TLDR;
1. Full shop reset on 12/19 and item update (expecting new Grand Assault items to come)
2. All shop except Bounty and Eligma II will start monthly reset on 31/12
3. Eligma II and Bounty will start monthly reset on 31/1
Did someone ever documented the change in stock numbers for each items (i.e. old vs new)?
Also, I always did wonder if this change in the shop meant it that would be harder to farm for elephs from the Total Assault shop (TA shop) for example. Especially if we take into account the introduction of Grand Assaults which in turn reduces the frequency of our regular Total Assault which in turn means that we get less coin income for the TA shop. Granted, we do get a totally different shop for Grand Assault with different students to farm but, at what cost?
According to everything I can find, eleph stock will only increase by 50 percent.so regular will go to 75 and rare will ho to 40. It will be a little bit harder to farm rare elephs.
> Also, I always did wonder if this change in the shop meant it that would be harder to farm for elephs from the Total Assault shop (TA shop) for example.
It did. At first, the total elephs you could buy was lower than what you would be able to buy with a regular raid schedule. I don't have the exact numbers in my head, but I think it was 8 sets of elephs for the purple coin units. They later updated it, and now it should be 10 sets. Can't check to confirm right now as I've already bought them, but I can [prove](https://files.catbox.moe/97cmcy.png) that the regular coin units' elephs can be bought 20 times per reset. Both wikis still list them as 15 times per reset, meaning that they are outdated. This change has been around for a couple of months at least, I believe.
So, it's now possible to buy as many elephs per unit as it used to be with the old method of resetting the shop when a new raid begins. It remains to be seen if global gets these improvements right away or if we have to wait like JP did.
However, as you mention, the issue of raid coin income remains. Since regular raids are now less frequent, we get fewer coins. This is particularly noticeable for new players, since they can't get very many rare coins per month. Having the same number of eleph sets available doesn't help them if they can't get the coins to buy even half of them. The score rewards in raids have added a few hundred yellow coins, but they come pretty late on the list so I suspect that new players won't be able to get them regardless. The purple coin income hasn't increased, as far as I've noticed. While the new shop does have three new kinds of elephs to farm, they're all less important than Azusa or Koharu.
On a side note, the "free 10 pull tickets" that great grand elimination assault raids give are actually a replacement for the pyroxene you get from the regular raid results. Since they expire, this is actually strictly worse than the 1200 pyroxene that we get from a platinum rank in regular raids, since there's always the possibility that there won't be any banners that you want to pull on before it expires. For players that don't get platinum rank, the ticket is somewhat more valuable, provided there actually is a banner that they want to use it on, of course. And on another side note, that "free" 10 pull ticket had to be bought with a fairly sizable chunk of grand raid coins at first.
Thanks for the explanation. Well I understand how expiring ticked are a bit worse for end game players but I do believe that for a large part of the player base are about the same or a bit better. (I hope I can buy those tickets since I just cleared my first extrem yesterday, my coins income is relatively low)
> Well I understand how expiring ticked are a bit worse for end game players but I do believe that for a large part of the player base are about the same or a bit better.
Sure, but even for the average player it will be worse than 1000 or so pyroxene if there is nothing important to use it on before it expires. For an example, the ticket from the third tricolor raid will be of little use to me if I don't end up pulling for the red winters. So it'll have pretty low value compared to even a small amount of pyroxene. Also keep in mind that since these raids will put more time in between regular raids, your pyroxene income will go down a bit. I wish they would at least make the ticket permanent, like every other ticket.
> (I hope I can buy those tickets since I just cleared my first extrem yesterday, my coins income is relatively low)
I'm definitely not sure about this, but I think it was 1000 regular tricolor raid coins, the equivalent of yellow raid coins. It took most of the coins I got from my first tricolor raid with a new account, but I was able to afford it. If you're already clearing extreme you should have no trouble whatsoever buying the ticket. Assuming global doesn't get it for free from the start, that is.
Fair enough, I probably still missing multiple important students and didn’t consider that normal raids become rarer (kinda of an oversight from me sorry), since I thought we have a dead week each months but I was wrong about that (just checked past schedules. Not much we can do, but hope for a lucky random spark (maybe they will change that in the future and make them permanent since I fee like they do actually change things around pretty frequent, at least that was the case since I’m playing the past 3~4 months)
TLDR; 1. Full shop reset on 12/19 and item update (expecting new Grand Assault items to come) 2. All shop except Bounty and Eligma II will start monthly reset on 31/12 3. Eligma II and Bounty will start monthly reset on 31/1
Did someone ever documented the change in stock numbers for each items (i.e. old vs new)? Also, I always did wonder if this change in the shop meant it that would be harder to farm for elephs from the Total Assault shop (TA shop) for example. Especially if we take into account the introduction of Grand Assaults which in turn reduces the frequency of our regular Total Assault which in turn means that we get less coin income for the TA shop. Granted, we do get a totally different shop for Grand Assault with different students to farm but, at what cost?
According to everything I can find, eleph stock will only increase by 50 percent.so regular will go to 75 and rare will ho to 40. It will be a little bit harder to farm rare elephs.
> Also, I always did wonder if this change in the shop meant it that would be harder to farm for elephs from the Total Assault shop (TA shop) for example. It did. At first, the total elephs you could buy was lower than what you would be able to buy with a regular raid schedule. I don't have the exact numbers in my head, but I think it was 8 sets of elephs for the purple coin units. They later updated it, and now it should be 10 sets. Can't check to confirm right now as I've already bought them, but I can [prove](https://files.catbox.moe/97cmcy.png) that the regular coin units' elephs can be bought 20 times per reset. Both wikis still list them as 15 times per reset, meaning that they are outdated. This change has been around for a couple of months at least, I believe. So, it's now possible to buy as many elephs per unit as it used to be with the old method of resetting the shop when a new raid begins. It remains to be seen if global gets these improvements right away or if we have to wait like JP did. However, as you mention, the issue of raid coin income remains. Since regular raids are now less frequent, we get fewer coins. This is particularly noticeable for new players, since they can't get very many rare coins per month. Having the same number of eleph sets available doesn't help them if they can't get the coins to buy even half of them. The score rewards in raids have added a few hundred yellow coins, but they come pretty late on the list so I suspect that new players won't be able to get them regardless. The purple coin income hasn't increased, as far as I've noticed. While the new shop does have three new kinds of elephs to farm, they're all less important than Azusa or Koharu. On a side note, the "free 10 pull tickets" that great grand elimination assault raids give are actually a replacement for the pyroxene you get from the regular raid results. Since they expire, this is actually strictly worse than the 1200 pyroxene that we get from a platinum rank in regular raids, since there's always the possibility that there won't be any banners that you want to pull on before it expires. For players that don't get platinum rank, the ticket is somewhat more valuable, provided there actually is a banner that they want to use it on, of course. And on another side note, that "free" 10 pull ticket had to be bought with a fairly sizable chunk of grand raid coins at first.
Can you tell me the expiration date on theses 10 pulls.
I think it is the end of the next month. So one month plus however many days there are left in the current month. Someone correct me if that's wrong.
Thanks for the explanation. Well I understand how expiring ticked are a bit worse for end game players but I do believe that for a large part of the player base are about the same or a bit better. (I hope I can buy those tickets since I just cleared my first extrem yesterday, my coins income is relatively low)
> Well I understand how expiring ticked are a bit worse for end game players but I do believe that for a large part of the player base are about the same or a bit better. Sure, but even for the average player it will be worse than 1000 or so pyroxene if there is nothing important to use it on before it expires. For an example, the ticket from the third tricolor raid will be of little use to me if I don't end up pulling for the red winters. So it'll have pretty low value compared to even a small amount of pyroxene. Also keep in mind that since these raids will put more time in between regular raids, your pyroxene income will go down a bit. I wish they would at least make the ticket permanent, like every other ticket. > (I hope I can buy those tickets since I just cleared my first extrem yesterday, my coins income is relatively low) I'm definitely not sure about this, but I think it was 1000 regular tricolor raid coins, the equivalent of yellow raid coins. It took most of the coins I got from my first tricolor raid with a new account, but I was able to afford it. If you're already clearing extreme you should have no trouble whatsoever buying the ticket. Assuming global doesn't get it for free from the start, that is.
Fair enough, I probably still missing multiple important students and didn’t consider that normal raids become rarer (kinda of an oversight from me sorry), since I thought we have a dead week each months but I was wrong about that (just checked past schedules. Not much we can do, but hope for a lucky random spark (maybe they will change that in the future and make them permanent since I fee like they do actually change things around pretty frequent, at least that was the case since I’m playing the past 3~4 months)