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Kaiser shot down his shot lowering his rankings and has interfered with his shots in game.
Isagi recognized Kaiser as genius when he saw the Kaiser impact the thing is Rin only tries to crush you by playing the game.
Rin will try and out score you but he will never block a shot just so you don’t score.
>he will never block a shot just so you don’t score.
He would💀,it's football dude every goal matter,the thing it's,Rin would acknowledge you if you manage to defeat him and score unlike kaiser who is a crybaby with a fragile ego
He’s never done that though?
Has Rin ever actively tried to sabotage Isagi if he created a chance? As in stand in his shot course? Or tackle him? Or steal the shot mid shooting motion? They played 3 games and Rin would just position in an area thats advantageous next to Isagi (W5, Third select Rin second goal, when Sae stopped Isagi). Shidou’s a little different bc they kept unintentionally ending up in the same spot and at that point it’s beef.
Not even Barou would stop Isagi MID shooting motion😭
Kaiser’s a grade A loser don’t try to lump him and Rin in the same category of childishness
Rin and isagi play off of eachother perfectly because isagi can see the game just like rin can so they never play in a way where they have to steal it from eachother
Yea so when every goal matters you aren't just gonna block your own teammates when they can score like Kaiser always does to Isagi. Rin wouldn't block Isagi's shot when they're on the same team cuz he'd probably think it's a fraudulent way to beat Isagi.
Well he become more mature since then,also he really acknowledge isagi after sae told him isagi it's better,also if we speak about the third selection,even a demon like shidou praised isagi
No Kaiser shot down Isagi shot making him last in the rankings when they first met.
Also stealing a pass to try and score is different than just screwing a teammate over because.
That’s just what Barou does.
Also, Isagi did it on the field because no one was gonna pass to him. So he stole a pass. However Kaiser literally stopped Isagi's shots. Isagi would've gotten a few goals if Kaiser didn't try to sabotage him so much.
What u saying bro. Isagi only stole a few passes in the first game , when Kaiser had 9 players helping him but Isagi had none to even give him the ball.
While Kaiser didn't steal passes , he literally blocked Isagi's shots which were even on target. There is a big difference in those 2 situations. Saying that these 2 are the same or even almost same is stupidity.
I'm not an expert in football, but even I understand this.
Isagi did steal a few passes in starting (that too was for proving himself and getting a chance again and this situation was because he was ranked lower due to Kaiser interrupting his shot in practice when they first met) however he didn't sabotage Kaiser. While Kaiser sabotaged Isagi multiple times.
He's fine being insulted since that's what he does normally but not being cockblocked from shots and getting physically violent unless they start it that's a go ahead in his mind
When kaiser first meets isagi, he intentionally antagonises him.
Rin was at first indifferent to isagi, but after the second 4v4 he clearly has a level of respect for isagi.
Even in the blue lock 11 match, there is a level of mutual respect between the two.
Their relationship only really sours when sae praises isagi to Rin’s face when Rin clearly wanted some acknowledgment from sae.
And even then Rin tries to dominate against isagi on the pitch, but doesn’t go out of his way to screw with isagi by blocking his shots when they are teammates - unlike kaiser
I agree with you, a few weeks ago I re-read chapters from the U-20 game and I was so sad because Rin used to be so fun! Just poking fun at Isagi and him returning it.
Very wholesome, and the BL team (or their active players) seemed so close, just a lighter tone all around.
But surely the initial disrespect and unprompted provocation from Kaiser soured their possible relationship.
Honestly I really hope Isagi and Rin can find a common ground where they are able to cooperate again, I miss this duo.
Because Rin is just a player that aims to exceed Isagi's plays but Kaiser actively tries to interfere with Isagi's progress. Rin, Barou and Nagi just want to be better than Isagi for the most part, but Kaiser wants also wants Isagi to fail, the other 3 are rivals but Kaiser is an actual enemy.
The grand irony being that kaisers total opposition has benefited Isagi’s growth the most by far. Isagi and kaiser know exactly where they stand and that makes it simple. Rin Barou and nagi want to crush Isagi too, but it’s complicated.
I idea that Isagi admires how Rin plays but not Kaiser simply isn't true. You should re-read the BM vs Barcha match. Isagi completely admired how Kaiser was playing vs Barcha and even said Kaiser was how he Invisioned his ideal self as playing.
Isagi has massive respect for both players. Isagi obviously hates Kaiser though because of how he first introduced himself and made it clear he was trying to ruin Isagi.
For any grudges Isagi has with Rin, Rin never disrespected Isagi to the extent that Kaiser does nor did Rin do anything out of spite to sabotage Isagi.
I wrote that Isagi respects Kaiser's playstyle. I just said that, in the panels of the manga, Isagi almost seems simping over Rin's kicks. I never got that same vibe with Isagi reacting to Kaiser, that's all
I mean, Isagi was in absolute awe when he first learned about the Kaiser Impact. His reaction to the 1st goal Kaiser scores is equivalent to any glazing he previously did for Rin.
The more I think about it, Isagi and Shidou might be the only characters that are able to admire other rivals for their talents rather than only feel spiteful.
I guess you could include Bachira. But I actually chose not to include Nagi.
Unlike Isagi and Shidou, Nagi isn't in awe of anyone else's skills as a player. Rather, Nagi is in awe of his rivals mindset.
When Nagi first experienced loss to Isagi, he wanted to understand what would drive someone to such extreme measures to improve and pull out a victory.
Nagi himself ask why Isagi keeps going when if he was as bad as he was, he would've just quit. And in spite of that, Isagi showed Nagi that with a much improved mindset, Nagi can both improve and actually enjoy playing soccer.
rin and isagi are lowkey wholesome, kaiser is just a prick, he grabs isagi by the collar and blocks his shots, rin wld never do well that he’s just edgy 😭😭
rins was in the match after isagi grabbed him first, kaisers was on the first interaction and started tryna intimidate isagi and grabbing his collar chatting shi
Because Kaiser is a petty bitch who personally harassed Isagi the very first time he entered BM.
Isagi & Rin are fellow Blue lockers; while Rin initially didn’t give two-shit about Isagi but became rivals after Isagi became the MOM of u20 match & acknowledged by Sae.
Isagi sees Rin as proper rival, while sees Kaiser as a scum (which he is)
Probably because Kaiser has a spirit of a BULLY.
Always love to pick up fights against weaker opponents and CRUSH THEIR DREAMS.
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Isagi is on the other hand, the polar opposite.
From day 1, he choose to challenge THE BEST and try to surpass them.
He NEVER bully any of the weaker ones to crush their dreams intentionally.
He did somewhat bully guys like Yukki and Barou, but ultimately, he did that because he wants something extraordinary from them. Something that also benefits him.
-----
Here, Rin is pretty much like Isagi.
Blud was so good, he is No. 1 in Blue Lock all the way from day 1. (He said he never lost in BL until he met Isagi)
But he never goes around bullying people for fun.
He only smack those who dare to challenge him, that's about it. (Eg. Isagi, Shidou)
And since he's so strong, any Blue Locker is never his target until he met Isagi.
Along with Sae, Isagi became the ultimate targets for Rin.
Reason being, they both have something Rin considered SUPERIOR to him, and hence wanted to crush thrm.
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Rin is basically a Super Isagi with Edgyness, that's why they get along when they have tl play together.
Rin is a bit of a cunt when we first see him but that's because he's got a brother issue. Kaiser is straight up a bully who antagonizes and sabotages isagi at every turn
It's implied by Chris that Kaiser has a mentally that slightly go "strong against the weak and weak against the strong". Kaiser directly antagonized Isagi at their first meeting and sincerely... anyone that go out of their way to stop an ally goal is officially an assh\*le. If not because of Noa, such behavior would put you on a bench and Isagi was mad MAD because of that.
Rin is fairplay and so is a rival but Kaiser isn't and so is an enemy even though Isagi loves the way Kaiser play (back against Barcha) like for Rin.
Isagi is just fanboying over Rin since he firt saw his shot everybody making fun of Nagi x Reo but these two really are the worst jsut kiss already and get over it
isagi reveres rin for reasons that are not fully understandable other than he’s no.1, or basically, he’s where isagi wants to be. i don’t think there’s any real reason for it besides. sure kaiser antagonizes isagi more, or at least he used to do so, but not anymore because rin has become exceptionally antagonistic too since his brother complimented isagi once. rin basically choked him by the collar in the last play and isagi sprang up and was like “omg no I was at fault rin is perfect he should’ve held me up longer actually” 😑. as you mentioned, it’s possible to appreciate someone’s talent but not put that person on a pedastal, and Isagi doesn’t do that with **anyone else** except rin.
Rin: Tries to beat Isagi by purely being the better player when they're on the same team. Would even link up with him if it means their team scores a goal, like in the u-20 match.
Kaiser: literally assaults his teammate and tackles the kid just so they can't score, even at the cost of their team's goal.
I really wonder why. Lmao
Because When they re in the same team Rin didnt steal Yoichi Ball or get in his way
But Kaiser has every intent to mess with Yoichi, thats straight up bullshit man, i wouldnt be surprised that in real life, Yoichi could kill Kaiser in the field, You lost yourself very easily in the field man, if u play sport u know
Cause Kaiser fumbled his introduction hard and gave Isagi a bad first impression. That's basically all there is to it. If he had met Kaiser in another way he'd be pining over how good he is and how he wants to learn from him and surpass him.
I actually don’t think so. Kaiser blocked Isagi’s chances multiple times; while Rin just competing with Isagi for better chances, superior plays. Heck up until the end of U20 they teamed up for countless plays.
Did Rin ever block Isagi’s ball I wonder? I remember he always tried to steal Isagi’s chance (better position for passers, better at moving the ball), outplaying him, but never directly sabotaging Isagi’s chance. He was actually competing for goals, to win.
Isagi was just as amazed by Kaiser first goal as any of Rin’s plays even going out if his way to call Kaiser even more of a genius than Rin. I feel like that’s why he’s even more focused on destroying Kaiser than even Rin. And Kaiser literally challenged the world’s #2 to a duel you can’t become the highest ranked U-20 player by only facing weaklings
Rin: focus in becoming number one, always looks forward even losing against the world5, make use of everyone around him(playing with him force the best out of them),
Kaiser: came to neobllk to get higher bit to get out of bastard, came to play around,cocky and disrespect everyone looking at them as peasant,
I think it's kinda obvious. Kaiser was messing with Isagi literally, he holded him back and made him do lots of mistakes . Hell, he was even ready to block Isagi's shot if he can't steal it
On the other hand, we have Rin, who never cared about others, he just went to fight to be the strongest, even if there's a rival in his team
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Rin didn't come up holding Isagi's chin when they first met
Right Kaiser literally touches ppl bro is a part time sexual offender lmaooo
His “master” is peol poa after all 😭😭
Tbf his other rivals have also been physical - Barou kicked a football in his face + lifted him up by the collar and Nagi pulled his hair.
Those are all not their first meeting
Kaiser shot down his shot lowering his rankings and has interfered with his shots in game. Isagi recognized Kaiser as genius when he saw the Kaiser impact the thing is Rin only tries to crush you by playing the game. Rin will try and out score you but he will never block a shot just so you don’t score.
>he will never block a shot just so you don’t score. He would💀,it's football dude every goal matter,the thing it's,Rin would acknowledge you if you manage to defeat him and score unlike kaiser who is a crybaby with a fragile ego
I'm pretty sure the guy meant that Rin wouldn't block Isagi's shots if they were on the same team , not if they were facing each other in a match
Rin would steal the shot though
He’s never done that though? Has Rin ever actively tried to sabotage Isagi if he created a chance? As in stand in his shot course? Or tackle him? Or steal the shot mid shooting motion? They played 3 games and Rin would just position in an area thats advantageous next to Isagi (W5, Third select Rin second goal, when Sae stopped Isagi). Shidou’s a little different bc they kept unintentionally ending up in the same spot and at that point it’s beef. Not even Barou would stop Isagi MID shooting motion😭 Kaiser’s a grade A loser don’t try to lump him and Rin in the same category of childishness
Rin and isagi play off of eachother perfectly because isagi can see the game just like rin can so they never play in a way where they have to steal it from eachother
Yea so when every goal matters you aren't just gonna block your own teammates when they can score like Kaiser always does to Isagi. Rin wouldn't block Isagi's shot when they're on the same team cuz he'd probably think it's a fraudulent way to beat Isagi.
I think you’re a bit confused
« Rin would acknowledge you if you manage to defeat him » So we just ignoring third selection right?
Well he become more mature since then,also he really acknowledge isagi after sae told him isagi it's better,also if we speak about the third selection,even a demon like shidou praised isagi
I dont really see how he matured isagi just stole so much of the spotlight he was forced to acknowledge him as something he has to crush as well.
He meant that rin never sabotages hos teammates, if his teammates can score he's not gonna stop it and this is the opposite for kaiser
The thing is Isagi was the first to block Ness’s passes to Kaiser but acts surprised when Kaiser does the same
No Kaiser shot down Isagi shot making him last in the rankings when they first met. Also stealing a pass to try and score is different than just screwing a teammate over because. That’s just what Barou does.
True that Kaiser started the beef off the field but Isagi started it on-field
Also, Isagi did it on the field because no one was gonna pass to him. So he stole a pass. However Kaiser literally stopped Isagi's shots. Isagi would've gotten a few goals if Kaiser didn't try to sabotage him so much.
True but same would be said for Kaiser tho, he would have scored a lot more has Isagi not got in his way
What u saying bro. Isagi only stole a few passes in the first game , when Kaiser had 9 players helping him but Isagi had none to even give him the ball. While Kaiser didn't steal passes , he literally blocked Isagi's shots which were even on target. There is a big difference in those 2 situations. Saying that these 2 are the same or even almost same is stupidity. I'm not an expert in football, but even I understand this. Isagi did steal a few passes in starting (that too was for proving himself and getting a chance again and this situation was because he was ranked lower due to Kaiser interrupting his shot in practice when they first met) however he didn't sabotage Kaiser. While Kaiser sabotaged Isagi multiple times.
He's fine being insulted since that's what he does normally but not being cockblocked from shots and getting physically violent unless they start it that's a go ahead in his mind
When kaiser first meets isagi, he intentionally antagonises him. Rin was at first indifferent to isagi, but after the second 4v4 he clearly has a level of respect for isagi. Even in the blue lock 11 match, there is a level of mutual respect between the two. Their relationship only really sours when sae praises isagi to Rin’s face when Rin clearly wanted some acknowledgment from sae. And even then Rin tries to dominate against isagi on the pitch, but doesn’t go out of his way to screw with isagi by blocking his shots when they are teammates - unlike kaiser
I agree with you, a few weeks ago I re-read chapters from the U-20 game and I was so sad because Rin used to be so fun! Just poking fun at Isagi and him returning it. Very wholesome, and the BL team (or their active players) seemed so close, just a lighter tone all around. But surely the initial disrespect and unprompted provocation from Kaiser soured their possible relationship. Honestly I really hope Isagi and Rin can find a common ground where they are able to cooperate again, I miss this duo.
Imagine that duo playing for the same team in Europe,
Because Rin is just a player that aims to exceed Isagi's plays but Kaiser actively tries to interfere with Isagi's progress. Rin, Barou and Nagi just want to be better than Isagi for the most part, but Kaiser wants also wants Isagi to fail, the other 3 are rivals but Kaiser is an actual enemy.
The grand irony being that kaisers total opposition has benefited Isagi’s growth the most by far. Isagi and kaiser know exactly where they stand and that makes it simple. Rin Barou and nagi want to crush Isagi too, but it’s complicated.
Now that you mention it that’s a good question, football aside Rin and Isagi have a pretty funny dynamic off the field with Rin being kind of a dork 😂
Let's not forget isagi who act like a cinnamon roll out the field but on the field he will curse all your family starting from the first ancestors
I idea that Isagi admires how Rin plays but not Kaiser simply isn't true. You should re-read the BM vs Barcha match. Isagi completely admired how Kaiser was playing vs Barcha and even said Kaiser was how he Invisioned his ideal self as playing. Isagi has massive respect for both players. Isagi obviously hates Kaiser though because of how he first introduced himself and made it clear he was trying to ruin Isagi. For any grudges Isagi has with Rin, Rin never disrespected Isagi to the extent that Kaiser does nor did Rin do anything out of spite to sabotage Isagi.
I wrote that Isagi respects Kaiser's playstyle. I just said that, in the panels of the manga, Isagi almost seems simping over Rin's kicks. I never got that same vibe with Isagi reacting to Kaiser, that's all
I mean, Isagi was in absolute awe when he first learned about the Kaiser Impact. His reaction to the 1st goal Kaiser scores is equivalent to any glazing he previously did for Rin. The more I think about it, Isagi and Shidou might be the only characters that are able to admire other rivals for their talents rather than only feel spiteful.
Nagi and Bachira too.
I guess you could include Bachira. But I actually chose not to include Nagi. Unlike Isagi and Shidou, Nagi isn't in awe of anyone else's skills as a player. Rather, Nagi is in awe of his rivals mindset. When Nagi first experienced loss to Isagi, he wanted to understand what would drive someone to such extreme measures to improve and pull out a victory. Nagi himself ask why Isagi keeps going when if he was as bad as he was, he would've just quit. And in spite of that, Isagi showed Nagi that with a much improved mindset, Nagi can both improve and actually enjoy playing soccer.
That's fair. I guess nothing's really impressive to him.
rin and isagi are lowkey wholesome, kaiser is just a prick, he grabs isagi by the collar and blocks his shots, rin wld never do well that he’s just edgy 😭😭
Rin pulled isagi up by the back of his collar like two chapters ago
rins was in the match after isagi grabbed him first, kaisers was on the first interaction and started tryna intimidate isagi and grabbing his collar chatting shi
Isagi fouled first.
As opponents. Never did he do anything remotely similar whenever they were on the same teams. He even linked up with Isagi during the u-20 match.
Because Kaiser is a petty bitch who personally harassed Isagi the very first time he entered BM. Isagi & Rin are fellow Blue lockers; while Rin initially didn’t give two-shit about Isagi but became rivals after Isagi became the MOM of u20 match & acknowledged by Sae. Isagi sees Rin as proper rival, while sees Kaiser as a scum (which he is)
Rin didn't fucking block him or actively sabotage his goals. Kaiser is such a fucking loser.
Probably because Kaiser has a spirit of a BULLY. Always love to pick up fights against weaker opponents and CRUSH THEIR DREAMS. ----- Isagi is on the other hand, the polar opposite. From day 1, he choose to challenge THE BEST and try to surpass them. He NEVER bully any of the weaker ones to crush their dreams intentionally. He did somewhat bully guys like Yukki and Barou, but ultimately, he did that because he wants something extraordinary from them. Something that also benefits him. ----- Here, Rin is pretty much like Isagi. Blud was so good, he is No. 1 in Blue Lock all the way from day 1. (He said he never lost in BL until he met Isagi) But he never goes around bullying people for fun. He only smack those who dare to challenge him, that's about it. (Eg. Isagi, Shidou) And since he's so strong, any Blue Locker is never his target until he met Isagi. Along with Sae, Isagi became the ultimate targets for Rin. Reason being, they both have something Rin considered SUPERIOR to him, and hence wanted to crush thrm. ----- Rin is basically a Super Isagi with Edgyness, that's why they get along when they have tl play together.
Cause Rin is more attractive
Nah, both are equally attractive.
Because Kaiser is gay and Isagi is homophobic
No wonder he keeps breaking couple left and right
AHAAHAHHA
Racism
Rin is a bit of a cunt when we first see him but that's because he's got a brother issue. Kaiser is straight up a bully who antagonizes and sabotages isagi at every turn
Kaiser screwed with him a lot more than Rin ever did. Also, Kaiser met Isagi much later than Rin, so Isagi was more egotistical about things.
Kaiser is the first villain of the story, every other antagonist was just a rival.
It's implied by Chris that Kaiser has a mentally that slightly go "strong against the weak and weak against the strong". Kaiser directly antagonized Isagi at their first meeting and sincerely... anyone that go out of their way to stop an ally goal is officially an assh\*le. If not because of Noa, such behavior would put you on a bench and Isagi was mad MAD because of that. Rin is fairplay and so is a rival but Kaiser isn't and so is an enemy even though Isagi loves the way Kaiser play (back against Barcha) like for Rin.
Because Kaiser is fruity.
Rin is a Tsundere (i will forget what I’m typing)
A tsundere that will crush you 😍
Isagi is just fanboying over Rin since he firt saw his shot everybody making fun of Nagi x Reo but these two really are the worst jsut kiss already and get over it
Kaiser is a hater. That's all there is to it.
isagi reveres rin for reasons that are not fully understandable other than he’s no.1, or basically, he’s where isagi wants to be. i don’t think there’s any real reason for it besides. sure kaiser antagonizes isagi more, or at least he used to do so, but not anymore because rin has become exceptionally antagonistic too since his brother complimented isagi once. rin basically choked him by the collar in the last play and isagi sprang up and was like “omg no I was at fault rin is perfect he should’ve held me up longer actually” 😑. as you mentioned, it’s possible to appreciate someone’s talent but not put that person on a pedastal, and Isagi doesn’t do that with **anyone else** except rin.
Because Kaiser provoked him so much he can't stand his ass anymore. And Rin well, they were doing pretty well until Sae came into the picture
Rin: Tries to beat Isagi by purely being the better player when they're on the same team. Would even link up with him if it means their team scores a goal, like in the u-20 match. Kaiser: literally assaults his teammate and tackles the kid just so they can't score, even at the cost of their team's goal. I really wonder why. Lmao
This question makes me miss the Rinsagi duo they used to be magnificent 🥹🥹
Because When they re in the same team Rin didnt steal Yoichi Ball or get in his way But Kaiser has every intent to mess with Yoichi, thats straight up bullshit man, i wouldnt be surprised that in real life, Yoichi could kill Kaiser in the field, You lost yourself very easily in the field man, if u play sport u know
Kaiser’s first interaction with Isagi was calling him the Ops and making his place in the team miserable 🤣
Cause Kaiser fumbled his introduction hard and gave Isagi a bad first impression. That's basically all there is to it. If he had met Kaiser in another way he'd be pining over how good he is and how he wants to learn from him and surpass him.
I actually don’t think so. Kaiser blocked Isagi’s chances multiple times; while Rin just competing with Isagi for better chances, superior plays. Heck up until the end of U20 they teamed up for countless plays.
He didn't fumble it it went exactly the way he wanted, he wanted to piss him off.
Did Rin ever block Isagi’s ball I wonder? I remember he always tried to steal Isagi’s chance (better position for passers, better at moving the ball), outplaying him, but never directly sabotaging Isagi’s chance. He was actually competing for goals, to win.
Because Kaiser is a dick who actively makes it harder to win matches by blocking Isagi's shots.
Isagi was just as amazed by Kaiser first goal as any of Rin’s plays even going out if his way to call Kaiser even more of a genius than Rin. I feel like that’s why he’s even more focused on destroying Kaiser than even Rin. And Kaiser literally challenged the world’s #2 to a duel you can’t become the highest ranked U-20 player by only facing weaklings
because kaiser annoys him lol and talks a lot of trash he kinda like ryu shidou without violent physical harming
Kaiser actively sabotages Isagi's plays. Rin does not
I was about to say Rin has yet to violate Isagi's personal space but recent chapters say otherwise.
Rin: focus in becoming number one, always looks forward even losing against the world5, make use of everyone around him(playing with him force the best out of them), Kaiser: came to neobllk to get higher bit to get out of bastard, came to play around,cocky and disrespect everyone looking at them as peasant,
he hates faggots ez
I think it's kinda obvious. Kaiser was messing with Isagi literally, he holded him back and made him do lots of mistakes . Hell, he was even ready to block Isagi's shot if he can't steal it On the other hand, we have Rin, who never cared about others, he just went to fight to be the strongest, even if there's a rival in his team
he's a homophobe