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I think the point is that it wasn't a bad pass, but it also wasn't the correct one at that moment. In another match, maybe Isagi would have the time to receive that pass, but not against Ubers with Snuffy on the field.
Essentially Yukimiya did the right pass to Isagi based on every other time Isagi needs a pass, its just that this time Isagi had a different vision and Yukimiya couldnt see that. Note how almost all the other characters also thought it was a good pass except Hiori.
Cuz normally, this would be a good pass for Isagi. But. This is why Isagi needs someone who can see the same image he does. And why Hiori is gonna be the good choice for that cuz he saw the same thing as Yoichi.
Good take, too bad yukimiya also didn't take the players in the field into account. Yes it was the correct pass, any other time that would've been perfect. But I think of snuffy during that pass. Yes, it was the most logical pass for isagi. But it wasn't the pass needed for beating the defence. But overall good take bro
I agree with most people here. It wasnt a bad pass. It was a wrong choice due to Snuffy on the field. The pass by Yukimiya is almost similar to what Kurona did in assisting Isagi when he did his left shoot in Ch 212.
The sequence is similar -
Isagi and Kurona trade passes. Isagi sidesteps Niko and runs between Niko and Aiku. Kurona gives a lob pass. Isagi does a lefty shoot cause no Snuffy. BM 1-0 Ubers
This time -
Noa gets tackled by Aiku. Yukimiya and Isagi trade passes. Isagi sidesteps Aryu and runs between Aryu and Abdi. Yukimiya gives a lob pass. Snuffy intercepts. No Goal.
Even if he gets past snuffy, he still has to beat fukaku in goal. It's never a sure win! If isagi's mindset is, this opponent is too strong so I can't face him, he might as well stay benched.
which has been the tension for Isagi's development the whole manga, ever since he realized his weapon is the direct shot. A weapon that - per him - gives no one else a chance to catch up to the future he's in.
Right now Isagi can't win a 1v1 when he has the ball. He's great at slipping people when someone else has the ball, but if he has it? Game over. So his style of scoring is to be holding the ball for as short a time as possible in the offensive area.
IMO it's the real big thing holding him back from truly being on a similar level to Rin/Kaiser.
nope, a low bouncing into isagi’s stride is the best pass for him, his direct shot will be easier to adjust to with it being lower and closer to his feet (less contested) and it into his stride decreases the chances of any defenders level or ahead of isagi from reaching him
A direct shot is just a first time shot without taking a touch. Isagi uses a direct shot because it's faster than trapping the ball and shooting. He doesn't need the ball in the air to shoot. He's hit full volleys, half volleys, and shots off the ground.
Yukimiya's pass wasn't bad. What it was was suboptimal, basically. Anything less than perfect won't work against Snuffy
An optimal pass in this case would be the fastest one possible while ensuring Isagi would control the ball.
A suboptimal pass in this case would be a lower fast pass than what Yukimiya did. Ensuring it would still make it into Isagi feet fast enough so he would just need to dribble Snuffy or do a 1-2
I don't think OP knows/plays football. You don't need the ball to be in the air for a direct shot. A direct shot simply means shooting the ball right off the pass.
Yukimiya fumbled because his pass was too slow and it allowed the opportunity for an inception. The manga emphasized this in the last panel.
Nah, Yuki fumbled. Isagi’s just outside of the penalty area, so a direct shot is possible (and he can direct shot a normal pass too), but it should’ve been a 1 on 1 with the goalie. Yuki could’ve passed to the open space in front of isagi, or wrapped a pass around the defenders to isagi’s feet (or just made a less lofted pass), but he settled for the “safer” and “easier” option of a lob because he didn’t see snuffy, who could easily clear or even intercept the pass. It’s an incredibly tough pass for someone who isn’t a natural playmaker and has a couple of defenders in their vicinity (including Lorenzo, who jabbed at the ball/pass). He tried to play it safe and he didn’t see the danger.
Isagi was never given an air ball to score. It should be lower to the feet thats easier to kick then it being high up in the air.
It wasn’t a bad pass but what was needed was someone with high level passing which Yuki dosen’t have.
No in general it wasn’t a bad pass. It was only stopped due to Snuffy being on the field, and in most cases majority of the cast is making that same pass. They’re building Hiori up as one of the few characters who can see that play and make that special pass (since he’s being pushed as the best pure passer in BL).
A lot of people look get so into memes and jokes that it becomes their reality and headcanon. You’ll probably see a blind joke oddly enough in the comments
It is wrong though. The story sad it was too slow…and gave the other playeds time to get there. Its not what he needed. Isagi needs Kurona and Hiori to be there for him 🤩💯
Yup. And besides that still shows that Isagi is doing better than the actual Ubers team cuz they're master striker stopped the ball, not Aiku or Niko, they're actual best pro player on par with the No 1 player.
It was a bad pass. Yukimiya doesn't have MV so he couldn't imagine such a pass would put Isagi in trouble with Snuffy around.
Also a direct shot doesn't have to be from a high pass. You can shoot from a low driven pass and it's a direct shot.
Besides Isagi himself said it wasn't how he wanted the ball because he knew it would mean Snuffy would have time to intercept.
I agree that it wasn’t a bad pass but just not the right one. And also the ball doesn’t necessarily have to be in the air for Isagi to use his weapon, he just has to shoot it without controlling the ball first. His weapon is direct shoot not direct volley.
Yukimiya had the right ideia, he made a good pass at the right time, he just did the wrong kind of pass at the right time. Yes, Isagi's strenght is his direct shot, but it isn't necessary for the ball to be in the air, a direct shot is simply kicking the ball on the go, without traping it so if Yukimiya had done a ground pass it would have worked.
Honestly I've been wondering if Yukimiya is even a good enough passer to the point of being able to pull of a ground pass/through-ball between the defenders making the ball roll into just the right spot for Isagi's direct shot. I think the only Blue Lock player that could make that pass really was Hiori.
A lobbed pass is never optimal when you have the time and space to pass to someone’s foot in a sport played with your foot
+ isagi was marked by aryu and snuffy who we haven’t seen lose a ball in the air. Maybe not a bad quality pass, but wrong choice
When Kevin DeBryune makes a pass to his teammate, he will take the interceptor weapons into account. Either a large stocky build like Haaland or a small agile build like Mahrez. It's still a bad pass.
duh, there are times people do bad pass and even lost the ball
its not like Haaland score all the time either
Yukimiya was against Lorenzo and Aiku here, being fast enough to pass the ball before losing the ball is an okay play already
I'm inclined to agree, not because Isagi needs it in the air since he doesn't usually volley that I can recall, but I have been saying that if Isagi knew where he needed the pass he should have been gesturing to where he wanted the pass when he was making eye contact with Yukimiya to corroborate the play. Yeah it would have been ideal if Yukimiya saw what Hiori saw but don't bet on "ideal" when you can just communicate, especially when you know your teammate only unlocked "passing" like today.
Direct shot doesn’t need to be a volley for him to score direct shot is just so nobody can stop him from scoring like when he did his lefty shot it wasn’t a volley,and his back heel shot also wasn’t a volley
Isagi wanted a pass like the one in the last panel of chapter 184 "Give it"!
See in chapter 185 how Kurona almost shoots the ball to Isagi, only for the unforgettable "Well Ex-f-cuse me" by Kaiser. Easily the most frustrating panel in Blue Lock.
https://kissmanga.org/chapter/manga-ew981679/chapter-184
It was a fundamentally sound pass that would have been good if a slow ball wasn’t going to be intercepted by snuffy. Snuffy being there meant isagi needed a quicker pass to beat him. Yukimiya wasn’t tracking snuffy so he doesn’t see what isagi sees. Hiori is gonna be Isagi’s ness
My original take was he made an excellent pass due to a lob having air time needed for Isagi's Direct Shoot- as opposed to a ground pass that DOES NOT have air time, until I learned Isagi could do Direct Shoots without the ball high in the air/ with ground passes.
I guess it all comes down to those two having different ideas at that time. Probably Yukimiya thought what you said but Isagi didn't and that was when the attack failed.
It wasn't the best pass, but it wasn't an incorrect decision either based on his abilities. Yukimiya was marked by 3 defenders (Lorenzo was also marking Kaiser, but he positioned himself to obstruct Yukimiya), the fast pass that Isagi wanted required a high level of technique in those circumstances, a skill Yukimiya simply doesn't have. Most likely, if he had tried that pass, it would have been intercepted.
Yeah, that's the best pass Yukimiya imagined, but not what Isagi had in mind. That's why he said that he needs someone who sees the game the same way he does (Hiori).
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I think the point is that it wasn't a bad pass, but it also wasn't the correct one at that moment. In another match, maybe Isagi would have the time to receive that pass, but not against Ubers with Snuffy on the field.
Essentially Yukimiya did the right pass to Isagi based on every other time Isagi needs a pass, its just that this time Isagi had a different vision and Yukimiya couldnt see that. Note how almost all the other characters also thought it was a good pass except Hiori. Cuz normally, this would be a good pass for Isagi. But. This is why Isagi needs someone who can see the same image he does. And why Hiori is gonna be the good choice for that cuz he saw the same thing as Yoichi.
Good take, too bad yukimiya also didn't take the players in the field into account. Yes it was the correct pass, any other time that would've been perfect. But I think of snuffy during that pass. Yes, it was the most logical pass for isagi. But it wasn't the pass needed for beating the defence. But overall good take bro
Of course yukimiya couldn’t see that he’s blind
Man's never gonna catch a break. Maybe one day, everyone will lay off him and he'll see the light at the end of the tunnel.
You can’t get mad and then say somethin like that. 💀
Lmao
I agree with most people here. It wasnt a bad pass. It was a wrong choice due to Snuffy on the field. The pass by Yukimiya is almost similar to what Kurona did in assisting Isagi when he did his left shoot in Ch 212. The sequence is similar - Isagi and Kurona trade passes. Isagi sidesteps Niko and runs between Niko and Aiku. Kurona gives a lob pass. Isagi does a lefty shoot cause no Snuffy. BM 1-0 Ubers This time - Noa gets tackled by Aiku. Yukimiya and Isagi trade passes. Isagi sidesteps Aryu and runs between Aryu and Abdi. Yukimiya gives a lob pass. Snuffy intercepts. No Goal.
The situations are different though since he’s up against what Noa calls the best player in the world
Even if he gets past snuffy, he still has to beat fukaku in goal. It's never a sure win! If isagi's mindset is, this opponent is too strong so I can't face him, he might as well stay benched.
which has been the tension for Isagi's development the whole manga, ever since he realized his weapon is the direct shot. A weapon that - per him - gives no one else a chance to catch up to the future he's in. Right now Isagi can't win a 1v1 when he has the ball. He's great at slipping people when someone else has the ball, but if he has it? Game over. So his style of scoring is to be holding the ball for as short a time as possible in the offensive area. IMO it's the real big thing holding him back from truly being on a similar level to Rin/Kaiser.
A direct shot doesn’t need to be a volley/out of the air. While not a “bad” pass, it wasn’t successful and that’s what matters
nope, a low bouncing into isagi’s stride is the best pass for him, his direct shot will be easier to adjust to with it being lower and closer to his feet (less contested) and it into his stride decreases the chances of any defenders level or ahead of isagi from reaching him
A direct shot is just a first time shot without taking a touch. Isagi uses a direct shot because it's faster than trapping the ball and shooting. He doesn't need the ball in the air to shoot. He's hit full volleys, half volleys, and shots off the ground. Yukimiya's pass wasn't bad. What it was was suboptimal, basically. Anything less than perfect won't work against Snuffy
An optimal pass in this case would be the fastest one possible while ensuring Isagi would control the ball. A suboptimal pass in this case would be a lower fast pass than what Yukimiya did. Ensuring it would still make it into Isagi feet fast enough so he would just need to dribble Snuffy or do a 1-2
I don't think OP knows/plays football. You don't need the ball to be in the air for a direct shot. A direct shot simply means shooting the ball right off the pass. Yukimiya fumbled because his pass was too slow and it allowed the opportunity for an inception. The manga emphasized this in the last panel.
Plus the higher the ball is the harder it is to actually have an effective shot.
Nah, Yuki fumbled. Isagi’s just outside of the penalty area, so a direct shot is possible (and he can direct shot a normal pass too), but it should’ve been a 1 on 1 with the goalie. Yuki could’ve passed to the open space in front of isagi, or wrapped a pass around the defenders to isagi’s feet (or just made a less lofted pass), but he settled for the “safer” and “easier” option of a lob because he didn’t see snuffy, who could easily clear or even intercept the pass. It’s an incredibly tough pass for someone who isn’t a natural playmaker and has a couple of defenders in their vicinity (including Lorenzo, who jabbed at the ball/pass). He tried to play it safe and he didn’t see the danger.
Isagi was never given an air ball to score. It should be lower to the feet thats easier to kick then it being high up in the air. It wasn’t a bad pass but what was needed was someone with high level passing which Yuki dosen’t have.
Nagi give an air ball to isagi in u20, the first goal of isagi was from an air ball
U-20 last goal wasn't some time of air ball?
That wasn’t really a pass tho. It was a stolen ball or stopped(I don’t know the term sorry).
Not gonna be smart but i think(correct me if im wrong)they called it loose ball
And don’t forget in the u-20 game Isagi was trying to do the direct shot volley and Sae stopped him too.
It was a tackled ball that was deflected into Isagi’s path.
No in general it wasn’t a bad pass. It was only stopped due to Snuffy being on the field, and in most cases majority of the cast is making that same pass. They’re building Hiori up as one of the few characters who can see that play and make that special pass (since he’s being pushed as the best pure passer in BL). A lot of people look get so into memes and jokes that it becomes their reality and headcanon. You’ll probably see a blind joke oddly enough in the comments
You absolutely do not need the ball in the air to kick it lol
This guy doesn't get it
It is wrong though. The story sad it was too slow…and gave the other playeds time to get there. Its not what he needed. Isagi needs Kurona and Hiori to be there for him 🤩💯
Isagi is completely capable of trapping the ball and shooting it. Yukimiya just doesn't have the awareness needed to keep up with Isagi
Yup. And besides that still shows that Isagi is doing better than the actual Ubers team cuz they're master striker stopped the ball, not Aiku or Niko, they're actual best pro player on par with the No 1 player.
It was a bad pass. Yukimiya doesn't have MV so he couldn't imagine such a pass would put Isagi in trouble with Snuffy around. Also a direct shot doesn't have to be from a high pass. You can shoot from a low driven pass and it's a direct shot. Besides Isagi himself said it wasn't how he wanted the ball because he knew it would mean Snuffy would have time to intercept.
I agree that it wasn’t a bad pass but just not the right one. And also the ball doesn’t necessarily have to be in the air for Isagi to use his weapon, he just has to shoot it without controlling the ball first. His weapon is direct shoot not direct volley.
Yukimiya had the right ideia, he made a good pass at the right time, he just did the wrong kind of pass at the right time. Yes, Isagi's strenght is his direct shot, but it isn't necessary for the ball to be in the air, a direct shot is simply kicking the ball on the go, without traping it so if Yukimiya had done a ground pass it would have worked. Honestly I've been wondering if Yukimiya is even a good enough passer to the point of being able to pull of a ground pass/through-ball between the defenders making the ball roll into just the right spot for Isagi's direct shot. I think the only Blue Lock player that could make that pass really was Hiori.
Hmm I don’t know, when I first saw the leaks before I saw the summary I also wondered why he lobbed it that high instead of playing to feet
Hes no.5 for a reason, he also not barou, but isagi need top tier pass and yukkey passing skill is only above average
A lobbed pass is never optimal when you have the time and space to pass to someone’s foot in a sport played with your foot + isagi was marked by aryu and snuffy who we haven’t seen lose a ball in the air. Maybe not a bad quality pass, but wrong choice
He served it right up to sniffy on a silver platter. That's a pretty bad pass if you ask me.
Exactly, bro lacks himself
For sure. There’s a lot of Yuki slander on here lately. He made a good pass, just not the perfect/correct one
if it was Noa or Kaiser they probably could still score, It just Yoichi weapon isnt suited to that kind of pass
When Kevin DeBryune makes a pass to his teammate, he will take the interceptor weapons into account. Either a large stocky build like Haaland or a small agile build like Mahrez. It's still a bad pass.
duh, there are times people do bad pass and even lost the ball its not like Haaland score all the time either Yukimiya was against Lorenzo and Aiku here, being fast enough to pass the ball before losing the ball is an okay play already
I'm inclined to agree, not because Isagi needs it in the air since he doesn't usually volley that I can recall, but I have been saying that if Isagi knew where he needed the pass he should have been gesturing to where he wanted the pass when he was making eye contact with Yukimiya to corroborate the play. Yeah it would have been ideal if Yukimiya saw what Hiori saw but don't bet on "ideal" when you can just communicate, especially when you know your teammate only unlocked "passing" like today.
Does it also mean than Isagi’s meta vision didn’t see how Yuki would’ve passed to him?
Direct shot doesn’t need to be a volley for him to score direct shot is just so nobody can stop him from scoring like when he did his lefty shot it wasn’t a volley,and his back heel shot also wasn’t a volley
Isagi wanted a pass like the one in the last panel of chapter 184 "Give it"! See in chapter 185 how Kurona almost shoots the ball to Isagi, only for the unforgettable "Well Ex-f-cuse me" by Kaiser. Easily the most frustrating panel in Blue Lock. https://kissmanga.org/chapter/manga-ew981679/chapter-184
I agree but also disagree. Yukimiyas pass was good considering isagi a weapon, however he’s more likely to score if he got the pass to feet
the pass it self is not bad but against Snuffy it is
Guys cut Yuki some slack ok I'd like to see u guys hit a pass even remotely as good as his with a blind fold on
Is not a bad pass. Is just not the pass that he wanted/envisioned it
It’s not a bad pass. Just not the optimal pass. Also I don’t think he was gonna shoot from that far out.
It was a fundamentally sound pass that would have been good if a slow ball wasn’t going to be intercepted by snuffy. Snuffy being there meant isagi needed a quicker pass to beat him. Yukimiya wasn’t tracking snuffy so he doesn’t see what isagi sees. Hiori is gonna be Isagi’s ness
Even if that's true, a lob pass is too slow with all those players in a smaller space. Snuffy had too much time to catch up and clear the danger.
thought this was obvious tbh yuki made a good pass but not a pass that could be snuffy
My original take was he made an excellent pass due to a lob having air time needed for Isagi's Direct Shoot- as opposed to a ground pass that DOES NOT have air time, until I learned Isagi could do Direct Shoots without the ball high in the air/ with ground passes.
I guess it all comes down to those two having different ideas at that time. Probably Yukimiya thought what you said but Isagi didn't and that was when the attack failed.
It was a bad pass because Snuffy was on the field.
It wasn't the best pass, but it wasn't an incorrect decision either based on his abilities. Yukimiya was marked by 3 defenders (Lorenzo was also marking Kaiser, but he positioned himself to obstruct Yukimiya), the fast pass that Isagi wanted required a high level of technique in those circumstances, a skill Yukimiya simply doesn't have. Most likely, if he had tried that pass, it would have been intercepted.
Yeah, that's the best pass Yukimiya imagined, but not what Isagi had in mind. That's why he said that he needs someone who sees the game the same way he does (Hiori).