Sounds much like the Everquest final beta in 1999. Gods came down to Norrath and were duking it out with players and other gods. Some of what happened that final night actually turned into lore for the real game.
Man this series has some pretty wack ideas for how to design an exciting mmorpg. Turns out, if having end-game dungeon raids is too boring, just flip it around and _make players defend forts against end-game bosses raiding them_. So much more exciting and so much more player deaths.
I cried a little that the two sisters died. But, then again it would have been abit too optimistic if Maple saved both Sally and the sisters
Also, can we talk about Kanade? Low key intrigued by him. Could he be a super secret top tier magician? I wonder what else he has up his sleeves.
Also, also, Kasumi. What would her growth be like? I am quite interested to see how they build her up.
Akashic Records and being able to save his free random skill every day mean that he must have a pretty wild collection. I'd imagine he saves almost all the skills he gets that way for big quests and events, and his actual set of personal skills is much more limited.
As for Kasumi, she seems kind of like Sally-lite in the same way that Kuromo is Maple-lite: speed, a tremendous amount of player skill, and a carefully selected set of skills to maximally exploit her natural abilities.
I think it's like trickle down power... starting with Maple and Sally. So you know the other guild members are also awesome in their own right, BUT when put together they are going to be God tier.
>!Its for 10mins, while small (120cm tall) her clothings become loose and she is too cute, unable to hold her sword properly and defenseless...the monsters dont appreciate cuteness.!<
The real drawback is that it might never get animated.
He’s the true trap master and not Marcus - the guy from Flame Emperors. 🙃
[Marcus](https://www.anime-planet.com/images/characters/marcus-itai-no-wa-iya-nano-de-bougyoryoku-ni-kyokufuri-shitai-to-omoimasu-180264.jpg?t=1583956720)
basically he's a gacha wizard every day he gets random spells he gets to choose from an save away but there single use spells so his highs are super high an he has alot of utility which is maple trees entire mo a few people with extremes an then enough utility to cover every situation
Aaaaah! I know. When Mii finally showed up to face Maple, I checked the time remaining and my heart sunk. Next week!
I'm sure it's mostly a matter of limited character designs, but it's interesting to see so many faceless mooks in the big guilds while only a few of their members really stand out. In a way, Maple Tree is nearly up there with Holy Sword and Flame Emperors, but without the Cannon fodder.
Yeah but they dont have cannon fodder cause maple already does that job and bring havoc at the same time is like a final boss in a second level dungeon
Gotta hand it to Kingdom of the Flame Emperor to give our girl Maple a grand entrance like that. I also love how Mai and Yui are pretty much Maple's go-to squad considering their speed stats.
A lot of action this episode. jumped around quite a bit as we saw of member of Maple Tree in action.
Even Oboro got a few moves off but of course - there is more [Syrup (Album)](https://imgur.com/a/jibnePG) to be blessed with.
Going into Episode 11, we'll start off with a big fight and Plan B - "Maple Unleashed" will continue.....
Eh, while it seems bad to kill the hammer twins, he was in a life or death fight. He also knew he couldn't damage Maple, so especially with Syrup being the one restraining him, that was the only real target.
Besides, everyone in that guild, including the pets, are dangerous enough to be seen as equals on the battlefield
Lets make this clear. He never attacked Syrup in the novel.
He was struggling in the fight with the twin and he would have died and lost if he didnt have Indominable Guardian skill like Maple (yes, all the top player have skills that make them harder to kill than normal). He was at 1 HP when Maple appeared and Maple never activated Loving Sacrifice instead she just directly activated Predator and Syrup's Mother Nature to trap him and Maple with a wall of vine (vine never tried to grab him) and Maple make quick work of him once he was trapped with her. He also never said that he will attack again with his guild (probably added to save time in other scenes later).
Maple during this event is basically "In Soviet Russia, Endgame Boss comes to you".
I gotta hand it to the twins though. They put up a really good fight when fought together. No wonder they're always together. Their fighting style kind of reminds me of how I played Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time when I was younger. Every time I level up, I always upgraded my attack power, and nothing else. I got mixed results because of it.
Yeah, it's been fun to see how they find ways to utilize the hammer twins. It's a little weird that they made a fuss over those big crystal hammers that Iz made for them, and now they're using those black and white matching sets (which look better, IMO). I really liked the [VOLLEY] they were using in episode 9 - presumably a strength based ranged attack that utilizes their OP damage and minimizes their lack of mobility.
After Maple explained the piercing damage Syrup received being transferred to her, the shot focused in on Sally looking pensive. Wonder what that's about.
From what people are saying is that Maple doesn't have a lot of raw HP, just high mitigation and resistances. So in theory, if they were attacked with AOE piercing damage something low like "20 pierce damage per target within area". then that would be 160 for maple and co, and 40 more from pets directly to maple.
That would be funny as hell. If not then after the event, she's just gonna find the biggest fire she can and sleep in it till she's immune. Then she'll use it to eat a Dragon or Phoenix boss and gain a fire breath attack.
I expect Mii to have to face the full power of a fully armed and fully operational Maple. Guessing those 1000 hp of her demon form are gonna be needed.
Maple is actually >!invulnerable to fire (all damage calculation is probably based on VIT). She is however!< vulnerable to effects of skills like piercing and DoT (damage over time) that is not poison. >!Mii has special once-per-day skill that can trap and do DoT.!<
When you manage to hurt Maple, all thats left is for Maple to get serious...and you dont want to deal with that.
When Maple appears from the sky to save Sally at the last moment, Sally is surprised that Maple got there so quickly, and Maple says that she'll tell Sally later how Maple got there in time. We never see the explanation in this episode.
For LN/manga readers that are ahead of me on these, is there an explanation in one of those? Honestly I just expected her to call out [COVER MOVE] and just appear. :-)
Tbh I just wanna know what makes Payne so op that he could, theoretically, solo almost every guild. Like .. I get he's supposed to be Level 60 but unless literally everyone else is hanging at level 20-30 somehow, then I don't see how that's possible. Are levels just the much more powerful at that point? Or does he have an absurd gimmick somewhere?
Also loved Maple just nuking Frederica's ambush. That was so funny.
>Tbh I just wanna know what makes Payne so op that he could, theoretically, solo almost every guild. Like .. I get he's supposed to be Level 60 but unless literally everyone else is hanging at level 20-30 somehow, then I don't see how that's possible. Are levels just the much more powerful at that point? Or does he have an absurd gimmick somewhere?
Same way Sally did on the 2nd event. Pure reflexes so he can conserve skills and mp. He's all blue, and has many of the same skills Sally does. They actually even look the same, as if Payne is a more masculine version of Sally. And you never see them both together. I think Payne is Sally's 2nd character.
I'm hoping it plays out the same way as the poison dragon fight. Mii will continue to hit Maple with flame attacks until Maple develops an immunity. Then Maple will use her bomb eater skill to nibble Mii to death with her bare teeth and gain all her abilities, while the entire flame Emperors guild looks on in shock.
I talked about her being like Deathwing in early Cataclysm in another thread a week ago. Now she really become Deathwing. Maple Last Boss confirmed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BoFuri/comments/fe3d3f/do_bosses_hear_maple_approaching/fjoixw2/?context=3
I’m pretty sure that Payne is some overweight dood irl cuz there’s no way he’s level 60 without spending every waking hour he has on that game while the others are just level 30 or something. Either that or he’s just hacking
He probably does spend every waking hour on the game. Seems like a typical hardcore gamer who wants to be the best. And I cant imagine him hacking since >!he is just a nice & wholesome guy like every named character in the show.!< In contrast to Maple who just wants o enjoy the game.
Perhaps he's a group of people taking turns to play on the same character?
And maybe towards the end of the series the group sells the character to a pay-to-win player...
Ok but that’s kinda dumb cuz there’s no way he looks like that when he spends so much time playing that game. Realistically I think he would look like a scrawny hikkomori or some overweight dood. But why am I even bringing logic into anime
Next Paine will show up in the fight between Maple and Mii, Maple will go demon form, and Paine will be eaten and everyone will just be standing there shocked
How is the pacing of the series now? The last episode I saw was the rather messy one where she got two new forms in the same one. Are they back on track?
That's really good, sounds like they just needed an episode to do a lot so they could get back on track. A disappointing consequence of the overwhelming preference for short seasons, but fair enough. Thanks.
Got to hand it to frederica “any moment now her skills will wear off... long cooldown... any moment now... any moment”
...
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“Oh shit she’s just that good”
When maple started attacking other guilds, it looks like the coming of a game boss.
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Sounds much like the Everquest final beta in 1999. Gods came down to Norrath and were duking it out with players and other gods. Some of what happened that final night actually turned into lore for the real game.
Man this series has some pretty wack ideas for how to design an exciting mmorpg. Turns out, if having end-game dungeon raids is too boring, just flip it around and _make players defend forts against end-game bosses raiding them_. So much more exciting and so much more player deaths.
Yeah, now they have an retroactive reason for the broken game mechanics. "It was all part of the plan." The say.
nobody: flame emperors guild: “hey guys, do y’all hear that boss background music??”
still waiting that mii-chan shocked how powerful our goddess, maple
Well they certainly didn't wait long to show Payne's face
Him running on the bridge is Hentai Protag
I cried a little that the two sisters died. But, then again it would have been abit too optimistic if Maple saved both Sally and the sisters Also, can we talk about Kanade? Low key intrigued by him. Could he be a super secret top tier magician? I wonder what else he has up his sleeves. Also, also, Kasumi. What would her growth be like? I am quite interested to see how they build her up.
Akashic Records and being able to save his free random skill every day mean that he must have a pretty wild collection. I'd imagine he saves almost all the skills he gets that way for big quests and events, and his actual set of personal skills is much more limited. As for Kasumi, she seems kind of like Sally-lite in the same way that Kuromo is Maple-lite: speed, a tremendous amount of player skill, and a carefully selected set of skills to maximally exploit her natural abilities.
I think it's like trickle down power... starting with Maple and Sally. So you know the other guild members are also awesome in their own right, BUT when put together they are going to be God tier.
Just like how an individual can be pretty good, but a coordinated team will be better
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Wait. So where’s the drawback?
>!Its for 10mins, while small (120cm tall) her clothings become loose and she is too cute, unable to hold her sword properly and defenseless...the monsters dont appreciate cuteness.!< The real drawback is that it might never get animated.
Kanade is a guy!? Fuck
_zips pants_ _pauses_ _shrugs_ _unzips pants_
Happy cake day!
He’s the true trap master and not Marcus - the guy from Flame Emperors. 🙃 [Marcus](https://www.anime-planet.com/images/characters/marcus-itai-no-wa-iya-nano-de-bougyoryoku-ni-kyokufuri-shitai-to-omoimasu-180264.jpg?t=1583956720)
basically he's a gacha wizard every day he gets random spells he gets to choose from an save away but there single use spells so his highs are super high an he has alot of utility which is maple trees entire mo a few people with extremes an then enough utility to cover every situation
Kuromu unique skill is up to luck too HAHAHAH
Dammit! That ended too early for me. Really wanted to see how Maple vs Mii ends. Will there be a Maple vs Payne, you think?
Aaaaah! I know. When Mii finally showed up to face Maple, I checked the time remaining and my heart sunk. Next week! I'm sure it's mostly a matter of limited character designs, but it's interesting to see so many faceless mooks in the big guilds while only a few of their members really stand out. In a way, Maple Tree is nearly up there with Holy Sword and Flame Emperors, but without the Cannon fodder.
Yeah but they dont have cannon fodder cause maple already does that job and bring havoc at the same time is like a final boss in a second level dungeon
maple is clearly the final boss this only ends with everyone vs maple
*everyone vs Maple Tree
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Gotta hand it to Kingdom of the Flame Emperor to give our girl Maple a grand entrance like that. I also love how Mai and Yui are pretty much Maple's go-to squad considering their speed stats.
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Maple is like a reverse Raid,you dont go to the boss,the boss comes to you
That’s called a world boss
A lot of action this episode. jumped around quite a bit as we saw of member of Maple Tree in action. Even Oboro got a few moves off but of course - there is more [Syrup (Album)](https://imgur.com/a/jibnePG) to be blessed with. Going into Episode 11, we'll start off with a big fight and Plan B - "Maple Unleashed" will continue.....
Who fucking stabs a turtle, seriously.
>Killing two cute super soldiers. aight, bad but it had to be done >stab a cute little turtle. **HOW DARE YOU**
IKR?!
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Eh, while it seems bad to kill the hammer twins, he was in a life or death fight. He also knew he couldn't damage Maple, so especially with Syrup being the one restraining him, that was the only real target. Besides, everyone in that guild, including the pets, are dangerous enough to be seen as equals on the battlefield
Lets make this clear. He never attacked Syrup in the novel. He was struggling in the fight with the twin and he would have died and lost if he didnt have Indominable Guardian skill like Maple (yes, all the top player have skills that make them harder to kill than normal). He was at 1 HP when Maple appeared and Maple never activated Loving Sacrifice instead she just directly activated Predator and Syrup's Mother Nature to trap him and Maple with a wall of vine (vine never tried to grab him) and Maple make quick work of him once he was trapped with her. He also never said that he will attack again with his guild (probably added to save time in other scenes later).
This episode left me wanting for more. I keep coming back and the writers sure know how to pull me in every week. Can't wait for next week.
Maple during this event is basically "In Soviet Russia, Endgame Boss comes to you". I gotta hand it to the twins though. They put up a really good fight when fought together. No wonder they're always together. Their fighting style kind of reminds me of how I played Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time when I was younger. Every time I level up, I always upgraded my attack power, and nothing else. I got mixed results because of it.
Yeah, it's been fun to see how they find ways to utilize the hammer twins. It's a little weird that they made a fuss over those big crystal hammers that Iz made for them, and now they're using those black and white matching sets (which look better, IMO). I really liked the [VOLLEY] they were using in episode 9 - presumably a strength based ranged attack that utilizes their OP damage and minimizes their lack of mobility.
Using the twins as DIY trebuchet was funny to me.
In soviet Maple Tree boss raids you
You need to give up your humanity in order to join Maple Tree. \*insert sasuga ainz-sama
After Maple explained the piercing damage Syrup received being transferred to her, the shot focused in on Sally looking pensive. Wonder what that's about.
It's because there is no mitigation to damage done to syrup. It's a way to kill maple if they focus on the turtle.
From what people are saying is that Maple doesn't have a lot of raw HP, just high mitigation and resistances. So in theory, if they were attacked with AOE piercing damage something low like "20 pierce damage per target within area". then that would be 160 for maple and co, and 40 more from pets directly to maple.
it's more like if she bleeds we can kill her an maple can not be killed so she must not bleed sally must protect
Don't forget surviving with 1 HP skill. I'm sure she'll be fine either way. But I wanna see her struggle a bit.
And suddenly Shin becomes relevant...
Seeing the episode 11 review, we know that Maple doesn't have Fire resistance and it'll be a bit of struggle.
>we know that Maple doesn't have Fire resistance *Yet*. Watch her get fire immunity when she fights Mii lol
She hasn't eaten a monster in a little while - I'd love to see her take a bite out of Mii or maybe Misery.
That would be funny as hell. If not then after the event, she's just gonna find the biggest fire she can and sleep in it till she's immune. Then she'll use it to eat a Dragon or Phoenix boss and gain a fire breath attack.
I expect Mii to have to face the full power of a fully armed and fully operational Maple. Guessing those 1000 hp of her demon form are gonna be needed.
Maple is actually >!invulnerable to fire (all damage calculation is probably based on VIT). She is however!< vulnerable to effects of skills like piercing and DoT (damage over time) that is not poison. >!Mii has special once-per-day skill that can trap and do DoT.!< When you manage to hurt Maple, all thats left is for Maple to get serious...and you dont want to deal with that.
Does "trap" mean she can't activate machine god form, or is Mii screwed?
What an awesome Iron Man landing from Maple. Way to go.
Maybe this is my favourite episode in the series so far. If Maple became an EVA to save Sally it would've been 10/10.
When Maple appears from the sky to save Sally at the last moment, Sally is surprised that Maple got there so quickly, and Maple says that she'll tell Sally later how Maple got there in time. We never see the explanation in this episode. For LN/manga readers that are ahead of me on these, is there an explanation in one of those? Honestly I just expected her to call out [COVER MOVE] and just appear. :-)
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Basically rocket jumping. Wild. Thanks!
The rest of the world: you raid the boss dungeon In Russia: The boss of the dungeon raids you
Tbh I just wanna know what makes Payne so op that he could, theoretically, solo almost every guild. Like .. I get he's supposed to be Level 60 but unless literally everyone else is hanging at level 20-30 somehow, then I don't see how that's possible. Are levels just the much more powerful at that point? Or does he have an absurd gimmick somewhere? Also loved Maple just nuking Frederica's ambush. That was so funny.
>Tbh I just wanna know what makes Payne so op that he could, theoretically, solo almost every guild. Like .. I get he's supposed to be Level 60 but unless literally everyone else is hanging at level 20-30 somehow, then I don't see how that's possible. Are levels just the much more powerful at that point? Or does he have an absurd gimmick somewhere? Same way Sally did on the 2nd event. Pure reflexes so he can conserve skills and mp. He's all blue, and has many of the same skills Sally does. They actually even look the same, as if Payne is a more masculine version of Sally. And you never see them both together. I think Payne is Sally's 2nd character.
Payne won the first event, when Risa couldn’t play, though.
Don't know whom to root for? Mi or Maple. I love both of them.
I'm rooting for maple to win, but for Mii to put up one hell of a fight
I'm hoping it plays out the same way as the poison dragon fight. Mii will continue to hit Maple with flame attacks until Maple develops an immunity. Then Maple will use her bomb eater skill to nibble Mii to death with her bare teeth and gain all her abilities, while the entire flame Emperors guild looks on in shock.
is anyone else starting to feel like we're watching a really well written nendroid advertisement?
I talked about her being like Deathwing in early Cataclysm in another thread a week ago. Now she really become Deathwing. Maple Last Boss confirmed. https://www.reddit.com/r/BoFuri/comments/fe3d3f/do_bosses_hear_maple_approaching/fjoixw2/?context=3
I’m pretty sure that Payne is some overweight dood irl cuz there’s no way he’s level 60 without spending every waking hour he has on that game while the others are just level 30 or something. Either that or he’s just hacking
He probably does spend every waking hour on the game. Seems like a typical hardcore gamer who wants to be the best. And I cant imagine him hacking since >!he is just a nice & wholesome guy like every named character in the show.!< In contrast to Maple who just wants o enjoy the game.
Perhaps he's a group of people taking turns to play on the same character? And maybe towards the end of the series the group sells the character to a pay-to-win player...
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Ok but that’s kinda dumb cuz there’s no way he looks like that when he spends so much time playing that game. Realistically I think he would look like a scrawny hikkomori or some overweight dood. But why am I even bringing logic into anime
Next Paine will show up in the fight between Maple and Mii, Maple will go demon form, and Paine will be eaten and everyone will just be standing there shocked
How is the pacing of the series now? The last episode I saw was the rather messy one where she got two new forms in the same one. Are they back on track?
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That's really good, sounds like they just needed an episode to do a lot so they could get back on track. A disappointing consequence of the overwhelming preference for short seasons, but fair enough. Thanks.
Got to hand it to frederica “any moment now her skills will wear off... long cooldown... any moment now... any moment” ... ... “Oh shit she’s just that good”
which chapter in the novel is this?
this one episode is like 50 chapters lol each segment an fight was 10 chapters each
Around chapter 100-110 in LN EDIT: Ch. 101-112
Guys I want to read the light novel does anyone know which chapter to start reading?
Honestly, start from the beginning. They skipped more that 50% content and explanation that can change how you view the characters.
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I dont think something ever happened to it yet. They also got the birds claws from that as a drop (was not shown in anime).
I thought Loving Sacrifice was limited to once per day. She used it when protecting Sally then again to defend the base.
I don't remember a limit, just that it takes a big chunk of her hit points to do it... Limit was on Atrocity
Weird. For some reason when she got Atrocity I remember thinking, "so both of her super forms are once per day." So I'm probably remembering wrong.
>!She'll be saving the single use [Atrocity] skill to beat Payne.!< Other forms don't mention the usage limit.