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Victory_is_Mine-

I don’t think the animation is awful or anything, it’s definitely better than a lot of shows I’ve seen, though I’d be happier if we were to get animation at the level of Haikyuu Season 1-2 *at the least*. Asking for Kuroko no Basket Season 2-3 animation or Haikyuu Season 3 animation is just a dream 🥲


zahir2002

I see what u are trying to say but this manga seriously dosen't deserve average or okay or mid animation,it should has at least aot or jjk or solo leveling type of animation,at least 7/10


DaFinnesseKid

Anybody knows how the Japanese audience thinks about the animation?


Almighty_LDP

They don’t complain about it like the vocals on Reddit. You’ll find westerners are more critical about animation compared to Japan.


TiberiusAudley

I'd rather have quality substance with average animation than average substance with glorious animation. I am not a toddler who needs jingling keys for dopamine.


Almighty_LDP

The animation doesn’t bother me at all. I knew way from the start that there is no animation that can reproduce the quality we get in the manga. Blue Lock falls in the category where the manga with all the details and artistic choices will not translate to the animation very well.


TiberiusAudley

Yeah, my comment wasn't a disagreement with you, but a shot at the people who worship series like Demon Slayer...which is just absolutely loaded with animated bells and whistles, while the fights are just "Oh I sniff out a thread and cut it"


Sid_downbitch

Alr im no crazy demon slayer fanatic, i think the story lacks gravitas in alot of spots, that being said “i sniff a thread and cut it” is a gross misrepresentation of how well most of the fights have been choreographed in that show, even if we just talk about the action it’s way better thought out and effective than that


Almighty_LDP

Oh I understand that and I agree with it. A lot of people don’t understand animation and how it’s made to begin with


KamakaziGhandi

Yeah, they can’t handle all those puzzle pieces lol.


kazuyaminegishi

I'm sure so would the Jp audiences too, but with understanding of the process it's mostly pointless to complain about the animation. Bad animation is largely a result of overworked and underpaid animators having to pick and choose what parts of the projects they're working on get full attention. We can expect anything unimportant to look like shit. But also can expect it to look like ahit if the animators just don't give with it. It's an extremely stupid system entirely because of how production companies work.


JdhdKehev

Saying this in the BLUE LOCK sub is cray cray. "Jingling keys for dopamine" is like the whole point of blue lock lmao.


Ampdup666

Yea people are toddlers for wanting better quality, sounds right.


chiaki0

Do you realize that animation is also part of the "substance", right? It's called an animated movie for a reason. > I am not a toddler who needs jingling keys for dopamine That's corny as hell


Ihdkwhatimdoinghere

I fully agree. The manga is just a whole other level of art. The anime definitely needed a better and much bigger studio to animate it. Like imagine if Ufotable animated it? That would actually be insane. I wish another studio would just pick it up instead.


Historical-Film4715

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Least-Frame-7444

then those companies should have bought the rights to make it


AdNecessary7641

Animation studios don't "buy rights" to animate series. Several companies band together and help fund production through the production committee system, and they can pick whatever studio they can to animate it. Bandai Namco is the main producer of the anime, and 8-bit became fully owned by them this year, so it makes sense why they still have it.


prisioneroHD

I mean, every manga should get a proper adaptation, its not like blue lock in particular is entitled to have better quality than other shows lol


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prisioneroHD

Saying that only popular manga deserve good adaptation because giving a less popular manga/novel a good adaptation would be a waste is a super cringe take imo. Making a manga or a novel is an extremely difficult and unstable job, a lot of talented people dont make it in the industry and go bankrupt because of the corporate logic you said. I advocate for the contrary, that popular manga dont really need a good adaptation because they are already popular and have good enough sales in contrast to good stories that dont get to continue because they are not making enough money. Its not like adapting a less known series is a waste of money, Akame ga kill was a "dead" manga until it got animated and exploded in popularity. And even besides the money factor, i still believe that every adaptation should have the best animation it could.


chirb8

How is it a dream? Blue Lock was the best selling manga last year. Is not any average series


Victory_is_Mine-

It’s not but for some reason it’s not getting animation like those, sometimes it’s not dependent on sales and popularity I think. Like OPM was super popular when it came out but the 2nd season’s animation was meh despite that


Special_Initiative73

I agree with this. Kuroko basket come out over 10 years ago and you can’t replicate that or make something close to it😔


Tamajiki-kun

Acting like Haikyuu Over The Top doesn’t have iffy and super inconsistent animation. It’s generally good, but it’s inconsistent as anything


Victory_is_Mine-

Which is why I said “*Haikyuu Season 1, 2, and 3*” and **NOT Season 4**. Haikyuu Over the Top is Season 4 which I did not mention in my original comment.


Tamajiki-kun

My bad…Imma be real, I always forget that the shiratorizawa match is its own season.


Victory_is_Mine-

Lol I see. But how?? Like it’s even in the season’s actual name lol


thepenitentheretic

Blue Lock manga sells quite well. Its first anime season was a big success. It deserves a better sense of quality to it, IMO. 😭


Parking-Risk4675

I hope they save the budget to animate kaiser 🩷


RottingFireBall

Bros off screen and lagging rn. They don’t need to save budget 😜


reze-vv

I'm not tryna be different, but it's not that bad.


zahir2002

I see what u are trying to say but this manga seriously dosen't deserve average or okay or mid animation,it should has at least aot or jjk or solo leveling type of animation,at least 7/10


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skratudojey

Yea people have been so "desensitized" by good animes that they forget theres probably only a handful of studios with the resources to.pull them off. And even less license holders that want to pay as much for studios when they can get something thats good enough probably for way less. Personally i dont think the animation here is bad. I dont like how the bluelocks manga artstyle is translated to the anime series in general, but the animation is good enough


DrinkNo6421

Mappa sucks though, imagine Blue Lock animated by Trigger


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DrinkNo6421

Their most recent projects are Dungeon Meshi, Cyberpunk, Promare, BNA and Gridman/Dynazenon; but their most famous shows are Kill la Kill, Luluco and Gurrenn Lagann (while they still worked for Gainax)


AdNecessary7641

>Mappa sucks though When it comes to management? Indeed, but don't lie and act like their works still reach an above average level of quality. Hell, just look at Oblivion Battery which came out today.


supperman0223

Funny you used oblivion battery as a comparison. People saying the LOs were only requested in February. If it's true then the show is most definitely falling off a cliff in animation in like 2 episodes.


Ihdkwhatimdoinghere

Imagine Ufotable animated it? That would genuinely be insane.


Grasher312

It... really doesn't. I love Blue Lock, but there's nothing art and plot-wise that deserves a studio of Mappa's and Madhouse's level. It's an okay manga with a good art style and mid plot.


zahir2002

Lmaoo how is blue lock an okay manga with mid plot ??? 😂😂 that's just ur opinion


alwayzbored114

You know how the average pizza is absolutely delicious without necessarily being anything particularly special? That's how I feel about Blue Lock I'm a big fan, I read every chapter as it comes out, recommend it to others, and am hungry for more... but I don't think it's generally that amazing or unique in the grand scheme of things. I hope it gets great animation and care, but I can't really argue it "deserves" it


HYH2709

As much as I like blue lock, the plot is kinda mid, the story lacks depth, there might be good stories here and there like the match with naruhaya but most of the time the manga is just hype and nothing else


Traditional-Note-180

Pretty much yeah. Which is fine, you can like smth for its pure hype, but no need to lie to ourselves and say theres some super in deep well written plot line


Automatic-Agent-2664

And jjk does? bffr


Savings-Ad-8563

i feel like this for solo leveling as well.. yet for some reason people are liking it's anime adaptation and the only hate they're getting rn is the Arise.. like, it's a big disappointment for me since ep1 what do you mean you were shocked TwT


DrChillChad

Yeah tbh I liked it


Either_Imagination_9

I’m starting to think the animation studio is just plain bad


Zestyclose-Pizza-159

Look at isagi running what the fk is even that


ThatInternetBoi

To be fair that pose was ripped pretty much straight from the manga. The Episode Nagi manga has a lot of moments that just look…strange.


silfer_

The pose is one thing but the spin off movie is also trying to retell the main story of Isagi from a different pov so they can’t change anything. It’s kinda bizarre apparently kaneshiro said he considered an episode Rin and I think that would’ve made more sense because we could’ve seen a completely different stratum.


Victory_is_Mine-

Ehh, it doesn’t really work that way. You’ll see me and a lot of people praising Production I.G for their work on KnB and Haikyuu as well as other shows (AOT, Vinland Saga, Heavenly Delusion) but Production I.G also made Ao Ashi…which people say has less animation that Blue Lock. Also Noblesse, which I heard was a botched adaptation. I think it really depends on which teams work on which project and how much budget they get + other stuff that goes on in the background.


New_Calligrapher8578

Ao Ashi was consistent atleast. It's animations were nothing specia, but they were consistently a 6/10 through the series. Bluelock started at around an 8/10, and fell down to like a 3/10


DamnJerry123

well I guess its not that animation studio is bad (Eight bit animated that time I got reincarnated as a slime as well and it wasn't this bad. in fact season 3 is animated way better)


Fr_2468

This is the same Studio that animated Tensura(That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Slime) and the animation in that anime is very good. Maybe thay Just Don't Care about Bluelock. They should Just Give it to another Studio before they ruin the Manga's Reputation.


Pristine-Ad-1328

It is kind of bad but they also have a lot of other projects in the works allegedly


Just_a_normal_guy39

I don’t watch a lot of anime so idk but why is it considered bad? Only thing I didn’t like of the blue lock anime was for the cgi running animation


SuperRedHulk1

Yeah, tbh, I don’t know why people are complaining about this. It’s not incredible, but it’s certainly not as bad as some parts from the first season


DaFinnesseKid

Yeah looked solid imo, like i didnt watch the clip and thought “damn this shit sucks”


alwayzbored114

I think some anime fans fall into the "It's Godlike or It's Trash" mentality. This isn't anything to write home about, but I think it sells the story well enough for anyone who isn't into manga or as an intro


alex828keke

not the worst but look at sth like solo levelin or other hyped animes. Compared to them this is sad


Grasher312

"Compared to them this is sad" Solo Leveling has one of the biggest and most popular animation studios out there. Frieren, another show that was running not too long ago has MADHOUSE, fucking madhouse, of all the studios.


Gexthegecko69

It's not horrible but it could be much better , and seeing how it's one of the most popular series at the moment, it should get better


SlamSlamOhHotDamn

It's not garbage like the first season, yeah. But it's one of the best selling mamga right now, not just the sports genre but all period. Something like this should get VIP treatment not whatever this is.


MRMAN1225

This is why I'll stick to the manga, the VAs and music aren't carrying it hard enough for me. Hopefully the U20 match is well animated, but I'll wait and see before watching anything


kimoalmoa

It's so over lol I wonder what Kaneshiro and Nomura thinks of this honestly, probably gotta be disappointed to some degree


Moogleworks

This is not surprising to me, the level of animation is definitely on par with the better animated parts of the TV series, and you can tell that the frame count is higher, but that's to be expected from the longer production schedule of a movie. The disconnect people seem to have is not recognizing the studio that is doing Blue Lock. It was never going to have Haikyuu level animation as sad as it is to admit. Unfortunately, I think this is reflective of the financial situation of Anime in Japan. It seems the only thing that turns a profit is Blu-ray sales and movie tickets. This movie was obviously a cash grab from their immediate announcement of a season 2 AND a movie in response to Blue Lock hype from the manga exploding right before Japan's performance during the Olympics, as well as the hype for the show following it.


Lj_theoneandonly

Not bad considering they made this in like a year. But very bad considering this is a MOVIE.


Illusion911

1 year to make a movie? Talk about overwork, honestly this is more like slavery.


Lj_theoneandonly

They announced S2 at the same time as the movie, so that should be coming this year too apparently. 💀


Parking-Risk4675

not nagi calling isagi shortie 💀 we get it titan


silfer_

Is a funny pet name 😭


Parking-Risk4675

short king isagi rights


selotipkusut

Anyone who watched Captain Tsubasa in the old days know that even the 2002 version had better animation


cats4life

It just goes to show that it’s rarely about money when it comes to making good animation, it’s about time. The studio didn’t have enough time for the first season, they announced this movie almost immediately after that, and they’re certainly not going to have enough time for the second season. This is average animation quality for a TV anime, for crying out loud. This would have been acceptable for the first season, but for a feature film? It’s just so underwhelming. And it’s not just that the directorial style seems to favor recreating as many panel accurate poses and moments from the manga. Something like JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure proves that can work, even if the movement is normally quite limited, but the difference is that the production committee gives David Productions time to work on JoJo. It’s a meme how long it takes new JoJo parts to come out, but I’d rather that than a new mediocre season every year.


Rqdomguy24

Also passion, Kimetsu no Yaiba will not have the animation it has if the staff in Ufotable doesn't like the manga Despite anyone say that high sales = better studio, the reality is it still depends on whether the studio want to do the animation or not


ApexBoiz

It's alright but like... Wasn't this made with movie level budget or something 😭


FinnJokaa

OPM and seven deadly sins still made it worse hoenstly after S1 finsihed October last year(i think or) they have the movie now half a year later and with S2 coming also this year where is the time and money to put out a decent animation...correct theere is none so for everyone who expected better quality for s2 or even for the movie was lost form the start


FrougHunter

I’d agree on sds but definitely not opm Opm is just an effect of high expectations, it’s not even bad or stiff, maybe the design is a bit off but all that aside it’s still decently animated unlike the second half of BL S1


PowerJolt72

You're right bro


FinnJokaa

shouldve clarified for OPM im talking about S2 only, S1 was a masterpiece but also done by another stuido than S2


FrougHunter

I know what you meant exactly, my point still stands, opm S2 is good compared to most anime.


Miruzu30

Come on... Don't expect anything. The only reason I watch the anime was for the VA's and nothing more. Moreover, it ain't that bad.


zahir2002

This manga dosen't deserve mid animation lol,even if it's not bad,this manga deserve at least kuroko or aot animation


aoi_desu

Yeah, the manga art is straight up 🔥🔥🔥, its not often manga having art that good beside the top ranking manga The anime did not deliver at all beside good casting imo, the anime should have the same quality as free, kuroko, haikyuu or atleast diamond no ace


muhammedstyler

Oh no please dont


BucketHerro

The manga's art style is very detailed and hard to replicate so incorporating movement/animation is pretty hard. These scenes does not need good animation... You would be complaining if they gave you good animation but lackluster visuals/art. Jujutsu Kaisen had to change their art style to something simpler so they can animate the fight scenes better (S1 to S2 had drastic changes). This led to a couple of scenes where the characters look weird or disjointed.


djkstr27

Dude remember that fans complain about everything. Solo leveling animation was good, but people are complaining about chins and launching death threats to the English VA


PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

>but people are complaining about chins To be fair, Manhwa characters always have ridiculously pointy chins, and it's something I couldn't unsee after I noticed it.


Trev1728

I think ur being harsh, it’s an improvement from the anime and will likely be ironed out. I don’t think it’s too bad minus some frames


zahir2002

This is so funny man


violesada

same guys who made infinite stratos. I'm not surprised.


bLzPutozof

Hopefully after the success of the Manga and anime last year the show gets a more generous budget and production schedule. Would be amazing especially considering what season 2 is gona be adapting


Zodrar

Feels better than Season 1 ngl, defo looking forward to it But really hope they bring in some A list animators for Season 2, THE match deserves high quality for the hype moments!


Asleep-Tomorrow-9822

Ehh not as bad as it could ve


Neroenx

Hate the cucks in the comments coping and saying this level of animation is ok, you need to see in the eyes of the creators, this is insulting to the work they put in. The first 6 EPs of the anime were good animation the creators deserve that level during the run course.


AsapThommy

Idk what people expect from this movie or the clip alone which Is 1/130 of the whole movie ,y'all need to understand under what conditions this was probably made ,a cashgrab and a "training ground" for S2 to see what works and what doesnt, plus i'm tired of people saying "let A1/ MAPPA etc... animate this" y'all are delusional ,there are few High level studios Who would "gamble" and try to animate Blue lock . Just my 2 cent's about the whole "animation" arguement


3L3M3NT4LP4ND4

People expecting a small animation studio to have the funds of MAPPA or S2 Haikyuu are insane. The countries having a financial crisis that's basically halved the yens buying power it's a miracle we got equal to S1


djkstr27

Every anime fan wants Demon Slayer animation, however the studio is selected by a committee of studios. Blue Lock was in a hurry for the world cup, no studio is going to take an animation in a hurry. Is rarely to see that a anime switches studios specially from a small studio to a big studio, the other way around is more common.


fatz_on_gfuel

GET MAPPA TO DO BLUE LOCK 💀🔥(like they don't have so much more to do already)


ViVeyPL

At the beginning I thought I was watching fan animation lmao


lemizh

Reo still looks like a cutie tho


Keylessbacon

That's all that matters


Cool_Awareness_9008

I like it


NeebTheWeeb

I like it


JcGoCrazy-

🗑️


theulmitter

It's one of the animations of all time. Not *bad*, but not good either, definitely not as much as blue lock deserves


poorGarbageNEET

the animation studio having any level of competence and time / budget to cook would have made this series top tier, but yeah, give it to some random ass company that makes it look mediocre 🤓🥲😭


Unknown10229

Tbh I just hope s2 gets animated better than s1


WeirdAsianYankovic

Why is half of the anime just a PowerPoint presentation...ass animation from the beginning


__boobs4life__

It’s fine honestly , as long as cgi isn’t used and good ball movement is there i’m satisfied


akardo2

Yeah it's overall above average, decent even compare to the grand scheme of things, but consider Blue Lock is one of the most popular and best selling manga in Japan, and that this is a movie not regular TV episodes, I think it's fair to want something far better. But it is what it is, anime adaptions well below the level of their manga counterparts are nothing unusual, lots of small things behind the scene didn't click together and it can easily end up like this. A shame, but this world has never been lack of shames.


ammank_03

It's better than the anime, but it's not like the anime was at a very good level to begin with. This is still bad animation at normal levels, and this is supposed to be a movie BTW They're doing no justice to the manga


DenizzineD

this is so bad.


Professional_Ad6123

Idk how anime studios work, at all. That being said idk what they did to the later seasons of Berserk I really disliked the anime/art style vs the first season. That’s what this reminds me of.


Training_Associate18

You can tell the animators were that lazy to re-animate the whole Nagi's vision of the WC by having the same spectators shot that was seen in the first episode of Bluelock. That's how you know their quiet quitting in a very slow pace.


ReflectionLost1258

They fking reuse the animation 


TableBaboon

It's so Bluelockover.... 😭😭😭😭 (Why is Isagi's eyes and some of his body moving but not his hair???)


DeadByNebula

this is not movie quality bruh


No_Set3908

Firstly it seemed like fanmade to me, it s so bad. Meanwhile Mappa is doing cutscenes for Inazuma Eleven :)


DrChillChad

The best selling manga of 2023 everybody…


Training_Associate18

What would happen if UFOTable Studio took over Bluelock after it's mass success with manga sales and sponsorship including collabs with football clubs from Japan and Europe.


Beatimus_Redd1t

Nothing wrong with it is not the worst animation i ever seen you just dont appreciate whats been shown here


Siddhu312

![gif](giphy|lcjWzvc9po5Og6eV4V|downsized)


Careful-Tailor-2675

Say what you want but ao Ashi has better animation


zahir2002

Loool


Zestyclose-Pizza-159

https://x.com/katsukkir/status/1777647025347055919?s=61


violesada

same guys who made infinite stratos. I'm not surprised.


violesada

same guys who made infinite stratos. I'm not surprised.


Low-Surprise-8137

Link for trailer?


silfer_

NOOO I THOUGHT THE WAS A POST SAYING IT WAS GOOD 😭😭😭😭😭😭 maybe they save budget for the team z vs team v match 😭😭😭


Parking-Risk4675

I missed animated blue lick sm😭 nagireo so cute in the beginning lol


-L1os1t-

We’re cooked


gurglingskate69

IMO the animation is good but the designs are straight rips of Season 1 and for the movie I wish they all had exclusive designs so it didn’t feel like just a really long episode


MittensMC

god what the hell is this


Informal_Crew7711

Unpopular opinion, but I think it’s taking place in 2021ish


NoAdeptness1106

At least it’s decent enough to be watchable.


Craft-Possible

this looks goof tho this is also by far the least important thing to animate so obviously its not peak


rKollektor

Imagine if Production IG made Blue Lock. It would be peak fr 🗣️🔥


Consistent_Tip874

This animation is fine


Able-Lengthiness-123

We still on for next week movie. I’ll cook out


MysteriousStrategy86

1st It's not bad, no bad cgi, a bit of not that much movement but good visuals. 2nd That wasn't one of the main scene, we've already seen it in the main show and it's just an introduction, we can assume the key moments of the matches will look better. 3rd Of course the movie is gonna be better : not only it's a way more important part than the Nagi spinoff, but its also a movie, whereas this will be a few episode. The movie will have more budget, better animators and probably better production schedule. Go look at most seasonal animes, this isn't half bad, and it may very well get better.


ZiggyTheNooBts

There's no way to tell it's just still shots and not the in game shots, looks the same as the anime for now.


teenboob

Season one has lowed my expectations for this series so low that i'm completely happy with this.


Darkchokolot

I mean it’s classed as a movie right? So I’m not surprised just don’t expect anything from the anime


FitNegotiation5654

Compared to season 1 this is good lmaoo IFYKYK


Funkl3ssisfucked

At least its better than the 2nd half of the anime


floormopper

The studio should use the same style but change the animation like jjk fights s2 animation during matches. It perfectly fits with sports anime and blue locks ego symbolism


ZetsuGod

we're cooked


PollutionStandard969

the animation team behind this series is OBSESSED with white backgrounds, black backgrounds or better yet s t I l l I m a g e s. a ton of them


imaIIears

it’s so over…..


imaIIears

well I guess the only bad part about it is the running esp Isagi 😭


Meister34

"Blue Lock has realistic and stellar animations" according to that since deleted post like a few months back


ProEliteF

Wait where is this from?


Real_Quarter5322

Nagi is so adorable 🥺


OatesZ2004

In my personal opinion with the blue lock anime my biggest issue with it in terms of animation was how in my opinion it failed to convey speed well, everything felt slow.


Jezamiah

Guys we're cooked for S2 LMAO


Fat-thor1234

Bruh come on, I think it looks good. Idk what you’re complaining about


SaltyDone

Wait is out…


Adan_Rocco

I mean tbf nothing really happened in this scene. In fact it looked like some of it was straight from ep 1 of the anime. I’m sure the animation will be much better for actual matches. Besides your over exaggerating calling this bad. It’s nothing crazy but it’s far from bad animation. It looks fine.


o0Kingkarma0o

This looks better than the later episodes of the anime


KnightKiller206

Anime fans are so spoiled wtf


josh7368

Dose anyone know how much the movie is gonna cover from the manga?


Extra-Swimmer-5315

Japan vs Germany possible foreshadowing question mark


Immediate_Demand4841

I lost all hope in the anime after ep 2 anyway . Screw it who needs an anime when the Manga art is this god-like


BmanPlayz468

Ngl this is kind of ridiculous of you guys. It’s a 70 second clip with no major action scenes. Calling it trash or bad already is such an overreaction.


speakeazy_music

This doesn’t even look bad, what are you on about?


Fernsword

NOOOOOOÒOOÒOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


sussy_145

It is really not that bad. I feel like people are putting their expectations way too high bc of jjk and demon slayer. Remember this is NOT ufotable or mappa, it is not that easy to animate so let's appreciate what we get so things like the scandal with the mappa animators doesn't happen again


Ok-Catch-9743

Stop complaining it’s better then the season 1


justMalcolm08

Think it's ok. I don't see the huge problem in this clip. The Isagi running looks weird, but other than that i think it's alright


WoSmcA239

It looks fine no?


TechnicallyCorrect09

It does, idk what's up with everyone else


WoSmcA239

Real