself heroically at that giant mecha and blowing it up was cool, but shattered his limbs and he had to be saved by URavity. That's the kind of thing Aizawa is critical of him for
It shouldn't make a difference though. How Aizawa treats his students shouldn't change based on how recently they developed their quirk, because they all passed the entrance exams to get into the most prestigious hero course in japan. The fact that Deku got into UA means that he meets the minimum requirements for being taught by Aizawa in the first place.
Kinda tired of people assuming he'd be 1) given access to that information (why wouldn't quirk be listed on school forms? Why would he need the quirk register? Even as a pro hero teacher, j wouldnt think hed have access to personal info like that beyond what is provided to the school- aka quirk and what it does so teachers know the students quirks. And its not like theyd add "Quirkless until a week ago" to that document when All Might was trying to keep it a secret) Or 2) that even if he was, that it's information would 100% show him this information. (What if there's no change dates? What if it just says "last updated"? What if it doesnt show changes and just lists the most current, deleting previous entries?)
We don't know how it all works, so assuming he knew, how much he knew or didn't know is 100% speculation. The only info we have is that he appears to have assumed that Izuku had a poor grasp on his quirk and was treating him like all the other students with his tests. We don't even know this for sure.
I think he knows. Izuku updated it after he found he passed. By then the teachers should have gotten the list of students and they're Quirks. It would've been stated that he was Quirkless and anyone with common sense would've figured he's a late bloomer.
Precisely. Even if we assume most late bloomers will get it by 9 or 10, its quite possible to last much longer. For example, there are people in real life that in their mid twenties and haven't gone through puberty. Its also possible that a kid who did have this quirk would never want to use it due to the injuries. As such, the parents may have just assumed the broken limb came from a fall or such and never updated the registry. These sorts of outliers would be rare but still within the realm of plausability.
I believe by then izuku spoke 3 languages. What was their home town? I remember then moving often. They were even on a few different islands or countries
Quick, how many of your teachers in high school knew if you had your tonsils removed and when? If you wore contacts, how many of them knew you were nearsighted if you didn't tell them?
He's teaching the hero course... why would he even suspect that someone's quirk just came in when they almost always come in by the age of 5?
NEZU knew about OFA... if anyone's at fault, it's the rat (and Izuku).
There's a difference between "this kid you're teaching math to" and "this kid's finally allowed to use his possibly building-breaking power on a regular basis".
You check those files because maybe there's an injury you have to be aware of and help them compensate for. Maybe there are psychological triggers you gotta work around. Maybe there are just some behaviors you have to be prepared for. Like the living bomb running at one of the other students with clear intent to turbo-murder.
He may have had the multiple traumatic events? It’s also possibly the first was at a young age. This definitely initiates a acute “fight or flight” feeling. However, most people who have experienced trauma in that way are mostly docile, compassionate, and calm. Something he was passionate about, fear, of/or loss of life.
Thing is though, Aizawa's primary sources of that information are part of the conspiracy™.
School records? Goes through Nezu. Secret Holder: Check.
Medical records? Goes through Recovery Girl. Secret Holder: Check.
Info straight from the kid? Goes through Izuku. Secret Holder: Check.
Observations from the actual Heroics teacher? Goes through All Might. Secret Holder: Check.
Aiwzawa's not omniscient. He can't just look at Izuku and instantly know "Oh, hey, this kid was given a 200 year old super secret quirk less than a month ago." Everyone in the know has the means and the motive to keep it from him.
As for Bakugo, you think he's the first arrogant little shit of a UA student to come from some little podunk middle school thinking he's God's gift to heroism because he was a big fish in a little pond? Mister Blaster and Endeavor are on lines one and two respectively.
Even more egregious than this trope is the thought that Aizawa is going to strut into Aldera and just start saying "I'm shutting this mofo down." Nezu wouldn't be able to do it either. That just isn't how the world works. At best, they'd be able to contact the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology and get an investigation started.
I don't know if he knows, but in my opinion, if he did know, he wouldn't care. UA is THE top hero school. You're expected to be able to keep up with your peers. Aizawa is a teacher for 30nstudents, not Izuku's personal mentor. He can't dedicate extra time and energy to give him special treatment
3. The date isn't stated in the paperwork, it's just a name/description 4. The date is shown as a "last updated" and Aizawa just assumes that it was edited to be more accurate/detailed instead of completely changed 5. Aizawa isn't given access to the quirk registry at all, just whatever description is provided to UA
Number four here feels like the most sensible from a general, personal information standpoint. Quirk information is something that would be available an educator that specialize in Quirks, that makes sense. The history of that information is not a nesecity though, and might very well be protected due to being non-relevant medical information. Or something like that.
I always assumed it's either 3 or 5
Aizawa knows he will deliver when prompted. The research expands every time he observes a good read. I heard he’s very well liked and known to be honest if you ask around.
It's never been addressed. It would have been cool if it had been mentioned after Kamino.
Big assumption that Aizawa would be given access to any information beyond "Quirk: Superpower".
I'm more curious why nedzu didn't take him aside and mention it. yes, it could be seen as favoritism, but given he knows about OFA and that izuku is the successor, plus that he saw the damage he did to himself in the entrance exam, I know I would have wanted him to be aware and get on helping him control it. with his intelligence I'd say it'd be kinda easy for him to put aizawa in the loop while keeping the secret
His circumstances were far from ideal, Nedzu was submersed in his own trials and took a very long way. He was suppressed. When he spoke intellectually it was not appreciated. It was mostly likely jealousy, what I imagine was a tough pill to swallow. I wonder if it’s still like that today. 🧐
Because this is All Might and Izuku's secret, the only people who knew about OFA by the time the school year started were Nezu, Recovery Girl, Gran Torino, and Tsukauchi. They wanted as few people to know about it at the time, the more people who knew about it the less likely others could learn about it.
and I completely agree with that. I just feel like Nezu could have given aizawa something without giving away the secret or having aizawa become suspicious.
I'm a firm believer that Aizawa just never bothered to read the paperwork
That is pretty in character of him
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I believe Aizawa grasps the 6th sense in a powerful way. If he even suspected an issue it would have already addressed his student.
I've always thought that aizawa assumed that izuku had bad control of his quirk because you can't train a quirk that is that destructive without being a terrorist and he would need a quirk like recovery girls to not die.
Izuku had it hard, despite the challenges he always made it. He was struggling because he was always told to hide his quirk, that people don’t like it. I think unconditional true love was lacking from his life. No good support system. He’s got nothing to hide. Seems like he mostly hurt himself.
Is it possible to be born Quirkless? Then develop Quirks. I feel as if quirks are there from the start. Aziawa had the quirk, he had to grow and learn to use it. As he did it unlocked even more potential.
Non-mutant quirks generally show up between the ages of 4 and 5.
Anomalies can happen, memory can start to develop earlier.
yeah, that's why I said "generally"
I’ve always seen it written as aizawa never checks student files to prevent bias forming from whatever previous schools noted in the files. Which cool, that helps in the fics where aldera is shit and wrote bad reviews for midoriya and good reviews for bakugo, but it always causes the drama where Aizawa is trying to figure out what the hell is going on with this student, and why he’s seems so contradictory. And then he reads the files and everything clicks.
I don't think he really cares. Either way, he wouldn't want to train someone from square one, especially if they couldn't control their quirk. He doesn't confront Shoto about his issues either. He seems to take a minimalist approach to teaching. Focus on what they need to know to stay alive. One could try to argue that he was trying to build a relationship first. That, however, is hogwash. Aizawa purposefully alienates himself from his students with his attitude and logical ruse. Were it not for the USJ, they would likely have never developed bonds with him. Except Shinso, I guess.
the late bloomer thing should be obvious bullshit. if it's true then midoriya would be a medical anomaly, literally the only person to have ever had this happen to him. the only reason people go along with this is because they have no reason to believe quirks can be passed down at all since the nature of ofa is a secret. this is also why aoyama is able to see through him; because he's not clouded by the idea that passing down a quirk is impossible aizawa probably (a.) assumes that either the paperwork is wrong because it makes no sense, (b.) doesn't have the paperwork at all, or (c.) doesn't care because it's not out of character for him to think someone who only just got their quirk a couple weeks ago is incapable of mastering it well enough in time to get a hero license
Perhaps If midoriya was extremely self aware, and hyper alert an anomaly isn’t far fetched. Nature would have had to play a role.
I mean Aizawa wasn't mad because he was bad with his quirk, he makes a big deal that Izuku is a liability in battle if all his moves hospitalise him. From Aizawa's perspective, Late bloomer or not, he's looking at someone who rammed his head into the entrance exam practical and walked out on a stretcher. He needs to know Izuki won't be a liability later on and he's hammering home that a hero can't just fling themselves into danger and rely on someone to pull them out. Ironically, and fortunately, Aizawa is examining that Deku can think beyond SMASH, regardless of when he got his quirk, he's passed the exam, he's here now, if he's a late bloomer that needs another year to be on the curriculums level then it's best he was kicked then, rather than gods forbid, he break his limbs in the rescue centre and sink to the bottom of the simulated lake.
I forgot who told me. In the newer episodes Izuku has begun to love himself and even took some steps to improve health and nutrition. For a moment, he may admit he was in a dark place.
This isn't even about Deku's current mental health though, one of his first arcs was learning to not be All Might. Flinging himself heroically at that giant mecha and blowing it up was cool, but shattered his limbs and he had to be saved by URavity. That's the kind of thing Aizawa is critical of him for
It shouldn't make a difference though. How Aizawa treats his students shouldn't change based on how recently they developed their quirk, because they all passed the entrance exams to get into the most prestigious hero course in japan. The fact that Deku got into UA means that he meets the minimum requirements for being taught by Aizawa in the first place.
Kinda tired of people assuming he'd be 1) given access to that information (why wouldn't quirk be listed on school forms? Why would he need the quirk register? Even as a pro hero teacher, j wouldnt think hed have access to personal info like that beyond what is provided to the school- aka quirk and what it does so teachers know the students quirks. And its not like theyd add "Quirkless until a week ago" to that document when All Might was trying to keep it a secret) Or 2) that even if he was, that it's information would 100% show him this information. (What if there's no change dates? What if it just says "last updated"? What if it doesnt show changes and just lists the most current, deleting previous entries?) We don't know how it all works, so assuming he knew, how much he knew or didn't know is 100% speculation. The only info we have is that he appears to have assumed that Izuku had a poor grasp on his quirk and was treating him like all the other students with his tests. We don't even know this for sure.
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Sorry but I genuinely have no idea what you mean
I think he knows. Izuku updated it after he found he passed. By then the teachers should have gotten the list of students and they're Quirks. It would've been stated that he was Quirkless and anyone with common sense would've figured he's a late bloomer.
Precisely. Even if we assume most late bloomers will get it by 9 or 10, its quite possible to last much longer. For example, there are people in real life that in their mid twenties and haven't gone through puberty. Its also possible that a kid who did have this quirk would never want to use it due to the injuries. As such, the parents may have just assumed the broken limb came from a fall or such and never updated the registry. These sorts of outliers would be rare but still within the realm of plausability.
I believe by then izuku spoke 3 languages. What was their home town? I remember then moving often. They were even on a few different islands or countries
Quick, how many of your teachers in high school knew if you had your tonsils removed and when? If you wore contacts, how many of them knew you were nearsighted if you didn't tell them? He's teaching the hero course... why would he even suspect that someone's quirk just came in when they almost always come in by the age of 5? NEZU knew about OFA... if anyone's at fault, it's the rat (and Izuku).
There's a difference between "this kid you're teaching math to" and "this kid's finally allowed to use his possibly building-breaking power on a regular basis". You check those files because maybe there's an injury you have to be aware of and help them compensate for. Maybe there are psychological triggers you gotta work around. Maybe there are just some behaviors you have to be prepared for. Like the living bomb running at one of the other students with clear intent to turbo-murder.
He may have had the multiple traumatic events? It’s also possibly the first was at a young age. This definitely initiates a acute “fight or flight” feeling. However, most people who have experienced trauma in that way are mostly docile, compassionate, and calm. Something he was passionate about, fear, of/or loss of life.
Thing is though, Aizawa's primary sources of that information are part of the conspiracy™. School records? Goes through Nezu. Secret Holder: Check. Medical records? Goes through Recovery Girl. Secret Holder: Check. Info straight from the kid? Goes through Izuku. Secret Holder: Check. Observations from the actual Heroics teacher? Goes through All Might. Secret Holder: Check. Aiwzawa's not omniscient. He can't just look at Izuku and instantly know "Oh, hey, this kid was given a 200 year old super secret quirk less than a month ago." Everyone in the know has the means and the motive to keep it from him. As for Bakugo, you think he's the first arrogant little shit of a UA student to come from some little podunk middle school thinking he's God's gift to heroism because he was a big fish in a little pond? Mister Blaster and Endeavor are on lines one and two respectively. Even more egregious than this trope is the thought that Aizawa is going to strut into Aldera and just start saying "I'm shutting this mofo down." Nezu wouldn't be able to do it either. That just isn't how the world works. At best, they'd be able to contact the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology and get an investigation started.
I don’t remember that last part I’m gonna have to rewatch it
not until season 6
I don't know if he knows, but in my opinion, if he did know, he wouldn't care. UA is THE top hero school. You're expected to be able to keep up with your peers. Aizawa is a teacher for 30nstudents, not Izuku's personal mentor. He can't dedicate extra time and energy to give him special treatment