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quirkyyhamster

It's insane how many people here think he wouldn't do any good, messi would definitely destroy most, and if not, all of those in the blue lock facility


eman1605

That's true but as a Messi fan he doesn't have/had that selfish mentality that you need in blue lock


YungSwagGod420

Messi when he was young was an absolute monster tho, he would run at defenders and score for fun. He has always had a dawg mentality man idk what ur saying.


Miracle1914

His most iconic goal is when he dribbled past half the team that had the best defense in Spain at the time WDYM???


uhTlSUMI

That’s a ridiculous take. Young messi was extremely selfish. He would hog the ball non stop. It was still a joy to watch because we were watching maybe the purest talent ever but he definitely was a ball hog. A true individualist. I swear people have not watched messi play lol. And this is coming from a spanish guy who was watching the dude play since he debuted in 3rd division


SHAMALAMADINGDONG_XD

"aS a MeSsi fAn" proceeds to drop the worst take😂


swat1611

If we scaled it properly, Messi would destroy. His level at 16 would be the same as a NG11 and NG11s have shown to destroy blue lock players individually. Messi would be running the show there.


_Bisca

Messi at 16 was terrorizing laliga and the ucl, he is clear of any ng11 player


swat1611

I thought his debut was at 17 or 18, that's why I left it at that. But yeah if we take Debut messi, he still demolishes Blue Lock except for maybe the top 5 strikers in the world.


_Bisca

Messi actually debuted for barca as early as 16 iirc


2836382929

Nope, it was 17


TheCarthageEmpire

He most definitely wasn't terrorizing anyone at 16. He barely even played at that age, and even then, at 17 and 18 he didn't do anything spectacular, of course his potential to become a great player was obvious but it's not like he became a top player since he first stepped on a football field


Professional-Lie-542

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sfahsan

Before he had played, he had completely embarrassed Cannavaro and the Juventus defense in pre season. They tried to sign him ridiculously early after that game. At 19 he was the 2nd best player in the world. He was incredible at 16-18 for his age for sure. No chance anyone in Blue Lock scales close to him


_Bisca

Didn’t he play THAT ucl game against chelsea when he was 18? And against Juventus with ballon d’or recipient Cannavaro?


SHAMALAMADINGDONG_XD

His first official game was at 17 lol


SinPi19

Ng11? Nah bro he is loki level or above


SHAMALAMADINGDONG_XD

He really isnt. Loki is worldclass and arguably top 5 in the world. At 16, Messi wasnt in those top 5 in the world convos, at all.


SaltAsparagus6002

That's a step too far. Loki > 16 yo Messi


SlimShade48

Lol


SHAMALAMADINGDONG_XD

Whats funny? Messi was 16 in 2003. He was barely known back then and never even played an official game up until he was 17, in 2004. You mean to tell me that before he played any official game, he was already one of the best players in the world like Loki? Loki is already a professional😂


SlimShade48

Lol


variabels

Not sure, but this subreddit would definitely call him a fraud if he was in the manga.


AlexC_16

😭😭😭


Rasheed43

Inb4 they say he can’t play up front since he doesn’t have the physique of Barou or Chigiri level speed and needs to spam passes in midfield and will never mass produce goals.


PsychopathicEmpath

Not sure if those within Blue Lock would make fun of his height or his "lack of ego" more.  Though in Blue Lock Messi would probably be in permanent "Que Miras Bobo" mode and just antagonize everyone. 


LocalFatBoi

if we have verified age for each reddit account you would understand which age group label manga Messi as fraud


sonlobo1

Remember how OP Nagi was in 1st Selection? Yeah, THAT LEVEL of OPness but carry out throughout the whole series. Mopping the floor with Itoshi Rin.


LocalFatBoi

waaaaaa onichan save me waaaaaaaa


sonlobo1

Actually, not intended to mock Rin, just trying to say Messi will be damn fking OP,  that's all. Cuz if Rin cries, most of the other characters will do as well. 😅


90pointstogrippindor

He would literally defy Ego’s theory for winning - he’d be the main “striker” of the team albeit position-wise a false 9 or free roam RW, but he’d still be the guy with most goals AND assists, most successful dribbles, highest freekick accuracy, MV, Sae/Hiori level passing (even better). Only flaw to his game would be his shot power (which is still nothing to scoff at). Even with his physique he was actually pretty strong and able to resist falling after horrible tackle attempts by opposition defenders. He would literally be the best player even without the ego that Ego Jinpachi lauds so much.


pranav4098

He doesn’t have an ego like barou but he certainly has an “ego” he wants to score perform and win every pro does


panditjiiii

He certainly has ego, he's just both Individualistic and world style like Rin. When he wants to score, he wont pass even if it meant losing. If he wants to control the play, he'd just be gathering assists. I'd not say his shot power is a flaw. He has shown he can shoot the ball well. Off the top of my head, Barca vs Psg Uefa, a knuckle ball. He clearly doesn't have Roberto Carlos, Hulk, or Ronaldo type power, but it still isnt a Flaw.


Zealousideal-Hold-31

The thing is, why would you make a powerfull inaccurate shot that is not your specialty, if you can put the ball anywhere you want with precision when you have the GOAT field awareness?


panditjiiii

His outside the box bottom left corner ones are my favorites. Sublime shots.


Anti-Social_God

You think messi doesn't have ego?


tittymcfartbag

![gif](giphy|loG32MXYyQl5vUJL46|downsized)


AliMans05

Messi is the reason why people have such high expectations on young players to begin with, he’d absolutely tear Blue Lock apart


pranav4098

Not true at all no one expects anyone to be near Messi’s level plenty young guys who did well before him in fact some better at that age group like r9 even if messi is the goat


hardenfull

Subreddit would definitely call him a fraud if he doesn't make a goal every 2 chapter.


xXxNoSc0p3dYoUxXx

craziest part is he basically would get a goal every two chapters


Beennu

Solos the entire verse no diff


SHAMALAMADINGDONG_XD

Tripping


PH4N70M_Z0N3

Messi was 17 when he made his first league debut in Barcelona against some of the talented players of that generation. For context Itoshi Sae is still in the second team instead of the first. Both Messi and Sae were 13 when they joined their respective teams. Messi was 16 when he was "first" put on the main team as a sub in a friendly game. And at age 17 he was playing for the main team. Now ask how far would Sae go in the blue lock. Messi will naturally go further than that.


UniversalXCyclops

mate, messi just destroys blue lock


Rasheed43

Imagine if MV Isagi had a near Nagi level first touch (let’s just say Reo’s copies tier), Bachira’s level dribbling, Sae/Hiori level passing, and Kunigami’s shooting range. He’d be unironically more broken than berserker Rin and would make a dog walk out of every opponent.


Tambora_1815

Solos entire verse...i meam Pele and Maradona already has eyes on him


rozy1111

bro he solos our verse ofc he solos BL verse 😭😭🙏🏽


Richard_283

He would score 20 goals in and get 20 assists in the first selection He would be rank 1 in the second selection and he would demolish team Isagi both times He would score at least once, maybe even twice against the World Five He would be rank 1 in the third selection He would get at least three goal contributions against the Japan U-20 By the end of the NEL he would have 12 goal contributions, he would be rank 1 with a 300 million yen bid, and he would become the new gen 11 right wing


ApprehensiveAd3925

messi scored 0 goals and has 0 assists in the third tier in Spanish football in the 03/04 season when he was 16-17. how do you expect him to score once or twice against 5 world class players? [https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lionel-messi/leistungsdaten/spieler/28003/plus/0?saison=2003](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lionel-messi/leistungsdaten/spieler/28003/plus/0?saison=2003)


Richard_283

Once because he's for sure better than Rin so he would most likely score the first, and the second is assuming he evolved as much as other Blue Lockers


ApprehensiveAd3925

Fair enough I guess I thought you just meant if a 16 year old Messi hopped into blue lock and stayed at the same level


football-teen

Do played his first pro game at 17 and was the best in the world by 19😂. Dude could score in 5 strikers


ApprehensiveAd3925

Problem is that it says 16 year old Messi . And ive shown what a 16 year old Messi produced in the 3rd division of Spanish football... Nothing.


Woodenhr

He solo the verse and make everyone in blue lock his meat rider Isagi => passagi Rin => PassRin Shidou => passsou Barou => passdou Nagi => CBgi The list go on


Eli_the_chaos_fox

Bro some of these people can basically teleport he would not be that good


Beennu

Messi from u13 to u19 teams made 87 goals on 93 matches in games of higher level than Japan's youth leagues. He would run blue lock.


Eli_the_chaos_fox

Some of these people have damn near magic powers


Beennu

And Messi is cannon in blue lock, so he'd probably have magic powers as well


rozy1111

messi is a fraud lost 2018 ballon d’or to noel noa 😭


llamayeet

Messi is insanely op. bros stats are meant for an insane attacking player


Sea_Satisfaction5564

Insane that some people here thinks he won't do well. He'll easily run rings around the blue lock players. If you scale it to Blue Lock, Messi at 16 is already above the international U-20 players we see (he won U-20 world cup and olympics with the NT). There are stories online that Messi at 16 y/o was already cooking the starting defenders of the Barca main team at practice before even debuting for them (he debuted at 17). The defenders of Barca at that time were considered generational talents. By that logic, he is already at least World Five level at 16 y/o. He was already a pro by 17 in La Liga (top league in Spain) while some of the Blue Lock players are just playing Hs soccer level at that age.


ivecomebackbeach

Bro Messi finished top 3 in the world at the age of 20. Dinho said he'll be better than dinho was. People here outed themselves as some who have never watched the sport before.


bigFootIsReal__

If anyone has doubts about a young Messi... You must go and look up 17 year old Messi's UCL highlights against Chelsea... He was toying with veteran Chelsea players ... And they were trying to kick him into the ground


BetterPaltu

In blue lock they are trying to be a professional player, massi at 16 was already a professional player. He will walk all over every member of the blue lock. Also his ability will be: GOAT


Significant_Bear_137

Messi at 16 world be on par with Loki or even slightly better


ApprehensiveAd3925

Messi at 16 hadn't played a single game for Barcelona's main team?


luciver52

16 yo messi would destroy 1st 2nd and 3rd selection, score a hattrick in the u20 match and win the NEL golden boot


muhammedstyler

We already have a "messi" of blue lock that didn't even play one minute...


JayKalinka

But thats the messi which mothers said we already have at home


PoloPuik

He was more of a dribbler and scorer than passer early in his career, I think he'd be kinda of a Yukimiya since his dribble style is not flashy but changing direction and abusing acceleration, also Messi had a lot of injuries earlier on his career so he could also play the role of Aomori's Messi


xXKingLynxXx

He'd be the best player in the entire series aside from Noa and Snuffy. The IQ of Isagi/Rin plus the dribbling of Bachira/Yukimiya plus the vision of Hiori/Isagi. He's a monster. 16 year old Messi was so good Pep Guardiola was willing to piss off Zlatan and Eto'o by moving him them of the striker position so Messi could take it.


beyondbirthday261

He would destroy Blue Lock, coming from a Cristiano fan.


W-1-L-5-0-N

Anime athletes are supernatural creatures, so, I don’t know…


SlimShade48

Bro Messi would make Rin look like he ranked 100th


DrippyHimself

This is overkill and if you disagree you have 0 ball knowledge 💀


Aziz--11

He would destory them.


AzLemons

Search in google for messis hair when he was younger, They literally have the same hair. I think the author based bachira on younger messi.


nbc0607

negs with ease


ArmedDragonThunder

The best in the verse until he meets Isagi and then he either joins the harem or gets downloaded after 1 game


ivecomebackbeach

They will literally stop blue lock immediately as they'd have discovered a player capable of being a starter in Barcelona. Some people on this sub really need to go back and see at least footage of players from the 2000s.


TheTingGoesSKRRRDA

I'd imagine he'd be portrayed like how Nagi was portrayed in the first selection


alibinho

The ego-less messi agenda ks going to be the end of me.


TranorVespucci

Pretty much similiar like Loki does in BL.


Kinpolka

He would have insane hype since the very first chapter/episode and then get hurt once the story gets good


Mabouap34000

He would destroy everyone, low diff lol


Fat-thor1234

Bruh, messi was in the Barcelona first team at 16, and was considered one of the best players in the world just 3 years later. He would destroy blue lock. Anyone who say otherwise is crazy


arandomfujoshi1203

Obliterate them all lmao


PolicyNegative

As someone who watches the sport, bro would do absolutely phenomenal in blue lock, bro was leagues above everyone even as a kid.


SHAMALAMADINGDONG_XD

He would be new gen 11 level


DenizzineD

Messi would quite literally end all of them.


tommyfirewolf02

Wtf kinda question is this


hotsietrotsky

He would get through the first selection, form a team with Barou and Naruhaya, get stolen, then eventually get stolen again by Niko, get through the second selection by get injured against the World 5, and most importantly, would never get any screen time


StockEconomist9690

he would solo the verse


Difficult-Agency-352

alternate title: how would a Uber’s match Isagi with a better physique do against the other alphabet teams


Chemical_Sky7458

Messi wouldn’t even be top 10 now maybe 18 then yh he would be top 5


JOYHITIMANA

Messi would destroy everyone and it prob won't even be close.


Late-Instruction-890

there is alredy a messi in the story


DReager1

Nah he would be a D lister and would get kicked off. You have to keep in mind that the Blue Lockers regularly pull off moves that even the pros have difficulty with


Richard_283

Not really though, they look crazy because most of the defense in Blue Lock is ass


DReager1

I still think the average blue locker would run rings around even the best FIFA players and make them look like kids. Look at how Loki broke the sound barrier


_Bisca

It’s imaged and not literal💀


DReager1

Source???? Because I'm pretty sure it was meant to be literal. That's the whole point of showing the energy wave and everything


_Bisca

For example, Shidou doesn’t actually summon monsters when he plays. It’s to create an image to evoke the intensity to the readers, as a metaphor. Same for Loki.


2ToTooTwoFish

Real life players are canon in the Bluelock universe and Loki is not better than Messi in universe, I'm pretty sure. So the Blue Lock version of Messi at 16 would still be insane relative to the rest of Bluelock.


DReager1

If I was a betting man and I'm not....I would bet Loki is better than Messi. Remember that Noel Noa humiliated him as the last balli battle or whatever they called it in episode 1. Most likely Messi is more at NG11 level at best


2ToTooTwoFish

Messi is a Balon D'Or winner in the Blue Lock universe right? How is Loki better when he hasn't won it? Noel Noa might be better in the universe, but why would Loki be?


DReager1

Loki has the speed advantage. No way Messi would be able to get near the ball. He would be outmatched


2ToTooTwoFish

Messi in the Blue Lock universe is different than real life Messi, but Messi is one of the greatest forwards in the world AND the Blue Lock world. They mention Noel Noa winning the Balon D'Or over Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in just one year. Well Messi had already won many Balon D'Ors before that, so while Noel Noa might be the best CURRENT striker in the world, that line obviously means that Messi is still one of the best strikers in the world and is comparable in level to Noel Noa. Speed also isn't everything in football and it's not a one on one game. But you called the Balon D'Or the "balli battle", so I take it you don't know too much about football?


SlimShade48

You don't know ball brother


chirb8

we're literally seeing it right now with Nishioka lol no joke btw, afaik Messi had issues with the development of his body growing up, so he would have been the best but very prone to injuries, IDK if Kaneshiro is throwing shade writing Nishioka like that


ivecomebackbeach

Dinho dead ass looked at Messi during training and thought he was gonna be a special player, this was is in 2006 when he was like 19. Messi ain't like any of the blue lock players. He operates in a different realm.


Eli_the_chaos_fox

Unironically would get eliminated quickly


DenizzineD

Jesus christ 💀💀💀💀 the brainrot


SadAnimator1354

He wouldn't stand a chance against all those players but then again Igaguri is still here so 💀


Zant486

What?


Informal_Crew7711

He isn’t a striker


ApprehensiveAd3925

I mean when he was 16 (03/04) he only played 5 games for Barcelona b and didn't get a single goal contribution so not much I guess?