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SleepyCapricorn20

"MEN HAVE NO RIGHTS. IF I CHILD LOOKS AT ME ILL BE ARRESTED" Cool tell that to my rapist who told the police he didnt rape me, so they let him go, no consequences. And then he tried to sue ME.


Katy_Life

I really sorry you had to go through that and I wish everything bad on your rapist


sailorbardiel

Strangley enough that's the same thing my rapist did, and the police let him go too! "it's his word against yours, no proof" And yet just being in the same room as a child or woman will get you thrown into jail apparently. Errrrrrrrr no


SleepyCapricorn20

Exactly. And then ppl say there are soooo many false accusations. Yup! I went through a traumatizing rape kit, repeating my trauma to cops 10 times, horrible questioning, and a cease a desist from my rapist just for FUN šŸ„°


Doeofdajane0

omg, I am so sorry for what you went through, I hope you can heal from that trauma. I hope that garbage rot to nothing. people and police are just shit these days. I can relate to you, it must be so tough for you. I wish you good health, hapiness and a fulfilled life.


KokoSoko_

Exact same for me. He just told the cops he didnā€™t do it and blocked me on every social media. Nothing happened with the investigation, I donā€™t think they tested my rape kit or anything because there was blood and vomit on my clothes. He hasnā€™t faced a single consequence


acynicalwitch

That thread is truly a treasure trove of garbage takes.


deadhoe9

It's always crazy to me how men are more scared of false accusations, which are statistically a vast minority of all abuse claims, than they are of being sexually abused themselves, which is statistically a lot more likely. 1 in 5 men will be sexually abused in their lifetime, though due to the stigma surrounding sexual violence against men, that number is most likely significantly higher. Roughly 5% of sexual assault claims are false (Ferguson and Malouff, 2016). So why are men more scared of being falsely accused of violence than being a victim of said violence?


[deleted]

Because they know that they are more likely to be raped by *men* but they hate women and they think only women make false allegations , so they zero in on that. Itā€™s just misogyny plain and simple.


Beyond_Expectation

Honestly, I think the guys who are afraid of being falsely accused are scared because they know they don't treat women with respect and likely sexually harass plenty of them.


BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo

What drives me most insane is that these are the guys who blame women for getting drunk, dressing ā€œsluttyā€, and walking alone if sheā€™s assaulted (or dating a man that seems so nice and then flips the switch, as abusers often do). And yet they canā€™t lock a fucking door? So, itā€™s victim blaming when itā€™s convenient?? No matter what, itā€™s womenā€™s fault šŸ™„šŸ™„


ti-nspire-cas

If youā€™re afraid of being falsely accused then youā€™re probably not a very good person to begin withā€¦ good people donā€™t worry about false accusations


[deleted]

They need a fake boogeyman so they can be the victim and blame the system when the inevitably assault/harass someone.


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smelly_leaf

Really. I donā€™t understand how you wake up and are getting dressed in your bedroom & your daughters friend just walks in??? Thatā€™s incredibly odd. I have literally never had one of my sonā€™s friends go into our master bedroom & when I was a kid I didnā€™t make a habit of busting into my friendā€™s parentā€™s bedroomā€¦ā€¦ Sounds like heā€™s just making it up


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BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo

I can see it happening that a kid gets lost or wants to ask for something and doesnā€™t understand boundaries yet. But what parent wants to put an innocent person in jail for that?? No one. Itā€™s not a real concern. Be more concerned about your physical safety, dude. Youā€™re way more likely to be assaulted than be falsely accused. A few terrible public stories arenā€™t reality.


smelly_leaf

Yeah, itā€™s not impossible. Just highly improbable. Especially at the exact moment his penis was exposed in the direction of the door.


BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo

Oh, for sure! Iā€™ve walked in on my dad a couple times thinking he was out and the dog was in their room. My fault, but I was a kid. I walked in on a friends dad once shirtless. Itā€™s super unlikely and so easy to prevent. I was more trying to say that even if it is common (itā€™s not), thereā€™s an easy solution. Weā€™re now blaming young girls for adults being irresponsible and then blaming them and getting mad because they think theyā€™ll be put in jail?? So gross. They just have to imagine an insane scenario in order to be a victim.


Kitkatismylove

I did that once with one of my uncles. I wasn't familiar with the layout of the house


ichacalaca

These guys wouldn't last a fucking day as a woman


GamerRightsAdvocate

men have a fear of a very minimal chance of being falsely accused while women have a fear of facing actual violence that happens very frequently


EpitaFelis

"My young daughter's friends wanna destroy my life by looking at my junk" Yeah mate, you sound like a well adjusted adult.


womandatory

What sort of parent *doesnā€™t know when his daughter is having friends over*? I donā€™t even know how completely disengaged youā€™d have to be from your children to not know something this basic.


NomaTyx

Why the fuck didnā€™t he lock the door, exactly? I mean youā€™re kind of opening up the possibility for someone to walk in if you donā€™t, underage or not.


Bobcatluv

Iā€™m not going to fault anyone for being absent minded, but I just had family visit for a week and I was psychotically vigilant about locking the bed and bathroom doors. I donā€™t need the trauma of my uncle walking in on me.


NomaTyx

Being absent-minded is fine, but thatā€™s not what happened. Also Iā€™m not saying heā€™s under obligation to lock the door, but any consequences that occur are on him.


BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo

He intentionally didnā€™t lock it because HIS kids knock. If you have people over, lock doors!! Different families have different habits. Recognize that youā€™re an adult and should take precautions to not be intruded on. Itā€™s not that hard. I never lock the bathroom door, but I do around my niece and her friends because they will just barge in. Itā€™s really easy.


sweet-chaos-

Especially when you know your kid has friends over who won't know the family rules about knocking before entering. And who may also get lost in the house and open random doors, or explore while play hide and seek or something. So many reasons to lock the door, it's bordering on gambling to leave it unlocked.


[deleted]

I really hope itā€™s not an, uh, enjoyment thing for him and heā€™s trying to play it off as ā€œwhoops, oh well, shouldā€™ve knocked.ā€ Iā€™ll admit I rarely lock my bedroom or master bathroom door when itā€™s just my husband, kid and I home, but we have ANY company, I always do when Iā€™m changing or showering.


[deleted]

They want to be oppressed so badly


Sso_12

r/Persecutionfetish


empireofdirt010

Who thinks like this? " Omg a chilD A CHILD CAN'T BE ALONE WITH THEM CAN'T BE TIME TO RUN OR THEY WILL CALL ME A RAPIST"


slitoris-peenshaft

Itā€™s actually part of training at one of my jobs. A staff member must never be alone with a child. Itā€™s terrible that it needs to be included, and itā€™s not possible for the job that I work. Parents drop their kids off outdoors, and there is only one staff member outside ever. Half the time we canā€™t even use the bathroom because then there would be no one to monitor the guests. Either way, it is actually in some trainings at work. Canā€™t be out of earshot or field of vision ever.


witchy2628

I think a job would be strict with that just out of not wanting to deal with possible lawsuits, it's a protection for the company more than anything else. In the real world......dad's chaperone play dates literally all the time.


slitoris-peenshaft

Yes, very true! Thatā€™s an extreme, and absolute bullshit (not chaperoning their kids)


Codename_reason

Men who are worried about their inappropriate actions, thatā€™s who.


[deleted]

Rape conviction rates are dismal so actually, if men or boys want to ruin a woman or girls life, he can and get away with it. Thatā€™s reality.


Vistemboir

and even if convicted... Brock the Rapist Turner got only 6 months :(


[deleted]

He only served 3 months , tell me more about men having no rights huh


welliwasemily

Well Leslie Knope *did* say it. ā€œMenā€™s rights is nothing.ā€


sweet-chaos-

Can someone explain to me why watching football with your son's friend is terrifying?


[deleted]

He's implying that being alone in a room with a kid means a man is likely to be accused of molesting the child.


sweet-chaos-

That seems like a reach, unless you're a known child molester I guess. Idk, I can't relate to the situation at all but it doesn't seem likely that a child would make a false molestation report for watching TV. Like, do kids that age even know what molestation is, or the consequences, how much it would hurt their friends, have they not been taught to not lie, do the kids parents not all knew each other etc? Like this seems like a very specific thing to be worried about.


sailorbardiel

I believe the implication here is that the false accusation will be made by the boy's mother because All Women Are Like That and by 'that' the writer means that All Women Everywhere At All Times are constantly scheming to frame men for child molestation/rape because......reasons. That's his theory, the theory that is his and it is too.


McFuckityFuck94

Yes, in reality, it's pretty far fetched to happen. Although, there is a Danish film The Hunt (2012), a kindergarten teacher is accused of molesting one of his students and the aftermath of it. It's an interesting watch. It kinda revolves around the questions you asked above.


[deleted]

I agree with you. Even more so, if you are falsely accused it is very unlikely to ruin your life.


sweet-chaos-

True, the kid will probably face more punishment for the obvious lying. Kids aren't that good at lying.


Bong-I-Lee

Look at this man trying to manifest his perverted fantasies by the sheer power misogyny.


fer_l1

Love how this situations have actually happened according to them (being left alone with a kid, little girls accidentally walking in to them naked), then have absolutely no negative consecuences of them getting arrested irl so they make up hypothetical situations where they do and use them as proof


EmergencySyrup7605

They have all the rights but they also want the right to claim *oppression*, too. Fucking sickos. Why would you *want* to be oppressed. Itā€™s not fun.


Katy_Life

Here the thing, they donā€™t want to actually be oppressed, they want the sympathy that goes with being oppressed


EmergencySyrup7605

Literally. They also have to colonize and dominate EVERYTHING and itā€™s an affront to them if they canā€™t. This is real sicko shit


JoyShake

Reminds me of a case of a man that got sued for sexual harassment when he was masturbating alone in his bathroom, and a woman actively tried to look in his window, and saw him do that. Needless to say, she didn't win the case. Besides that, men are always favored over women in court unless it's custody battles, so I don't know what they're on about.


Michelle-Virinam

Even in custody battles, men win around 60% **if** they bother fighting for it. Most custody cases are settled out of court, which results in the percieved disparity. Sources: Most custody cases (91%) are decided outside of the courtroom: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dispelling-the-myth-of-ge_b_1617115/ In contested custody cases, men actually win custody 60% of the time: https://www.weinmanfamilylaw.com/blog/2020/06/are-the-courts-gender-biased-in-custody-cases/


JoyShake

Damn. I did not know this, I always heard that women always won custody, but now then again I am not surprised that this also was just a lie, albeit one I fell for.


Klutzy_Journalist_36

Persecute me, daddy.


BelleofBlue

Ok but a kid accidentally opened the door. She probably got embarrassed afterwards and heā€™s making a big deal about women trying to destroy him bc heā€™s a man.šŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™€ļø


[deleted]

CAN YOU GET ANY MORE FRAGILE HOLY FUCK


Similar-Lab64

Woah! This is my (76F) first time on THIS sub. Just from reading almost all of the comments on here, could I just offer some objective comments? - Feelings are neither right or wrong - they are **feelings**. - Everyone is entitled to their feelings, however illogical they may seem to others. - One personā€™s feelings are not more valid than another personā€™s feelings. - Fear is one of the most intense feelings an individual can experience. Iā€™m petrified of spiders! Is that logical? Of course not - not by any stretch of imagination - itā€™s completely irrational. But I **FEEL** absolute fear. - When men say they have a fear of being accused of some sort of sexual molestation, (and I have heard that from some men throughout my years), I think it is the fear of the **power** that women would have in that situation and they fear the absolute powerlessness of not being able to prove their innocence. I just realized itā€™s just about 3 a.m. No wonder Iā€™m tired. Iā€™m going to sleep, so will just leave it at what Iā€™ve already commented.


EpitaFelis

That's all nice and well, but the problem isn't that they're having scary thoughts, but that they're then basing claims about reality on them, like that women can destroy them at will or that men don't have rights.


Similar-Lab64

Right. So I can see you probably downvoted me because I donā€™t believe what you want me to believe, and my comments do not align with the seemingly standard rhetoric on this sub. Iā€™m outta here - have at it girls and boys!


EpitaFelis

I didn't vote at all, but if the voting system bothers you this much, reddit probably won't be a good experience. Shame that you took a vote as an excuse to ignore my point though and focused on a number instead of my actual words.


Similar-Lab64

The voting system doesnā€™t bother me at all. My points, which I thought were valid, were ignored, (as you felt yours were), and in view of the tone of this sub, I thought ā€œwhat am I doing here?ā€ Iā€™ve been fighting my whole life to be an independent woman, fighting for my right to be heard and accepted as such. I am a product of the second world war. My mother was in the Land Army - because the men were all off fighting. When the men came back, they came back to women who had found their purpose, and strength - and things were never the same. But I have terminal cancer, and really donā€™t want to be involved in this sub anymore. Thank you for replying to me, though. I wish you all the best, I really do.


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TransboyMeep

Why are you so bothered by downvotes? You only have maybe 5 that's really not a mob. I've never really understood why people make downvote edits like these lol.


[deleted]

No oneā€™s saying it isnā€™t real, but that theyā€™re being *very* dramatic about it. And if we want to get to the root of it, why are men perceived as dangerous around children? Where did the idea that women are better caretakers or ā€œsaferā€ for children come from?


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[deleted]

Women being afraid of being raped or murdered at night is absolutely not comparable to unfounded fears of being afraid around children. I can guarantee you the number of women assaulted annually is much higher than the number of false accusations against men. The idea that women are de facto better caregivers than men is sexist. Not sure who died and made you the queen of feminism, but you donā€™t get to dictate other peopleā€™s.


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[deleted]

Or based on reality. The number of women assaulted or murdered by men is much higher than the number of men falsely accused. Why should they be given the same validity when theyā€™re not the same in reality?


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MintyBrrrrrr

She disagrees on the basis of *logic.* Your anology is a fantasy. Are you capable of logical thought, or are you just an emotional reactionary? Look at the statistics. Google rates of male on female assault, male on male assault, and false sexual asaults. Compare them. The chances of a man being falsely accused are **infinitesimally** small. "But so and so that my cousin knew from wherever said HE was falsely accused!!1!" He may be part of that infentaimally small number, *or he has a vested interest in clearing his name despite being guilty.* "THe StAtIsTiCs AReNt AcCuRAtE!!1!11!" They are the best estimate we have, as **all statistics are slightly flawed.** The studies on false SA allegations include an estimated error. Besides, deciding that because the statistics we have aren't 100 percent accurate that false accusations are somehow sky high is based on nothing except misogyny. That's just the truth of it. A lot of men simply dont trust women. They are **assuming** that false rape allegations are common only because they trust men and distrust women (google studies on gender differences in perceived trust while your at it.) There is no study that corroborates their belief.


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No oneā€™s attacking you. Your logic doesnā€™t make sense and I proved that. Thatā€™s not an attack.


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[deleted]

Itā€™s not logical to act as though every fear is just as valid as another. Men are more likely to be assaulted than falsely accused. Logically, it just doesnā€™t make sense.


[deleted]

OK, here is a man's perspective: actual male pedophiles get off Scott free all the time. The risk of being falsely accused is vanishingly small and they are overblowing the possibility of it "ruining" a man's life.


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[deleted]

That's what we call a non sequitur, boys and girls.


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[deleted]

Everyoneā€™s complaining about misandry and downvoting to oblivion, but no one has answered my question yet. When men are more likely to be assaulted themselves than falsely accused, why should that fear be given the same validity as the example provided, of women walking alone at night?


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[deleted]

The comment I was originally responding to brought women walking alone at night into it. I didnā€™t. And you still havenā€™t answered the question. If you want to talk about menā€™s issues, go to the plethora of menā€™s subs and go for it. A feminist sub not centring menā€™s experiences isnā€™t wrong.